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Is A Nylon Rope A Good Chainsaw Tool For Flywheel & Clutch Removal? 

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Donyboy73 shows you the correct way to use a nylon rope to remove your chainsaw clutch!
Is A Nylon Rope A Good Chainsaw Tool For Flywheel & Clutch Removal?
In this video donyboy73 shows you how to remove a chainsaw clutch by using a nylon rope to lock the engine. This method if done correctly is an extremely good method to remove chainsaw clutches and flywheel nuts!
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@PaulStamp-w8d
@PaulStamp-w8d 10 месяцев назад
The best tutorial on piston stop I have seen, thx man
@robcole332
@robcole332 2 года назад
I can’t say enough about your videos. They are always excellent. They are so in-depth and clearly explained. The cut away was awesome. Had I never worked on these, you make us feel so confident after watching that people would feel better about working on them. You even teach this old dog new tricks. Thank you so much for the time you take out of your life to make your videos so enjoyable and informative. Thanks and may God bless you in all you do
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
thanks Rob, have a good weekend!
@fer7ll
@fer7ll Год назад
I totally agree! Amaizine!!! I have watched the video and I did it. It was perfect and give to me a lot of confidence.
@stevephillips1712
@stevephillips1712 Год назад
By far the best explanation for the rope and piston I have seen. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom.
@josephrich6014
@josephrich6014 2 года назад
Been using rope as a piston stop for a few years on my mopeds and small engines. Only had one get stuck, was able to turn flywheel backwards and get it out. Got lucky. Will use your screwdriver trick from now on. Thanks for the tip.
@andrewgoddard1789
@andrewgoddard1789 2 года назад
You make it so easy too understand Don... cheers from new zealand 🍻
@noahriedel801
@noahriedel801 11 месяцев назад
You're a wonderful teacher Dony. You take your time to explain everything thoroughly. Iv watched you for over 10 years now
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 2 года назад
By far, the best video ever showing this procedure!👍👍👍
@elcheapo5302
@elcheapo5302 2 года назад
Great vid, Don. I liked the cutaway. Many many moons ago when I worked in an OPE shop, we used an old starter rope from a larger (8+hp) engine. Fed in a bunch of it, never had it get stuck; didn't even know that was a thing.
@jimbennett7248
@jimbennett7248 Год назад
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I converted a Stihl 015 from a 1/4" chain to 3/8". I used a rope to lock the piston but didn't know enough to position the piston correctly. Well, the rope ended up in the exhaust port, but I was able to remove the clutch. While reassembling the saw I happened to take the muffler off to check for carbon deposits and discovered a two inch piece of rope in the muffler. The piston had severed the rope off where it entered the port. Luckily, no harm to the saw but I vowed to never try that again. Until, after watching this video, I'm confident I can do it properly now. THANK YOU!
@Lovinflyindrones2022
@Lovinflyindrones2022 2 года назад
Great video as always. I’ve been watching you for years now. Love your channel
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
have a good weekend William!
@muffinthepug2358
@muffinthepug2358 2 года назад
Excellent advice as per usual. Well done for taking the time to do a cylinder cut away so that people can really see and understand what's happening.
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
how's your Pug, one of my favorite dogs!
@muffinthepug2358
@muffinthepug2358 2 года назад
@@donyboy73 very well thanks but totally spoiled by my wife ;)
@shsechas
@shsechas 2 года назад
Been subbed to your channel for many years now. Just stopped by to thank you for all you help.
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@robstone5333
@robstone5333 2 года назад
You showed this years ago and I’ve done it ever since. I think it’s key that as much rope as possible be used. Doing this will keep piston travel to a minimum.
@canoetipper019
@canoetipper019 2 года назад
thanks for the informative video...that cut away really is a great training aid.
@donmayberryjrsOPE
@donmayberryjrsOPE 2 года назад
Great video Dony! If you don't have the piston stop tool this is way to do it!
@jjjuarez312
@jjjuarez312 2 года назад
Very important information!!! Good job brother...
@billsmith1770
@billsmith1770 2 года назад
good tips . i had never thought about getting the rope caught in a port , i have thought about maybe a smaller rope somehow tying itself in a knot (murphy's/bill's law) and being unable to get it out though . thanks for taking the time to make the cutaway , it made it much easier to understand exactly what's going on inside .
@redmodelaguy4778
@redmodelaguy4778 2 года назад
Your videos have always been very good, but now you’re raising the level still higher!
@lovestihlquality1369
@lovestihlquality1369 2 года назад
Never thought about pulling slack on starter cord. That was true nugget.
@covinhas87
@covinhas87 2 года назад
I was just about to write a comment asking about impact tools, and you just came up with an impact talking about it. 😄 Great video!
@j31355a
@j31355a Год назад
What a gift for teaching you have. Well done.
@No2gunBan
@No2gunBan 11 месяцев назад
Really helpful information about doing it this way. Thanks for doing this video
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 года назад
I seldom lock the cylinder when pulling the clutch off. I use my impact with the right size socket and it will usually spin the clutch right off. The only time I may lock the cylinder is when torquing the flywheel nut . However I usuall put them on with my impact, too. I give them several raps, which is usually sufficient to put the flywheel nut on tight. I do put some blue Loctite on the crank threads before tightening the nut with the impact. I have never had one work loose this way. On Husqvarna saws you need to use a clutch removal tool instead of a socket. I tighten clutches with my impact, too.
@jamesb7224
@jamesb7224 2 года назад
Really liked looking into a destroyed engine. Always amazing that people don't keep up with the maintenance on their equipment
@fabianm-v2446
@fabianm-v2446 Месяц назад
Well, I definitely messed up. I usually do before I watch these wonderful videos I'll find after... 😔
@nidalsultan
@nidalsultan 2 года назад
Very beneficial video. Thanks! For me i prefer the nylon rope. I don't trust the plastic stops much I'm afraid they could brake up into the cylinder if they are not 100% compatible with the chainsaw and it'll be a huge mess to remove.
@canuinti
@canuinti 6 месяцев назад
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
@steveriggenbach90
@steveriggenbach90 2 года назад
Great video. If you don’t have anything, I’ve used a very small piece of vbelt. It mimics the plastic stop. I’ll admit, first time, many years ago. Fibers got stuck and had to remove the muffler. Makes you remember LOL.
@Demon-rq5de
@Demon-rq5de Год назад
Thanks. Very well explained
@nfuryboss
@nfuryboss 2 месяца назад
Great presentation!
@ghislaingiguere8974
@ghislaingiguere8974 Год назад
Quel bon vidéo !!! Très instructif lâche pas ton bon travail Cheers
@DdD-pi8jw
@DdD-pi8jw 3 месяца назад
Good video. I prefer a cotton or poly rope.
@gordsmith7708
@gordsmith7708 6 месяцев назад
Great video man ! Cheers 🍻
@MateuszBPM
@MateuszBPM Год назад
hi , you described everything very well . I also plan to record a film of this type of blocking the piston, here for Polish viewers. very good job, regards.😎🖐👍
@sanctealphonse4510
@sanctealphonse4510 Год назад
I've found a sharp whack is better than slow steady pressure. I've bent a connecting rod once on a chainsaw by using constant force with rope in the cylinder. A strong impact would work or your ratchet but with sharp quick blows, not steady pressure.
@thomaswalker842
@thomaswalker842 Год назад
Awesome video thanks for the in depth dest
@mikeholt7087
@mikeholt7087 9 месяцев назад
Great vid. But to keep risk to a minimum why not take exhaust off and use a piston stop or even piston stop in place of spark plug.
@fer7ll
@fer7ll Год назад
Such a teacher!!! Thank you very much 💜🙏
@ArdGeal
@ArdGeal 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video-I watched someone elses video and they just stuffed the rope in with no care... I used to own many two stroke Yam RD 125/250/350LC/YPVS back in the day, which I stripped the top ends on, and my first thought was "huh- what about the transfer/exhaust ports!" Suppose if you were careful you could use a non metallic pick and feel for the top edges of the transfer/exhaust ports as you move the piston from TDC, then measure the stroke to TDC.... That'll let you know the height(rope thickness) you have to work with. Or find TDC, drop the piston 5/16" and cram a 1/4" rope in and it should be good to go.... (Ports would act as a guillotine on a rope I reckon and then you are in deep sh*t!!!)
@fire7765
@fire7765 2 года назад
Don you can use a endoscope to look inside the cylinder if you have one.
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
yes u can
@TheReal1953
@TheReal1953 2 года назад
To avoid the problem of a rope finding a port, I use a V-belt, cut, that will just push through the spark plug hole. Still a good idea though to know where your piston position is.
@fdognini
@fdognini 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video
@GmGarlo
@GmGarlo 2 года назад
Ton of info in 18 minutes!!! LIKE LIKE LIKE !!!
@bmp0149
@bmp0149 2 года назад
Suggestion to remove the rope, turn the crank to unload the rope, just a tad, rope comes out easy and you dont risk ripping bits off. Just one question - why use such a big diameter rope ? I've always used thick starter cord (like 3/16" 5mm) which is easier to feed into cylinder and coil around the edge of cylinder (thats my aim to put an even load around the piston crown)... I guess the rope puts the piston a bit futher away from tdc = more leverage on crank, cant think why else ? Nice video, very informative. I much prefer the nylon rope method to anything else including plastic piston stop.
@mitchz.6234
@mitchz.6234 2 года назад
Great tips and tricks Don....thanks much!!!
@jakester455
@jakester455 4 месяца назад
Excellent, Dony, thanks! I was wondering if it's okay to just pull the muffler and put a soft wood dowel into the exhaust port? Or would that cock the piston too much compared to the rope?
@thomasroche164
@thomasroche164 Год назад
Awesome video!
@brittweir8844
@brittweir8844 Год назад
Fantastic job sir, I searched for quite a while before I found this.👍. My Stihl ms360 came with a lockup tool,but I’m not sure if it is safe😃
@hphillips7425
@hphillips7425 2 года назад
Good tip and explained well
@landmark4928
@landmark4928 Год назад
I've been allways lucky now I can be gauranteed thanks to cool
@pwleppa
@pwleppa 2 года назад
Excellent video. Thank you. 👍
@curious-homebody
@curious-homebody 2 года назад
I shared this with the Home Depot Rental community. You brought up many points that I know will help others in the future. I'm guilty of using impacts and learned early on the hard way. We live and learn. 🖖🏼
@williamwhite9321
@williamwhite9321 2 года назад
Awesome information as always 👍
@08crna
@08crna Год назад
Great video
@carlsmallmotors1114
@carlsmallmotors1114 2 года назад
Love the videos
@HomeImProveMentHow
@HomeImProveMentHow Год назад
Thank you you have explained this very well I appreciate You doing this video, This is not my expertise. ... I'll be back by for now. Can I just picked up A? Stilh ms180. Chainsaw.
@ryanbruner8928
@ryanbruner8928 2 года назад
Great video! I've always used a nylon rope,I think I've only used a dedicated piston stop 3 or 4 times,ever?
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 2 года назад
Yes
@billarroo1
@billarroo1 2 года назад
Interesting information, THANKS
@alexk6745
@alexk6745 11 месяцев назад
What about 4 stroke engine with valves. Is it safe to use rope? If so, at what cycles it is safe to use it?
@bobgallerie3694
@bobgallerie3694 2 месяца назад
bought a nylon piston stop for $8 used it several times paid for itself
@fidelcantu5735
@fidelcantu5735 2 года назад
what's up donny I have subscribed to your channel for some time and I had some doubts about the angles when you sharpen the chainsaw chain First of all, I know and the manual indicates that the angle of the disc must be between 55 to 60, what would happen if the angle was very low, say 40, or very high, say 70? In the chain cutting angle, almost usually it should go to 30, what would happen if we make it higher or lower, say 35 or 15? thank you dony I hope and you can answer me....
@eddieb9110
@eddieb9110 Год назад
Can you use 550 cord for a small saw like a 355T?
@Fallingleaftreeservice
@Fallingleaftreeservice 4 месяца назад
Do you have to keep on the clutch to remove the fly wheel?
@scarney29
@scarney29 5 месяцев назад
Exceed video, thanks!
2 года назад
If I remember correctly, You can remove clutch with impact driver without using rope or piston stopper.
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
you can and i have to admit I have done it myself but there is a risk of breaking the key that is built into the flywheel
@JimCove-y1j
@JimCove-y1j 9 месяцев назад
Awesome as Always ! TYTY
@beliddel
@beliddel 2 года назад
Don, One question for you on the metal piston stops. I’ve used those on some saws and they did result in a very small divit mark in the top of the piston, but didn’t remove any material. Wondering if that actually causes an potential issue, and if that’s not the damage you were indicating could be concern with a metal piston stop, could you explain how those could cause more significant damage? Could it possibly deform or crack the piston? Thanks in advance for your feedback….again, excellent video for us chainsaw geeks!
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 2 года назад
You are fine, but I've seen cracked pistons caused by the piston stops, so take care. I have used an old starter cord for like 40 years, as much as I could stuff into the cylinder, but always made sure the exhaust port was closed before inserting it.
@JP-mz5rz
@JP-mz5rz 10 месяцев назад
With my ms194t i just use impact and it comes right off ?
@clintbliss2046
@clintbliss2046 4 месяца назад
My 272xp the nut is frozen onto the shaft. Turning it clockwise with rope in the cylinder with a breaker bar the piston broke. It was a perfectly good saw that I just wanted to put a new sprocket on. F me
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 2 года назад
A impact will remove both without anything in the cylinder.
@jonbui1904
@jonbui1904 2 года назад
can you use the chain brake to tighten the clutch ?
@donyboy73
@donyboy73 2 года назад
no
@brettgallagher259
@brettgallagher259 2 года назад
Can’t you use an impact drill ?
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 года назад
That yellow rope is polypropylene.
@gr7637
@gr7637 2 года назад
👍👍👍👍
@Pete.Ty1
@Pete.Ty1 2 года назад
👍👍👍
@ericvaughn1126
@ericvaughn1126 2 года назад
Thanks for the tips, Don! I've used rope a fair number of times and never got one stuck, but I'll be wiser and start with the piston above the ports next time. Appreciate your time, effort and commitment to educating your subscribers!
@barnabyjones7823
@barnabyjones7823 2 года назад
I just use my battery impact.
@brianbanks3044
@brianbanks3044 2 года назад
Love the cutaway view...in auto school, our teacher had a bunch of these and it gave everyone a clear view of what happens inside or the part...great teaching video Don!!!
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 2 года назад
I've done it decades ago, when I changed valve springs on my old car.
@christophercolt1361
@christophercolt1361 10 месяцев назад
Dony! Can you show the use of the plastic Stihl Piston Stop in action in your Cross- Sectioned Chainsaw Model?
@fredrockall4619
@fredrockall4619 2 года назад
Is the rope nylon or poly?
@Allegheny-q3j
@Allegheny-q3j Год назад
Your video is worth two dozen videos I've seen before
@100vg
@100vg 2 года назад
Thanks for mentioning the Impact Wrench because I was going to ask. What are your thoughts about using heat shrink tubing on the rope tip instead of melting and squeezing while turning to shape a pointy tip? About an inch (25mm) should do it, if it's OK. Seems that would further minimize strands left behind and also ease insertion, as long as the rope isn't too big so the heat shrink doesn't catch and pull off inside. Understanding that a piston stop tool would be better, but just asking. I have a new, so far unused 20 inch chainsaw, but I'll have to work with the clutch some day. I also have a 4 cycle Troy-Bilt Powerhead with weed eater, edger, pole saw and tiller attachments which will need work some day. This was a great tutorial, Don! The cutaway really made things clear. That was genius! You covered every step and every possibility. Thank you!
@nidalsultan
@nidalsultan Год назад
I just broke an echo cs4400 piston while using the same way. I didn't use the metal piston stop thinking that the rope is safer. However the clutch was too hard that the piston got cracked :( let me know your advise plz and if it had occurred with you before.
@EVILDR235
@EVILDR235 2 года назад
Unrelated question. I have a Briggs 6hp 190 Intek engine. I don't want to open it if I don't have to. Does it have a metal camshaft gear and cam lobes or the prone to fail plastic ones ? Did they make both at some point and if Briggs did, can the plastic parts be replaced with the all metal ones ? Thank you in advance.
@vetterfellow
@vetterfellow 2 года назад
Thanks, DB73, Great info, and how to video 👍
@cutlets2118
@cutlets2118 4 месяца назад
Cheez. A lot of concern for nothing. Take the pull cord cover off, put a wrench on the fly wheel, loosen the clutch nut… done.
@robertwilliams3983
@robertwilliams3983 Год назад
Some of the repair videos on Utube say be sure the piston is in the down position & insert the rope. I did this once & got the rope hung in the cylinder. I was afraid of breaking the rings. I kept moving the piston up & down & finally got the rope free.
@kristmadsen
@kristmadsen Год назад
Any tips for getting a stuck clutch off a stihl saw? I had a 2' breaker bar on the wrench and couldnt get the thing off.
@darrenoftheNorth
@darrenoftheNorth 2 года назад
Great video thanks. Love the t shirt !!
@toshivirgongullie1831
@toshivirgongullie1831 Год назад
Best explanation 👍👍
@johnkosheluk1041
@johnkosheluk1041 2 года назад
or take the recoil off
@joeortiz3455
@joeortiz3455 2 года назад
Well demonstated!
@xmanb8193
@xmanb8193 2 года назад
👍
@Jezebel_Cat
@Jezebel_Cat 2 года назад
Good video
@voyt5729
@voyt5729 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@robertmailhos8159
@robertmailhos8159 2 года назад
😎👍😎
@beliddel
@beliddel 2 года назад
Awesome video, well planned and executed. I’ve learned the hard way all the pitfalls and tips that you covered. I’ve never come across a video on this topic that was more thorough. Wish it had been made before I started tinkering w/ saws. I will definitely bookmark it and share with others. Terrific job.
@stevenkurinec4194
@stevenkurinec4194 Год назад
Hey Don. I am one of those that found your video after getting the rope caught. I took off the muffler and found the tip of the rope sheared off. However, I cannot get the other end of the rope out of the spark plug hole and the cylinder wont turn. How does one go about taking apart the cylinder to get the rope out?
@jacksonjoe7456
@jacksonjoe7456 11 месяцев назад
Did yah figure it out
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