Is a jump stop a traveling violation or not? What about the step back? Let's break it down and see.

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This is Rule Review covering plays involving traveling, specifically talking about the jump stop and step back move. This video is dedicated to educating basketball officials on recognizing how to identify the jump stop and step back properly. Watching actual videos of plays involving traveling, along with some basic instruction explaining each rule, helps officials learn faster and retain rule information better. We can all learn together by continually discussing the rules as they are written in the NFHS rules book and viewing actual high school basketball games reinforces that learning.
Because traveling can be a complicated concept it is often misunderstood, especially when it comes to the jump stop and step back. Instead of guessing on traveling plays and grouping all similar looking plays into the same category, it is important we, as officials, understand all the components that go into what makes a jump stop move legal or not. Was the player moving or dribbling? At what point did they stop and hold the ball? This is what we will be reviewing in this segment of Rule Review. All video clips we reference in this segment on traveling come from high school games and focus solely on the NFHS high school rules book.
Video #1
- A drive to the basket made by a dribbling player who jumps high into the air with the ball and comes back to the floor before shooting. This play was allowed to continue by the officials. Watch to find out why.
Video #2
- Another move down the lane with a jump stop performed by the player. This play looks the same as the first, but it is NOT. Should this have been a traveling violation?
Video #3
- A jump stop play was called a traveling violation but when did the player catch and hold the ball? This is important to know to determine pivot status.
Video #4
- A step back move was correctly made by this player but how do we know? When you break down a step back move, it is simply a jump stop, backwards.
Video #5
- Another step back but this one was called a traveling violation. Were they different or was the officials incorrect? Watch to find out.
Watching video clips is a good way to stay connected to the skill of officiating basketball but true education and learning can more effectively be attained when each video is annotated with diagrams and shading to point out key teaching points.
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@FrankChengsChannel 9 месяцев назад

3:46 According to the FIBA rule 2022, I dont think it is a travel. For what I saw, the player catched the ball with his left foot on court, which is step 0, and he used step 0 to jump off, then land with his both feet. This situation meets the description of the rule below Rule 25.2.1 A player who catches the ball while he/she is progressing, or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing, or shooting the ball: -If the player who comes to a stop on his/her first step has both feet on the court or they touch the court simutaneously, he/she may pivot using either foot as his/her pivot foot. If he/she then jumps with both feet, no foot may return to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s). So it is not a travel. The case @7:50 is similar. The player catched the ball with his right foot on the court, which is step 0, then stopped with left foot on the court as step 1, also as the pivot foot. So it is free for him to move his right foot if he kept his pivot at the same position on the court. Even thought you thought aht the step 0 is a jump, this scenario is also the same as 3:46. This is a clear move.

@OfficialsInstitute 9 месяцев назад

This is an interpretation on the NFHS rules. They are different from FIBA as they do not have a zero step. Thanks for watching.

@ShareefusMaximus Месяц назад

If I and my 3 friends have dinner in your restaurant make sure you don't count the 0 dinner. That's 0-1-2 dinners. Okay?

@xxiv168 29 дней назад

@@ShareefusMaximus😂

@raisingachampion 2 года назад

Extremely helpful. The NFHS RU-vid video and printed guideline did not mention the AIRBORNE CATCH which has been creating a huge amount of confusion in my locality! It only made sense that jabs and pivots after an airborne catch are LEGAL since no pivot foot has been established!

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Glad you found it helpful

@shoefit2stayfit920 2 года назад

Beautiful explanation 👌

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Glad you think so!

@Lstead15 3 года назад

good video....never thought of equating a step back with a jump stop, but will from now on....

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

Thanks for watching.

@ericmorton2274 3 года назад

Thanks for posting this. This play gets a lot of discussion on internet forums. The third play is where it gets tricky. Having to judge where the feet are in real time when the dribble ends is the cause of much of the controversy about this play. The difference between your second and third example illustrates this. In play two, the dribble ends with the jump foot on the floor, while play three has both feet in the air as you showed. In real time, it's not fair to have officials forced to parse judgement like this. Because of this, I call this play a violation. If a coach complains, "Coach, in my judgement, the dribble ended with the foot on the floor." Calling this play differently each time causes inconsistency, which I find coaches despise the most. The other factors with this play is that it is legal in the NBA, where players see it on TV, and FIBA. Whereas it's illegal in NCAA and NFHS. In NCAA games, it's especially inconsistently called. At the NFHS level at least, I wish that the blanket interpretation from that organization would be to consider it a travel in all cases. The players would adjust and the play would be called consistently.

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

Yes, this play can be different by inches sometimes and very hard to determine during live play.

@ragzy02 2 года назад

Or we can expand the gather step rule and reward kids who actually work on their skill and footwork. Last night we saw SGA here in OKC hit a buzzer beater step back three to win that the NFHS seems by rule a travel but if you simply land both feet simultaneously it doesn’t, dumb. Let’s evolve.

@runegeezy Год назад

It is not difficult at all to differentiate. I was born in 1984. I'm 38 years old now going on 39 this summer. I've been playing basketball since the early 90s. I played CYO ball my entire youth since 1993. Went to summer camps every summer at St. Mary's. Played high school ball. Then in 2002 I started referreeing and coaching when I was 18. The rules were ENGRAINED into me at a very young age and instilled throughout a lifetime of hooping in legitimate organizations. You play so many games, have so many practices, watch so many games, it becomes second nature. You don't even have to think about it. I can quickly identify when someone ends their dribble and begins to gather or collect the ball. I can quickly identify which foot is the pivot foot without even thinking about it. You see so many plays that they all look a certain way the way a player moves. And you know how a player moves because you've played so many games. So when something looks funny it's because it is funny. The game doesn't change. There's nothing new under the sun. That quick switch of the feet and extra side step or step back looks funny, it feels funny, because it IS funny. It's a travel. There is no reason to change the rules. Players just have to be held to the standard of the rules by their coaches, by the refs, by leagues and organizations, and they'll play the right way. You let them get away with funny stuff and they'll always want to get away with more. You call them on it consistently and they'll learn to play right or they won't play. Coach will take them out if they don't have the ability to execute the fundamentals properly. The NBA is ruining the game. We need to continue to stay true to the game and play the right way and stop trying to change everything. That's weak.

@ttrtristan42 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@OfficialsInstitute 10 месяцев назад

You’re welcome

@michaelj529 3 года назад

Very helpful

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

Glad it helped

@klewis564 3 года назад

That airborne catch looks like a walk to me .. def gotta send to my guys

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

Traveling plays are hard to rule on because ruling on the status of quick moving feet in real time is not easy.

@marchauge4115 3 месяца назад

looks like a travel before the dribble and subsequent airborne catch.

@vortexbadmintondavao6195 2 года назад

more of these please

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Thanks for watching.

@dickeymono Год назад

Thank you so much!! Everyone is doing the James Harden step back, not knowing that the NBA has adjusted the rules (as a business) to conform to this trend. I herd that college is about to legalize the harden step back too. Originally the backwards hop step jump shot..was done at mid range. It's hard to execute that from 3 point range. So the lazy way has now been found.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

We’ll see. It won’t change in high school anytime soon, I don’t think.

@livinproof718 Год назад

The hostep been a rule

@Coolruiz19 5 месяцев назад

Thank you

@OfficialsInstitute 5 месяцев назад

You're welcome

@eidrefysug 2 года назад

Hi josh im ferdz Dolojan from philippines im watching your uploads videos regularly

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

This is awesome that we are reaching all the way to the Philippines.

@maneauleau478 Год назад

3rd example looks like the traveling happens before the dribble? Thanks for this useful video!

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Possible, but really hard to tell in real time. It would be a tough sell since the player seemed to begin a dribble immediately after catching the ball. Thanks for the comment.

@thomasplatteborze7296 Год назад

Great Job The #1 Key Is To KNOW the PIVOT FOOT & When The Player Catches The Ball ! Tom 50th Year Reffing 😊

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Wow! 50 years is amazing. Congratulations.

@Oblisk 2 года назад

Not mentioned in the video, but catching the ball airbourne can be applied to the step back as well. If you catch it mid air after taking that step back, you can land un-simultaneously. Or if you caught it airbourne after the step back and landed simultaneously, you could still establish a pivot foot afterwards. For lower levels of ball, just be prepared to get called for travels since some of these refs be old schooled still and not know the difference.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Yes. The same "jump stop" principles apply. Thanks for watching.

@runegeezy Год назад

Heeeeeeellllllla wrong. The jump stop rules apply to all jump stops. You can't pivot after a jump stop. A step back IS a jump stop. You also have to land on two feet from a jump stop. So when you are taking someone off the dribble and you start your gather, which ever foot is on the ground as you start your jump is your pivot foot. You must land with two feet and then you have to shoot or pass. You can't pivot after the gather and jump stop. You can't slide any feet. A jump stop has to be a firm two foot landing and complete stop. That's why it's called a jump STOP. It's not the refs that don't know the rules. It's you. You don't know the rules. Most NBA step backs are illegal traveling violations. And it all started with James Harden yeeeeears ago. The NBA doesn't call it, but the NBa is rigged. So now all kinds of NBA players do it to get an unfair advantage. And because so many people see it in NBA games they assume it's legal and do it when they play. So now hella people are traveling everyday and go crazy when someone that actually knows the game of basketball calls them on it.

@tkschrome487 11 месяцев назад

@@runegeezycope some more buddy. People wanna see offensive dominant ball and the nba has the right to bend their rules for entertainment and balance

@runegeezy 11 месяцев назад

@tkschrome487 the NBA doesn't have the right to bend the rules when they are making BILLIONS of dollars every year in public markets off arenas that are largely funded with public tax dollars. We pay for these buildings for them to make a killing and then they cheat teams out of wins by deciding when they want to call the games correctly and who they want to benefit. It is highly illegal

@valentonne185 9 месяцев назад

Buena acotación

@josengoran8345 2 года назад

hello - thanks you for the contribution - does all the explanations based on FIBA rules ?

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

These rules are based on the NFHS rules. For FIBA compliance you would need to check with your local rules interpreters. Thanks for watching.

@kimberlynielson2019 3 года назад

The last video of the back step was super informative. I think I see that play more than I think. Not sure I am getting that travel call right.

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

Traveling is hard and the kids being so fast makes is harder.

@YanixOpawPalermo 2 года назад

if the player catch or hold the ball after the step, that is not a travel...

@FHtmOfficial 2 года назад

@@YanixOpawPalermo That's what i would say !

@tkschrome487 11 месяцев назад

Last clip was not a travel. I’d get ejected if it was called multiple times. Gather step does not count doesn’t matter what way you word it

@LB23KB24 10 месяцев назад

Isn't last step back is same as 1,2 drive in? Same 2 steps only its backwards?@@OfficialsInstitute

@cloudriderwu 2 года назад

Thank you for this great video and explanation. On the last play, it was because of the small hop that made it a jump stop rule, right? If instead of the hop, he took a step back, and then another, it would fall under the 2 steps after dribble, right? Looked really close between a hop versus a step to me.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Glad it helped! These plays are hard to discern and many of the differences between legal and illegal can be very close. Thanks for wathing.

@runegeezy Год назад

Everytime you stop your dribble you have to come to a complete stop. You can't stop dribbling and then take steps. So when a ball handler, such as the one in the third video, comes to a stop, he has to either completely stop or he can take one jump and stop. Of course he's going to try to create some separation between himself and the defender so he chooses to jump stop. The jump stop rule requires that the foot on the floor when he stops his dribble is his pivot foot, and he can take one jump from that pivot and land in a complete stop with both feet simultaneously and then neither of those two feet can move following the stop. So if you go back to the video you can see that he ends his dribble with his left foot down and jumps forward to his right foot and then takes a second jump backwards from his right foot and lands on the left foot and then the right follows landing after the left foot. He traveled twice on this play. His first travel was when he jumped from his left foot to his right foot and didn't land with two feet. And then he traveled again when he took a second jump from his right foot backwards to the left foot and didn't land with two feet. You get one jump, not two. And you must land with two feet simultaneously.

@sabongpinamungajan Год назад

thank.u sir😍

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Keep watching

@lpbreeze1415 Год назад

great video. the giant inflatable mascot at the 8 minute mark threw me off :)

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Lol

@vortexbadmintondavao6195 2 года назад

thanks for sharing im doing referee on our place

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

You’re welcome.

@lancerubel9453 Год назад

Great video, so helpful. One question though: in the 2nd video after the jump stop is it considered a travel as soon as he lifts one (either) foot in the air (which would imply that the only option would be to go up with both feet like what was done in the 1st video), or only after the first foot that is lifted comes down to the floor for the step? I'm unclear if the first foot after the jump stop can lift before returning to the floor for a pass or shot or if it's not allowed to lift at all. In other words after the jump stop what establishes the pivot foot - the act of lifting one foot up (thus establishing the other as the pivot foot), or putting that first foot lifted down? At which point is it a violation? Also, does anything change if both feet (instead of 1 or zero feet as shown in the respective examples) are on the floor when the dribble ends before going into the jump stop or is the same as 1foot? Thanks in advance.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Traveling violations in the jump step situations do not occur until the pivot is returned to the floor. It is always legal to pick up the pivot foot.

@timlee1981 11 месяцев назад

I wondered about this same thing. It’s weird because as I understand it, the first foot that was on the floor during the catch became the pivot. The player lifts the pivot to come into the two-footed jump stop which acts like a second step. This is kind of an exception to the rules you state since the pivot foot came up and then back down. So now we’re just in this weird space that’s unlike any other in the rules of traveling. It does feel weird to then leave the feet again- especially only one of them if both feet are now acting as one foot in the simultaneous landing.

@timlee1981 11 месяцев назад

Question here- you often here people say “you have to jump off two feet”. But it seems like to me there is no situation ever where you are required to jump off two feet. Is that right?

@OfficialsInstitute 11 месяцев назад

@@timlee1981 there is no requirement to jump off 2 feet.

@abhisheksajwan8877 Год назад

Sir respect for you from india

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Thank you.

@nicolemichelle3551 Год назад

In the third clip with the "airborne ball catch", when the player first touched the ball on the pass (@5:17) he appeared to take two steps from the top of the key to the foul line before dribbling to move into the jump stop, which appears to have been the travel.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Traveling isn’t gauged on when you first touch the ball. You must be “holding” the ball before violating the traveling rule.

@Ronder-uf5vr 5 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute can you elaborate on that a little? what is the difference between touching and holding the ball?

@lancerubel9453 2 года назад

Thank you for the great explanation. One important question I'm now confused about though: by the same logic as the last example in the video, is it therefore illegal for a player to take 2 steps to the basket for a layup? In that situation, after picking up his dribble isn't the player also returning his pivot foot to the ground (the 2nd step) before releasing it for the shot? Are you only actually allowed 1 step to the basket therefore? Thanks in advance.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

The same logic applies to all traveling situations, including layups. During a layups, however, it is very hard to know exactly when the ball is “held/caught” by the dribbler. If you cannot determine a specific foot on the ground at the time of the dribbler catching the ball, you should not penalize with a travel. So even though many times a layup is, by rule, a travel, it is almost always passed on because the pivot cannot be absolutely identifiable. Make sense?

@lancerubel9453 2 года назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Thanks very much for the response. Yes and no. I feel like in many of these examples it is often difficult to determine when exactly the player catches the ball (such as the 3rd play in this video). In some respects determining when a player catches the ball and which foot is on the ground at that time seems easier to me to see on a lay up than on some other plays. Perhaps you could make another great video with examples of layups that are clear traveling violations and others that should not be called because the pivot cannot be absolutely identifiable? Thanks so much again!!

@bullshark3000 Год назад

in a layup the first step is the pivot foot. the 2nd step propels the player into the air and he has to shoot or pass before landing with either one foot or both feet.

@WhoYouTh1nkYouAre 3 года назад

Would be great to have some reference on the rule in the book while telling why it's travel or not. Because for now only from your words I can say that one step back is illegal and the other is not. Because it looks like step back was pretty legal with "gather, 1,2, shoot".

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

As stated in the introduction, when determining legality of the jump stop or step back moves, we reference rule 4.44.2 in the NFHS rules book. Thanks for watching.

@markbrandly6036 2 года назад

There is no gather step in high school. If you gather with one foot on the floor, you do not get two more steps.

@user-mi8gg3nv6r 2 года назад

finally it makes sense on the hop step (1st vid)

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful.

@deedelta9263 Год назад

With the airborne catch exception, does that mean technically I could “bunny hop” down the entire court as long as I never put 2 hands on the ball? (Not that one would, just taking to extreme for better understanding)

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Two hands do not need to be on the ball for a player to be considered “in control.” It is a good general rule of thumb to use when going from dribbling to holding, but the official must use judgment as to when control begins.

@dave.thedev 2 года назад

Please do one where a player does a pound dribble into ONE hand and gathers the ball with TWO hands while both feet are in the air and lands with a staggered 1-2 landing. This is a move that is increasingly common because it should allow the player to still pivot and even step through. I also hate getting called for a travel on this because it's not the same as a traditional jump stop.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

If we acquire any of these types of moves we'll try and add it to a segment. Thanks for watching.

@greenmirror5555 Год назад

did they catch it with one hand and then rest the other on it?

@dave.thedev Год назад

@@greenmirror5555 No, a 1 hand pound into a jump where the second hand comes to the ball (or hand comes under the ball) while the player is airborne on the jump stop -- meaning the gather occurs during the airborne portion (no pivot has been established because the ball hasn't been gathered). In this case the pivot is established when the first foot touches the floor. This allows you to take one additional step to shoot or pass, OR you can then pivot off the landing into a fade away or something else.

@LocalMilf-nn8et Год назад

Doug Christine used to do this move all the time

@lam00978 11 месяцев назад

I have seen many this type moves in NBA now..(jump step 1-2 landing and then move non-pivot foot one more step) I always suspect this type moves is it Travel..

@RYG1111 2 месяца назад

Knowing the rules by the letter is one thing, but catching all the movements at game speed will need eagle eyes. Officiating is an under appreciated part of the game.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 месяца назад

Agreed. Proper application of the rules is not easy.

@chrmbs.2807 11 месяцев назад

To me on the penultimate clip, it looks like the step back doesn't have a simultaneous landing still, it's just not as clear cut. I'm assuming there can be a small discrepancy in when both feet touch the ground rather than it needing to be exactly at the same time?

@OfficialsInstitute 11 месяцев назад

The rules state “simultaneously” but I usually like to not split hairs on how exact and and give some slight leeway.

@georgewilliams8492 7 месяцев назад

So as long as you catch the ball airborne you can pivot on either foot?

@OfficialsInstitute 7 месяцев назад

Not necessarily. You have to catch the ball airborne AND land on both feet simultaneously to be able to choose your pivot. If you catch in the air and land on one foot then the other, the first foot to touch is the pivot.

@tommywolmart265 7 месяцев назад

2 questions: 1) what about step throughs? And 2) if the play controls the ball in mid air (both feet of the ground, then they can land 1-2, right?

@OfficialsInstitute 7 месяцев назад

Not sure what you mean by a step through, but if a player catches the ball with both fee in the air, then they can land 1-2 BUT the first foot becomes the pivot.

@valentonne185 9 месяцев назад

Tenía entendido que haciendo el denominado 'gather step' se podía pivotar al momento de caer con ambos pie, más no en el caso de aterrizar de la misma forma en el segundo paso

@OfficialsInstitute 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching.

@FHtmOfficial 2 года назад

When you gather the ball while having one foot already on the floor, isn't that a zero step ?! So in that case you still allowed to 2 more steps therefore you can jumbstop with 2 feet simultaneously (step 1) then pivot (step 2), that would supposedly be legal ! Also you can step back with one foot then lend the other (still 2 steps in addition of the zero step which actually doesn't count) ! Any clarification ?

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

The NFHS does NOT have a zero step.

@timcullen5656 2 года назад

The last play, great explanation on why it was a travel. The player does not land on 2 feet simultaneously.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Glad you liked it.

@greasygrinder1418 2 года назад

Is it same rule applied on euro step? Cuz to me its basically euro step goin backwards.

@Anzheng2008 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute curious about the last one, James Harden did a lot move like this in the NBA, what's the difference?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

@@Anzheng2008 The difference is NBA has different rules regarding traveling. James Harden may be able to perform the move legally in the NBA but in NFHS high school basketball it is illegal.

@Anzheng2008 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute thank you for the clarification

@dannyan7795 2 года назад

On the last play. If the player crossed the ball and dribbled the ball one more time as he pushed off his right foot and did one two. Would it still be travel?

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

It comes down to when the player catches/holds the ball. If he pushes off his right foot before he catches/holds the ball it would be legal. If he is holding the ball when he pushes off his right foot, it would still be a travel.

@N-PTRS Год назад

So on the last clip. If he would have got rid of the ball before the second foot landed it would have been fine?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

That’s a tough question because the rule doesn’t say you can jump off one foot and land on the other. It only addresses landing both simultaneously. With that said, most officials would probably call nothing in that scenario.

@anhthile6733 7 месяцев назад

I love the break down of this. Unfortunately, the 1-2 steps / jump-stop is not called ever. The jump stop step thru / jump stop up and under is never called any more. Youth / HS / College and NBA- they’re not called and coaches are teaching it. Myself including- we teach it (coaching for 30 years) & and when I start officiating I totally understand under officiating bylaws this is a travel but no-one is calling it. Is this still being call today? Thank you for your input?

@OfficialsInstitute 7 месяцев назад

You are right. It's being called less and less as it becomes more popular at the higher levels. Not sure how to combat that other than calling it ourselves.

@danielpaz671 5 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute The step thru has been clean since before dribbling was allowed

@jonathanharenokangdra619 9 месяцев назад

Does the gather step/zero step rule have big impact on the travelling rule?

@OfficialsInstitute 9 месяцев назад

There is no gather/zero step in NFHS rules.

@danielpaz671 5 месяцев назад

In NBA/FIBA, the gather step is only granted inone specific situation, ie when you gather while progressing with EXACTLY one foot on the floor.

@cir.2042 2 года назад

Watching the Japan B league nowadays and I see so many plays with looks like traveling so I searched for videos about the rule. After watching your video, I still think what I saw were traveling. I wonder why the refs not calling them.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Just remember, all the rules we review are based entirely on the NFHS rules book. Japan B league may have their own rule on traveling that makes it legal.

@cir.2042 2 года назад

@@OfficialsInstitute thanks for the clarification. Yet, seeing it there is so weird to see. 😅

@lancerubel9453 Год назад

How is this jump stop rule different than an "up and down", where a player goes up for a shot but changes his mind after thinking he may be blocked and lands on 2 feet? Is that situation also not a traveling violation until he takes another step?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

It all comes down to the pivot foot.

@peterblum5349 7 месяцев назад

I have a question about traveling as I'm seeing what I think is incorrect rulings...In NFHS, do shooters get TWO STEPS after they gather (i.e. - establish their pivot foot)? I'm seeing a lot of fellow NFHS referees allow this and just want to make sure i'm right when in calling traveling when they take TWO steps after they gather. Please help.

@OfficialsInstitute 6 месяцев назад

NFHS doesn't make any specification on how many steps a player gets. It is all based on the pivot foot and when the player is holding the ball. There is a lot of leeway given in a lay up style shot as it is difficult for an official to know exactly when a dribbling player caught/held the ball and established the pivot foot. This is why many of these moves appear to have 2 steps legally.

@hilzy9 2 года назад

So when are you actually able to pivot off both feet after jump stop? All of these examples were when you can't pivot.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Good question. We probably should have a video of examples of the correct procedure more often. Since a jump stop is not technically defined within the NFHS rules book, the answer to your question may not be sufficient, but a jump stop is when you jump off one foot and land on both simultaneously. There is never an option to pivot. However, if a player catches the ball with both feet off the floor, and lands on both simultaneously, they would be able to pivot (even though this isn't really a jump stop.) OR lands on one foot, that would be the legal pivot foot if the player decided to pivot at that point. Does that make sense?

@glennrobiato4031 Год назад

For ex. U ranning dribling the ball and try to shoot it but ball slip in ur hand can u pick it up? And shoot agian or pass? Or call u a travel or double drible?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

If the official judges this “slip of the ball” as a fumble, that player may regain control of the ball with no penalty as it is a loss of player control. They would then be able to attempt a try for goal again but could not dribble a second time.

@glennrobiato4031 Год назад

What i mean is the ball slip n my hand and bounce ..can i touch it again?? Or its a double drible? Can u pls make a video for that because there so many discusion if its good or not

@axscdvfb 4 месяца назад

Does the last one happen a lot in NBA without getting called?

@OfficialsInstitute 4 месяца назад

Traveling rules are different in the NBA and the last scenario in this series is legal at that level.

@fgrfgr9738 4 месяца назад

The last step back is a bit tricky... cause i dont considere it a jump stop, more looking like a legit two step out of the dribble, the official were to strict with that call. Other wise a lot of 2 step going for layup or power layup are not called out.

@OfficialsInstitute 4 месяца назад

They are becoming "accepted" in the game. Not sure if it's good or bad but it is what it is.

@danielpaz671 5 месяцев назад

On the staggered step back, the player would still be legal if gathers the ball while airborne. Given that the trail can not see the gather from his position he shouldn't be calling that travel. The mid has a clear view of the gather and should be making the call. If you can't see the ball yo can't call a travel - or you need to be giving serious benefit of the dooubt on the ttiming of the gather if you are going to be guessing like that.

@OfficialsInstitute 5 месяцев назад

Agreed

@levonkirakosyan4364 3 месяца назад

8:52 can you please explain from the other position. The player catches the ball and that is like 0 step. Then step 1 and step 2 backwards and jump. Why that is a travel?

@OfficialsInstitute 3 месяца назад

There is no 0 step in NFHS rules.

@levonkirakosyan4364 3 месяца назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Oh, thanks! Maybe it would make sense to make a standalone video describing main differences in the rules between leagues, because I believe that many people from other countries are watching your content because it is very structured, argument and easy to understand.

@nativerezmedia Год назад

But if you're dribbling and you pick it up don't you have two steps after? Regardless if your moving forward or back? So the last guy if he was moving to the basket wouldn't he be good?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

The notion of having 2 steps is not written anywhere in the rules book. It’s all based on when the ball is caught/held and where the pivot foot is, if any, at that moment.

@nativerezmedia Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute then basically everyone who goes in for a layups that gathers then takes 2 steps is traveling... If you go in for a layup (or floater sometimes) you do exactly what he did with that shot except you go towards the basket. Think about it... Gather, 1, 2...shot.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

@@nativerezmedia you are correct. Most layups are traveling, when following the rule as it’s written. However, one could argue that in a layup action play, it is extremely difficult to determine exactly when the ball is caught/held and what, if any, foot may be touching the floor. So in general, as officials, we don’t nitpick this situation.

@bwoods43 Год назад

In the second example, you are allowed to jump stop and take a shot because with a successful jump stop, either foot can be a pivot foot. In the third example, the travel occurs before the highlighted part. You can see the player take three steps before going into the jump stop.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

A jump stop may start with one foot in the ground, and if that’s the case, when the player comes down with both feet simultaneously, they cannot pivot.

@emannuel321 9 месяцев назад

Are you allowed to dribble then pick up your dribble in the course of taking two steps and then stop at step two to pass or shot fake and score?

@OfficialsInstitute 9 месяцев назад

Not exactly sure what you mean, but if dribbling player picks up the ball, And goes one two, essentially making 1 the pivot and 2 the non pivot, then yes, player may pass or shoot.

@emannuel321 9 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute I think you explained it, thanks! Just to clarify though, let’s say you are driving full speed for a layup and pick up your dribble and take two steps then slam on the brakes. Guys I play with are saying that once you pick up the dribble in that scenario you have to pass or shoot by the second step. That you can’t stop and let a defender fly by or something and then shoot after. Sounds to me like you’re saying that’s all good as long as you’re first step is your pivot foot.

@shahrokh75 3 месяца назад

Does this rules still counts when you have to count zero step ?

@OfficialsInstitute 3 месяца назад

There is no zero step in NFHS rules.

@leswinter6850 Год назад

Why do they even allow you to leave the floor with the ball in your hands and return to the floor with the ball in your hands? That’s always been traveling in my book. When did the rule change?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Been allowed for a LONG time.

@chuckgame4210 Год назад

euro step catches the ball ( changes the balls direction) while the foot is on the ground.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Euro steps can be tricky because we tend to expect a player to continue in the same path and direction, even though the rules do not state that is a requirement.

@ShareefusMaximus Месяц назад

@5:51 It would be legal except he lifted his established pivot ' before shooting. Which is currently legal by NBA rules but has been traditionally illegal in the vast majority of leagues.

@OfficialsInstitute Месяц назад

NBA has very different rules regarding traveling that the NFHS.

@bpmachete 2 года назад

I was checking and the rules have been updated in 2018 Fiba and 2019 NBA you can lift your pivot foot of gather and take two more steps so taking this into account hop step and step backa have to be updated aince now you can gather skip to another step and then another step and then shoot pass or even stop. So the step after your gather is the pivot foot, and the gather step is now in the rules as the step not counted.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

These rules, listed in this video, reference the NFHS rules specifically. But thank you for the update in other leagues.

@petermuller7079 2 года назад

Hi, even if the consequence (having two full steps AFTER gatheroing) is right, your the explaination not entirely correct: Even after this rule update it is not allowed to put your pivot found back to the ground (after lifting it)! The pivot foot is just NOT the foot that is touching the ground while gathering - but the next one. (only when the player is in motion AND simultaiously gathering the ball AND Having one foot on the ground) This first 'step' (that is not counted for the two allowed steps) is then called 'zero-step' or 'gather step'.

@bpmachete 2 года назад

@@petermuller7079 Yes but that is semantics and it was illegal. Also what is the point of all the rules involving the hop stop. You gather in that foot and then have to land on both feet and neither can be pivot foot. That was as close as you got to taking two steps after the gather. Now why would that rule exist? You can gather and fall on one and then another step and then that step is the pivot, or should be...

@bpmachete 2 года назад

@@petermuller7079 Also they are allowing Curry now to take a step back put hand under ball, and take 4 steps back. Is this going to be the next evolution? The double step back... So ok just allow people to take as many steps as they want who cares at this point. You can dribble step back gathering the ball with one hand then take one step (after zero step) then hop back and stop taking two more steps lol

@petermuller7079 2 года назад

@@bpmachete Semantics can be useful for a better understanding... ;-) E.g. i think a lot of travel discussions are really easy to solve with the right semantics and a lot of confusion is created by all those non-official terms describing the different 'moves'. - Look at the contact AFTER the gathering (if you stand still, that's considered 'after'). a) if on one foot -> that's your pivot b) if on both feet -> either one can be pivot (by lifting the other) - once the pivot foot is lifted, it's not allowed to touch the floor again. - only two steps are allowed (with pivoting counted as one). This is as easy as it get's. It doesn't matter in which direction you move, if you hold the ball (throwing in the air and catching again is also allowed), what you do with your arms, .... while respecting those rules. Complications only occur by some special rules: i) in case a) (and without any pivoting done) you are allowed to jump from the pivot foot and land on both feet ii) if you gathered with one foot on the floor your are not allowed to land on that foot again (i don't really see the reason for this rule).

@ronrutjr Месяц назад

It would have been nice if you would show the video of a player performing a legal step back move Landing 1-2. That means they would have delayed or caught the ball on the back foot. The movement with it still look the same an officials get tricked with this. As a trainer I am teaching kids to delay the pickup of the ball just for that reason

@OfficialsInstitute Месяц назад

Maybe we’ll put one together. Thnx

@zammy23 3 месяца назад

Could it be that the rule is different overseas?

@OfficialsInstitute 3 месяца назад

Yes, FIBA and NFHS have different rules regarding traveling.

@ecmoraes86 3 месяца назад

Is there any difference in these rules between FIBA and NBA?

@OfficialsInstitute 3 месяца назад

Not sure of the differences between FIBA and NBA for traveling but I'm pretty sure they are similar.

@jumpbadgang4967 2 года назад

At the 5:11 mark that player was called for traveling because he didn’t dribble before taking two steps. Had nothing to do with the pivot. That was the right call

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Not having spoken to the officials on this game, we cannot be certain as to why the whistle was blown, but based in the action of the players timed to when the hand goes up to stop the clock, it was more probable it was for the ending pivot than the initial stutter. With that said, if you know with 100% certainty the player was holding the ball at the time he established one foot as a pivot, and lifting before dribbling, you could indeed have a traveling violation. In our opinion, however, he was moving prior to catching the ball, continued to move while catching the ball, and started a dribble as soon as he had enough control to do so, still while moving. Very hard to distinguish a pivot in this scenario and thus a pass by the officials.

@nverbeengr8tr771 Год назад

The way I see it, the last scenario did a stepback. Right foot (during the gather phase) was lifted as soon as the left foot landed back wards (Step 1). Or did I just missed a frame on the video?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Looks like ball was caught/held with 1 foot touching the court, jumps off that foot legally, but then lands on 1 foot followed by the other. It’s only legal if the feet return simultaneously.

@konjstip6156 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute To my knowledge jumpstop can be the feet simultaneously stop, or 1-2 stop. We were thought while training basketball it was the same (FIBA rules, and I would say they are more strict about travels than NBA). Even in FIBA in last 25 years (for how long I'm watching and playing basketball), you can see players in transition dunking from 1 step then 1-2 jumpstop motion, same as this last stepback but going forwards, very common while transition dunking. I always thought that was a travel, and referees were not calling those on transition dunks, but they were calling it "in game", basically it's the same as this "Harden" stepback you are showing... But even now, it's all cloudy to me, some referees told me that's a legal move, some told me it's not legal but it gets tolerated in transition dunk... Right now there is a whole bunch of new "stepthrough "religion" that says you can jumpstop 1-2 from a drible, do your pivots around foot 1, lift a pivot foot (1) and jump off the non pivot foot (2) making a step-through... Please check instagram page stepthroughjoe there are hundreds of examples showing that, I still think that's a travel. Please shed us some light. Thank you

@CFLS95 2 года назад

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@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Thanks for watching

@sonnypoloche8865 4 месяца назад

What about the “gather step”?

@OfficialsInstitute 4 месяца назад

In NFHS there is no gather step

@fr3shramengaming Год назад

if you do step back, does that mean you cant pivot either foot? thanks

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Correct

@danielpaz671 5 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute no, it depends on whether he picks up the ball in the air or off of one

@lam00978 11 месяцев назад

3:14 catches the ball by one foot on floor and then jump, land by 2 foots. If he move any foot one more step like 4:04 it is Travel violation right ?

@OfficialsInstitute 11 месяцев назад

Correct

@lam00978 11 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Thanks for replying. Also catch the ball by one foot on floor and jump, then I land by one foot first and then other foot.. It is Travel violation already..?

@OfficialsInstitute 11 месяцев назад

@@lam00978 yes.

@reunion_k9375 3 месяца назад

wait i can jump with he ball in my hands land with both of my feet and jump again to shoot ?

@OfficialsInstitute 3 месяца назад

Yes, if moving/dribbling and jump off one foot.

@forallsportskind 8 месяцев назад

The rules are laid out clearly so there shouldn't be any confusion. It's only when we allow outside opinions, family/friend views, refs, or childhood teachings to interfere with what we read in the rulebook. @7:57 he is clearly wrong. No traveling violation occurred on that play. In every level of basketball, after ending your legal live dribble, you are allowed to use any legal arm leg foot body, or ball movements(including 2 steps) as part of the "shot motion" as long as there's no "pause" & you don't commit any violation(like a charge) before the play is over. The "shot motion" ends when the player releases the ball towards the basket. The player ended his dribble with his rt foot on the floor, took two legal steps(left then right), and then alighted for the shot. This could also serve as the description of someone shooting a layup. Per the rulebook, this is a legal play.

@OfficialsInstitute 8 месяцев назад

thanks for watching

@forallsportskind 8 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute No problem. I enjoyed it.

@danielpaz671 5 месяцев назад

If he ended his dribble with the right foot on the floor, then the right foot is his pivot. He may lift it but not bring it down before releasing the ball for a pass or shot. Further, there is nothing in any of the four major rulebooks that prohibits a 'pause' in your shooting motion

@jerzonramz2 9 месяцев назад

NFHS doesn't have gather step? Last clip would've been a clean play if gather step is allowed. i.e., planted with right foot first, before holding ball with both hands. Stepped back with left foot (step 1) then right foot (step 2.)

@OfficialsInstitute 9 месяцев назад

You are correct.

@sainbayarsb Год назад

FYI, it is legal in NBA though as per NBA official referee.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Yea it is

@petermuller7079 2 года назад

Hi, doesn't the NFHS rulebook (i really don't know) include the pivot foot definition of FIBA (25.2.1) and NBA also known as 'gather step' or 'zero-step')? In this video (IIRC) the pivot foot is defined as the foot touching the ground WHILE gathering the ball .... where FIBA and NBA define it as the foot touching the ground AFTER gathering the ball (when progressing/in motion). I think according to FIBA/NBA video #2 wouldn't be a travel since the player gathers the ball (in motion) with one foot in the ground (= NOT pivot foot), then landing on both feet (= can choose one pivot foot) and hen pivoting. But maybe high school rules are different.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

NFHS does not have a 0 step in it's definitions of traveling or pivot. It is very specific in what a moving/dribbling player is allowed to do after catching the ball. This is a very distinct difference in rule interpretation between NFHA and FIBA. Thanks for watching.

@petermuller7079 2 года назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Thank you for the clarification. Maybe it would be a good idea to state such differences/specialties in the video itself since it shows up between a lot of nba or fiba related videos at RU-vid and is likely to cause confusion (in this already unfortunately messy field ;-) ).

@Noodleboy7 11 месяцев назад

The airborne player after he lands can he tale 2 steps?

@Noodleboy7 11 месяцев назад

Take

@OfficialsInstitute 11 месяцев назад

No. Assuming the airborne player has not yet established a pivot foot, he can only take one and a half steps. First step is with the non pivot foot, lifting and returning to to the floor. The 1/2 step is the pivot foot lifting and stepping forward but not returning to the floor.

@angrydinosaur8plus9 Год назад

I think the high school rules ask too much of officials. You can't watch for end-of-dribble at the hands and also see where the feet are at the same time to see which one (or neither) is on the floor. NBA/FIBA rules are easier for imperfect humans to call, imho: Look at the hands first, ok dribble's dead, now watch the feet and count two steps. Even on the slow-mo 5:58, to me it looks like his right foot is bent in the middle as if he's got pressure on that foot still. Really tough job you guys have calling it live by high school rules.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Agreed. Traveling is one of the tougher rules in the game.

@Y81715 Год назад

Uhf hard to believe it takes 2 min to actually start the content of the video, that really needs to improve. Good video though. I wish you'd include the two other examples of: 1- an unsimultaneous but legal step-back, and 2- is it legal to have a jump stop: where the dribble was picked up with one foot on the ground, followed by a simultaneous landing can be followed by a shot where one foot leaves the ground (or two even)? (I assume it's not legal) The 30 second intro is way too long and slightly cringy, 5-10 seconds is acceptable to sit and watch, we already know what the channel is about - look at any other RU-vid-channel out there :D Just speed it up people.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Ok. We will try to improve.

@sd1rager 2 года назад

when steph curry moves his hand to the side of the ball pauses when dribbling and pushes it to his opposite hand and continues dribbling with the opposite hand, is that traveling? the rule says it is if the player pauses and puts his hand under the ball and continues his dribble it is in deed traveling. it does not look natural and if it isn't should be.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Just remember, the NBA has a different rules set than HS or even NCAA. In high school basketball that is governed by the NFHS rules. if the ball comes to rest in one or both hands, it is considered a carry or palming.

@chaunceyallenliampaglinawa2787 Год назад

This is extremely helpful, however, I found the last step back jumper clip so odd that it's a travelling, I have seen some 90's and 00's players including Michael Jordan, doing that step back jumper just like the last clip. Correct me if I'm wrong, if I don't pick up the ball with both hands and do the 1-2 step, is it still considered as travelling?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

This step back move is legal in the NBA as the traveling rule is different than the NFHS.

@mbh9700 2 года назад

What about this one? At :48, a player gets passed the ball. If you pause, and use period and comma to go frame-by-frame, you can see when he gained possession, then takes one step, then jumps into a landing, but not simultaneously with both feet. Based on when he gained possession, and his feet position and landing, was that last shot a travel? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B5-MhSqoRO0.html

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Honestly it's a really hard play to officiate in real time and when slowed down, the ball is away from the camera so it is too hard to tell if the ball was caught with the left or right foot down. If the official rules the ball is caught when the right foot is on the floor, then the jump stop would be legal as both feet come down close enough together to be considered simultaneously. Not splitting hairs on that landing. But tough, tough play to rule on. Thanks for sharing.

@JackSparrow-tf7ie 6 часов назад

the clip #2 if it's a travel y does the red didn't make the call

@antieverything1 Год назад

For all the people who posture by claiming to hate the gather step/zero step rule in the NBA and FIBA (which is to say every level of the game other than US amateur play)...this is why they added it.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Thanks for watching

@mtuisee911 9 месяцев назад

How is a jump stop legal cause once both feet is in mid air how can you land and still have the ball that’s like turning al layup into a so called jump step

@OfficialsInstitute 9 месяцев назад

Because the rules allow it.

@faycaljedda334 10 месяцев назад

At 6:13 mark, you can see that he already lifted the pivot (left foot) after having landed on both feet, before shooting the ball on one leg (right foot) . That is illegal my bro

@OfficialsInstitute 10 месяцев назад

After landing on both feet, neither can be a pivot, however simply lifting your foot is not a pivot. A pivot takes place when a player steps once , or more than once. The operative word there is "steps." 4.33 Thanks for watching.

@bravestinger7098 11 месяцев назад

Last part is confusing though. Why Harden?!

@OfficialsInstitute 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching

@thiagogomes3556 Год назад

Where is the gather step? When a player catches the ball with a foot at the floor is considered as gather step, then, the player can do two more steps

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

There is no gather step in NFHS terminology.

@austinrwann5509 6 месяцев назад

5:40 in its an obvious travel the guy cought the pass on right foot then stepped left then back right as he put the ball down .. travel before jump stop

@OfficialsInstitute 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching

@jonpadgett1346 Год назад

On step back both feet slid on floor. Is that not traveling.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

If the feet are still touching the floor while they slide, yes.

@MDMediaTV Год назад

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Thanks for watching

@patalberta5493 3 месяца назад

Are Harden stepbacks travelling then? He steps back with one foot and take 2 more steps.

@OfficialsInstitute 3 месяца назад

This is a rule in the NFHS. NBA has a different set of traveling rules making it legal.

@zachschultz5192 Год назад

I’m totally confused why you say the last step back is a travel? After you pick the ball up one two steps unless you establish ball with two feet on ground.

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

NFHS rules state, a moving/dribbling player that catches the ball with on foot on the floor, may jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Not jump off that foot and land on one followed by the other. There is absolutely no mention of allowing a player two steps after picking the ball up. It just doesn't exist.

@zachschultz5192 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Are you serious? Explain a lay up? One two up. I mean are we serious

@zachschultz5192 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Another thing I wanna say is try running down the court going full speed with 1 foot on the ground catching the ball and only having the next step stopping you. Of course you get a one two pivot.

@temmycarl4146 Год назад

Where mdw at😅

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Thanks for watching

@anlai4586 Год назад

Please!! The second situation is legal, he took zero step and then bunny hop is 1, he can take 1 more step before shooting, just check the rule again

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Zero step does not exist in NFHS.

@anlai4586 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute sorry, my fault

@harshitbsmustudent5705 2 года назад

that second step back looks legal tho...it doesnt have to be a jump step it can be a gather step and then two steps away from the hoop.

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

According the NFHS rules, this is a traveling violation.

@harshitahuja8036 2 года назад

@@OfficialsInstitute that means there is no gather step rule in NFHS??!!

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

Correct.

@harshitahuja8036 2 года назад

Thnx for replying

@markbrandly6036 2 года назад

There is no gather step in high school basketball. This move would be legal in fiba and nba but not high school and ncaa

@tleakboro 3 года назад

I’m an official for Military basketball, and AAU. I’m glad I found this video. What I’ve learned is NBA players travel a lot.

@OfficialsInstitute 3 года назад

Ha. Yes they do. Thanks for watching.

@patrickpickens8926 3 года назад

Yes they do but it also important to remember that NBA traveling rules are different from NFHS.

@markbrandly6036 2 года назад

None of these would be travels by the nba ruleset, so I think that you could not have possibly learned that from this video

@ShareefusMaximus Месяц назад

There is no one who doesn't pity pat their two foot stop of you slow the film down enough.

@OfficialsInstitute Месяц назад

Agreed

@odirleisantana 10 месяцев назад

why are high school rules different from NBA and FIBA? this only adds to the confusion...

@OfficialsInstitute 10 месяцев назад

NBA has better, more skilled players, and therefore have a different rule set to adjust to that higher standard of play. Not sure why NFHS and FIBA are different in certain areas but that's pretty standard for many sports, when it crosses international borders.

@odirleisantana 10 месяцев назад

@@OfficialsInstitute I understand that, I was talking specifically about the travel rule, sorry for not being clear. I live in Brazil, my kids play in a sub14 team (so middle school, not even high school), and the only ruleset all ages use around here is FIBA's. Perhaps different rulesets for high school, college and pro play is a US only thing?

@OfficialsInstitute 10 месяцев назад

@@odirleisantana You may be right. Americans seem to like to complicate everything.

@mae2759 Год назад

So, million dollar question, how the hell do you guys watch the feet for travelling and also watch the upper body for fouls?

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Lots of practice.

@jasonkosten 4 месяца назад

Good luck making a split second decision on something highly subjective. We all had to watch it 3 times in slow motion to get it right. What constitutes a gather? 2 hands on the ball. Hand under the ball? I'd love to teach my kids next level footwork but there will be no consistency from one ref to the next. Especially at the lower levels.

@OfficialsInstitute 4 месяца назад

these plays are some of the toughest to officiate in the game of basketball

@jasonkosten 4 месяца назад

If a player gathers the ball with his right foot on the ground then his right foot is his pivot. How can he legally return his pivot foot to the ground for a jump stop? That used to be called an up and down/travel. I know thecrule book somehow allows for this but makes no sense. If the player gathers the ball with no feet on the ground then when he lands his pivot would be established. It only makes sense this would be the only legal way to perform a jump stop. All highly subjective in a game that is very fast.

@ssgalaxyx2424 Месяц назад

8:26 seteven curry seteven curry steven curry 12 12

@OfficialsInstitute Месяц назад

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@Travel_or_Not 2 года назад

Sir, I am a student who plays basketball in South Korea and I wanted to ask you a question about traveling according to the NFHS basketball rules. I first want to make clear that I am aware about the rule differences between NFHS and other basketball leagues. I also thoroughly read the NFHS Basketball Rulebook. My question is “If the NFHS basketball rule does not accept the so called ‘gather step’, and it defines the pivot foot (first step) as the foot when the ball is in control (Section 44, Article 2.b.), why do the referees not call every layup step as travel?” If you are asked to perform a normal right hand layup, I am sure everyone would catch the ball while their left foot is in contact to the floor. Dribble -> Catch (left foot on floor) -> Right foot (1)-> Left foot (2) -> shoot (release the ball) However, Section 44, Article 2.b, defines the pivot foot as the foot that is on the ground while the player catches the ball. Therefore, under this rule, shouldn’t every layup step be called a travel? Dribble -> Catch (left foot on floor, 1, pivot) -> Right foot (2)-> Left foot (3, travel) -> shoot (release the ball) To avoid travel, the player must catch the ball while in midair, which is hardly seen during a layup move. Nearly every player (NFHS included) catches the ball and steps two more. For example, in this video (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2n3WlhneGf8.html ) at 3:13, the player in white uniform (number 5) catches the ball while his left foot is on the ground. He then steps two more (right, left) and then releases the ball. In other words, he lifts and returns the pivot foot before releasing the ball. Also, a video you posted in 2019 (Title: Layup Traveling) is a good example of what I am trying to ask you. Therefore, could you tell me why NFHS referees do not call every layup step a travel even though there is no ‘gather step’ rule?

@OfficialsInstitute 2 года назад

This is a very good question, and there really isn't a good answer for it other than, when a player is dribbling, it's very hard to determine when the ball is caught and held during a layup style action. So, officials have, over time, allowed more leeway in this motion. Remember, rules are written to keep one team from gaining an advantage over another, or create a disadvantage. In the NFHS rules book, there is a section before all other rules headed "The Intent And Purpose Of The Rules" and one of the lines in this sections states, "It is important to know the intent and purpose of the rule so that it may be intelligently applied in each play situation." With this statement, the purpose of the traveling rule, if applied in most layup situations, would not be relevant in this layup situation as the rule was not written specifically for these types of plays. Does this make sense? Not a great answer, I realize, but I think one that helps describe the mindset of the average high school official for layup situations.

@Travel_or_Not 2 года назад

@@OfficialsInstitute Sir, thank you for the fast reply. I never thought of looking at the "The Intent And Purpose Of The Rules" section. I just went straight to the main rules. Thank you again, and it has been a great help. I really enjoy watching your video :)

@taiwanthebest 9 месяцев назад

When are the HS gane gonna integrate with the rest of the world and make the travel rules the same across the board?

@OfficialsInstitute 9 месяцев назад

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@franckylibbrecht6103 Год назад

5:18 catches ball with 1 foot on the ground. He was not airborne...

@OfficialsInstitute Год назад

Very hard to make that determination in real time with the angle we saw, so with that said, giving the benefit of the doubt is usually a better choice, but you could be right.

@franckylibbrecht6103 Год назад

@@OfficialsInstitute That's right. Giving the benefit of the doubt is mostly a better choice. What you didn't see, you can't call. And calling a travel is one of the most difficult things to do. The game goes to fast. (And that is what it makes so beautifull).