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Microsoft Surface Pro 7 vs iPad Pro 12.9 - It's Closer Than Ever! 

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@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
Would you rather use the Surface Pro 7 or iPad Pro?
@Executive_Essy
@Executive_Essy 4 года назад
IPad Pro all the way
@Dare2Blink
@Dare2Blink 4 года назад
Surface pro 7 obviously. Its the only one with a proper full OS capable of doing proper file management and running anything. Not to mention that the ipad sucks for typing and does not even have a trackpad... no comparison.
@trentgilliam5192
@trentgilliam5192 4 года назад
Just look at the sales figures.... the mass majority are still choosing the iPad. Plus who really who rather deal will WinDOZE. Does the Surface need an antivirus?
@Dare2Blink
@Dare2Blink 4 года назад
@@trentgilliam5192 The Surface division is selling very well and the Surface pro is the most sold 2 in 1 in the market... I cant fins any specific sales Numbers for the iPad Pro and the Surface pro so its anyones guess as to which sells more but I would net the surface sells more. 99% of professionals would prefer Windows over a tablet os...
@DragonofStorm
@DragonofStorm 4 года назад
@@Dare2Blink The big one has a smart folio keyboard with normal key size thats, ok. But i also think that using an keyboard, it s much easier to navigate with trackpad than always moving the hand all the way to touch. Touch-usage is best when using stylus or if you only use very short term or have no space to use keyboard. And the normal OS point is important.
@ashtontheperson7871
@ashtontheperson7871 4 года назад
Alright but yeah iPad is a better Tablet Surface is a better Computer.
@hjacobson22
@hjacobson22 4 года назад
true
@Adrian-wd4rn
@Adrian-wd4rn 4 года назад
Surface pro is better at both. I use Apple full on and switched to the surface just recently. The thing is amazing and can do ANYTHING you need it to do...Ipad? nah.
@heinovanwaelem8275
@heinovanwaelem8275 4 года назад
@@Adrian-wd4rn Wish that was true, running side by side comparison (real life) for a week now. Yes Surface Pro can do anything, but the things an iPad Pro has/does, it really does it better. Comparing to an iPad Pro 12.9 inch 2018. The iPad Pro has certainly much better battery life, at least 2 hours more (at minimum). I just see the battery dropping faster in same usage. Knowing the iPad has a 20% smaller battery. iPad Pro is also just smoother in all things it does (yes, even web browsing). The 120hz scrolling on iPad Pro is much better for the eyes. Sound quality is also much better. Also the iPad Pro touchscreen seems to be better, I have far more accidental taps/clicks (using touch) while scrolling on Surface Pro, and sometimes I have to tap twice for something. Try it with youtube, against youtube app on iPad Pro. You'll see. Surface Pro has no always on and as such no notifications or whatever. Are there any (good) apps for Surface Pro? No. You don't need to? That is because you are using it as a computer. A tablet is in another category. Think of this: would a small Surface Pro as it works today be a good smartphone? No. Surface Pro is better in certain cases, but to call it a better tablet against an iPad Pro is like cursing in church. However Surface Pro is nowadays performing better and better (as tablet). It is no surprise people are switching to it. That is also because Windows 10 is now more and more touch friendly/aware with each iteration. I also wish it was different, some things on iPad Pro are cumbersome and easily done on Surface Pro. But the same counts other way around. It is what it is. It all comes down to what you need (most) in your daily usage, but coming from an iPad Pro you'll sacrifice what I just mentioned, then again you gain some other things (that might matter more to you). I don't mind which one is better, I just wish it was really the case what you are saying. I can keep both if I want to, it is just stupid to have 2 devices of the same category. For me you are better off with a good tablet and a good laptop. However if you must choose (for that budget) between both, a Surface Pro could be the better choice in many cases.
@Montpbm7
@Montpbm7 4 года назад
@@Adrian-wd4rn Great decision.
@Adrian-wd4rn
@Adrian-wd4rn 4 года назад
@@heinovanwaelem8275like? My surface can run full Adobe. It draws really well it runs solid works and keyshot. As well as letting me take pictures in my studio when I connect my camera...I cant do any of that, other than draw, on an iPad. Sorry.
@ABPreach81
@ABPreach81 4 года назад
Honestly, I’ve been an Apple user for many years. I purchased the surface pro 5 (2017) for a pretty good price at bestbuy during a promotion which included the type cover. Although I really like Apple, I can no longer justify the price to purchase hardware that offers the very same experience in a different package. “ipad was a larger iPhone” up until pados. What I needed to do on an iPad can more easily and efficiently be done on a computer. If I need to take notes, I can grab a notebook. I love taking digital notes, but the iPad seems to be a square block trying to squeeze itself through a triangular whole. You just don’t need it. For $1k, it needs to offer a more complete experience. I have to carry two devices (Ipas and MacBook) to accomplish what I can do on my surface. With the surface, I only need the surface. Adjusting to looking for software vs apps is the challenge. The surface is better for business. iPad seems to be better as a toy or for reference after you’ve done real work on a computer.
@edlinx
@edlinx 4 года назад
I have iPad pro v2 and I am switching to Surface Pro 7. iPad is a fun device but it is really bad for productivity.
@swissheartydogs
@swissheartydogs 4 года назад
edlinx indeed, no pro software (even for pic/video) & archaic ergonomics (no kickstand, no trackpad)... iPad is not for work. SP7 the best productivity laptop.
@richardalpert76
@richardalpert76 4 года назад
Same here, going to sell my iPad Pro 12“ and get the SP7.
@etagged
@etagged 4 года назад
There are plenty of portable laptops that are cheaper and better than the surface, why get a surface for productivity if you can just have a laptop. If it’s the drawing capabilities you care about, the ipad pro clearly wins in that department with the apple pencil.
@TheRalphrochie
@TheRalphrochie 4 года назад
which is more expensive upon buying and in the long run(ie. apps, programs, pens, keyboard)? I'm torn between these two for med school
@Overtorange
@Overtorange 4 года назад
@@etagged Because plenty of people are using windows based programs to draw or edit photos.
@corgikun2579
@corgikun2579 4 года назад
When you want to compare speakers Id recommend you the following. 1. Choose a song in a high bitrate format (not streaming) that has plenty of tones. 2. Get the waveform of that song. 3. Record iPad and SP7 waveforms individually with the microphone at the same distance for each device. 4. In a computer, open and compare the waveforms (original, iPad, SP7). Compare them visually and listen to certain sections that have significance
@nyoverse
@nyoverse 4 года назад
Never that serious lol
@Relatabledeepshorts
@Relatabledeepshorts 4 года назад
Man this was actually the best review on RU-vid for that topic. I searches for weeks and I were struggling between those 2 for quite a long time. Thank you very much sir and keep killing it!
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
🙏 thank you!
@Stockboy929
@Stockboy929 4 года назад
What did you decide to go with?
@Ionlyexistpardner.
@Ionlyexistpardner. 4 года назад
@@Stockboy929 ipad 2
@-M0LE
@-M0LE 4 года назад
Jackinthebox2502 😂😂😂😂😂
@quimblyjones9767
@quimblyjones9767 4 года назад
I'm so glad we are entering an era where there are magnets on everything.
@evan.5967
@evan.5967 3 года назад
Fak me
@evan.5967
@evan.5967 3 года назад
Ahaha
@tylerharvey8299
@tylerharvey8299 4 года назад
I've had a Surface Pro 4 for almost 5 years now! It has been awesome! Tablet on the go when needed or a legit laptop when necessary! Thinking it's time to upgrade to the Surface Pro 7...
@martingodske3301
@martingodske3301 4 года назад
I have the Pro 4, but just ordered the pro 7, can't wait for it. The pro 4 is still a really good model, but just got the flickering screen (sad noises).
@lukeetris
@lukeetris 4 года назад
Same. The surface pro is an amazing device.
@donl7737
@donl7737 4 года назад
My SP4 is also still rocking. Pre-ordered it right after it was released, now mainly using it for note-taking, media consumption, and video conferencing.
@yamamancha
@yamamancha 4 года назад
The only thing "close" is the price.
@dnghn.design
@dnghn.design 4 года назад
Hm
@lh6843
@lh6843 4 года назад
The SP does not support a wide variety of apps. It’s more of a traditional laptop. But very functional nonetheless. iPad Pro supports a multitude of different applications designed specifically for apple use making it more versatile to use for many different things. I have both, but I defer to SP when I need to use excel. Excel for apple, not so good.
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 4 года назад
iPad Pro is just a big iPhone, nothing more nothing less. Take away external attachments and what can you do on an iPad Pro that you can't do on an iPhone Pro Max. Videos, photos, editing videos/photos, watching movies, MS office, play games can be done on both devices. Only major difference is opening two windows at once.
@bmbell71
@bmbell71 4 года назад
I've had my current surface pen for over a year and have never had to charge the batteries in it. The Surface Pen feels and writes like a real pen, the Apple pencil IMO is too stiff and rigid by comparison. If you want a device to use as a note taking device, the Surface wins out hands down. The integration with Windows 10, One Note and Windows inking is far better than the after thought that is in iOS and iPad OS. I've used both devices. I can't comment on art drawing, because I'm not an artist.
@GuitarRockPlayer
@GuitarRockPlayer 4 года назад
How is the durability of the surface pen? I want a surface 2in1 but I've seen that Microsoft is selling the tips a part so I thought that the pen doesn't last forever and that concerned me because I don't want to buy a lot of pens because they are not quite cheap. Can you tell me your experience with the pen? It would be helpful thanks.
@bmbell71
@bmbell71 4 года назад
@@GuitarRockPlayer I've had mine a year and a half, no issues with it what-so-ever. You can get tip replacements, but durability doesn't seem to be an issue to me.
@arctikstorm
@arctikstorm 4 года назад
@@GuitarRockPlayer It's usually not a problem, but if you are a heavy-handed writer you can buy 4 tips for 9.99$ in many tech stores.
@GuitarRockPlayer
@GuitarRockPlayer 4 года назад
@@bmbell71 Thanks for the reply man. I hope to get mine soon
@GuitarRockPlayer
@GuitarRockPlayer 4 года назад
@@arctikstorm OK Thanks 🙂
@sitoudien9816
@sitoudien9816 4 года назад
I think your next purchase depends on what you have presently. iPad is an accessory. SP7 is a full computer. If you have a relatively modern computer, then get an iPad. If you have a very old computer , then get the SP7.
@yeaididdat666
@yeaididdat666 4 года назад
Yes finally someone gets the concept that I have
@user-xh5pi2nf9q
@user-xh5pi2nf9q 4 года назад
Thanks for comparison. Im going for SP7 because of my own personal workflow. On the gaming front, it would be interesting to see which one works better with game streaming services from local/cloud services in future. I use Steam-Inhome streaming alot because my main rig is in my garage-office. I have also toyed with Parsec. Now that Stadia is coming out id be curious if either chipset would be better with the H264/H265 encoding for these needs.
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
Once I get more time in with these game streaming services I'll try to put together a good video for sure
@mikederoos5839
@mikederoos5839 4 года назад
As long as i can't use the full version of word, PowerPoint etc. I wouldn't even consider to buy the IPad
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 года назад
Lol
@nuloom
@nuloom 4 года назад
just as a sidenote, Keynote is far better than powerpoint.. Not sure about word. But Apple has its own suite of software similar to Microsoft’s, except it’s not subscription based. The advantage of that is that you can access all software from the cloud on any computer and open files even if you’re not logged in to your account on which you’re paying.
@AR9ify
@AR9ify 4 года назад
Simon functionality is nowhere near full MS Office applications.
@nuloom
@nuloom 4 года назад
AR9fy You’d be surprised. A lot of the functionality exclusive to the Office subscription are gimmicks. Apple’s apps also have full desktop versions that apart from packing all functionality that one might need, do it in a far more intuitive way. Here’s an example, an extended version of what i said before. Keynote has a layers tab that’s directly accessible within one click. It has tools to set guides, lock and hide layers fast, etc, it makes it easy to create really advanced alignment defaults and defaults as a whole, has these ingenious buttons to copy and paste object styles that works similarly to Adobe Illustrator’s colour picker, just making presentations with it is far more efficient than with PowerPoint and the results are often more graphically pleasing, speaking as a graphic designer. Actually, most designers including myself prefer it for building presentations. Apple’s tools don’t have poorer functionality, they have a different functionality that’s focused on bringing an experience people can be familiar with rather than making a completely new experience and trying to get people to get used to that. Aside from that a lot of functionality Office gives is ridiculous and completely unneeded. The entire point of the software is organisation and document management. I don’t know how about OneNote and software that has no alternatives directly from Apple, but as a matter of fact in 2019, Office is only necessary if it’s enforced by somebody, whether it’s an official in a company or just a teacher. Me ditching the suite actually made me reconsider how i should use such tools and made me more work focused. And the ribbon ui design has yet to look visually appealing. While i see why some people want to use Office or don’t have a choice, the entire point i’m trying to make here is that it really is not as industry leading as Microsoft tries to make it seem. What a long paragraph summarised in one sentence.
@X--ig9eo
@X--ig9eo 4 года назад
@@nuloom when did apple apps have full desktop version? You mean that ARM apps have X86 capability? Uneducated applesheep
@vg4902
@vg4902 4 года назад
You can also charge the SP7 using a USB-C charger if you want to. You don't need to use the proprietary charger.
@linkster5564
@linkster5564 4 года назад
Honestly, I just want something to take good notes in class and occasionally play RuneScape
@abdallahjarkas
@abdallahjarkas 4 года назад
check surface go
@linkster5564
@linkster5564 4 года назад
@@abdallahjarkas I have, but it's a bit small for taking notes. I would prefer something around the same size as a spiral notebook.
@mysterygirlski
@mysterygirlski 4 года назад
@@linkster5564 SP 7 or the new X if you have a bit more wiggle on the budget. It's gorgeous, large for note taking and the slim pen is amazing
@abrararifify
@abrararifify 4 года назад
If you wanna take notes and already have a laptop, iPad Pro is hands down the way to go
@ryan4305
@ryan4305 4 года назад
Same... I never liked/owned Apple products but I think the Ipad Pro is the way to go, I have a powerful desktop for the heavy load and the Ipad would be a great additional tool. The battery of my SP decided not to charge anymore... might try to replace but I think I prefer to pay the full price for a brand new Ipad than paying for something that might fail again.
@KK-gc5lj
@KK-gc5lj 4 года назад
Whenever you are mentioning those prices , my heart beat is skipping a beat.🤕🥵
@MoreLikeCappuccino
@MoreLikeCappuccino 4 года назад
buy a refurbished one atleast surface pro 4 - currently on amazon for like 450
@dezinfectant
@dezinfectant 4 года назад
are you kk slider
@JP-xd2st
@JP-xd2st 4 года назад
The rise of iPad a decade ago was because laptop technology was not there to work as a tablet, and iPad offers a simpler operating platform in order to cope with a handy tablet/phone device. But today the advance in tablet hardware can sufficiently cope with a pc operating system. That’s why surface pro will always win as time goes on. The iPhone/iPad era has gone long ago when Steve job died.
@hjacobson22
@hjacobson22 4 года назад
Thanks for the review. I Have had a Surface Pro 7, I7, 16 Gb ram for a week and this is such a great device. There may be some small bugs to work out still but they are nearly imperceivable and I have seen them improved with updates. I love the surface pen. It has good drag like a pencil or pen because of the rubber tip. I like that.
@mysterygirlski
@mysterygirlski 4 года назад
I hate that because I do digital art. I got the Slim Pen with a paper screen protector and its a dream. The slim pen is much better for illustrators.
@stevebowen9412
@stevebowen9412 4 года назад
Watched a few of these comparisons and this one is by far the most unbiased. Lots of pratical usage type comparisions. Great vid, thanks!
@ManuelOrbeaOtaola
@ManuelOrbeaOtaola 4 года назад
Waiting for surface pro 8 which will probably have the design of the pro x.
@PravinDahal
@PravinDahal 3 года назад
Doesn't look like it's coming out in 2021 either.
@theunorthodox828
@theunorthodox828 4 года назад
My sp7's windows hello unlocks the device instantly even in a pitch black room
@KuroHebi
@KuroHebi 4 года назад
I was surprised to see that my SP7 could recognize me in the dark. Amazing 2-in-1 tablet.
@Stef-iq4dh
@Stef-iq4dh 4 года назад
how come I've been reading so many reviews in the microsoft website that the surface pro 7 has so many issues like shutting off randomly or being laggy. what are your guys' experience on this?
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 4 года назад
If you want the truth go to Best Buy's review page. Read comments from people who have actually spent their hard-earned money on the device. The SP 7 great and 97% of people on BB would recommend it to a friend. I own an SP 7 (i5, 8 ram) and will never go back to a traditional laptop. Ended up turning my ASUS 17-inch laptop (i7, 16 ram, dual fans) into my desktop.
@Monami262
@Monami262 4 года назад
Cant compare an SP7 with Ipad Pro. Maybe Surface pro x is closer competitor to Ipad pro. Surface pro 7 can run all full desktop app and runs like a laptop. Unfortunately ipad only run mobile apps. No comparison
@nathaniel23946
@nathaniel23946 4 года назад
Honestly it depends on what ecosystem you are used to. I actually bought the surface pro and then I returned it after 2 weeks of usage. Later on I actually bought the iPad pro. I mainly use it for note taking in graduate school and the apple pencil is definitely a whole lot better. It's just my own opinion after trying both device pencil.
@mysterygirlski
@mysterygirlski 4 года назад
I agree the old pen was trash for me but the new Slim Pen is amazing and feels even better than the Pencil.
@GyanPrakash
@GyanPrakash 4 года назад
One can run full OS and the other a mobile OS that’s the difference.
@_A_T
@_A_T 4 года назад
An i5 laptop, compare with a tablet, and you called it close!? What are you smoking? iPad with a keyboard just makes it "look" like a laptop, but it's not a laptop.
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
It’s more than just adding a keyboard... with iPad OS you get mouse support and external drive support. Plus the A12X is plenty powerful enough for video/photo editing apps. I think you would be surprised what you can accomplish on an iPad if you actually were to try it.
@pilot3103ify
@pilot3103ify 4 года назад
@@OT4Tech The major disadvantage of iPadOS is it's still a very young OS. It's like a child in an adult body. There's only so much you can do with an iPad, but that also means that the current iPad pro can probably last another 3-4 years until it becomes obsolete.
@_A_T
@_A_T 4 года назад
@@leonel9110 so? It is still a mobile OS.
@leonel9110
@leonel9110 4 года назад
@@_A_T obviously but I'm talking about the processors
@michaeltesta9965
@michaeltesta9965 4 года назад
Using apps made for tablets on iPad is FAR superior & more enjoyable to running a Windows tablet. It’s not even close. The reason why these comparisons continue is for this reason - and people keep wondering if their desktop use-case can be accomplished with each new app release/OS release. To me, the answer is simple. Build a desktop and remote into it with a cellular iPad (w/ KB & mouse support) for your use-cases that are not yet easily handled by a true tablet OS Devices that I own that I used for comparison: *Lenovo X1 Tablet (3rd gen) w/ dual 4lane PCIe TB3 ports *2018 iPad Pro 12.9
@sonichedgehog36
@sonichedgehog36 4 года назад
Correction: Surface Pro 7 is more than capable of handling Adobe Premiere, which gives it an upper hand over the iPad Pro. You have two options: (1) Turn on Intel Quick Sync. With that, you are using hardware encoding so you will see an appreciable drop in video quality (the same as the iPad Pro, which uses hardware video acceleration). Quick Sync in the Surface Pro 7's Ice Lake Core processor is even faster and higher quality than earlier iterations. If it is anything like the last generation, Quick Sync will be faster than Apple's proprietary video encoding solution. (2) Use software encoding. Software encoding is significantly higher quality. It's what world-class studios use for mastering and archival work. With the iPad Pro, practically all video editing apps force you to use Apple's on-chip hardware encoding. Plus, the encode times won't be that long and it's worth it if you are claim you are doing truly professional work. Thanks to the Ice Lake Core processors' performance leap, their software encoding is on-par with 90-watt desktop quad-core processors from just a couple years ago. The bottom line: The iPad Pro is acceptable for semi-professional work and casual editing where you are uploading to RU-vid or Facebook where quality is less important. But to the discerning users, the Surface Pro 7 is the definitive choice. That's why, with good reason, B&H Photo Video often recommends Microsoft Surface to their pro audience.
@PeteOliva
@PeteOliva 4 года назад
I was just editing videos this past weekend on my new SP7. Even my i5 runs Premiere Pro like a CHAMP. Couldn't be happier.
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 года назад
Good
@DanielHarrisCodes
@DanielHarrisCodes 4 года назад
I don't do video but imagine that the i5 SP7 would handle video encoding just fine - It's even faster than the i7 from the SP6. Sometimes I think people get bogged down in theory and opinions when it comes to what a machine can/can't do. When it comes to PCs they will do almost anything you want them to, it might just take longer and use more battery. I've done coding on the Surface Go for example, REAL work that's gone into production environments. This has been when I am travelling light, say for a weekend away with just a small backpack and had to make an emergency change for work. There isn't really a cut off except for games when it comes to the 8th - 10th gen intel devices like the Surface Pro 6 and 7 in terms of what they can do. There is no artificial limitations imposed in Windows. If you want to try and run a brand new game on the SP7 and put everything to low, reduce the resolution then it'll probably play smooth enough if you are happy with the lower visual quality. SP7 can do professional video editing I'm sure of it, it may not be the BEST device on the market but if you want a single device that can do almost anything it's probably the best choice.
@VoodooGuitar
@VoodooGuitar 3 года назад
It's strange, in the video the Surface Pro 7 actually sounds like it has a more dynamic range with your sound test, I wonder if they sound much different in person.
@janTelo
@janTelo 4 года назад
Yeah, I'm returning my iPad Pro. The iPad is a really good tablet, and that's it. It excels at drawing, but for doing literally anything else, the Surface is better.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 4 года назад
i doubt you even had an iPad. you can do basically anything you could on a Mac just as well, and even better in some ways.
@tmac9127
@tmac9127 4 года назад
I just scooped the Surface Pro 7 i7 model with 256SSD, the new Slim Pen and Type Cover for under $1500. I have to say it has been blazing through every task I toss at it and I'm a software engineer. I love the iPad line of products for tablet use, but when it comes to getting serious work done you just can't beat the convenience of the Surface Pro 7. I mostly use Illustrator and drawing apps, text editors with my favorite programming tools, with more than enough powerful photo editing and video editing apps with NO problem. I have been able to play games using the Xbox game pass and my 8Bitdo controller and so far so good no issues. I'm hoping maybe I can figure out the whole Xcloud thing and test that somehow. Maybe emulate via Bluestacks and see how it holds up. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
@Dormatekno
@Dormatekno 4 года назад
Surface Pro 7❤️
@chakk0
@chakk0 3 года назад
Fact!
@daymianhayes2493
@daymianhayes2493 3 года назад
You can play Xbox games on it!
@mxazrecitizen
@mxazrecitizen 3 года назад
And can coding to make app
@Adrian-wd4rn
@Adrian-wd4rn 4 года назад
"these devices aren't made for editing heavy videos"....erm, my i7 16 gb ram model would love to disagree.
@matthewlopez178
@matthewlopez178 4 года назад
How is the fan noise on your i7? Something noticeable or no?
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 года назад
Lol
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 года назад
@@matthewlopez178 it doesn't have fanmaybe
@matthewlopez178
@matthewlopez178 4 года назад
@@anandsuralkar2947 the i7 versions do
@DanielHarrisCodes
@DanielHarrisCodes 4 года назад
@@matthewlopez178 Correct they do, since the SP5 though the fan comes on a lot less on the i7 models though. I would prefer the i5 myself IF you could get it in black w/ 16GB RAM. I don't even NEED the 16GB Ram most of the time, but sometimes have to run Virtual Machines locally instead of in the cloud. In terms of the fan, I have the i7 Surface Book 2 (The fanless i5 SP7 is actually faster CPU wise) and the fan barely ever comes on when I am coding or running VMs etc. so I think the SP7 i7 will be similar despite it being smaller with less room for heat to disperse
@zekesalazar8356
@zekesalazar8356 4 года назад
Hey, have you compared testing the studio mics of SP7 with the iPad Pro's mic? I was curious about that as well.
@cliffords2315
@cliffords2315 3 года назад
there is also now a Surface Pro X that has studio quality mics and cameras but runs on a Qualcom instead of Intel i5
@onlysublime
@onlysublime 4 года назад
I picked up the surface pro 7 with i7, 16GB,and 256 storage. This machine is a beast! I even use it for vr.
@changye9604
@changye9604 4 года назад
Bruh, what? How is that even possible?
@kailashnathan3609
@kailashnathan3609 4 года назад
@onlysublime How good is it so faar?
@onlysublime
@onlysublime 4 года назад
@@changye9604 because the iris graphics meets the checklist. I can't play some of the intense games. But I can play space pirate trainer and smaller games.
@onlysublime
@onlysublime 4 года назад
@@kailashnathan3609 I love it. Will never go back to a normal laptop.
@nic_ccc3366
@nic_ccc3366 4 года назад
Good comparison. The iPad would be my choice as a personal device (for media consumption, email, web browsing). However because productivity and running my small business is my main need, the Surface is much better. Don’t have to worry about being limited to mobile apps, and using a trackpad is better than swiping the screen all the time. iPadOS has definitely widened the functionality of the device, but with that has necessarily come the greater learning curve for gestures, which can be cumbersome at times. For multitasking, iPadOS is not as good as Windows.
@MrDucatiV4
@MrDucatiV4 4 года назад
How is a Microsoft Tablet/laptop and a Apple tablet even close? One is a full fledge i3/i5/i7 laptop with Iris+ grahics and the other is just another big iPad. The Surface Pro 7 can also charge with USB C port. There are many reasons why companies uses Surface Pro and not iPads. Surface Pro 7 can run full fledge Adobe programs like Photoshop, illustrator, Premier, and ect so the iPad is not even close.
@samsamsam3
@samsamsam3 4 года назад
A12x is just as powerful as i5 but its OS is the difference.
@NOLATechy
@NOLATechy 4 года назад
1) I don't know...from what I heard for the audio, the SP7 actually sounded like it had more base, which made it sound a little better. It wasn't as "loud", but it was definitely clearer and richer. 2) If you're looking for a device to do work or study like on a real laptop, buy the SP7. If you're looking for a large iPhone to play games on and watch movies, buy the iPad Pro.
@BenCaesar
@BenCaesar 4 года назад
I heard you can run full programs on surface and that brought me here. Great video! I think I'll wait it out until developers design their full software for both laptop and tablet cos optimizing for touch is kind of the point imho.
@silan2335
@silan2335 4 года назад
My Dell Latitude from 2011 with an upgrade on the ssd is running perfectly all programs I need to code and all the paradox games I play. Battery is on point with a replacement for 35.- in 2016.. My parents iPad 2 doesn't even stream videos smooth anymore, battery is two hours and there are soo many apps you can't download from the appstore because they don't want you to. And they even havent used it much.. In 2029 I shoud come back here and complain how they took away the possibility to own your electronic devices and that the subscription fees are too high... Where is this all leading.. These two are the strongest entries every year into the future way of computing.. These tablets are priced well over 1000$ and you can't really repair them if they bend in your bag. You can't replace the battery or storage. And you can't change your OS, or at least not without some very strong drawbacks. "But the user wants that..." I don't get it. But hey, this is the future and we should be excited about it..
@Jimmyfly215
@Jimmyfly215 4 года назад
how about my Surface Pro 6 I am watching on? where is the love?
@Glamrgrl104
@Glamrgrl104 4 года назад
What do you use yours for? How's it holding up
@kailashnathan3609
@kailashnathan3609 4 года назад
@James Sweeney Does it work well for long term use?
@daphnevasquez8383
@daphnevasquez8383 4 года назад
I’m looking for one for drawing and school work
@karolinacutler7353
@karolinacutler7353 4 года назад
Why didn't you use the Surface Pro 7 256GB 16GB RAM instead of the 8GB RAM one that you used? The 16GB RAM model has other extras too, even the graphics card. This model is the one I've got and it would blow the iPad out of the water, it's a PC that can be used as a tablet, while the iPad Pro is a tablet that can be used kinda like a PC. Very different! I'm using apps and full programs, try using a full program on an iPad?!
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 4 года назад
Apple marketers never present unbiased information or make fair comparisons...
@samratspeaks
@samratspeaks 4 года назад
Nobody: Literally Nobody: Not a single soul:: Tech reviewers: Video editing in this device...Games.....
@getoffamylan6844
@getoffamylan6844 4 года назад
I love how every techtuber review focuses entirely on a devices video editing. Now smart watch? How does it edit video? C'mon guys, get just a little bit out of your own little world willya?
@PurushNahiMahaPurush
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 4 года назад
@@getoffamylan6844 They focus on video editing and then claim that the ipad pro can replace a laptop. Lmfao. Yea sure. Let me get on with my CAD modelling and software development with Visual Studio on my iPad pro. Oh wait, it doesn't even have software support. 90% of techtubers are a waste of storage space on RU-vid servers.
@PurushNahiMahaPurush
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 4 года назад
It can't even run games properly. I can run Witcher 3 on low settings from my Steam library without having to purchase it again. Gaming is objectively better on the Surface Pro 7.
@Lanziee01
@Lanziee01 4 года назад
Does surface pro 7 heat up easily and has strong fan sound? My Surface pro 4 did after a year and I'm thinking of switching to ipad ..🤔
@VibrGames
@VibrGames 4 года назад
How is a 4:3 screen better than 3:2 for media consumption?
@Ayrton866
@Ayrton866 4 года назад
3:2 gets bigger black bars.
@VibrGames
@VibrGames 4 года назад
@@Ayrton866 4:3 is the same as 12:9 and 3:2 is the same as 12:8, which means 3:2 has less height which means smaller black bars.
@GyanPrakash
@GyanPrakash 4 года назад
One is a real computer 💻 one is I don’t know what.
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 года назад
Why are u comparing non cellular while surface x has LTE
@FS-me8mj
@FS-me8mj 4 года назад
why are we comparing full blown windows 10 with a mobile os? The comparison is totally flawed
@op8ztv
@op8ztv 4 года назад
because they're in the same price range and are both physically tablet devices...
@FS-me8mj
@FS-me8mj 4 года назад
@@op8ztv I hope you know the difference between the usage of a tablet and a laptop.
@op8ztv
@op8ztv 4 года назад
@@FS-me8mj The Surface Pro isn't a laptop...
@FS-me8mj
@FS-me8mj 4 года назад
@@op8ztv what is it then? Is it a tablet? No. So it's a laptop. Is Ipad a tablet? Yes.
@robertmays4250
@robertmays4250 4 года назад
I've already got an iPad Pro 12.9; I'm going to be getting an SP7 in a couple of weeks. I like the iPad Pro, but it just doesn't do the things I really want to do. It's great for surfing the web, or watching TV and movies, reading email and playing games from the app store, but for development, everything seems to be "make it on the Mac, run it on the iPad". I'm too heavily invested in Windows to switch to Mac at this point; it's Windows 7 (soon to be 10) at work, and Windows 10 at home. With the SP7, I can use Visual Studio, and Office on the platform it runs on the best. And I haven't had a great deal of luck trying to remote into either Win7 or Win10 using the iPad; the connection just isn't stable enough.
@wally19
@wally19 2 года назад
I got the SP7 at 600$ from MS store, it supposed to be delivered on Wednesday.
@jeanbaptistelabelle
@jeanbaptistelabelle 4 года назад
It is wrong: Face ID is NOT more secure than Windows Hello. Windows Hello is based on the XBox kinect and Face ID basically copied the system (with a infrared light to map the depth of the face). I do not know where it is coming from but Windows Hello is as secured as it gets.
@sebastian993
@sebastian993 4 года назад
An honest review of a Microsoft product by a tech reviewer - I'm shocked, I tells yah
@Montpbm7
@Montpbm7 4 года назад
Right me too, all these other clowns head is stuck so far up Apples behind they can't even see all of the flaws IPads has.
@chandansingh283
@chandansingh283 3 года назад
Which one is better for ... Collage student..for notes taking , pdf reading.. and many study purpose?
@vanessab6123
@vanessab6123 4 года назад
Which device is better for gaming? Which one support pc games?
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout 4 года назад
It's nice that Microsoft is giving you so much power, if you want it. If you want more battery life you can dial down a bit the horsepower. i5 is faster than i7 last year and even faster than Surface Book 2. That's incredible
@joshuah_olen
@joshuah_olen 4 года назад
just picked up the surface pro 7 i3 for $599 at Best Buy. Pretty much fresh out of the box right now, but im loving it so far. I'm not a huge fan of iOS, and i think this one is gonna be perfect for me. Thanks for the video!
@re.nate.g
@re.nate.g 4 года назад
SO, I am intrested in both of these, but where I'm from the surface pro 6 it's worth the double than the ipad pro 12.9... sooo yeah. Also. In the long term, which one is better? I've seen people still using the ipad 2 and it's still decent, what about a surface? how long will the specs last?
@JohnBrosan
@JohnBrosan 4 года назад
It really does depend on your needs. The iPad is tablet first, while the SP7 is Laptop first, tablet second. I'm still on the fence with these devices. I'm a software engineer and artist. The engineer side says SP7, the artist side says iPad Pro. I'm just going to cool my jets for a while and see what shakes out between these two.
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
Yeah I don’t blame you. They are both incredible devices at the end of the day.
@JohnBrosan
@JohnBrosan 4 года назад
@@OT4Tech They really are and I don't think I can go wrong with either one. I love the Apple Pencil experience on the iPad Pro, and I love the idea of being able to do art AND code on the SP7...I really just need to see how the MS pen experience works for me. And then there is the Surface Pro X. LOL! something new and exciting to consider. Makes me want to draw on it and develop apps for it all at the same time. I think I should just go and do some coding on my desktop for a bit. LOL
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
I would wait for the Pro X. Hopefully I’ll be getting one for testing but that might be the one to beat. The Surface Pen experience is nearly identical to the Apple Pencil but I love the ergonomics and tactile button so much more on the Surface Pen.
@JohnBrosan
@JohnBrosan 4 года назад
@@OT4Tech Definitely waiting to see how The SPX performs. I am hoping its super competitive with the iPad Pro. Excited to see your review!
@aliefr2984
@aliefr2984 4 года назад
@@JohnBrosan don't buy pro x, since it use mobile processor most app won't work.
@losusmil
@losusmil 4 года назад
I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that Ive used specifically for work and school only, it still works great but its a bit slow at times, even after upgrading the RAM. I recently got into Grad school for Occupational Therapy and Ive been considering getting a tablet for it specifically and later to use at work. Needless to say i am looking for the best device for productivity. Im having such a hard time deciding which one to go with. Im not a gamer nor a photographer so games and photo apps are not important to me. I care about how efficient it works when it comes to note taking, recording docs, using google docs, Microsoft office. Im leaning towards the Surface, but Im worried that after using Mac for so many years it'll be confusing making the switch. Any advice? Thanks!
@kishores7034
@kishores7034 4 года назад
Comparison doesn't even exist Surface Pro is way superior
@onlysublime
@onlysublime 4 года назад
Windows hello on surface uses infrared tech from the kinect days and should work well in all lighting conditions even pure darkness. The only scenario where it fails is outdoor sunlight bc the sun's ir will overwhelm the ir sensor.
@ahpoiseheh
@ahpoiseheh 4 года назад
Lol.
@noelsoong777
@noelsoong777 4 года назад
I use the surface but I think the ipad's stylus is superior.
@marcs4128
@marcs4128 4 года назад
As someone who owns galaxy tab as well as the surface pro, I can guarantee you that the tablet experience is fine on SP, it could do with some minor improvements but it's fine. My only grievances I wish that when you close or minimize an app, that it goes to the app Switcher screen rather than the start screen.
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 года назад
Yes they're both going for the ultra portable market but the software means they're barely comparable. One offers full desktop computing, one offers the perfect tablet computing. It's a stupid comparison really because neither is the winner. I'd alwsys choose Surface Pro as I don't need to own a laptop too but I can see why people may prefer an iPad,/iPad Pro.
@bxhrami
@bxhrami 4 года назад
Great review. Probably the only fair review of the iPad Pro I’ve ever seen. All other youtubers are obsessed with the pro...
@shahhan01
@shahhan01 4 года назад
I don't think iPadPro and surface pro should be compared on a 1 to 1 bases. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Yes some people will like apples and others oranges. But does it make any sense comparing the taste, feel and sensation of eating each one and put it up side by side? My point being, ones a laptop in a tablets body (sp7) and one is a phone in a tablets body (iPad Pro) you can't compare a phone to a laptop. (Just trying to simplify the initial analogy) I can understand that some people might not be able to understand what the difference is between the two devices, and videos should focus on that aspect. And that aspect is primarily the OS more than anything else.
@kailashnathan3609
@kailashnathan3609 4 года назад
So did you buy the surface pro? How's it so far? Good for long term use>?
@infinitealeaf
@infinitealeaf 4 года назад
Do you shut down your surface pro? Or can it hold its battery in standby/sleep for a couple of days? (For quick startup/instant on) thanks.
@AlumarsX
@AlumarsX 4 года назад
Is there any reason I should look at the i7 vs the i5 you used in this test on the SP7? The only processor intensive tasks I'll be doing is editing pictures in Capture One with a browser running in the background with 15-20 tabs.
@mysterygirlski
@mysterygirlski 4 года назад
I only got it to future proof my device since I use these for many years, I had a Surface Pro 3 i7 until recently when I got my Pro 7 i7.The i7 remains powerful for much longer but if you switch your devices every year or so I would stick with the i5, it is plenty powerful.
@AlumarsX
@AlumarsX 4 года назад
@@mysterygirlski For me at least, I think battery life will start being a problem before the CPU starts feeling slow. Plus the i5 being fanless I guess should hold up more to abuse.
@mysterygirlski
@mysterygirlski 4 года назад
@@AlumarsX I got a light portable charger and this supports USB C charging so battery life isnt a huge problem
@lookatallthesetumers856
@lookatallthesetumers856 4 года назад
Why is does this man not have a million subscribers yet?
@Rexxthespecialist
@Rexxthespecialist 4 года назад
Got the surface pro 7 in Black Friday from the windows store in the mall for $999 (i5 8gb ram 256Gb SSD). Including the Alcántara keyboard and the windows pen 🖊 Not sure if the iPad had any sale but I believe this is pretty hard to beat.
@DasSparschwein
@DasSparschwein 3 года назад
pro 7 with i5 has massive heat problems. Can‘t use with Teams, Surface dock and 2 monitors
@ciuby76
@ciuby76 4 года назад
Hi..interesting video! I see you have tried Diablo3 on SP7 can you share some details? Was it good? Resolution, FPS, ... those kind of nerdy data. Very appreciated!
@bqureshi21
@bqureshi21 4 года назад
i think ipad only has an upper hand in touch screen interface. sp and other hybrids have not gotten fully optimized touch capabilities (occasionally unresponsive, laggy/juttery animations, etc.) - however, sp is very close to ideal for its touch experience. having a fully fledged operating system is simply unbeatable though. the sheer level of restriction in your productivity on an ipad is just too cumbersome.
@HT-pl8du
@HT-pl8du 4 года назад
how are you getting 10+ hours??? im barely reaching 5 hours so i have no idea what im doing wrong!
@reversicle212
@reversicle212 4 года назад
which one would be better for a computer engineer student or indie game developer? pls send help
@adoseoflemon6200
@adoseoflemon6200 4 года назад
would it be nice to see the next surface pro to have amd processors, tiny bessels, 120hz, larger screen and a reasonable price tag.
@Branistar
@Branistar 2 года назад
i got the sp7 and it was clearly the right choice...i can do work in fusion 360 and in autocad just like on my desktop, which was the main argument for me... hell, right now as i type im copying files to a sd card from my imac 2011 with windows 7 to transfer them on my sp7... i got an ipad air which i bought a few years ago and its mainly a consumption device, no real work can be done on it...
@anbishtamang
@anbishtamang 4 года назад
I would say surface pro is more suited for school work and iPad is suited for media consumption.
@naumankhokhar6471
@naumankhokhar6471 4 года назад
it will be great if you could right on the screen about the device you're talkign about. so that if people are fast forwarding to their relevant section, they may know which device are you talking about
@hardikbagaria6117
@hardikbagaria6117 4 года назад
Surface pro 7 always !!
@f.a9687
@f.a9687 3 года назад
Hello Does the surface pro 7 get heat up when using it?
@Mushroomcorvid
@Mushroomcorvid 4 года назад
I literally got the surface 7 (the model with the dedicated GPU tho) so I could easily play diablo
@Glamrgrl104
@Glamrgrl104 4 года назад
Looking at surface pro 6 for drawing , light game s and watching movies or using obs studio for speed paints. Is it good for that?
@trustno1test25
@trustno1test25 4 года назад
Man these products should not be compared!!! Simply put - one is a tablet (IPad pro) the other is a 2-1 laptop (Surface pro). I own a MacBook Pro (not a designer or professional or anything, just bought it because I use Linux at work and thought let’s buy a second hand MacBook Pro and use terminal to practise and python). Mum got a Surface pro from work and Aunty has iPad Pro with pen etc. I used both and can simply say Surface pro is a laptop or computer replacement- it has a USB port and lovely keyboard (bought separately) whilst iPad Pro is beautiful to look at and use but it’s not a laptop. It’s a premium tablet that doesn’t have any usb peripherals or allows you to download 3rd party apps outside of App Store. Apple wouldn’t risk making the iPad a 2-1 as it would take the shine away from MacBook Air or pros. Why pay 1k or more when I can get a 2-1 that does the same. Apple does however, make the iPad a great experience. I hear all the chatter about the A12 processors and battery life which is great but doesn’t mean much if it still can’t do normal computing stuff bar the bare minimum
@SimplisticVR
@SimplisticVR 4 года назад
What do you guys think, i have a gaming laptop which has noisy fans and poor battery life for school, but i have thought about getting the ipad pro 2018 11” for my notes like word and so on, and all that kind of things, but when i need something which isn’t on the ipad i will take the laptop to school that day?
@thethinkmine
@thethinkmine 4 года назад
can the ipad install sql server? have virtual machines on it? install visual studio code? does it have xcode and can you use it to build apps for it or will you need another device in order to do those things?
@Amber57499
@Amber57499 4 года назад
Anyhting about the back (main) camera? I'm 100% sure the iPad has a better camera, I just want to know how much worse the one in the SP7 is. I own the iPad Pro 12.9, I'm selling it to get a SP7 (i7 version though).
@h1a8
@h1a8 4 года назад
You forgot the most important thing (video editing is of little importance to most people), the ability to use FULL office applications. In other words, students and professionals who need the full version (use advanced features) of the office apps should get the surface pro. Although you pointed it out, the headphone jack is a strong reason to consider the surface pro if one has good quality wired headphones (like me).
@ann._.002
@ann._.002 4 года назад
So digital note taking in SP7... is it as good as the ipad? Does good notes and notability work in the SP7? If not what are similar apps that i can install on the SP7? I'm looking forward to creating a visual hand written book with digital drawings for my pre med years to come just like what Samuel Suresh did in his yt channel..
@dubon6372
@dubon6372 4 года назад
One note! Do a RU-vid search for one note on the SP7 and out will see how powerful it is. I have the SP7 and Love it. I will also get the 2020 iPad pro when it launches this year. I like them both but if I had to choose I would pick the SP7 unless apple launches a real keyboard with mouse pad and full screen option for external monitors. Until then, they are still behind Microsoft.
@ronald7482
@ronald7482 4 года назад
Why to compare an iPad with a laptop?
@Edwardz_c
@Edwardz_c 4 года назад
Hello. What’s the name of your app that shows upcoming release of nike af1 skeleton ?
@heinovanwaelem8275
@heinovanwaelem8275 4 года назад
Good review! Thanks!
@Dragoninja
@Dragoninja 4 года назад
For myself the SP7 is the way to go. I like the USB A Port, & spending the extra $130 for the type cover/keyboard is well worth the price. The keyboard is also backlit as well as having a track pad.
@callumbird2749
@callumbird2749 4 года назад
Really it comes down to windows vs ipad os.
@PersiaAhmad
@PersiaAhmad 4 года назад
I think iPad pro should be compared with Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 instead. But even that has better mouse support than iPad OS. Not to mention that you get a free magnificent stylus, that never need charging, thanks to Wacom technologies used in it since Samsung shares a few things with Wacom.
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 года назад
Contrary to what every reviewer says you don't need to add the pen/pencil. Its only of use for some users. Microsoft even stopped including it with the Surface Pro 5 onwards as they said only a small portion of people use it. I've barely used mine. I just don't need to Ink in Office. I keep thinking I should use it but don't.
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
It’s not that you “need” it, what I meant was to get the full experience of a Surface Pro you should get the pen. The reason why the Surface Pro has the style of kickstand it has is for use with the Pen and designing. Even the touch screen was added specifically for the Pen. They are a luxury brand like Apple so regardless of statements I can guarantee the pen is no longer included because they can make more profits by selling it as an additional accessory. It’s like Apple not including lightning to 3.5 dongles in the box any more.
@daniellechitwood8367
@daniellechitwood8367 3 года назад
Which would you say is better for college?
@ahfimiwonawun
@ahfimiwonawun 4 года назад
I’m not understanding your geekbench scores. The 2018 ipad pros are known to score within the 5000’s range for single core and in the 18000’s for multi-core. RU-vidrs have shown this and anyone can go to the geekbench site and see for themselves. What am I missing here?
@ahfimiwonawun
@ahfimiwonawun 4 года назад
Just looked at the surface pro 7 on geekbench and it scores about the same as the ipad pro too...
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
Geekbench 5 which is the newest version does not show results the same way as previous versions.
@ahfimiwonawun
@ahfimiwonawun 4 года назад
Got it.
@crystinlee2669
@crystinlee2669 3 года назад
I am a student studying interior design and looking for a tablet to do some design works such as drawing on Autocad, some rendering of floor plan. I'm not so sure which tablet is more suitable. Does anyone could give me some advices?
@sikkohoekstra1305
@sikkohoekstra1305 4 года назад
I have an Ipad pro for three years and it still rocks. No Microsoft surface pro for me.
@jha3873
@jha3873 4 года назад
Great topic! Great delivery! First review video to force me to seriously consider the surface pro line vs Apple’s compelling IPad Pro 12.9 3rd Gen (which I am typing on). If there is something that I think could improve this review, it would be that the accessories (at least for the IPad Pro, which I am testing) could be better selected. In my opinion, the IPad Pro 12.9 3rd generation is capable of top-notch or near top notch drawing and note taking performance to make it more of a priority than a keyboard experience. Thus, the accessories or peripheral set-up should be more geared to writing/drawing angles rather than laptop-like typing. In that way, if you embedded links to videos related to those accessories/peripherals, I would click on those videos after watching this video. I don’t normally comment on videos but you seem to be on the right track topic-wise. Thanks for your review!
@OT4Tech
@OT4Tech 4 года назад
🙏 thank you!
@rolan7775
@rolan7775 3 года назад
Hey bro, awesome video👏 wanted to ask u something reallly quick, I am a student and I was looking forward to getting the surface pro 7, but I am kind of hesitant on which keyboard color I should get. I have already settled on the combo black surface pro and black pen but still don’t know which keyboard!😂 it would mean A lot if u would help💓
@JoIjloL
@JoIjloL 3 года назад
I'd say just stick with those colors, especially if that's the colors you like. I myself got the Poppy Red arc mouse, pen, and keypad.
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