Why is everyone shitting on marvel? Cuz there are more woman superheroes? I prefer to watch a hot blonde in spandex over Chris Evan in spandex personally. The stories aren't bad either they tie a lot of shit together in the timeline dating back to the fight in New York an even back when cap was "created"
@@thamerkules8081Our problem isn't with the fact that characters have been changed to women or race swapped, it's with the fact that it is only being done to adhere to the politically correct, and the story of the original characters will never be expanded because of this.
The thing about Tony is that, even if someone manages to defeat him, as long as he's alive, he'll come up with a suit that makes sure he will never be defeated by that person again. His every suit upgrade has this exact motivation behind it.
U gotta be kidding. Thor swept the floor with Tony in the first avengers movie, even in endgame he got knock out with one hit of mjolnir. Due to Odin's spell, Jane has the same power as Thor, she'll swept the floor with him too.
@@xunter1875 definitely not. Iron Man actually put up a decent fight against Thor in the first movie, and the hit that knocked him out in Endgame was Mjolnir hit by Stormbreaker. He was hit by Mjolnir several times during his fight with Thor in Avengers 1 without being knocked out, and that was only Mk 6 armor. Meanwhile, Thor had hundreds, if not thousands of years of combat experience, while Jane only had the power without the experience. Also, she had only human biology, while Thor was Asgardian and Cap was a super soldier. In all probability, that would affect her power to a degree. Even if that weren’t the case, Iron Man would definitely stomp.
@@darthgrievous8055 Watch the fight again. Iron Man's greatest accomplish against Thor was being able to move him using all his body, he didn't even make a scratch on him, while Thor was crushing his armor with ease, just by brute force. Asgardian, human or super soldier biology is irrelevant if your able to lift Mjolnir, once u do that you become a copy of Thor with all it's power, strength and endurance (he's above the average Asgardian), that's how Odin's spell works. Also Mjolnir being hit by Stormbreaker means nothing, that's simple physics, the power from that hit came from Thor's strength and Mjolnir's endurance, which Jane possesses both. Stormbreaker didn't add anything lol. The only credit you're comment has is Thor's experience, Jane does not has that, but she wields a thinking version of Mjolnir which's purpose is to protect her, so her lack of experience is compensated with Mjolnir's free will. Tho she did show been able to fight hand to hand with Thor without lacking skill. So, definitely yes. Iron Man has mostly zero chances to defeat her in any scenario.
@@xunter1875 fair enough on the biology part, but that was the least significant factor anyway. Iron Man may not have been doing any real damage to Thor in their fight, but considering Thor’s power and experience, the degree to which Iron Man could match him was impressive all things considered. Even while taking damage to his armor, he didn’t slow down at all and was repeatedly able to knock Thor off his feet. With his new armor, Jane would no longer have that advantage going for her, plus his weaponry is far better than it was when he first fought Thor. You certainly can’t claim that his new weaponry wouldn’t affect Jane if it was capable of knocking back and drawing blood from Thanos. And you can’t say that Mjolnir getting hit by Stormbreaker meant nothing. If it did, then why wouldn’t Thor have just thrown it instead? And like I said, Iron Man takes several hits from Mjolnir during their fight in massively inferior armor without getting knocked out. So why would the hit from Mjolnir hit by Stormbreaker knock him out this time if Stormbreaker wasn’t a factor? None of that makes sense.
@@darthgrievous8055 He didn't match him at all. Watch the fight again, every single hit Tony was able to land on Thor, he recovered immediately, without any injury, while Thor was stomping him. Tony was only delaying his inevitable defeat until Cap showed up, and yes, he was slowing down, it was taking him more time to recover after every hit. Even with his upgrades, Tony never showed being near Thor's level at all. You said it yourself, his biggest feat was to be able to draw a *single drop* of blood out of Thanos, while he was destroying him. Without Strange's intervention, Tony would've died there. That's not a relevant feat at all. What are his odds against someone more powerful, stronger, faster and with more durability than him? At highest he'll give a better fight than he gave against Thor in Avengers, maybe he'll been able to injure her, but affirm he'll stomp her? Go home, bro, you're drunk. And, again, it's simple physics. Stormbreaker can't add power to Mjolnir or vice versa, whatever the reason he threw Mjolnir by hitting it with Stormbreaker is irrelevant, might just be a show off, nothing particular happened after that nor did it was mentioned or explained after that. There's no fact in any Thor, Asgardians or magic appearance in the MCU that proves your point valid, not even in comics. But anyway, even if I give it to you for valid, that would only serve to prove Tony would not get knocked out with one single hit lol, that doesn't give him any chances of victory. How many hits would it take then? 3? 5? 10? The results would be the same, just with a longer battle. Sorry, mate, but there's no argument here, Jane wins.
Hey. It’s Ironwoman. Or ironperson. You don’t want to be imprisoned for 40 years for misgendering someone. Hell, they’ll extradite you to California just for the death penalty. Lol.
@@NightClownsayshi it looks like a really bad movie. I don’t think it will do well. The new Avengers suck and everyone knows they do. The woke crap marketing and crap writers are just that. Same with Snow white. That’s going to be a Disney flop as well.
@@jhonDP3niz Bro the point was never about the characters it was about how the old marvel used to make movies, the old ones were able to move the audience right away, but the recent ones feel just lame written for money
As a woman i find the new 'female' replacements of old heroes but 'better' apparently really cringe. Like, stop. Be yourself. So trying to be someone you're not. You can't live up to these legends. It's like the old cliche of its another version of this character but female trope and I hate it. Like, the only example i can think of that did well with that trope was Danny Phantom but Dani was a clone and much younger and has her own interests that doesn't involve one upping Danny. At this point it's not girl bossing it's girl clowning. Because they are making a mockery of not only of themselves but everyone around them.
@Levas-29 it's unfortunate that the people who are writing or portraying female characters either don't understand women or think women are better than everyone. But the end point is that they are both trying to appeal to the female audience not realising they are offending us instead.
@@facetoface1843 looks like times are changing dcu is getting better movies and maybe shows while mcu is getting very bad and losing a lot of workers and even the main writers/producer
@@babortube610 brotha don't instigate, that isn't what they're saying, It's an observation on how marvel is being forced to make a large quantity of young superheroes to captivate the interest of the younger generation and has to make strong female characters to prove they aren't misogynistic, I believe they are also under pressure to make LGBTQ+ characters, so there's that too.
@@senate2674 I don't hate to break it to you my guy, but this ain't society. Stop pretending it is. This is a group of superheroes, the least powerful of which (Yelena) can probably take down a team of police officers or three or four SWAT agents on her own. And by the way, you might wanna look at Sparta and Ancient Rome. Women of the former didn't fight normally, but were expected to do so if necessary. Women of the latter in all social classes were able to be gladiators.
@@TheEmperorOfViltrumstark is probably like I. Top 10 but not really on the top. He is maybe a 4-6 or maybe lower. Dr doom and reed Richards are smart as heck.
@@CasimenoriStark would cook Vision! And I mean that literally and metaphorically. All it takes is Stark one time to lose to find a plan around something or someone. All he has to know is your abilities, powers, and what you can do to create something to incapacitate someone in his armor. Everyone of his armors in the MCU has always upgraded from a fault in his older armors! And the reason he’d cook Vision is that first Stark can use emp’s to knock Vis unconscious! Secondly, Stark has a built in scrambler in his suit so when Vis tries to phase through him it would fry him. So again, Stark would COOK VISION!!! And man, I wish this were about comics because there wouldn’t even be a competition how bad Ironman would slaughter Vision! Like he’d beat him little to no difficulty whatsoever, but this is MCU though.
@@House.Of.Pain. it’s not even like that. If we put Iron Man into a ring with vision right now. All vision has to do is Laser iron man down. He doesn’t even need to come close to him. Not only would Iron Man’s attacks go right through vision, but even if they did somehow hit him, he’s made of vibranium, it’ll just bounce off. Vision was made by something that Tony made to be smarter than him. Ultron made vision as a body for himself so he most likely thought of everything that would counter iron man. Idk anything about the comics, we’re only going by the Mcu and in the Mcu Iron literally wouldn’t can’t get close to vision.
He would probably hack Iron Hearts suit and destroy it before she has any chance of affecting him. Her suit was originally made from his scrap material.
@@sriramrex3774 More like it's a weird situation where neither would ever be able to defeat the other. Moon Knight does not possess abilities beyond the level of Captain America in most physical regards, disregarding ass pulls like manifesting Khonsu or currently unseen powers, meaning Tony would be able to win basically 90 times out of 100 as long as he isn't mentally impaired from emotions or forced to fight in a heavily contained space. Only problem, what makes Moon Knight so special is that he's at Deadpool's level of survival minus all of Deadpool's weaknesses. He's basically a cockroach. Even if Tony turned the battle site into something resembling ground zero, Moon Knight would keep fighting. So it's not exactly a fight, more like a game of who would give up first.
Is it just me or are all these new avengers just female rip-offs of the old ones? Like why the hell did marvel write off the old ones and replace them with feminism when it's unneeded
I like Kate Bishop in the MCU. True comic book fans will know things need to change. You can’t add new heroes without replacing old heroes, and old heroes change. They get tired. They want to retire. Their personal growth has reached completion or their stories have nowhere more to go. That’s what writing is about.
Kamala’s hard light would be an interesting concept to tony that he would probably want to study to find out how it works thus leading to a suit capable of counteracting the hard light ability so technically she might win the first battle but given enough time he would be able to easily defeat her after taking care of her hard light ability
So Shuri is Back Panther, and Kamala is Mz. Marvel? The quantum bands aren't just hard light. They're cosmic powered. Like kick the snot out of Galactus levels of cosmic powered. If she knew how to use them, she would defeat the whole list of heros presented in this clip at the same time! How they've screwed up everything about Marvel is what's insane to me.
I feel like Moon Knight would have a solid chance. He took on all of The Avengers at their peek in a comment, with some boosting from his gifted Ahnks he was able to steal their abilities, use them for himself, and even control Mjolnier because it’s made of Moon Rock. Maybe the new version created would lose, but the OG Moon Knight is not to be messed with, at least by earth people.
Iron man’s time is over. His reputation is saved in the way he died and I don’t wanna anything to change that. The multiverse is a new thing in the Marvel Universe so I wanna see Tony Stark come back as “Superior Iron Man”. He’s an evil Tony Stark variant.
Corrections New black widow: 1% New hawkeye: 0.1% New Vision: 50% Shuri: 4% Ms Marvel ( The indian one ): 2% She Hulk: 30% Iron Heart: 4% Jane Foster: 50%
@@RealShades7why do you use this as a probability. If it was a fight, no shortcuts or whatsoever. Vision would totally beat ironman. Every time I say "vision will win" this same reply always pops up, "ironman can just shut him down" that's just plain stupid. Tbh tony can't even do that now.
Iron Man has given the strongest fight to literally the strongest marvel characters : Captain America, Bucky, Thor, Hulk and even Thanos. So these new avengers dont stand at even 1%
Moon knight does . He's got excellent durability due to his suit , killer combat skills and way too much experience. Idk if he could defeat ironman but he's definitely give him a tough fight .
@@ScarletAnimeEditor he is damn strong , that's his main power . Being the avatar of khonshu gives him extra strength , durability , advantage and combat skills . But iron man is smarter , he would find a way to subdue moon knight . But they would give each other tough fight . Brain always gives you an upper hand over power , iron man proved that by outsmarting thanos . Even thor let thanos escape because of his foolishness (he should've gone for the head) . Therefore , iron man would win and if by any chance he doesn't then he would make sure he never looses again to the same person .
@@neelashreechakrabortyx1948 When i said "Strong" i meant and included all durability, battle experience, Battle iq, combat skills,Weapons,etc.but still Iron man would win... Moon knight def not winning because he lacks Battle iq and experience and combat skills. and if Moon knight would Have battle iq Iron man would still win considering his battle experience And fyi Iron man Has the upper hand/advantage on combat skills considering how much hes learned from his past fight But yeah they would have a good fight...
@@ScarletAnimeEditor yeah that's what i said ...when i said smarter , i also meant battle iq . If it was hand to hand combat then moon knight would win but with suit iron man would win .
@@XTRMXPRTKILR they forgot his identity that he is Peter, but they didn't forgot that spiderman is in avengers, so still he is the new leader but with unknown identity
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@@XTRMXPRTKILR that's Bucky diversion.... otherwise Ironman wolud kill him in one blast...but he didn't want to kill or beat captain...his only target was Bucky....so it was not a real 1v 1 fight... it's 1v2...the real winner in comics also Ironman....
Why are there 90% women avengers now? Dude that sucks , bring up men they are the fit roles for avengers Dugh , producers coming up with she hulk, some female Thor it’s total shit dude
