As a kid, and still an adult, it always baffled me how professionals got more leniency with violating their craft by traveling than 9 year olds in a public league
Fr if you dribble with both hands in jr league they always whistle on the kids, shoot HEY he don’t know better let him learn how to dribble. While grown men know they fucking up and get millions for the refs to be Ray Charles 😂😂😂
"So he took a few steps." "Hey! It's the NBA" That sums this entire vid up perfectly. A player's likelihood of getting called for travelling is inversely proportionate to their star power.
@@beegtea No, Morris used his second step as his pivot foot which is a clear traveling violation. But I hate that "that's every James Harden stepback", because of course Harden traveled from time to time, but usually his stepback is just a perfectly timed gather. But as far as I know all these scenes were legit traveling violations.
It's a business, not a sport, because the rules are based on profitability and not values or competition. Whatever gets fans more involved and brings in more money will always take precedence
@kylezo That's a shit take. A lot of teams dont win often. Just like any other sport. People don't watch sports so they can see players cheat. That's actually a braindead take. You can also watch most games for free. People buy tickets for the stadium experience, not so they can see some team score. And if one team travels a lot and wins, the losing team is gonna be pissed. Allowing people to break the rules is just as bad for money as it is good for money. Plus if this is the case, people would have just been traveling for the history of the sport, but they haven't been doing that. You genuinely sound like someone who's never stepped foot in any stadium. "They let them cheat because it's about money." What the actual fuck are you talking about dude 😂😂
@@zinzi571 Carrying, travelling, double dribbles happen so often in NBA games the commentators have to make light of it to tell the viewers that they realize the game is lax on rules. More lax than a developmental game of 12-year-old girls basketball.
Not with 2 comments and less than 1k likes he doesnt, its a good comment but he didnt "win" the internet. In fact, I loved his comment but your comment single handedly ruined his comment@@matthewmehegan3475
I mean they aren’t going to constantly stop the game if you’re making tiny steps while standing still. It’s like when they play advantage in football (soccer🤓)
The Carmelo seven steps into the absolute brick 3 is iconic 😂 also D Wade was low key slick about scoochin that pivot foot forward I wouldn't be surprised if there were more clips of it
As a huge Wade fan - definitely, dude got away with a lot of foot shuffling (though far from the only one who did it). People wondering how the refs miss this stuff, the refs are mostly watching hands for fouls in these situations where someone is stationary on a pivot foot.
The first guy I ever saw do that and get away with it all the time was Allan Houston. It's a great cheat move to use in pickup and 1-on-1 cuz most people don't notice it and it allows you to get enough room to get around a defender pretty reliably on a straight-line drive.
@@user-yi9hz3or2t from my perspective, if the player dont travel he has a range of predefined plays that can follow - which makes the defense more aware of certain situations to guard. If you travel you break this. You get in a zone where "anything goes", which makes even harder to prepare your defense for.
If you watch games, you know it’s not a secret by any stretch of the definition. In the Lakers vs Nuggets game just 2 hours before, commentator talked about travels called in college that wouldn’t be and wasn’t in the NBA.
The fact that a guy can take FOUR steps before putting up a shot, but a finger nail scrape gets called as a foul, while the FOUR steps is overlooked, is just insane.
@@tommalouf9197 I don't know so please inform me: how is that so? I have always been told that you can't take more than two steps. Anything three and more is a travel, no?
@@aaronflowers8881 The Euro step, two-step, or long lateral is a basketball move in which an offensive player picks up their dribble, takes a step in one direction, and then quickly takes a second step in another direction. It is intended to allow the offensive player to evade a defender and attack the basket.
My best friend quit basketball in high school over this. He was a defensive standout and a really rough and tough kid. He would fight with refs every game about traveling and double dribble. He was right most of the time. If they put their hand on the side of the ball and then dribble again it’s double dribble. He always said if we play by the rules like they did when our dads played that nobody could score on him. He ended up being a great wrestler and never watched another second of basketball again.
That’s the secret reason white kids stop playing theres enough nordic stock go get 6’6”+ regularly, but their morality wont allow them to ignore half the rules with a clean conscience. Black kids don’t have that problem they love ignoring rules, nothing new to them
I feel bad for him but he did the right thing. Refs consistently not calling travels and double dribbling would piss me off too. If everybody ain't playing by the same rules then it's just a waste of everybody's time
no offense, but "rough and tough" = handchecked and fouled other players in high school, also it is legal to put your hand on the side of the ball, just not under it, it sounds like he doesnt know what the palming rules definition is
Gotta love the announcers at 0:46 and 1:25, as a football fan the days of Al Michaels calling out poor officiating with brutal honesty are gone and the NBA does it a lot better
TBH, and I just got this video recommended, what does that matter in that case? It's not like he would've taken the ball if there was a dribble or changed the outcome in any way.
@@justin379 Maybe you're the dense one that can't realise why that clip has no place in the video. Every sport has rules, which are partially stupid simply because they are way too simple. That's why referees don't call a lot of travels. Those travels don't affect the play and have provide no advantage. Same with tennis and the hindrance rule.
@@rhailex4727 well if it said that in the rules, then it'd be excusable but it doesn't, that's why it's called a rule, not a guideline. That isn't to mention how you'd define "no effect" anyways, there's a lot of leeway in that, that could get a lot of players cheated, which again, is why it's a rule, which Lebron of all people should obviously understand, he should be the last person who'd travel, especially in that situation of all situations, a top 5 professional player, in a professional league, in a professional game, in that circumstance should easily be able to practice a basic day 1 fundamental of the sport (dribbling), so it could be asked as to why he couldn't do such a simple thing. Rules are rules cause they're consistent, consistent is fair and leaves little room for complaining and controversial decisions when all players understand them collectively
3 step ones make sense, but some of the ones like Bradley Beal and Westbrook are INSANE! Only thing it could be is adrenaline taking over. Or they had a designed pass or play they were thinking about and when it came time to make that pass or play they had in their head, the opponents defense shifted and they didn't mentally adjust to it quick enough. The egregious ones are truly baffling, though.
Right, but unlike the rest of us they also learned they could get away with it. Thus removing the mental block and making them act this is a dunk contest. We weren't allowed to get away with this crap in highschool and they're out here running with the ball like its a football game
Remember counting Kevin Garnett posting up and taking 7 steps, Steve Nash starting a layup, crossing over his hands, no bounce and doing another layup step🤣🤣
With a ref looking right at him I bet 900 trillion dollars that I never had don’t have or will ever make along with possibly undiagnosed Keratoconus that I can ref better than these “professionals” while advocating for the 3 steps into a shot to be implemented as part of the game for example if a player takes the zero step or 3 full steps into a shot attempt right after the 3 steps, I would advocate for that to not be called a travel, if there’s no shot immediately after a zero step and the 2 steps after that or 3 full steps with no shot immediately after that, I would call travel for that and anything more than 3 steps (only based on hypotheticals) I don’t want to ref the league but I know I’d win that bet if that was the case
@@seeker296 ..... so? lmfao the fact you think this actually means anything is a pretty fair tell you've never watched a moment of real basketball in your life.
Sorry the russ one wasn't that egregious. Russ was distracted, very clearly walked with he ball and got called for it. He didn't make some cool play after taking 7 steps to get a standing ovation from the crowd.
Having played the game actively and also as ref, this is brutal to watch. When you really know the game you just instantly see a travel, it's not a matter of maybe you didn't see it because it was subtle. no, as ref the closest one always watches the person with the ball in the hand while the other 1 or 2 or however many are watching surriounding players doing illegal stuff. The moment the player with the ball travels i blow my whistle and call it, it's so blatant once your mind is conditioned to recognize it... Edit: That's why you see the bench calling the traveling. Cause everyone involved in the game see it instantly !
Even the fans will always see it. It's instinct. As a coach Sometimes I wonder what yall ref smoke before coming to games like seriously? They be acting like cops watching black people peacefully cross the road instead of focusing on criminals doing the real thing right beside them. "Like seriously dawg, he's carrying the ball right in front of your eyes. How can you not see it?" and you get a tech for that.
What is the rule for lay-ups? As a casual American, I just never ever understood it. Almost every lay-up looks like a travel to me, the video references like maybe you can get 3 steps" but is there an official definition for lay-up allowed walking.
@@MichaelQ-iv7pt Yes, once you place one hand under the ball ( carrying it) or take it into two hands you can lift one foot of the ground and then the other foot and then make a throw or lay-up attempt or pass the ball. I guess you could also just stop moving but you aren't allowed to move any foot anymore so you'd be pressured close by defense. *Edit: the sometimes tough to decide comes when a player is moving fast and maybe transitions from dribbling to carrying the ball right as he lifts a foot. It's rare to be confused if you've seen it 10'000+ times. There's slight difference in rules between NBA and rest of the world tho, when you stand on both feet, and you make a step, the ball must hit the floor before you plant then moving foot on the ground ( official basketball rules), but in the NBA you only have to make tha ball touch the ground before your second foot touches the ground, essentially making the first powerfull move to get past your opponent much easier ( more TV entertainment) in the NBA. Also why the US is not dominating the world in Basketball tournaments anymore*
@@MichaelQ-iv7pt, once you bring a second hand to the ball you can take one step and then you MUST leave the floor to shoot. Taking a second step without shooting or passing turns it into a travel.
I love the announcers. That one guy saying “he traveled and threw a bad shot” or whatever. These are my new favorite kind of videos to watch. They’re so baffling insane
I saw one a couple years ago when Harden actually took six or seven steps back before launching a long three, and the refs just let it go. It's absolutely infuriating.
@@wouldanyoneelseliketobehea7068 Ha! I honestly don't remember if he made it. I just remember the anchors on SportsCenter showing the footage and laughing about it.
I remember that fool moving his pivot twice, starting a dribble, stopping, moving his pivot a third time, then intentionally jumping into someone's arm and throwing up a trashball, then getting the call in his favor. I absolutely despise his "style".
As a kid i always tried to be careful and always kept in the back of my head not to travel. Turns out it was costing my performance greatly whether street or pro because apparently no one gives a damn
I think the funniest part is that as the list goes on, you would think the travel calls would go up, but it actually goes down. NBA refs are really something else lol
To be fair, some of these supposed travels are not travels. A lot of them look like it because the players take a long time to gather the ball. The Carmelo one is a good example of a non-travel because he dribbles once but never gathers for several steps (all legal, no limit of steps between dribbles), then comes to a stop gathers and shoots. Steps towards a travel don't start until the 2nd step after there's 2 hands on the ball.
@@BigRedNutcase911bro thank god finally somebody who knows wat a stutter dribble is Kyrie uses it all the time I can tell you hoop or at least know the game
I love the announcers talking on Steph's Harden impression about how that's every single Harden step-back three. And also when they say, "Hey, it's the NBA" everyone knows travels rarely get called unless there's like 5 steps in there.
Well yes and no They will most times call a real travel a travel But what harden and Steph and most players do with a "gather step" is allowed in the NBA rulebook.
The difference between Steph and Harden is Curry took 3 steps after gathering the ball in both hands. Harden took 2 after gathering, but took about 5 before which looks like it's a travel but it isn't according to the rules.
@@Set_Your_Handlle ig·no·rant /ˈiɡnərənt/ adjective lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. I think you’re here to embarrass yourself Joe. I think that’s what it is? Why are you okay with being idiotic so loudly and publicly? What happened to shame?
@@Set_Your_Handllewhat’s wrong with his use of ignorance there. The NBA refs seems to be ignoring traveling and double dribbling which is two of the most important rules of basketball
I noticed that it's hard to find a video like this for the 80/90s and even early 2000s of players traveling THIS bad. I stopped watching NBA when Kobe retired and kind of glad tbh.
I don't really watch basketball, so I was like "wait... that's against the rules too, right?" so glad to find I'm not the only one who saw it @@xtra_1807
When I was a kid playing basketball, I never quite got a hang of dribbling. I always was too afraid of traveling. Seems like I should not have cared that much.
I remember watching that Kendrick Perkins one live when he played for the Cavs. He shimmied from the free throw line to the top of the key. Like 10 steps. 😂
This sums up what to me has been the biggest problem with the NBA these past 10, 15 years; the officiating. It gets even worse when it comes to fouls and how they deal with flopping. People are literally rewarded for falling down on purpose.
The NFL has the same issue. A legendary QB like Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes gets looked at the wrong way when being sacked and the defense gets a roughing the passer flag. However, when a QB is having a bad season and being attacked by the media like Russell Wilson last year, the defense can make a false start to get to him, pick him up, and slam him to the ground on his head and the refs call NOTHING. I hate it.
@@DontActuallyWannaDiethey actually started calling carries this last season but the players obviously complained about it. JP and Ja do it all the time.
@@nathanrogers1793He has his gathering step, then one right and one left and that's his pivot when he stops. You can call a travel for his pivot moving while he stops but a tiny bit of movement is not often called.
@@Boerkreeelis gathering step? yes the one he caught the ball on but if you look he clearly catches it and its a gather step but then takes 3 more steps
@@nathanrogers1793 He has his left foot already planted before his hand makes contact with the ball. His next step is the gathering step, which is with his right foot. He then puts another step with his left and stops, using that left as his pivot. At no point are there 3 steps, thus no travel. You can call the travel for his pivot foot because it moves quite a bit but it's certainly not 3 steps. This is the definition of the gather, and traveling, for your info: A player who gathers the ball while progressing may (a) take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball or (b) if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball to start his dribble. A player who gathers the ball while dribbling may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after the player gathers the ball. The definition of a gather is as such: For a player who receives a pass or gains possession of a loose ball, the gather is defined as the point where the player gains enough control of the ball to hold it, change hands, pass, shoot, or cradle it against his body. For a player who is in control of the ball while dribbling, the gather is defined as the point where a player does any one of the following: Puts two hands on the ball, or otherwise permits the ball to come to rest, while he is in control of it; Puts a hand under the ball and brings it to a pause; Otherwise gains enough control of the ball to hold it, change hands, pass, shoot, or cradle it against his body. Morant has his foot planted already before receiving the ball, hence that cannot be that gathering step. His next step, which he does with the right, is his gathering step. He is now deemed in control of the ball and can take two steps from here without dribbling. So he could even take another step with his left foot, making his right the pivot, and still not be called for traveling. So instead of a travel with 3 steps, he actually only had 1.
Harden don't even travel that much. The Ricky Rubio one was def a travel but most other times he's mastered the timing of the gather step so he essentially gets 3 steps instead of 2. On Curry's he BARELY gathered right before the should've been "0 step" so it was a travel. It's close and it would've been fine to not call it but it was a travel when you take your time to look at it.
@@joeasuncion2891 People can explain it away like that all they like, and sure it may not be technically a travel by NBA rules, but anyone who has grown up playing basketball knows that taking 3 steps doesn't feel right and should be a travel
As a kid, back in the 90''s-00's, In Europe we used to say that in the NBA you were allowed 3 steps & everyone believed it to be true to their hearts... Today is even worse, wow.
Only 2 steps allowed in the NBA. I have no idea why people think that a foot that is already on the floor when the dribble ends should be considered a step. A dribble doesn't end at the last point the ball touches the floor...it ends when the player gains control of the ball and gathers it (two hands, against the body, or carried with a hand or part of the hand underneath the ball).
I'll never forgive James Harden for making that double step back move and I'll never forgive the NBA for not doing anything about it Edit: This is a satirical comment to all you bozos taking it way too seriously in the replies
Yeah, I remember seeing a video about the "zero" step which depends on where your hand is on the ball. I think as soon as your hand is in control of the lower half is when travel steps start counting.
That one’s not actually a travel, still a bad shot tho. His hand was behind the ball when he took those shuffle steps before shooting meaning he still “had a dribble” since he hadn’t picked up the ball. You can take any number of steps while you “have a dribble.” If his hand was under the ball it would’ve been a travel, but it was just a janky clean play.
I'm not a basketball fan and much less a basketball player, but I always found it so funny when playing pick up with some more avid players that they always, and I mean always, just call travel on whatever they feel like and then take 12 steps for a layup or something and claim it was clean. Such a weird rule.
Street ball is a huge toss up unless you've got a group of good regulars. You'll find some of thinnest skin people you've ever seen in your life who think they should be able to get away with anything and want to fight you for calling them out, but then will be the first person to be calling others out. Fucking fragile ego babies.
My love for NBA basketball began to wax cold once they stopped calling Traveling. Today they sometimes call it a “euro-step”, but it’s all just traveling.
