@@HumbertoDeLaRochayeah I have the 15 pro and I bought it around launch. I remember my phone would get so hot I couldn’t even hold it. It’s better now but it still gets hotter than my previous phone (iPhone 11) ever did. It was supposed to be fixed but I’d say it was a half fix. The problem is still there
Higher refresh rate is overrated tbh, most people don't care or even know what it is. Personally I could take it or leave it for most use cases (with the exception of when I'm gaming, when the difference becomes important to me).
It's annoying how him and John always scoff at that complaint as if that opinion isn't valid if you are charging extra for a feature my 150 $ a15 Samsung phone has how is that not a rip off?
It’s called “ProMotion” not “StandardMotion”. ProMotion is for the Pro models only. I don’t anticipate this ever changing. It’s been this way since iPhone 13. 60 Hz is good enough for most people. It’s just a way Apple tries to convince you to buy the more expensive phone.
@@BimmerWon meanwhile budget phones have oled 120hz screens , there's nothing PRO about 120hz , just apple forcing people to pay more for a now standard feature on almost all phones
I’ve said before, apple now reminds me of the video game industry where they release something and promise to make it better in future updates. Marques Brownlee said it best. “Don’t buy tech based on the promise of future updates.”
thats bcs of that quote that's making me backing up my choice on a 16 Pro and getting a 15 Pro new at a lower price, then ill get the 17 when AI comes to iPhones in Europe
@@Jose-Luis.Garnica-Sanchez Yeah that’s totally fair and honestly I don’t fault him for that. It’s apple. They usually come through on what they say they’re gonna do. Still… it’s just so unusual for me to get hyped by apple on a product or service and then the main selling point of something… isn’t included in the product. That’s just my opinion though. (:
@@vanderslagmulders Yeah, fpt. Had a video that was solid. The concept marketing and product concepts were so on point, the entire production felt like it was apple.
I was on the fence but leaning towards “no”. Now for sure I’m not buying the 16. My 13 pro max is working great with plenty of storage space available. 👍🏻
I’m still rocking the 13 Pro Max also but I’ve noticed a problem where my phone goes into SOS mode and gets stuck there sometimes. I had a Sims card error and had to get a completely new Sims card.
Same exact situation here. iPhone 13 Pro Max 256GB with AT&T. Next year will be the finally $1000 coupon for my iPhone model so it will be an upgrade of iPhone 17.
Living in the EU, german speaking country, the Iphone 16 pro is a 15 pro with a tiny bit more battery and an additional button. Apple not delivering on AI here makes me very much thinking about switching to a google phone.
Living in Norway and now having a 15PM in very good condition I think I this year will keep my current iPhone, and I really will say you may be very right in this statement: "Living in the EU, german speaking country, the Iphone 16 pro is a 15 pro with a tiny bit more battery and an additional button." And further: I think that this new button, contrary to what most of all think, may be a problematic button, as it may inadvertently be activated just by holding the phone normally in a vertical way, when you not intend to use the camera (or more specific: "the new camera button".
@@kyttraus Koreans aren't a bunch of INTJ who only hire other INTJ. Fun fact, INTJ are the LEAST able personality type at creating user interface and user experience.
just ordered the max model. dont really give an f about ai i just wanted a new phone but if apple uses this as an iphone 17 feature and not an iphone 16 feature im gonna sue them
You can't sue Apple just because you don't like their product. They don't force anyone to buy their products and they don't lie about what's on offer, so you'd be wasting your time.
Hey man I have the base 12 model as well 64gb I’m upgrading this year idk if ur interested but I’d love to come back to this comment and tell u if it’s worth it but I don’t blame u for waiting
call me a peasant but I actually learned something new from this video. Heaven forbid this guy actually tries to make a living by taking a couple minutes to plug a sponsor that he actually used. Some of y’all are so entitled 🤦♂️
@@DR10440 They're talking about the info in the video being whipped up valueless fluff. First, AI isn't the only big improvement. Second, waiting a month for the AI isn't the end-of-the-world death penalty for whether it's a good upgrade or not. In other words this whole video is just fluff to plug in a sponsor. After being duped into losing precious minutes of your life, people have a right to be mad. It's not feeling entitled. It's feeling like our trust was betrayed. I don't mind a sponsor for an informative video.
The problem is that the changes in the iPhone 16 (all models) were so minor this year that it clearly didn’t deserve the "16" branding. The iPhone 16 and 16 Plus have a slightly bigger battery, a minor design update with the action button, a slightly better camera than last year, and a new photo-taking button. The iPhone 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max feature a bigger screen, a new battery, a slightly better camera with a photo button, and a new titanium finish. I’m not a hater or anything-I love Apple, and I upgrade every year from the Pro Max to the new Pro Max, using all of the new features. But the truth is, this year, with the phones looking so similar to last year’s models, I feel they should have just called them the 15S instead.
Yeah I agree. And the EU basically got last year’s model with a better battery and new button. To the EU, it’s an even lesser upgrade. I’d likely still upgrade because I’d be coming from an iPhone 11 and iPhone SE (2020), which is really just like an iPhone 8. And that one looking like an iPhone 6.
Apple cries to the US government😭😭: Samsung says we are stealing its innovations in the iPhone 4 The US government: Vetoooo Apple cries to the US government😭😭: Huawei outsells us and will overthrow us The US government: Vetooo Band Huawei This is not fair competition.. Then Apple's sheep come and say that Apple is the best company in the history of the world! Hahaha by stealing Jobs stole the first computer system from another company and made the Mac ---------- I think this is the American culture They are used to taking everything by bullying Any country that has oil, gold or any natural minerals The American government: It's time for freedom for you guys
ikr? Or in other words this video only makes sense if AI is the only thing you need and you need it ABSOLUTELY RIGHT NOW or you'll lose your job or something. In other words this video makes no sense because that's not 99.9999% of people.
And by the time all of the features are available, we'll be a month or two away from the iPhone 17, so we might as well wait an extra year to upgrade. Besides, we can get alternatives to Apple Intelligence if we have an iPhone that doesn't support the Apple AI. With iOS 18, I've set a new control in Control Center to open up Google Lens, an alternative to the new Visual Intelligence. For the Writing Tools, I use the Microsoft Copilot keyboard to help revise my writing. Because there are only so much Apple Intelligence can offer in the next few months, it's better for your wallet if you use the alternatives to Apple Intelligence. Renovate your current iPhone that is working pretty well to have these great Apple Intelligence alternatives and save your money, because the iPhone 16 is the same as previous generations if we ignore the whole Apple Intelligence thing.
@@oldman713relax bro, i'm an iphone user, and can buy 40 of it right now, and i still don't buy it because it's still not worth the upgrade from 13 pro max
I would rather have a 120hz display over some stupid AI. And the cool part is, they could have added that specific feature with NO WAIT TIME. But no instead they put the money in AI that you are FORCED TO WAIT FOR.....for a feature nobody asked for or was wanting in the first place. Talk about missing the mark and giving us something we never wanted but will have to wait for anyway. That is such an other company move but now it's Apple doing this kind of move. Weird times.
@@maximilianvanschoor3725Ya, I like the idea of the new AI. Honestly, it's gonna make things easier, it seems. I hate that we have to wait for the full feature.
For me couldn’t care about the difference between 60hz and 120hz apps close and scrolls good enough for me iphone 14 i wanna get a pro model of a 15 or 16 when my upgrade which ever one can afford at the time because of battery and and need more then 800 nit brightness
What's more crazy is that AI is software based, really no different from a search engine that still relies on another search engine (Google) it's like Siri but she finally got an true upgrade and the fact that it's not ready when the new phones release just honestly goes to show how lazy Apple's research & development software team is becoming. Honestly I truly believe from here on out Apple's marketing strategy will hinge on false promises in the future.
@@Young_Dab true bro all apple intelligence features right now is already available for a long time with some apps that can be found already on App Store; I better install chatgpt app still 😂
I knew he would make a video like this they glaze up the phone all year long make you buy it then immediately make a video about its flaws when it releases
@@sonixuggh5782 there would be a £100/$100 increase in price if that happened, but that’s only because Apple sells 256gb models for £/$100 more than the 128gb models
I’m no blind iPhone loyalist, I enjoy my iPhone and my AirPod pros are amazing, now that’s out the way, I’ll say this. There is nothing wrong with delaying a release of something until it’s absolutely ready. I’d have that over early release which doesn’t work properly any day of the week. If you want the iPhone 16, you’re not losing anything you’re just being held back until everything’s perfect. It’s the Apple way. Honestly yes, it is weird and annoying but it’s not this huge issue that’s going to make the phone pointless.
It’s kind of not the apple way… I mean, as the video shows, they held off releasing the iPhone 4S because Siri wouldn’t be available. Apple holds back putting things out until it’s ready. I really know how it’ll play out long term, but watching the presentation it really just struck me how we’ve been hearing about this AI stuff-it finally gets announced. We know it’s gonna be for the newest iPhone. The new iPhone will release… and it still won’t have AI. And even when it does… it won’t be all the features. It just reminds me of something other tech companies would do. Or like when video game developers release a game and promise to deliver later on things they promised in the previews. Halo Infinite is a prime example of this. (Sorry. I know this isn’t about video games, but it just reminded me their fiasco 😅).
I agree. They also have to do this over various M chip devices like MacBook, iPad pros, and the iPhone 16. However, I’m a blind Apple loyalist and will buy more Apple stuff this year.
They had a whole year. It’s a 3 trillion dollar company with the best engineers available at their disposal. If they couldn’t do it in a year, they shouldn’t announce it.
Is it not weird that they try to sell products that they can't sell? I live in the Netherlands (EU). When I was curious about the iPhone the Dutch website pointed me to this launch event for the new products. I see this feature that Apple in the Netherlands is selling me, but wait, we will never get that feature. Is that not weird? It certainly is misleading. Sure, they don't even mention this feature on the Dutch website but they did point to the American introduction video on the Dutch website. I think a lot of EU citizens don't know that they don't get this feature. The product was presented with this feature on the Dutch website. Nowhere in the video did they say that we don't get this feature ever.
It gets worse when you go to the Apple website and select any country in the EU and see that Apple Intelligence is not mentioned or advertised anywhere at all on iPhone 16!! So it doesn’t look like it will be available…… ever…..
Buying a phone and then getting features months later means we are using the phone for around 7 months before a new phone launches. the money is not spent for 12 months but for 7 months. It's more expensive! Are people started accepting these norms?
What’s worst is, a lot of those features could very well get cancelled. Like you know what hardware you’re getting when you buy the phone. But for software, if they hit a hurdle, features can get cancelled. Especially considering those features are relying on an outside company. Even more is, AI is on shaky ground. There’s a lot of pushback to AI. Legislation could come out to stop it.
@@BreinGames This is very true. It’s happened before. They have misled people in the past. I am hesitant to buy it for that reason. And if all the AI features don’t come out until 2025, then why not just wait and see what the iPhone 17 Pro brings?
Nobody would be successful in a lawsuit against this topic. The timeline for theses releases are available in the fine print on their website. Also, none of these AI services are essential for the phone’s usage so no judge would see a compelling reason to accept a complaint.
So long as apple delivers on their “Apple Intelligence” they can’t be sued. They have two performance obligations here, the hardware and the software, given their marketing of AI features being key to the phone. So long as they don’t overstate their income and allocate revenue to the release of key software that is promised, they are not breaking law. If they led everyone to believe these features are available upon release, then people could sue.
This isn’t the first time Apple has done this. They announced Deep Fusion as a feature of the iPhone 11 series at the iPhone 11 event in 2019. The feature wasn’t made available until iOS 13.2 in October 2019.
Had we not been teased with AI everyone would be satisfied with the 16 line up. We got some really nice upgrades without a price hike. I call that a win
@@freecivweb4160"Never buy a new product today with the promise of new software tomorrow." If you've pre-ordered a new iPhone 16 today just for Apple Intelligence, I would like to share my condolences. Best of luck in your lawsuit against Apple.
@@southernfried19 i mean bro if the guy is financially capable why not😂, it might be overpriced for the tech but the man can afford it, but i do agree they are overpriced
I have the opposite issue, I’m straight to the point and struggle to make them a socially acceptable length, as my emails are usually 1-2 sentences long
As a developer, Apple Intelligence is a massive undertaking in terms of rollout. Many have to realize that there is so much coding and testing involved so it takes time. I rather have them take their time and get it right rather than rush. I assume delivery of features will speed up once everything is stable.
100% agree, but the issue lies in the fact they’re using Apple Intelligence as a huge selling piece yet it can’t even be used. Seems they need a boost in short term revenue.
I’m upgrading to the 16 Pro Max and couldn’t care less about the AI delay. I will keep my 13 for a dedicated camera in my studio. One of the main reasons why I haven’t started recording YT videos yet - it’s a pain in the arse to have to keep setting it up each time. Not gonna lie, I’m kinda stoked!
They failed at this event in that they had nothing new to sell. If they did you can damn well believe they would have sold it. I have an iPhone 11 and I don’t feel very compelled to upgrade.
4:46 “I love the way it feels in the hand” its the same shape that they’ve had since the iPhone 12 💀 and the vertical camera layout just looks like a swelled up version of the iPhone X
"It's going to end up feeling like an iPhone 17 feature that Apple sold us a year early" You nailed it with this statement. I'll bet money that Apple Intelligence was supposed to be an iOS 19 / iPhone 17 feature but because of strong sentiment that Apple's behind on AI, they pushed the timeline of Apple Intelligence up by a year, hence the year-long rollout.
Google learned from their mistakes with the P9P announcement. They specifically stated their features would be available at release after last year's fiasco with zoom enhance.
You know what the REAL ISSUE IS? As long as we customers keep buying the new products, Apple knows they get away with EVERYTHING. Even with unfinished products like the new iPhone 16 Line-up and something so RIDICULOUS LIKE THE 16 plus with STILL 60 HERTZ and 128GB for 1099€. Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
This is NOT the first time that Apple has promoted a major feature without shipping it right away. Literally, Siri. Which is a staple to everyone iPhone model now.
Lol I just made my pre-order iPhone 16 pro max, I don’t care about its whistles and bells I just need a cell phone that works. I like iPhones so whistles and bells doesn’t bother me. It comes with a better camera and battery life and that helps and it’s all good . I am easy like Sunday morning !!😂😂😂😂
Im not saying the phone shouldn't have 120hz display, all im saying is its really doesn't make a big difference and most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. People acting like this is a huge deal probably would even notice if there phone was operating at 60hz. The lack of other updates as well as delaying AI is what people should really be upset about. Lots of products are now shipping without features that come out later, even cars. We gotta stop being ok with this.
This is exactly why I’m going to hold on to my iPhone 15 Pro Max. All the Apple Intelligence features will eventually be released to my phone, and there are no IPhone 16 specific items being released this year. I’ll be ready for the iPhone 17 Pro Max for next year. I will be getting a new Apple Watch this year though.
I preordered 16 pro today, I don’t understand why Apple is struggling to roll out the Apple intelligence features they promised with all the engineers they have working for them aswell as working with OpenAI, it’s so baffling
I mean, think of it this way, tasks like real-time voice recognition or custom image generation involve much more data and complexity than simple Siri requests, leading to higher load per user. They need to thoroughly stress-test their servers before rolling it out and expanding gradually. Especially since millions will buy these devices, and a sudden jump in users hitting the server could take it offline, which would cause more worry investors about their quality and competency. They are taking a "better safe than sorry" approach.
@@12q8 we don’t know that though, for all we know, they might not even have a minimum viable product for half of these features, and there’s already existing API’s and frameworks for a lot of the features you mentioned. It’s just hard to imagine this delay is purely because of a scaling issue.
Sam, Michael Fisher, Mr. Mobile did an interview with Apple in his video. Just before the 11min mark, he asks about why they launched an iPhone without all the features. It’s a good q&a session in his vid.
Your being a bit dramatic 😂. The iPhone 16 exclusive feature is the camera controls button. Every year Apple trickles out features in October /November that weren’t released at launch. Just think of ai as the journal app or Freeform app.
Thanks for the update Sam. I will wait before I buy an iPhone 16, if I buy one at all. My 11 Pro Max is going strong so I might wait for the 17 Pro Max.
I don’t understand how people need to get a new iPhone every year. That’s why apple don’t bring big improvements. Becouse its fanboys buy their products anyway, improved or not I read some comments like “I keep my 15 Pro, it’s still running ok”. WOW bro, that’s crazy. No way a 1000$ phone from last year is still performing good..
When I’m at work in the warehouse on RU-vid, I tried to tell Siri to “search a video by creator”, or “go back 10 seconds” or “pause video” .. etc. and I realized Siri/Apple isn’t smart enough to do this or it’s not integrated yet. I think we should all skip the 16 this year and wait for the 17 pro/max.
The one BIG upgrade is the A18, a two generational jump that equals an M1 in multi-core and OUTPERFORMS it in single-core. It does this while using LESS battery power, YET having more battery storage.
Just preordered two new iPhones 16 pros (upgrading from an 11pro and 13pro) and also getting a silver & jet black series 10 watch cause of tmobile promos: overall I think tech reviewers often forget people arent upgrading year in and year out and typically hold onto their phones for a few generations since apple has been pretty consistent with software upgrades. So while everyone saying not to buy an iphone with the promise of a software upgrade they fail to recognize the track record of apple. I could have upgraded last year from the 13 pro but it just made no sense but going from a 13pro to 16pro is a significant upgrade people are failing to recognize.
Thank you for saying this because I am so tired of videos saying BEFORE YOU BUY THIS… it’s a broken record every year… I am coming from a 13 pro too and I simply just want an upgraded version… I don’t care about the “fun” features that are promised like Apple Intelligence and the capture button… I just want a new phone that is the latest model and I think that perspective goes unnoticed
@@MoviesWithMia YUP. Tech reviewers are in their own echo chambers. They fail to realize that it gives them a bad look by it essentially being their opinion instead of just keeping it about the specs and such. Like if you wanna get more viewers and people like us reengaged do comparison videos with the newest and a couple generations of “best sellers” or something and I guarantee it would get people to start interacting again .
I think the point is that if you do want the AI feature and don't pay attention you will pay and then be disappointed. Plus not everybody is Apple or nothing so if you want AI and need a phone this will help you decide if you need to jump ship to Android.
I have the iPhone 14 and normally replace my iPhone every 2 years but Im skipping doing it this year as I was underwhelmed, and frankly disappointed; I felt I was watching the rollout of an iPhone that they should have delayed until all the software was ready. Let's see what happens next year! ☹
I think you made the right decision as upgrading from a 14 to the 16 wouldn’t be a major change… I think a good rule of thumb would be to exchange your phone every 3-4 years instead of 2… I used to switch out to a new phone every two years, but I have found that waiting a couple years more makes for a much more efficient upgrade! With that being said.. I am switching to the 16 pro max from the 13 pro max, because I think it’s time for a change 😁
I dont use an iPhone, but I'm planning on getting a macbook, so I was planning on getting the iPhone 16 pro at some point. But I think because of the delays of software going into next year, I will wait for the 17 series, hopefully they will iron out the software by then
Hmmm i mean wait if youd like but i dont see anything wrong getting the 16 pro. I upgraded every two years and im pleased With usb c, larger battery, also a better 5g modem.
The "answer" seems simple to me. Don't buy one until all the features that matter to you have shipped and are working properly. I don't need a new phone just to show people that I have the latest phone.
All the AI summarizations for notifications, emails and texts already show up on Apple Watch. But for new Siri, I’m not sure if even S9 or S10 are powerful enough.
Where I'm confused is that I bought the iPhone 15 Pro because they claimed I could record spatial video on it....but now if you go to the apple store app, spatial video is only available on the iPhone 16 Pro...what happened to the original promise in the iPhone 15 pro? Thanks for all of your help! 📱
A) It's also coming to iPhone 15 pro/pro max, and B) the reason for the delay is. they are afraid to turn Apple Intelligence on. Very. Afraid. Refer to T3: Rise of the Machines.
i'm super excited for genmoji. wanted to upgrade to the 16 plus, but the 60hz screen is a turnoff. will be keeping my 14 pro max for at least another year and hopefully upgrade to the 17 plus.
Sounds like a “new iPhone every year”-class complaint. Some folks keep an iPhone for more than a year. And not all of us buy the newest iPhone on Release Day. So by the time most people buy, AI will be enabled. And a short period into the product’s lifespan, the other features will arrive. So this is an influencer-level temporary annoyance, not likely to resonate in the near future.
I feel like the video is a bit too dramatic this time. I think it's important to remember that just because Apple's AI won't be available on the phone from the start doesn't mean it won't be there eventually. They were quite clear about the rollout timeline, and it's understandable that approval times vary by country. Some features may not be available in certain regions due to restrictions and requirements, like the required shutter sound in Japan and application restrictions in China in the past. The event was meant to showcase the hardware and the software capabilities, not necessarily the features straight out of the box. In my opinion, if someone buys a product without taking the time to learn the basics about it, that's more of a consumer issue than an Apple issue. Some may think it shouldn't have been advertised at all, but hey, October is just around the corner. If you're unsure about the release, maybe waiting a few weeks and seeing how things unfold could be a good idea. Also, considering that the iPhone 16 has minimal hardware upgrades, it might not be a bad idea to wait for the iPhone 17, which could have even better hardware updates. I guess the only people who might be upset are those who use iPhones as status symbols and upgrade every year regardless of the features.
but didn't they say that about every update after the 12 ? like 13 had minimal change from 12 and 14 had minimal change from 13 and 15 had minimal change from 14 and 16 had minimal change from 15 and every time they say the next one is gonna have a bigger update
Apple doesn't make promises in advance, but sometimes Apple RU-vidrs and leakers do. They come up with exciting and groundbreaking theories that can be worded as if they are certain its coming, and the community gets really hyped about them. Then are met with disappointment and anger towards Apple when the actual updates often turn out to be more minor than the leakers told them. Nevertheless, a major Siri overhaul is still a significant improvement from its current state and I’m glad they are adding more tactile hardware. I feel like this years updates were medical and accessibility focused so the general population might not be as excited about them. This is all my opinion ofc!
@@NomadicSimsI really love your perspective! And I agree with you wholeheartedly! For myself, I simply just want an upgrade and have no problem waiting for Apple Intelligence! I am also of the group that keeps my phone for at least 2-3 generations of Apple phones… so it is a bit irritating when people say to not buy the current iPhone and wait for the next.. for some that is definitely an option, but for people like me… as long as the phone works, I am gonna buy it 😂 but thank you for sharing this!
@@MoviesWithMia I totally get that! I'm rocking a 13 Pro Max still and will probably keep it unless my phone service provider offers an upgrade haha I just don't need the minute changes each year and it makes the upgrade a few years later feel even more special!
