@@Danyello_0 overpriced rubbish for tacticool scam victims. Bet your expensive camo won't save you from a grenade drone flown by a socks and sandals wearing operator
@@oliverlane9716 I do love a bit of olive green and coyote brown to be honest, much better than reds and blues. Though I guess blending in wouldn't matter in a massive army on army confrontation of the 1800s or before
@@christianweibrecht6555 Multicams decent, but not great. Good for global armies like 1940s Britain and its tan uniforms, and now 2020s Britain with its tan mtp uniforms. Wouldn't suit most countries better than its current camos
You people do realize that patterns are suppose to be FUNCTIONAL, they don’t design them for "looking cool" but I don’t expect anything less from you internet soldiers
@@G36C-556 multicam isn't arid, it works surprising well in woodland environments. You wouldn't realize this if all you do is look at pictures of it though
some day in the future people like you will be clinging to multicam because it has "soul" or something. This exact same thing has already happened with M81
@@jamesdc9595 When multicam came out most people said that M81 sucks mainly because it has black in it. Now multicam doesn't have the cool factor anymore and other patterns have become retro and therefore cool again.
Yeah but Irish DPM is awful looking, and most gucci kit comes in multicam already. For a very small army it makes sense, I wouldn't be surprised if the AUG were replaced by hk416 in the next few years either.
They already have to do that in ukraine and they have different camo patterns. Midas well use the most effective one if that's the case even if everyone else is.
They do. The 3CY uses yellow, green or blue tape in the arms and helmet at least, and the ruzzians use bandages arranged according to the code of the day; one day they may wear a bandage tied in the left leg and right arm, the next day it may be right leg and left arm, etc. But it seems to me that they discontinued doing this, possibly because of a shortage of bandages, disorganisation, or even sheer indifference and exhaustion.
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@@TheJewishAzovMemberit’s not necessarily a technology/advanced vs traditional camo issue, CADPAT showed us that. It’s that designers and whoever is in charge of procurement don’t understand that 1. camouflages just can’t work for a very wide range of environments, and 2. contrast between colours is very important if you don’t want to look like a greyish blob at distance. It seems like the meta for making camouflage patterns is make it digital and look tacticool for out of touch generals and call it a day.
@@spingebill8551 I mean canada has two versions of their CADPAT, Woodland and arid. It's safe to assume countries that plan to use their militaries in different regions would have them as well. MARPAT was made after the marines took a interest in CADPAT.
@@TheJewishAzovMember and considering Canada already had a camo for winter conditions, arid (for prairies and random middle eastern shitholes) and woodland (for the rest of Canada because forests tend to have the same colours) is all they really needed. What I’m talking about is camo patterns like UCP and Multicam that supposedly camouflages you in arid and woodland, but almost if not always never actually working. Turns out if you try to use colours that are common in both environments, you get a narrower range of paler colours. In effect, at best get a kinda mediocre camo for both environments (and maybe something that can work alright for a rarer in-between?), at worse you get a UCP situation. There isn’t and never will be a passive camouflage that works good in both bright, warm coloured arid environments, and average-dark, green and brown coloured woodland environments. I think Multicam is the best we got, and to its credit it’s pretty adaptable, however it’s not as good in an actual woodland environment as a dedicated woodland camo.
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The irish military is purely defensive. Is there really a need for multicam? Its not like theyre going to introduce q navy capable of expeditionary fighting or long range strategic bombers.
As some other sources state too, it will be a "new" Multicam pattern especially designed for the Irish Defense Forces. The Irish Times wrote:" The organisation is in the process of designing a specific camouflage pattern known as the Irish Transitional Multi-Cam Pattern, which will be applied to the uniforms. The pattern is being designed for the Defence Forces by US company Crye Precision."
Gonna look really dumb to wear an arid dominant pattern in an extremely wet and green country. Irish DPM is a great pattern, just update the uniform cut and materials, no need to replace the camo pattern.
Can't agree more; multicam seems to not quite camouflage soldiers in all environments, DPM is fantastic in temperate zones. They used to issue clothing appropriate to your environment. I guess it's a money saving thing.
The problem is Ireland is too wet and green for multicam. Like it'll work fine on UN deployments but as the patterns for our domestic uniform is gonna be useless outside of the 2 weeks of summer we get in June
@@ramblingrenegade6346 Under what circumstances are the Irish ever likely to fight on home ground? If Ireland was invaded, the British would surely step in.
@@Tourist1967 with that logic we may as well do away with the whole Defence Forces thing altogether. But to answer, training and exercises are still conducted in Ireland, there have been multiple instances when they were deployed as a security force, and it's going to look weird when a bunch of lads in British-style uniforms show up at the next national emergency, definitely gonna lead to a lot of confusion. There's more to it than straight up fighting
As I said, the Irish army contributes quite a lot to the UN. But the country dioesn't have an air force worth speaking of or much of a navy. Britain fills the gaps there. The British climate is not much different from Ireland and troops are deployed in the UK far more often than they are in Ireland. The combat uniform is not a problem there.
@@user-ze8yy8jg1fnear your waters yes, not in them. It's not a crime for a navy to hold a drill in international waters. If it was, China's fleet would be at the bottom of the water after holding its drills near Taiwan. Besides, the royal navy was keeping tabs on them the entire time, tracking their every move. With the Russian navy and their performance in Ukraine, they were never going to be a threat to begin with
Love your RU-vid channel keep it up I love all forms of camouflage it's awesome love it . Oh yeah if you want to get crazy with conspiracies we could say that all the militaries are switching to multicam because there's going to be a one world government so when all the military switched to be in 1 military they all look like
The Sun really never sets on the Crye Empire. On the other hand, it’s inevitable. Multicam and aftermarket Multicam products are so widespread that is significantly more streamlined than anything else in the world. You can find exactly what you need already produced in high numbers and good quality, and allow your soldiers to have almost unlimited access to aftermarket equipment and subcontracts with ease.
At some point the world will have to switch back to bright colored uniforms. The British will become redcoats again and warfare will just look like Team Fortress 2
Im an irish man i tryed to join the irish army i have 22 convictions for drivering offences so they said i wasnt good enough so i joined the english army i have being in places iv never seen irish army needs
Call me old fashioned, but isn't camouflage supposed to help you blend into the background? What background will future wars be against? 8 bit Nintendo games?
It will be a definitive camo style unique to Ireland. Ireland has always been careful to have a distinctive combat uniform, so that Irish soldiers are not mistaken for any NATO army ,in particular the USA.
@@buckwheatsghettoghost4927 Like the soldiers in the beginning of the video, Ireland has lent to UN Peacekeeping missions around the globe. So yes, they want to avoid looking like NATO troops, who may be seen as taking sides in various conflicts.
God bless the Irish armed forces to International operations with fully qualified western International armed forces. I hope the problems of recurrent is solves to keeping Ireland 🇮🇪 armed forces maintenance numbers needed to today standards.
@AdmrIl honestly that's the worst part. I could understand it if it worked as a domestic camo, like if they'd taken the colour scheme and adapted it into a multicam pattern, but speaking from experience, multicam just makes you stand out around here unless you're down the bog at the height of summer. I understand part of the idea is to have a more effective camo on our UN deployments to Lebanon and Africa, but if they want to do that so bad I feel like they should issue uniforms for the climate instead of fully replacing our own, distinctly Irish one
Do you know what the US forces nickname for the British force's was during Gulf War 1......The Barrowers because they turned up in theater with sht all kit or kit that worked
This won't happen foe decades Our special forces use multi cam that's it they have been saying this bs since I've been born about changing to multi cam it never happens
Everytime a new camouflage pattern is to be selected, the item that matters the least is the pattern effectiveness. It's just a wonderful time to make big business, bribe and be bribed, press on with your product whatever innefective it may be, and with luck maybe the Grunts will end up much later that expected with something that may or not fit the requirements. Just remember the unimaginable loss of money with the UCP and the fact that the Powers in charge always make everything wrong at first try so that the expense can remain wide open for as long as possible... Camouflaged uniforms are an outrageous source of loss and squandering for the Armed Forces, and no one seems to care.
Nothing good lasts, especially with the multiplague. I hope they at least sell it off to the surplus market instead of destroying it. Shit's just wasteful.
If you know nothing about the story, why comment? Irish DPM has design issues, they're replacing it because it doesn't camouflage you as well as it needs to. Simple as that. The large colour blobs are not as effective as pixelated patterns, and the amount of black used in it catches the eye instantly in a natural setting.
Their camouflage blended quite well with their terrain. I do not know why the UK and Eire have had to adopt a similar multicam to the US at all. Given the Commonwealth's global involvement with the U.S. develop our own camouflage for Desert, Jungle, and Temperate climate, so we look a bit more different to the Yanks. Plus it could be made in India at a cracking good price.
Protected by who And from who? No country wants to invade. Islamic state also do not target us because we don’t take their stuff Uk are the only country that has a problem
About fecking time they updated their camo, I still remember joining the reserve's and seeing a poster faded from sunlight of a dude wearing at the time the Irish DPM pattern holding a aug, well they better get clothes that keeps you warm for a change because the gear they have is kinda garbage for the weather we have that includes 9 months of rain which the DPMs weren't designed to handle as after ten minutes you'd be soaked to your skin, if it wasn't for the obsolete 80s gortex army wet gear I'd say I would have left long ago
I’ve never heard anything good about these camouflages that claim to work in several types of environments. They never break the form of the soldier, and they tend to look an unnatural colour from 15 or so meters away. The reason CADPAT was so successful compared to UCP and other similar all-environment camouflages was because they made CADPAT in forest, arid, etc. and there was acceptable contrast between the different colours of the camouflage. I’m no expert, but my opinion on the new Irish camo is it’s not as bad as the UCP but it looks like it will suffer similar issues.
MTP is just that much more effective in most terrains. DPM is good in woodland and damp areas yes, but as soon as you get anywhere that isn't a Woodland or wet, you stand out like a sore thumb. MTP is great in woodlands and wet areas, but also in a variety of other places as well.
