@@txties2730 it's good for school, I am using a tablet for way complicated stuff for high end gaming and editing, and i also have a £5000 budget so... I am getting other stuff. But other than that the ipad air 2 is good in 2020 for school.
I have an iPad and ended up purchasing a Surface Pro. The iPad is I credibly powerful, some apps available go beyond my expectations. But at the end of the day it’s still a tablet that can’t run full desktop software. I found my self carrying my iPad and MacBook. The Surface is more of a computer than a tablet but a decent bridge between both.
Man I have the same problem I need good notes and notability for windows but is not available ... I was using word with an Xp-pen 13 pro artist tablet but I don't like I need a software dedicated to take notes but I don't like office so I think that I need an iPad but is not that I want can you recommen me good software for take notes on windows?!
Thanks for the effort. iPad is a tablet that is almost a laptop and Surface is a laptop that is almost a tablet. As a distant teacher, I would prefer the Surface for having a fully functional laptop with a handwriting feature on my lap. A macbook pro with a detachable touchscreen would be the best combination ever 😃
Apple wants to make money and differentiate their product from the other products out there, all in one bundle is just gonna make them a Surface pro copy cat plus they will lose a lot of money from existing apple fans who buy both these products for their apple ecosystem. Personally I own an apple phone bought my gf the x max, but computer tablet wise i would rather carry one only and it better not worth and arm and a leg.
Just got mine in the mail today. ru-vid.comUgkxhcEDB3r-OJ3_X5hQzr7k1ZofTQy1ao_U The corners of the box was a little smashed but I think that’s more of the shipping’s fault. iPad was in perfect condition though. I ordered the yellow one thinking it was going to be a bright vibrant color. Instead I looks like more of a Gold color. I personally prefer the gold look. Definitely not disappointed but just a heads up to the ones expecting a brighter cream of yellow.
@@martinsauer8856 I'm biased, but I feel like unless you're gaming, it doesn't really matter. That's not the limiting factor of how long it takes for either tablet to process an input.
@@NoahHerman Hy! Can you make the onnete app to a4 paper size like in notability in ipad? For printing it would be a must, i would need it for school to show my exercise book.
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Not one sided lol he states all the time he uses iPad and half the time has no idea of what is available on Samsung or windows that outperforms any app Apple has . Apple products and tech do not go together at all. Lol 😂
@@shaina992 the surface pro 5, 6 and 7 don't seem to have any issues with battery expanding. The only models I have heard having battery expanding issues is pro 4 or earlier (or surface book 1).
I was just thinking that. The two operating systems are being blended together more and more each year so I feel like that’s the next logical step. I hope they do that. I’d pull the trigger on a iPad Pro then.
@@acelakid94 That was quite literally the only deciding factor between getting the ipad and the surface. The ipad just feels and behaves like a big iphone and that's annoying. I have an ipad 5th gen and it's so mediocre.
@@baykennish1189 I have a 1st gen iPad mini and 2nd gen iPad. I stopped using them years ago because of the limited capabilities of the software. Hearing your experience with a more updated one is disappointing, but not surprising.
As an electrical engineering student i definitely recommend surface pro. I have to do some programming a use other programs and ipad just could not do it. Also stylus us much smoother and better on surface pro for writing/drawing(at least for me and my friends). edit: typos
It's funny how Apple considers having a shitty touch based OS with limited apps as "Pro". Not to mention horrible file management, single USB C port and fixed storage. It can't run any CAD, 3D rendering, MATLAB or any programming IDE like VS or Eclipse. For engineers or scientists, the ipad pro is anything but pro.
Btw guys if you start your college with a Surface Pro - I would advise buying the extra tip pack for the Pen, too. Many ppl prefer different amounts of drag. For instance I found that I could write much faster and cleaner with the red hard tip - but I like the blue soft one for diagrams and concept drawings. So try it out.
I have a pretty decent windows laptop. I wanted to pair my laptop with either the surface pro or Ipad pro for note taking in school. I have tried both of them, I went with the Ipad pro. Ipad just had a better writing experience between the two.
Exactly, very well said. If someone already has a functioning (nothing fancy needed) then they can comfortably get the iPad for going paperless while doing the few tasks that the iPad is unable to do so on their laptop. And for the other set of people, getting a surface would probably be a great choice considering that it can function as both.
If you click the options menu in notability and select paper, you can actually change the paper from grid, lines, dotted or plain and you can also change the colors, but its not as good as good notes and I think that downloading PDFs and copying and pasting them into the note is better. Hopefully they will make an update in the future that allows us to make our own templates
I am an Windows fan and android fan too, will never use a mac book or an iPhone. But tablet.. This rewiew is light, don't know if i am allowed to post a link in here but I've seen compared both on running video, opening and running apps, and what I'm interested in the most was video /photo editing. Surface pro was no match whatsoever to apple one.
I remember having issues using iPad as a leftie, specifically palm rejection not being very reliable. Did you find this an issue too? I am now using an SP7 and left handed support is perfect for me.
Good video, but I recommend that you spend a little bit more time playing around with each app and learning its features before doing a comparison. There were several things I noticed about a couple of the apps. As has already been mentioned, Notability does offer a choice of different background papers. They also offer the ability to import or purchase linked PDF planners, calendars, etc. (So that if you click a link in the PDF it opens another section/tab of the PDF.) Notability has poor text editing abilities, and very poor RTL (right-to-left) support. While they offer handwriting-to-text conversion for most Latin alphabet based languages, they don't offer it for more complex scripts like Hebrew or Arabic. I use Notability for taking notes in a mixed language setting, (I'm a graduate student in Israel so I often have readings in either Hebrew or English, while the class discussion might be conducted in the other language.) I will handwrite Hebrew notes, but I don't attempt to type Hebrew in Notability because it will only left justify, not right justify. That's an easy fix, and I have written them about it, but they have not implemented that feature yet. Regardless, the ability to simultaneously record audio while writing notes, and have both synced to each other is the main reason I use Notability. I used to use OneNote for that feature on a Surface Pro, but the iPad's superior handwriting speed and recognition caused me to switch. I find the Surface Pro lags too much, and it makes my handwriting look like a preschool child when I'm trying to write quickly, while my handwriting on the iPad looks exactly the same as if I wrote on paper. OneNote is a much more powerful app than you let on. It offers research integration for students, an almost infinite workspace, the ability to quickly add space between things that you have already written, etc. You also did not mention, which is a huge omission, that OneNote on the iPad doesn't offer the ability to record audio while you take notes. The Windows version does, but the iPad version doesn't. Microsoft knows that if they offer feature parity between the Surface versions of their apps and the iPad versions of their apps, that more people would get the iPad. Seriously, there is no hardware or software limitation preventing them from adding the feature, and if you go to their OneNote features request page for iOS, you'll see that the most requested feature is audio recording while taking notes. But they refuse to offer it. Too bad. I actually prefer OneNote, but I like the handwriting experience on the iPad better. So I use Notability instead of OneNote. :( The video is well made, and I enjoyed it, but the content could use a little more polishing.
Noteability has the ability to change the color and style of your paper. You can go from lines to a grid pattern and different colors. And you can record your lectures directly from the app. Tracking your notes as you record. So if I want to review and hear what was being said at the exact moment I was writing, it will allow me to do that. Best note taking app hands down.
Noah Herman I think with one note you get different paper backgrounds and forms too, but good note has more options and the ones you showed seemed like more authentic paper fabric, subtle differences
Noah Herman one thing about one note that’s a bit annoying is you can’t have page separation, it is just a massive blank space so it can be hard if you want to organize things by page numbers
I mean again, surface runs a full desktop os. Why do we keep comparing these two. Try coding something on iPad. Run vs code, webstorm, install ionic, write a java program, open terminal and do an ssh ?? Sorry its still an iPad.
Yeah this is kinda the deal breaker for the ipad. its still too limited if you want to do more than media consumption and take notes. the surface is really versatile if you need to occasionally use it for working.
I am a medical student and I recently bought an iPad Pro 2020, I got the 11inch variant and I must say it has been doing everything I could possibly think of. I use it to take notes and type documents. I never faced any issues with it and I would recommend it if you are a student like me.
@@rana2985 Hi, I only required a laptop when I started to do a lot of research work that needed me to work with Excel and SPSS a lot, so I ended up getting a laptop for that. Most of my studying and note-taking is still done on my iPad.
In Noteability you CAN change the form of paper and add lines etc. Furthermore it has an inbuilt ruler, meaning if you draw a line and hold, it will make it completely straight. The same can be done with triangles, squares and circles. The same applies for highlighting, which makes it much more visually appealing when highlighting. Additionally I feel that the eraser tool on the Pencil is better, because you just double tap rather than flipping the pencil. This is faster and more convenient when taking handwritten notes imo.
@@novaltomy8336 No, but for me it's a lot easier to write on screen protectors with paper-like texture. My hand gets tired way faster trying to write on a glass surface because of the lack of friction, especially because the Surface Pen is heavier than most regular pencils/pens.
OneNote in windows has a lot more features- eg 1. In Ipad you need to reach the to portion and select color of highlighter EVERY single time, vs in windows, it pops, the moment you run mouse over it by selecting it 2. You can record while you take notes in windwos - can't do so in ipad 3. Tagging is present in windows, not in ipad AND MANY MORE.....
@@tahanumansimsek Yeah but I won't invest 800$ for an iPad which cannot help me in competitive coding and also Machine Learning requires a lot of storage which is not possible on ipad and App development is a far thought.
I don't understand why people use Windows tablets in desktop mode and say they aren't touch friendly. Windows 10 did a great job giving you a immersive full screen tablet experience with every program if you activate tablet mode while keeping the same desktop experience. But not many people seem to use it.
Surface for productivity is everything However if you want down time and use a lot of apps that you’re accustom to using on Apple products It won’t be available on surface That’s the part that sucks for me I’m going to keep the surface pro and buy an iPad Pro I just wish there was a full tablet/laptop experience that you can have productivity and fun 🙄 If anyone has suggestions I’m open to listen Thanks
THAT'S the video I was waiting for! Thank you so much! Suggestion for next comparison videos: If you could for the specs, prices and related stuffs write it on the screen. Would help us have a better view of the devices being shown/compared to.
Something that I just thought of by someone asking me, is what's better "an iPad Pro or the Surface Pro 7?" When I began to think about that question, that automatically made me think of a pro's and con's list. It did not take me long to arrive to answer the person asking the question. What you have to realize, is that as great as the iPad Pro is, it's still an iPad at the end of the day. An iPad still runs a trimmed-down operating system that relies on apps. Whereas the Surface Pro 7 runs a full version of Windows, which has both an App Store, and you can download outside programs if you can't find what you're looking for in the Microsoft app store, on an iPad you can't. On an iPad, you are restricted to the app choices through the app store. This means, if what you are wanting to do, can not be accomplished through an app, then you are out of luck when it comes to working on an iPad. Also, the iPad does not support full screen when connected to an external display. Now some apps do support full-screen mode on an external display, but they can sometimes be unstable. On the Surface Pro 7, you do not have this issue. You can either set it to mirror your display or extend it to another screen and it will display in full screen. I had tried using an iPad as my primary work computer, but could not find an app for everything I do. Although Safari is supposed to be a full-functioning web browser, it does operate all the time as a full browser like Chrome. If you rely on Chrome extensions, you will not be able to replicate them on an iPad. As great as an iPad is, you have to really think about what your needs are? How can those needs be met? What is my budget and which device offers me the best value? If the work output outweighs the cost of the device, then you have your winner. Great video Noah.
Tbh you must be crazy to pay more for an iPad(which is just a very very good tablet) than for a Surface Pro that is really a Windows computer. You can do way more than just note taking with the Surface Pro than you can with the iPad. And if you're only interested in note taking, I'd say iPad 10.2 is a better deal
Guess some ppl just have a whole set of apple system that syncs better, but now there are lots of windows clouds apps that should be no problem. I have a MacBook and just wanted a tablet for note taking so I got the iPad Air 10.5 256, it’s not too high a price with a newer processor, but I will consider getting surface definitely when I need to change my laptop
@@serenazhang676 yeah that's possible. Apple ecosystem is a great thing and it's hard to get out from it once you really get used to it. Personally I'm waiting for some discounts on Surface Pro 7 with i7 processor as I'll really need all that extra horsepower during next few years and I love how versitile Surface Pro is
I have had both but the pen experience with iPad is more life-like. What I have done is install remotix and run a remote PC for situations where I need a Windows environment. Then o have both worlds at hand.
Thanks for the informative video Noah, I am just curious about the paperlike, is it possible to layer it with a glass film, like I would put the glass film first and then the paperlike, would that affect the efficiency of the apple pen?
I mean surface pro is easier to use. Thought about getting the iPad Pro, but the fact it bends so easily n you need some dedicated apps to take notes on pdfs, and other documents kept me away from getting it. whereas on surface pro, you can just open the document up in Edge and take notes with no problems. idk if things are gonna change with the new update of iPad OS 14, but defo not gonna get the 2020 iPad Pro.
Great comparison video Noah❗️ I do use Notes on my iPad Pro but not a lot. If I took more notes I would look at the different Note Apps that are available but the Apple Notes is working great for me and I continue to learn that it can do more than I thought. I really do like the Native Apps that come with the iPad, I use Reminders, Pages, and Numbers also and the scan tool on the iPad is super.👍✅✏️
Although I just bought iPad Pro 12.9 inch, glad to know we have another good choice. Bought iPad Pro, magic keyboard, air pod, it turns out that I don’t good safe to bring them to school or to library. They cost me two or three thousands CAD.
Excellent review, I have both Surface Pro and Go and the first gen iPad and I agree with everything you say here. Goodnotes is simply the best note taking app around. I need windows hence I have the surfaces. Thanks for the heads up to penbook I will definitely download it to the surface.
Hiiii, I own a surface go and macbook pro 2015. I'm looking for a new replacement for my surface go that I can use for note taking and to replace my macbook sometimes when I'm outside of my home. I can't decide between surface pro 7 vs ipad pro. I wouldnt use it much for multimedia but mostly for note taking during lectures. What would you recommend for me between theses two devices.
I just wish that Android tablets received more support than they do. I bought one recently and while I can use any app pretty much, the majority aren't optimized for it.
Great video! what is the best solution for writing in your opinion surface go 2 m3 or cheapest Surface pro 7. it is very interesting to find out how big the difference is!Thanks
Notability has paper backgrounds. Also, you don’t need a ruler because the lines self-rule if you hold at the end of your line draw. Try using it more, and I think you’ll find it more capable than you appear to think it is.
I owned the smaller version of both tablets, Surface Go and iPad Mini and currently torn which bigger version to buy and integrate into my work flow. So far I find the Mini a bit useless. I'm using Go much more as a note taking device during meeting etc and it also act as my main work device. But, since I'm using an iPhone and already got iPad Mini, I really wanted to complete the sets and buy an iPad Pro. I'm currently leaning towards Surface Pro though. But I'll wait for the next batch of new stuffs both company will offer and decide than 🤗
You cover a certain niche in YT. For varying your content within this niche, i suggest you also start testing out Chromebooks and 2 in 1 devices. I’m sure your viewers will agree. Especially comparing them like you have in this video, since the ones out there currently aren’t thorough enough. Ex- Chromebook vs iPads, why an XPS 2 in 1 could be a great device students for note taking and working on. So on and so forth. Vary it up, theres plenty you can do in this niche youve cared yourself. IDM lesser smartphone content either (personally)
I have a MacBook Pro now and which one should I buy for secondary computer, iPad Pro or Surface Pro ? Daily tasks are taking notes and downloading pdfs
Man I really hope microsoft makes the surface pro 8 be a clone of the surface pro x, but with a regular CPU. I wanted the surface pro x, but the whole arm thing was a no-go. I just sold my ipad pro 12.9 because the multitasking absolutely sucks, so I’m due for a new computer very soon.
I would prefer to have a surface pro with FHD screen with 144hz rather than QHD. Seriously the tablet screen is only 12" compared when we used to have 32" TV and monitors in FHD which was working fine.
There is one defining factor to wether Wich one you should buy, because ipad is clearly better in note taking, but surface is also very good and has WINDOWS, which for engineering students or anything that requires a little bit of specific software is the real game changer, so if you are just going to take notes and do normal stuff, buy ipad, if you need a little bit more of a 1000dolars computer, buy surface.
Great Video, man! To the people who're complaining for a tablet being more expensive than a full-fledged computer - Many don't realize this, but if you're comparing prices of the compared devices, then also consider their integration with the ecosystem. On Notes app on iPad, the moment you take a note (handwritten or text) it instantly reflects on your Mac and your iPhone, no 3rd party installations, no lag, no refresh needed! And it works perfectly! You can argue that OneNote does the same, but for anyone who's tried using OneNote on 2-3 different devices will vouch how inconsistent its performance is.
I am a teacher and have been using the apple ecosystem for about the last 5 years. I have had a iPad air 2, and just ordered an iPad 8. I have a MacBook and iPhone. I received a surface pro from the school district, and am trying to get used to it. So, I am realizing the OneNote will be the default app, when i want the migration from all devices. Any other programs that I can use across both platforms?
Bro, surface pro is a computer + tablet while an ipad is just a tablet. There's no comparison between the two. You should compare ipad with galaxy tab.
Hi Noah! Thank you for the video. I have a Surface Pro 7 and I'm looking for the latest Surface Pen model. Is that model released in June 2017? Or is there a newer model? Which is the model and the part number of that platinum color?
Vert interesting vidéo. One question : i see toi Always keep tour hand above thé surface. IS it possible to put your hand on the surface while you're writing with the pen ?
Yeah, I think the Surface also comes with palm rejection, not sure if it works as well as the iPad, but with the surface you can choose which hand you are using and it will try to reject any palm input from that side.
