Is ABA Torture? 

jai prakash Singh, Autistic voices are left out, WHY?

@@emmarose4234 Because in their eyes we're not human, haven't you noticed yet? they may CLAIM we're human to them, but actions speak louder than words and they sure as hell don't treat us like they would treat people whoose humanity they actually recognize.

Me too!

@@teaartist6455 playing victim should have a base for this. Whats yours?

@@kamilosieglewski2129 Just to correct the narrator and answer your question, not all of us are sharing opinions, we are sharing scientific facts, I'll share a few here. Each time ABA overstimulates a person tension develops in the muscles. Sustaining tension in muscles causes chronic pain, then when you teach them to keep overstimulating themselves they take the risk of developing chronic pain disorders. Not good! Fight or flight produces adrenaline, producing too much adrenaline and cortisol causes hormonal imbalances. With hormones and neurons interacting with the body organs hormonal imbalances damage the body organs, too much adrenaline causes things like schizophrenia. Anxiety in general increases the heart rate and effects blood pressure levels. Once again, not good! Do you think children know about anything that's happening beneath their skin in their body and brain? The nervous system is directly connected to the brain through the spinal cord, scientists who are actually up to date claim there's approximately 100,000,000,000 neurons in the nervous system that they're describing it as a second brain and is the size of a cat or dog's brain. As ABA practices damage the immune system the children become more susceptible to sicknesses and diseases, especially associated with age. Again, not good! Due to variation in the hippocampus autistic people are more vulnerable to depression. When people are in depression there is a reduction to metabolism resulting in food being turned into fat instead of energy which is why depressed people snack more (because the food did not turn into energy) and increases fat storage. The body will feed off of sugary cells before calories and fat storage which pushes children in the direction of developing type 2 diabetes later in life, especially when they use sugary foods as positive reinforcement. Not good once again! I and any other up to date scientists can provide countless damages that are happening beneath the children's skin, as long as ABA continues being regardless of the harm it's doing beneath the surface I will not support it. Doing all of this to children as young as 2 years old, how much of an impact do you think this has on human development? ABA has not done a single longitudinal study of its methods and is entirely ignorant of the results we see later in life. Universities have investigated the results and suspicions of today's ABA, they tested lots of autistic people, results showed that those who were subjected to ABA are still 86% more likely to meet the criteria of PTSD and nearly 50% of the people they tested are actually diagnosed with PTSD. Those tested who were not subjected to ABA were found PTSD symptom free. That doesn't look good to me! Where you say it depends on the therapists' skills, you have an issue here. The therapists' skills being so low shows ABA does not have training programs that actually makes people suitable for the job, how do you validate ABA employing people who are not even educated to do the job with such low skills as acceptable? It is disgraceful that practitioners are not even educated in psychology itself, hardly any ABA workers have had the ability to answer questions about autism and tell me who Albert Bandura is. The very few who could did not learn through ABA. Autism is not even involved in ABA education which brings you another issue, how do you validate an organisation calling itself "The Golden Standard for Autism" when they don't even know about autism? Are you beginning to see why therapies which actually are ABA misrepresent the criticisms towards ABA? ABA is the behaviourist approach in psychology, just like every other approach it has its fundamental assumptions. • Only observable and measurable behaviours are to be included (that means feelings, emotions, thoughts, hormones, internal constructs are to be ignored) What a harmful practice it is to ignore feelings and emotions causing mental health disorders just because you can't measure them? • All behaviours are learned from experience. (I never learned how to have meltdowns from experience, more science fiction) • We come in this world as a clean slate that our genes have no influence on our behaviour. (Autism is primarily genetic, Autism greatly influences my behaviour, so I would say our genes certainly do influence our behavior, more science fiction in ABA). • Non-human animals are valid test subjects as they follow the same learning principles. (That's an aporling comparison, do we study disabilities and mental health disorders in non-human animals? Comparing us to rats and pigeons only shows ABA still sees us as subhumans, ABA less effective than dog training). ABA is founded by Ole Ivar Lovaas on out of date science and a platform of ableism, ABA is still out of date as it is contradictory to all other scientific fields, especially the claim it's harmless, it's clearly not a harmless therapy.

Do you think it might be that because 12 years ago, ABA was largely unregulated, and maybe you didn't get therapy from a credentialled practitioner in a legitimate ABA setting? Do you remember the name of the facility and practitioner?

@@pardonmyfrench4760There more than ten thousand abusive cases of ABA therapy which isn’t good these are testimonies think about that.

justin setzer, yes it is.

@justin setzer Why do you not listen to those that are actually affected by it? Do you earn money by doing so or does it just protect your conscience?

@justin setzer It may be that they weren't as cruel to you as they are to autistic children because they can actually read your body language and thus gauge how you are affected. autistic and allistic (people without autism) body language is fundamentally very different which is part of what makes communication between the two riddled with misunderstandings (autists can typically read other autists like you'd read other allistic people). The people I saw didn't just "say they hated it", what they were talking about qualifies as abuse and was in many cases a erasure of personhood and concept of self and we're not talking about one or two autistic people here, but about many, many people that all suffered tremendously. THAT is why I care, because many, many people that have been hurt extremely badly are simply dismissed as "not being autistic enough", "not being the people it should be used for", "being too autistic to know what they are talking about" and "talking about methods that were only used in the past". They aren't just used in the past. Autistic people see the same suffering in todays ABA instructive and educational videos, ignored by the "therapist" and possibly not even recognized. Who are you to say that they WEREN'T affected as they said they were? What makes you assume you know better about a person's experience and mental state than that person themselves?

Yes its horrible being forced to look in someones eyes and quiet hands it is hell it is a living hell its basically taking away all of their traits of autism

@@teaartist6455 I'm so sorry. I am sorry. My heart breaks.

Fucking this 👏👏

This answer is ridiculous. No one can read minds. If you cannot talk whether by sign language, tablet or actual talking, how can we help you?

​@@sugahoney89You don't need ABA to learn these things. Speach therapy for one is a completely different (and valuable) thing

Your point?

So what did you find abusive?

Wick, thank for writing in. I appreciate you calling me on my ableist tone, I think one of the hardest things about ableism for me is that I can't always see it for myself. I am so fortunate to have good friends on the spectrum who will call me on it because they know I want to learn. I can only tell you that I bring my honest self to what I say and there are many parents like me who were told our children would never be able to communicate, so when we meet people on the spectrum who can communicate we are often overwhelmed with the joy of possibilities for our child. We learn. I am learning. Thank you for adding your viewpoint, it is critical, and I appreciate it.

@@AutismLive I'm sorry for my tone. You genuinely do love your child and just want the best for them! That's very clear. I went through hell myself to get my son a diagnosis and one for myself. We're high IQ, low support needs, but darn if that hasn't been a hindrance in getting help. It's such a fine balance! I always like to remind parents of autistic children that American Sign Language and alternative communication is valid and to explore all areas of language. I have a non-verbal friend who is the most eloquent writer, but cannot speak more than sounds. Or Deaf friends who tell stories so beautiful (visually and ASL) they make me cry.

Autism is a disability, but disability is part of the natural human experience and not something that should be viewed through a deficit lens.

Caroline you said that so well!

what trauma are you taliing about, she speak about HER son, her son is that HER SON. Is not your child, you do not live with him, you do NOT know him. So you better shut your mouth. A child with ASD is a Child with ASD, NOT COMPARABLE WITH OTHER CHILD WITH ASD. is unique and his situation and the interaction with her mother is unique, so do NOT MAKE YOUR WORTHLESS OPINION

@@rosebean7331 Why do you all act so threatened when we expose the truth that you just use us as a money making opportunity? I'll share a bit more about your financial model. Abstract The “replication crisis” describes recent difficulties in replicating studies in various scientific fields, most notably psychology. The available evidence primarily documents replication failures for group research designs. However, we argue that contingencies of publication bias that led to the “replication crisis” also operate on applied behavior analysis (ABA) researchers who use single-case research designs (SCRD). This bias strongly favors publication of SCRD studies that show strong experimental effect, and disfavors publication of studies that show less robust effect. The resulting research literature may unjustifiably inflate confidence about intervention effects, limit researchers’ ability to delineate intervention boundary conditions, and diminish the credibility of our science. To counter problems of publication bias in ABA, we recommend that journals that publish SCRD research establish journal standards for publication of noneffect studies; that our research community adopt open sharing of SCRD protocols and data; and that members of our community routinely publish systematic literature reviews that include gray (i.e., unpublished) research. Conclusion The ABA community is not immune from the pitfalls of publication bias commonly associated with group comparison research. Contingencies of reinforcement that contribute to the file drawer effect among researchers in all disciplines also operate on applied behavior analysts. There is evidence that researcher bias may be endemic within our current scientific and publication practices, which negatively affect the scientific integrity of our field as a whole. We have offered modest and preliminary suggestions for researchers and the research community to guard against publication bias with the intention of stimulating the ABA community to adopt, improve, or expand upon them. Discounting or ignoring the problem likely will diminish the credibility of our findings among our scientific colleagues, negatively affect consumers of our services, and undermine public confidence in behavior analytic treatments. Conversely, addressing publication bias and related issues likely will advance scientific knowledge about behavior, improve consumer outcomes associated with behavioral treatments, and promote public confidence in the technology of behavior. (Tincani, 2019) Published online 2019 Mar 18

Here is reality this therapy is a load of snake oil. It was started by a man who attempted to make a utopia and failed and was a known serial abuser. His first two victims were children. He was not legally acredited and had no license to practice medicine. He tortured homosexuals and other institutional patients. His practices and data were thrown out not only for being outright lies but for the ethical violations. So no don't you dare to these people not to speak!

Your comment really helped. I have a 3 year old son who is non verbal autistic. He is the light of my life and I was put in a position to choose between preschool and therapies or ABA. Couldn't combine any, that was my first red flag. Then they said 40 hours a week or nothing. Luckily by listening to Autistic adults and doing lots of research I never put him in it. I'm very sorry you have experience these things. It's something I very much hope to prevent my son from having to deal with. Thank you for sharing, I know it's not always easy but your voice is so important to the community and parents of autistic children like me. ❤️

Rachael, thank you for listening to Autistic voices!

Figgus Riggs Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and opinions. Our son is 8 years old now. We did do ABA Therapy for approx. 3 years. I slowly saw the light in my sweet boy’s eyes dim. I also just about had an owner of a clinic shut down. He’s mostly non-verbal. He came home with a large bruise on his back one day. The owner (BACB) lies to me about how he got it. She actually fucking said that she would tell Child Protective Services that he came into her clinic with that bruise ! She said that because he could not talk, she would tell them and they would believe her. But she’s so crazy that she forgot she had already texted me a lame explanation of how he got bruised the day it happened! I didn’t believe her when she did explain why he had the bruises. It didn’t add up. I had her lame reason for now he got bruised in my text messages. So I took him to his doctor to look at the bruise as well as her reason for how he got bruised. She said he slid down his chair to the floor! Doctor said that wasn’t true. That he had a blunt blow to his back. It was obvious. The doctor had to call Child Protective Services on the clinic and owner. Because it was apparent she wasn’t telling the truth. That’s when the crazy owner told me during a phone conversation that she would tell Protective Services he came to the clinic with the bruise ! And that I did it !!! It was a nightmare. However, I wasn’t too shook because she had texted me the day it happened with the reason on how it happened. She must have forgotten that, lol. At any rate, this fake woman was a pretty blonde cheerleader type. She would brag and brag to all of us parents. Telling all of us parents that the kids were hitting their milestones. That they were making headway and doing very well. I asked her to give me some of the programs she was doing with my son. I tried them at home and he couldn’t accomplish them. This was BEFORE the bruise. So I asked her to slow his programming down because he wasn’t hitting those milestones at home. She told me that was my fault and I must be doing something wrong !!!! I told her that wasn’t true. And if he couldn’t do what she said he learned outside of her walls, then he has not accomplished those goals. She got nasty with me. First time I saw her going from sweet and caring to a nasty witch. Her potty training method was horrendously abusive and reminded me of training a dog. It had to be humiliating to those poor children. When it came to my son’s time to potty trained, I asked her to try a different method. That I didn’t want him taught with the method she chose for her clinic. She straight up told me no. That this was the only method she uses and the most accomplished. I told her under no cir did I want him trained her way. That there are plenty of other potty training methods we could use. She got argumentative with me and straight up said she would not potty train him at all. That I can do it myself. She guaranteed he would be 10 before I had him trained. Let me tell you this. I had him potty trained within that year !!! You know what’s sad? Many of the kids who were in her program back then still are not potty trained. I believe it’s because she degraded them so badly that they have PTSD now. I pulled him out right away when he got hurt there. I had a friend taking her exam to become a BCBA. She asked me if I ever read the code of ethics established for them to run an ABA Clinic. I didn’t know they existed until my friend told me. If you go to BACB.com , click on Ethics, you see the 3-4 page list of their code of ethics they MUST follow. As I read them, I realized she had broken many of those codes. Like the potty training one for instance. The family must be involved with every program selected. If the guardian asks for the clinic to try a different method, they must do that. That’s just one Code she violated. I had every email from her saved from when he started there ... thank God. She got slapped with heavy fines. Every guardian taking their kid to ABA needs to read the Code of Ethics. They would learn the rights and wrongs.

I'm trying to learn about ABA and that was one thing I wondered about--if all of it is 40 hrs a week. There are so many techniques within ABA and not much description if (and how) it can be used for a recently diagnosed mid-20s 'high-functioning' (but low-functioning) Asperger's person.

This is just the skimming the surface. The sociopath abused two young children in a failed attempt to create utopia and conducted unethical experiments on the first two victims. He was also known to electrocute, physically assault, starve, and deny water to homosexuals and institutional patients most of them children.

There is nothing wrong with that. And if your child is happy and you are happy that is the end of the discussion. The point I always want to make is that while doing ABA in the long run made my child VERY happy, there were times he found it very frustrating. Many parents see their child cry and want to stop therapy. I understand that, I felt that way too. But when our child learns to walk ...they don't just walk. They go through a really scary period of time when they fall, bump their heads, cry, even hurt themselves. We all dislike that time, but I have never met a parent who has picked up their child and said, No more, he's fine the way he is, we're just going to let him crawl. We don't do that, we push through the transition to get to the other side, because we know it's going to lead to good things and this time will be reduced to a vague memory. I want parents to know that ABA is similar. My son did 5 years of intensive ABA. He remembers very little. He remembers a hand full of therapists playing board games with him. That's what he remembers. I remember it being rough some times, but it was clearly worth it. His life is full now. He has friends, gets good grades, goes to a college prep high school with no supports. ABA made these things possible. Is he still quirky? You Better Believe IT!!! Is he funny? YES!! Is he happy? Most of the time! (He is a teenager) Is he able to talk about it when he's not happy? YES! I just want parents to know that's possible. Ultimately you get to decide what is right for you and your child. I truly respect that. I just hate it when parents come back to me and say, "I didn't know."

Autism Live, listen to actual Autistic people when they tell you ABA hurts!

@@AutismLive Are you sure he's happy and not just faking the way NTs show happiness because that's what's expected of him and what gets him rewards?

Basically anything that sociaty wants aba makes you stop stimming aka hand flapping and rocking Wich is soothing. I noticed since I felt ok to stim I've been able to cope way better. Aba dosent help I've watched sessions where the child was overstimulated in melt down mode crying in destress and the doctor just creates more stimulation by flicking on and off the light and making her do a puzzle instead of helping her calm down

@@AutismLive there a difference between learning how to walk and being forced to endour too much stimulation to where it's painful.

What??? First of all, how much experience do you have with ASD, then how many children with ASD have you work with? How many BCBA have you work with? How many other therapies have you used? and more important? WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THIS, WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU HAVE?

@@rosebean7331 i am autistic and have been through ABA therapy myself. I was way too young when I went through ABA to have any personal opinions on it as I don’t remember anything, but we need to listen to the voices of the autistic community, almost all of whom are firmly against ABA.

@@namitaseshadri2638 you are not representing the "community of ASD", also you are JUST YOU, and you should speak only in behalf of YOU. ABA is science, and is not a person. There is your autism betraying you, second Your parents were in charge of whatever happened to you, and surely they were trying to do their best. Obviously, you cannot prove that without whatever help they tried, you would had a better outcome. Applied Behaviour Analysis is used in everwhere and anything, so are you gonna smash Marketing companies and making them accountable for torturing us all? c'mon. ABA is a highly comprehensive tool to teach and shape behaviours. As anything in the world, it can be use for good or for bad. There are bad therapists, yes, they are bad therapist, they are not ABA. Do you understand that? a gun is a gun, can be used to self defense or to kill. The gun is not bad or good. it is a gun, and is extremely effective when used. same as a fork, or any thing, they have not intentions or feelings, they can be used and applied, period.

@@rosebean7331 It's disgraceful ABA ignores all internal constructs and does not prioritize health. Not all of us are sharing opinions, we are sharing scientific facts, I'll share a few here. Each time ABA overstimulates a person tension develops in the muscles. Sustaining tension in muscles causes chronic pain, then when you teach them to keep overstimulating themselves they take the risk of developing chronic pain disorders. Not good! Fight or flight produces adrenaline, producing too much adrenaline and cortisol causes hormonal imbalances. With hormones and neurons interacting with the body organs hormonal imbalances damage the body organs, too much adrenaline causes things like schizophrenia. Anxiety in general increases the heart rate and effects blood pressure levels. Once again, not good! Do you think children know about anything that's happening beneath their skin in their body and brain? The nervous system is directly connected to the brain through the spinal cord, scientists who are actually up to date claim there's approximately 100,000,000,000 neurons in the nervous system that they're describing it as a second brain and is the size of a cat or dog's brain. As ABA practices damage the immune system the children become more susceptible to sicknesses and diseases, especially associated with age. Again, not good! Due to variation in the hippocampus autistic people are more vulnerable to depression. When people are in depression there is a reduction to metabolism resulting in food being turned into fat instead of energy which is why depressed people snack more (because the food did not turn into energy) and increases fat storage. The body will feed off of sugary cells before calories and fat storage which pushes children in the direction of developing type 2 diabetes later in life, especially when they use sugary foods as positive reinforcement. Not good once again! I and any other up to date scientists can provide countless damages that are happening beneath the children's skin, as long as ABA continues being regardless of the harm it's doing beneath the surface I will not support it. Doing all of this to children as young as 2 years old, how much of an impact do you think this has on human development? ABA has not done a single longitudinal study of its methods and is entirely ignorant of the results we see later in life. Universities have investigated the results and suspicions of today's ABA, they tested lots of autistic people, results showed that those who were subjected to ABA are still 86% more likely to meet the criteria of PTSD and nearly 50% of the people they tested are actually diagnosed with PTSD. Those tested who were not subjected to ABA were found PTSD symptom free. That doesn't look good to me! Where you say it depends on the therapists' skills, you have an issue here. The therapists' skills being so low shows ABA does not have training programs that actually makes people suitable for the job, how do you validate ABA employing people who are not even educated to do the job with such low skills as acceptable? It is disgraceful that practitioners are not even educated in psychology itself, hardly any ABA workers have had the ability to answer questions about autism and tell me who Albert Bandura is. The very few who could did not learn through ABA. Autism is not even involved in ABA education which brings you another issue, how do you validate an organisation calling itself "The Golden Standard for Autism" when they don't even know about autism? Are you beginning to see why therapies which actually are ABA misrepresent the criticisms towards ABA? ABA is the behaviourist approach in psychology, just like every other approach it has its fundamental assumptions. • Only observable and measurable behaviours are to be included (that means feelings, emotions, thoughts, hormones, internal constructs are to be ignored) What a harmful practice it is to ignore feelings and emotions causing mental health disorders just because you can't measure them? • All behaviours are learned from experience. (I never learned how to have meltdowns from experience, more science fiction) • We come in this world as a clean slate that our genes have no influence on our behaviour. (Autism is primarily genetic, Autism greatly influences my behaviour, so I would say our genes certainly do influence our behavior, more science fiction in ABA). • Non-human animals are valid test subjects as they follow the same learning principles. (That's an aporling comparison, do we study disabilities and mental health disorders in non-human animals? Comparing us to rats and pigeons only shows ABA still sees us as subhumans, ABA less effective than dog training). ABA is founded by Ole Ivar Lovaas on out of date science and a platform of ableism, ABA is still out of date as it is contradictory to all other scientific fields, especially the claim it's harmless, it's clearly not a harmless therapy.

you do not have a child with ASD, then do not voice out your "OPINION', it makes you looks stupid. How disgraceful comment!! would you eras it.

do no pour you worhless opion here, if you do not have a child with ASD or special needs, shut up

Yeah I never had aba just other kinds of therapy but the only reason I can function as a funtaning member of society is because I myself pushed myself into social gatherings at my own speed that is how I got a job and I didn't need aba or any programs for it. Hell I been in some programs and all they do is baby you and I got fed up and was like nah I'm doing this by myself. Also let's not forget about Temple grandin an autistic indavidual who all she needed was a mom who didn't give up on her

No body should voice their opinion on Applied Behaviour Analys if they do not know what Applied Behaviour Analysis is. Right??? Like why someone should be voicing their opinion about Pedro Castillo government policies outcomes in Peru, if they do not live there, or even speak spanish. Unless, they want to be attacked by someone that knows about that. so, you first tell me what is ABA? like I saw all that people talking bad about ABA. Hey!!! is not a person! ABA has not concious, she is not walking out the street and becoming wealthy at your expense! So, first define Applied Behavior Analysis, then we can talk

@@rosebean7331 Stop being a hypocrite sharing your opinion denying what ABA actually is then.

​@@rosebean7331You need more fullstops on your sentence, it's hard to understand. ABA does not teach a child to communicate. That's one problem with it. It just teaches compliance through punishment and a deminishment of identity. Many autistic people, even without ANY therapy are still able to communicate. They can read, type, speak like many other people. Non verbal autism doesn't apply to all people with autism. Equally, you fundamentally misunderstand that autism is not about intelligence. If you understand what ABA is, then an autistic person can as well

@@rosebean7331 Again why do not address the use of the shock devices that have gotten patients killed and left long term injuries and long term health problems? Why do not address Aba's contined use of denial of food and water to patients?

I worked with some one highfunctioning on ABA therapy and I tired my best not to make it hell. I was more there to help her with socializing and being able to handle losing and following rules, when playing with others also using her mouth filter.

Mine was hell, I'm sure not every ABA is horrible but mine... I've still got nightmares from mine, just being yelled at, scolded, not being able to stim and having constant meltdowns... worst years of my life, if I ever get the chance to have a child and they are Neuroatupical as myself I will refuse to put them through that

Great, except for the functioning labels and the bashing of “low-functioning” Autistics.

Not bashing them, no one should be treated that way and unfortunately the ones on the low end get it worse when it's super bad and it's awful... wish there wasn't a label but unfortunately that's the only way to now to distinguish between Aspergers and full blown autism

​@@mariaj4573 Both Asperger's and Autism are autism and the spectrum isn't a line with two points on the end. Also functioning labels have their roots in Nazism and are deeply problematic. Not to mention wildly inaccurate. Autistic is more inclusive. If you want to distinguish between speaking and nonspeaking autistic, just say nonverbal, but even then it's not really necessary most of the time

Exactly I have a mostly non verbal friend who can cominicate with body language and noise you can tell if he's upset or happy you just gotta pay attention

Get him aac omg

THIS!!!!!!!

Gabriel, any teaching method can be if done incorrectly - but that doesn't make all teaching torture. ABA is a teaching method, yes, some people have and continue to do it incorrectly - absolutely, and we need to stop that - but it is not the ABA that is the problem, it is bad training and people who should not be in the job.

@@AutismLive But the majority of them do not know what they´re doing. and if they *are* trying to heIp, they actuaIIy do the opposite effect! lt takes *actuaI* disabIed/autistic peopIe to speak up and not a *singIe one* of them Iike ABA. They cIaim that ABA is controversiaI and that it causes more harm than good. and they care more about heIping the parents than the actuaI chiId. Not to mention ABA aIso sides with JRC, apparentIy, and JRC does nothing BUT hurt disabIed students. *24/7* ! Five peopIe (at Ieast) have *died* in JRC and ABA seems to support that too. With aII due respect, ma’am, ABA needs to shut down.

Try ones from the Vince Carbone clinic.

I live in Canada, and only a certify BCBA is allow to hold and develop a program for ASD at home. Applied Behaviour Analysis is just the intake of data, tracking and monitoring the results of whatever strategy is being used. of course a BCBA has a lot of amazing strategies in he pocket. But ABA is not a bad o good person. It is so scientific, that normal people do not understand that. ABA is a process, is not a person. So, you do not have to have a "reservations" about ABA. Indeed, floortime is not science. However, if you have a trained BCBA, she can see you working with a child on his first session with you, she can observe you, she can write down many different behaviour, and create in paper the strategies you are using to get your goals with your client. Then, she can start to take data on wheter your strategies are having positive or negative results whenever you are working with that child. Using a track form sheet. After 2 to 4 weeks, she can analysis the data of your strategies applied to that child, and compare the baseline with the new results. Then you can see, if your strateges are being effective or not. AND THAT IS ABA. PURE SCIENCE. Once you can see, which strategy works better, or works faster or just do not work, then you and the BCBA can make a decision, whether to keep working with those strategies or to modify them. And this goes on and on. ABA is the analysis of data. Aba is not sitting a child and punish him. What??? where is the science part on that???? So, people should not talk about ABA if they do not understand the core of what ABA is. Yes, anybody can use ABA, for good or for bad. Right now, CNN use THEIR NETWORK TO DAMAGE SOCIEY, well, they have the money, they use the network. Nodody is sayin, o.... networks are bad. or OOO Networks are good. Its depends on what hands are. Surely some people do not know how to work with children, there are bad teachers, there are bad Floortime therapist, that just wants to take money from clients. They are bad doctors, bad police man, etc.

@@rosebean7331 Thanks for your input. Same in the UK. I received training from Vince Carbone himself. Then our team had consultations and visits by one of the BCBA. Works very well. However it's all about the people providing ABA, not ABA itself.

@@rosebean7331 Until ABA updates its scientific methods, its functions of behavior, and incorporates modern day psychology - including neurology, child development, educational psychology, and other vital research - it cannot be considered to be a safe, effective, or ethical field. There should be something like this on every consent form: ABA therapy focuses on the behavior of your child but does not take into account modern research in neurology, biophysical factors in behavior, neurodevelopmental conditions, trauma, or child development. The methodology behind applied behavior analysis was founded in the ’50s and ’60s and your analyst’s education may not have incorporated more modern discoveries in psychology or behaviorism.

The problem isn't ABA but some who use it without knowing how. Those are dangerous, ABA is not.

Hi Tyler I have a 3 1/2 year old that just started on his 2nd week of ABA. Now to my understanding and what I seen so far. Is that my son is actually listening to demands and requests. Starting to really start to use his sounds and trying to pronounce his words. He does enjoy going to ABA, he’s clapping his hands when he arrives and it was hard to leave because he wants to play so more but now doesn’t give any trouble when doing so. Of course now he’s in his own routine, but the one thing I’m noticing so far is patience. I just want to know since everything is going good so far. Do these outcomes or doings are a result of forcing a kid to do something? I just want to gain a perspective from an adult. Now as an adult, did you ever take a look into ABA therapy again and see why it didn’t work or why it doesn’t work at all? Sorry to ask. I don’t know any adults on the spectrum.

@@sixsevenonelove There is something we call fake ABA. It's still a minority but they practice play therapy and don't suppress stimming (only redirect it if it's something dangerous). It's best to speak about it as fake ABA because real ABA is still very harmful. On TikTok auteach knows a lot more about these things. If you really don't want to get on or want more resources here's her booklist: Raising Human Beings by Ross W. Greene Uniquely Human A Different Way Of Seeing Autism by Barry M. Prizant The Reason I Jump by Naoki Higashida Beyond Behaviors by Mona Delahooke Engaging Autism: Using the Floortime Approach to Help Children Relate, Communicate, and Think by Serena Wieder and Stanley Greenspan I hope this helps🙂

@@lavenderpixel9092 Hi, I am autistic and also an ABA therapist right now. Could you explain what you mean by fake ABA and real ABA I think there might some confusion here

@@samepstein8643 Real ABA is outdated and was founded by Ole Ivar Lovaas on out of date science, founded upon a platform of science fiction and ableism. Real ABA is a natural science, in natural science only observable and measurable things are to be included. Thoughts, feelings, emotions, hormones, neurological differences, biology are all disregarded in actual ABA. Actual ABA is the behaviourist approach in psychology, all approaches have their fundamental assumptions which they are built upon, with real ABA the assumptions are; • Only observable and measurable behaviours are to be studied. • We come in the world as a clean slate that our genes have no influence on our behaviour. • All behaviours are learned from experience. • Non-human animals are valid test subjects as they follow the same learning principles. We know most of that is science fiction, Skinner even said the mind is just a black box. Unfortunately most clinics go by what I've written above, it is all over their own official advertisements and on the clinic's own website. Any therapies that don't follow the 4 fundamental assumptions of the behaviourist is not real ABA, they just call themselves ABA for the sake of insurance. Science has progressed well beyond behaviourism, behaviourism was already out of date by 1950 and ABA therapy was founded over a decade later. Unfortunately most are still greatly ignorant of all the criticisms directed at today's ABA such as the great lack of education and training, the great lack of crucial knowledge for human health. ABA's goals are not centred on the client's human health and wellbeing, it's still clearly centred on behaviour.

@@samepstein8643 Just to correct the narrator, not all of us are sharing opinions, we are sharing scientific facts, I'll share a few here. Each time ABA overstimulates a person tension develops in the muscles. Sustaining tension in muscles causes chronic pain, then when you teach them to keep overstimulating themselves they take the risk of developing chronic pain disorders. Not good! Fight or flight produces adrenaline, producing too much adrenaline and cortisol causes hormonal imbalances. With hormones and neurons interacting with the body organs hormonal imbalances damage the body organs, too much adrenaline causes things like schizophrenia. Anxiety in general increases the heart rate and effects blood pressure levels. Once again, not good! Do you think children know about anything that's happening beneath their skin in their body and brain? The nervous system is directly connected to the brain through the spinal cord, scientists who are actually up to date claim there's approximately 100,000,000,000 neurons in the nervous system that they're describing it as a second brain and is the size of a cat or dog's brain. As ABA practices damage the immune system the children become more susceptible to sicknesses and diseases, especially associated with age. Again, not good! Due to variation in the hippocampus autistic people are more vulnerable to depression. When people are in depression there is a reduction to metabolism resulting in food being turned into fat instead of energy which is why depressed people snack more (because the food did not turn into energy) and increases fat storage. The body will feed off of sugary cells before calories and fat storage which pushes children in the direction of developing type 2 diabetes later in life, especially when they use sugary foods as positive reinforcement. Not good once again! I and any other up to date scientists can provide countless damages that are happening beneath the children's skin, as long as ABA continues being regardless of the harm it's doing beneath the surface I will not support it. Doing all of this to children as young as 2 years old, how much of an impact do you think this has on human development? ABA has not done a single longitudinal study of its methods and is entirely ignorant of the results we see later in life. Universities have investigated the results and suspicions of today's ABA, they tested lots of autistic people, results showed that those who were subjected to ABA are still 86% more likely to meet the criteria of PTSD and nearly 50% of the people they tested are actually diagnosed with PTSD. Those tested who were not subjected to ABA were found PTSD symptom free. That doesn't look good to me! Where you say it depends on the therapists' skills, you have an issue here. The therapists' skills being so low shows ABA does not have training programs that actually makes people suitable for the job, how do you validate ABA employing people who are not even educated to do the job with such low skills as acceptable? It is disgraceful that practitioners are not even educated in psychology itself, hardly any ABA workers have had the ability to answer questions about autism and tell me who Albert Bandura is. The very few who could did not learn through ABA. Autism is not even involved in ABA education which brings you another issue, how do you validate an organisation calling itself "The Golden Standard for Autism" when they don't even know about autism? Are you beginning to see why therapies which actually are ABA misrepresent the criticisms towards ABA? ABA is the behaviourist approach in psychology, just like every other approach it has its fundamental assumptions. • Only observable and measurable behaviours are to be included (that means feelings, emotions, thoughts, hormones, internal constructs are to be ignored) What a harmful practice it is to ignore feelings and emotions causing mental health disorders just because you can't measure them? • All behaviours are learned from experience. (I never learned how to have meltdowns from experience, more science fiction) • We come in this world as a clean slate that our genes have no influence on our behaviour. (Autism is primarily genetic, Autism greatly influences my behaviour, so I would say our genes certainly do influence our behavior, more science fiction in ABA). • Non-human animals are valid test subjects as they follow the same learning principles. (That's an aporling comparison, do we study disabilities and mental health disorders in non-human animals? Comparing us to rats and pigeons only shows ABA still sees us as subhumans, ABA less effective than dog training). ABA is founded by Ole Ivar Lovaas on out of date science and a platform of ableism, ABA is still out of date as it is contradictory to all other scientific fields, especially the claim it's harmless, it's clearly not a harmless therapy.

your "SCIENTIFIC" facts are NOT regarding what Applied Behavior Analysis is. Your Scientific facts are about any other thing but not about applied behavior analysis.

@@rosebean7331 I know, scientific facts I'm sharing expose the harm you do to children on the inside which is why I'm against ABA, it has no concern about health, just behaviour. I'm not living by your ABA cultural doctrine, I believe science as a whole, not a fragment that was already outdated by 1950, behaviourism was already dead. You did not address a single piece of criticism, would you like me to invalidate your "evidence" further? ABA therapy is no match for 21st century science.

I feel that anyone has a say. Some more than others (in this case people with ASD). I work with ABA and research it thoroughly. I’m not diagnosed with ASD or any other developmental disorder. I understand the good and bad so I believe I should have some say

@@andrewmccullough4999 Well than how can you possibly know what it is like then?

@@qaboos4 because I work first hand with people that fight these difficulties every day. I see their struggle and help them anyway I can. I listen to their concerns and actively engage with them any way I can

@@andrewmccullough4999 If you are actually do what you claim, I respect that, but on the subject of autistic experiences, neurotypical voices carry less weight

@@qaboos4 I’ll agree with that

What worked for me it was the pal. And PE teacher. The first they did was I was in a group with one person for only 5 minutes did not asked me to do anything say anything, look at the person, it was just to have someone next to me. It was on a Monday I didn't make it to 5 minutes but by Friday that week I was asking for 10. The making friends an not get bully side. I dropped something even if it's a piece of paper. I would say excuse I dropped that and can I have it back. That person listen you gain another friend but if not you go find the teacher and the teacher is your friend. But also in PE the teacher found out that like football. Something I knew but wouldn't ever tell not because I'm girl but only not so nice reasons. They let me set of the friends at lunch which is important. I meet friends that wouldn't be friends to like the pal. of all peoples. How about someone says hi to me make friends when I turn head. The friend count will surprise you. I made 150 friends in 14 months time where my goal was stop the bullying. Before this my only friends was my two dogs (now just one) and my shadow which was safer. Let me choose interests to make activities. Makes choices of my own. Basically let me stand on me two feet decrease my anxiety that created a name for myself. Like do what would ‘I’ do. Turn my grade to it wasn't failing but it wasn't even near grade level they even help me almost grade level. Make me feel curious, challenge, and to be creative. I also too had a reward system and autism and it worked wonders. Mostly on school and It was a personal motivation meaning I was me and not the teachers that came up with this. Here's was my ladder has taught me: i have to come up exactly 10 things motives me? a daily rewards not a week.You need a baseline but is not 10 a good starting number for adhd or autism 6 or 7 or 8 is better. I also had a behavior sheet divided class like I had four classes a day Behavior one Colman, the grade of the class period is one Colman and any good deeds the Colman times that by 7 because it's easier to make the sheet a week ahead.The grade: that's harder to calculate here's my old cheat sheet:10 100-96 A in the state Tennessee 9 96-93 A in the state Tennessee 8 92-88 B in the state Tennessee 7 88-85 B in the state Tennessee6 84-79 C in the state Tennessee 5 79-754 74-72 D in the state Tennessee 3 72-70 D in the state Tennessee 2 69-39F1 39 and under F (Tennessee has different grade system) The routine is part of the rules, grade, behavior. But if something come up out of the routine like fire drills it's a 10 for the class period regardless of what happen before even if 10 minutes. We don't do well to change. Behavior: I learn a lot about ADHD or autism is what it isn't. Unfortunately I try my best about my anxiety and the focus this is why I do a baseline. The reason why I started this I got bully at school and I looked online one day something colorful and visual and learn that thrived under freedom meaning I didn't have that bird in the ear that a human being and someone breathing on my neck and people in my personal. The bully stop immediately after I started maybe I wasn't painting on a face and eyes of a target. It only lasted 14 months because because after this was when I was in the special needs the blog above this one? But this is a time that I treasure it could have been 14 days or 14 months I will take the 14 months . To my pal. and the PE teacher that help me and watch me grow and learn and watch my friends going up they were really like my mom and dad. They were both single but now almost 4 years later they both gotten married sadly just not with each other. What you call good quality ABA I call it quality PE class.

That's great you aren't suppressing stimming. But then you're not practicing ABA, since it's definition is that it is based on natural science, at the expense of social science. If you don't think ABA tries to suppress autistic identity by trying to get a child to do eye contact or to stop stimming, there are an abundant number of resources proving that ABA does, in fact, insist on eye contact and not stimming at the expense of autistic identity: www.marybarbera.com/autism-and-eye-contact-how-to-improve-eye-contact/, www.scanlonspeech.com/2017/07/14/fun-activities-to-promote-listening-skills/, howtoaba.com/eye-contact/, ericasedventures.com/back-to-school-activities-free-sample/, bcotb.com/joint-attention-making-eye-contact-a-reinforcer/, www.michaelsmum.com/4-steps-to-teaching-eye-contact-to-an-autistic-toddler/, www.act4autism.com/how-can-i-decrease-self-stimulatory-behaviors/, blossombehavioral.org/2020/03/05/how-aba-therapy-improves-your-childs-social-skills/, axisaba.com/additional-information, www.autismpartnershipsg.com/en/news/how-to-effectively-stop-self-stim-behavior-using-reactive-procedure/, www.behavioralconsultingnc.com/about, www.jsakids.org/uncategorized/art-across-the-spectrum/, www.goldencaretherapy.com/aba-therapy-techniques-you-can-use-at-home/, www.scottsdalepbs.com/blog/5-aba-therapy-examples-and-how-they-work-in-behavior-development, lifeskillsautismacademy.com/aba-therapy-center, autismawarenesscentre.com/whole-body-listening-tool-not-rule/, prezi.com/qfdpwjrtezgp/reinforcing-eye-contact-in-children-with-autism/, www.aspireacadiana.com/aba-therapy, manhattanpsychologygroup.com/what-is-social-thinking/, thecenteraba.com/what-is-aba-therapy, www.peakpotentialtherapy.com/can-you-help-with-my-childs-behavior/, theautismhelper.com/best-games-for-the-aba-classroom/, www.cwtherapy.com/teachingchildrentheskillsforwholebodylistening/, www.behavioralhealthflorida.com/services/aba-therapy-solutions/, www.nspt4kids.com/healthtopics-and-conditions-database/autism-spectrum-disorder/strategies-to-replace-hand-flapping/

necelticsox Actually, ABA it’s based on behavioral science not ‘natural science’ So ABA actually doesn’t judge what’s right or wrong, it’s simply based on behavior and how we can change and shape it. Also people who aren’t Autistic stim. For example sometimes if I feel nervous I may tap my foot up and down, that is considered a stim. The difference is that is generally socially acceptable. Eye contact is also cultural. ABA does not say, “teach children eye contact,” it simply is a tool to help teach that and is often used for that because in the US that is an important skill to have. You are misunderstanding what ABA based on practitioners you have watched. Mary Barbara is great but she is also old and from a different generation, with different expectations. I think being in my early 20’s and having an Autistic sister, and friends greatly changes my perspective.

@@pinkqueenscookie Eye contact should not be taught even as a tool to autistic people. Eye contact is sensory hell for many autistics and we tend to listen better when we're not looking at people than we do looking at them. It may be useful for you, but for many autistics, it's absolutely useless.

It's quote, unquote not quote on quote and it is used when speaking not writing/typing.

Then you aren't practicing ABA. You're using ABA methods in a classroom setting. Which is a holistic, educated approach.

Talk to actuallyAutistic people, not just parents, and you will get a very different perspective than she claims

Leanne, I am soooo glad you asked this question. It is NOT okay to withhold a communication device from a child with autism until they do ANYTHING. What you are describing is horrible and NOT at all what a good ABA clinician would do. Please report them.

@@AutismLive Right! but the thing is, even if rewards such as favorite treats or toys are used in place of punishment, it can be torture, as children on the autism spectrum are taught that behaving in a way that is more tolerable to neurotypicals is more important than their own feelings or needs/desires. Is THAT acceptable? ABSOLUTELY NOT! People with autism should have just as much of a right to have their own needs/desires met as everyone else. The thing is, ABA, even if done in the 'correct' manner, is abusive, even if it's not meant that way. Neurotypicals are often encouraged to express their true feelings and personal boundaries, but it seems as if ABA basically strips us of this liberty, even if this is not the intention.

@@leannestrong1000 I think you and I are in total agreement that no one should be taught something that doesn't prioritize their own wants and needs. I just think you have only seen where ABA didn't do this. I have seen this too and it makes ME CRAZY - largely because I have seen ABA where the first thing it does is help the individual communicate their needs, wants and desires and helps them to know how to advocate for themselves. Part of it is WHAT you teach and part of it is HOW you teach it. LOTs of people are doing it wrong. But I have seen it done correctly. It is a powerful thing.

hahaha no

I would saggests occupational therapy that's not aba I had occupational therapy as a kid and it helped me. Aba probably wouldn't of becuse they try to make you normal and growing up being told I had to act normal by countless teachers really messed with my mental health. Just whatever you choose just make sure to really pay attention to your child how your child acts after going to said therapy. In elementary school I often came home grumpy my mom didn't know why because I couldn't cominicate why but it was literal hell for me since the teachers were not trained to deal with the kids there.

Working and researching ABA has taught me that yes it is indeed helpful. HOWEVER it must be done right and done in a good, appropriate way. Do your own research and maybe even try ABA out but if any red flags show up remember you have every right to protect your child.

Never hear what someone that didn't went through ABA as an patient has to say.

No. Avoid like the plague. Speech therapy is great though.

@Iris Jensen I suck at spelling thank you 😂

Gael, You don't like that I see people on the spectrum as being capable and competent?

@@AutismLive that's not the issue.

@@LeSeulViolet It is part of the issue. For many years children who were on the spectrum were sent home from school and the parents where told they were unteachable. It is unimaginable, but this happened in my life time. We know that individuals on the spectrum can learn, but perhaps they learn in a different (maybe even better) way. The pure principles of ABA are to teach the individual and to teach they way they learn while making it rewarding to that individual. Obviously, there are people who have abused this science. It is also unconscionable. I don't ever want to make it sound like that is okay. It is not. But saying that all ABA is bad, takes us back to the days where what? People on the spectrum don't get to learn? Get parked in classrooms where no one teaches to their strengths? That's also not okay. I want to advocate for individuals to have the right to learn, in a manner that is fair and considers what they want to learn. Not to fit in. To have choices. To have meaningful skills.

@@AutismLive no it is not. The issue is when autists tell you ABA is torture, your f*ing reaction is to say "you can tell me that thanks for ABA, well done, good for you." Can you spot the problem here?

​​@@AutismLive no it is a con game. Where you play on the parents fears, pedal lies and displace funding for more effective therapy. Then claim you are miracle workers. Leaving behind a psychologically damaged child. Who will need years of therapy to recover, if they dont commit sucide before the damage is discover

Dude, you're spamming that comment in a lot of places. Touch grass.

rose bean, Just to correct you, not all of us are sharing opinions, we are sharing scientific facts, I'll share a few here. Each time ABA overstimulates a person tension develops in the muscles. Sustaining tension in muscles causes chronic pain, then when you teach them to keep overstimulating themselves they take the risk of developing chronic pain disorders. Not good! Fight or flight produces adrenaline, producing too much adrenaline and cortisol causes hormonal imbalances. With hormones and neurons interacting with the body organs hormonal imbalances damage the body organs, too much adrenaline causes things like schizophrenia. Anxiety in general increases the heart rate and effects blood pressure levels. Once again, not good! Do you think children know about anything that's happening beneath their skin in their body and brain? The nervous system is directly connected to the brain through the spinal cord, scientists who are actually up to date claim there's approximately 100,000,000,000 neurons in the nervous system that they're describing it as a second brain and is the size of a cat or dog's brain. As ABA practices damage the immune system the children become more susceptible to sicknesses and diseases, especially associated with age. Again, not good! Due to variation in the hippocampus autistic people are more vulnerable to depression. When people are in depression there is a reduction to metabolism resulting in food being turned into fat instead of energy which is why depressed people snack more (because the food did not turn into energy) and increases fat storage. The body will feed off of sugary cells before calories and fat storage which pushes children in the direction of developing type 2 diabetes later in life, especially when they use sugary foods as positive reinforcement. Not good once again! I and any other up to date scientists can provide countless damages that are happening beneath the children's skin, as long as ABA continues being regardless of the harm it's doing beneath the surface I will not support it. Doing all of this to children as young as 2 years old, how much of an impact do you think this has on human development? ABA has not done a single longitudinal study of its methods and is entirely ignorant of the results we see later in life. Universities have investigated the results and suspicions of today's ABA, they tested lots of autistic people, results showed that those who were subjected to ABA are still 86% more likely to meet the criteria of PTSD and nearly 50% of the people they tested are actually diagnosed with PTSD. Those tested who were not subjected to ABA were found PTSD symptom free. That doesn't look good to me! Where you say it depends on the therapists' skills, you have an issue here. The therapists' skills being so low shows ABA does not have training programs that actually makes people suitable for the job, how do you validate ABA employing people who are not even educated to do the job with such low skills as acceptable? It is disgraceful that practitioners are not even educated in psychology itself, hardly any ABA workers have had the ability to answer questions about autism and tell me who Albert Bandura is. The very few who could did not learn through ABA. Autism is not even involved in ABA education which brings you another issue, how do you validate an organisation calling itself "The Golden Standard for Autism" when they don't even know about autism? Are you beginning to see why therapies which actually are ABA misrepresent the criticisms towards ABA? ABA is the behaviourist approach in psychology, just like every other approach it has its fundamental assumptions. • Only observable and measurable behaviours are to be included (that means feelings, emotions, thoughts, hormones, internal constructs are to be ignored) What a harmful practice it is to ignore feelings and emotions causing mental health disorders just because you can't measure them? • All behaviours are learned from experience. (I never learned how to have meltdowns from experience, more science fiction) • We come in this world as a clean slate that our genes have no influence on our behaviour. (Autism is primarily genetic, Autism greatly influences my behaviour, so I would say our genes certainly do influence our behavior, more science fiction in ABA). • Non-human animals are valid test subjects as they follow the same learning principles. (That's an aporling comparison, do we study disabilities and mental health disorders in non-human animals? Comparing us to rats and pigeons only shows ABA still sees us as subhumans, ABA less effective than dog training). ABA is founded by Ole Ivar Lovaas on out of date science and a platform of ableism, ABA is still out of date as it is contradictory to all other scientific fields, especially the claim it's harmless, it's clearly not a harmless therapy.

@@danielmoore4024 Easy to answer you!!! so easy. You do NOT KNOW WHAT IS ABA.

@@rosebean7331 You haven't addressed a single piece of the criticism because you know ABA is actual physical, mental, and psychological abuse according to 21st century science.

SonRise program uses physical restraint

Son Rise is a scam!

@@hersheek.2841 Where did you get that from. Sunrise is about mirroring the child and letting them take the lead then gently and indirectly encouraging them to copy you. Where do you get the idea that it involves physical restraint? ABA is more likely to do that in it's forced follow throughs and idea that meltdowns are tantrums and you have to keep the demand on the child no matter how distressed they get.

I am sorry you feel that way. I am fighting for people on the spectrum to be treated ethically and with compassion. Part of that is allowing them to learn new skills. It has to be done in a way that allows them maintain their dignity, choices and sense of self. But they deserve the right to learn. Good ABA is a teaching tool, not a torture device.

Please visit the following link and click on the "Approach" Tab to learn more about ABA (Applied Behavioral Analysis) at the Center for Autism and Related Disorders! :) www.centerforautism.com/about-us.aspx

It doesnt work she's delusional at best

I would like to see ABA used to stop parents from using ABA!

“Adult children”. NO.

carmen mendoza, So you think it's acceptable to physically harm children internally just because you can't see the damage? That's careless of you, you should educate yourself, ABA clearly does not take health seriously. The circumstances and positions ABA methodology is physically and mentally harmful according to 21st century science. We know that when a person consumes alcohol they are causing liver damage, but the individuals consuming alcohol seem so happy about it. Something making someone happy does not mean it's health. On things like lung cancer from smoking, the cancer doesn't result after the first smoke does it? It takes smoking repetitively to develop blood clots and lung cancer. It's the same with ABA, things may look good now just like it looks good when you see a 22 year old drinking alcohol feeling happy at a party, it takes quite a period of time for illnesses and cancers to develop doesn't it? Putting children in anxiety triggering the fight or flight response then telling parents they have to go through with it, doing so releases adrenaline from the adrenal gland. Adrenaline damages blood vessels, increases blood pressure, increases heart rate which all greatly contributes to the development of heart diseases, just like tobacco greatly contributes to lung cancer and alcohol to liver damage. As science has progressed ABA has remained in the early 20th century, it's being proven so many human behaviours are biological responses to what's happening on the inside, how a person is responding to their thoughts and not the environment. The longer ABA continues refusing to come up to date with the rest of science, they're just going to continue living as their own culture. As long as they remain regardless of everything happening beneath the surface they will remain unethical, harmful and out of date. Each time ABA overstimulates a person tension develops in the muscles. Sustaining tension in muscles causes chronic pain, then when they teach them to keep overstimulating themselves they take the risk of developing chronic pain disorders. Not good! The nervous system is directly connected to the brain through the spinal cord, scientists who are actually up to date claim there's approximately 1,000,000,000, neurons in the nervous system that they're describing it as a second brain and is the size of a cat or dog's brain. As ABA practices damage the immune system the children become more susceptible to sicknesses and diseases, especially associated with age. Again, not good! Due to variation in the hippocampus autistic people are more vulnerable to depression. When people are in depression there is a reduction to metabolism resulting in food being turned into fat instead of energy which is why depressed people snack more (because the food did not turn into energy) and increases fat storage. The body will feed off of sugary cells before calories which while increasing fat storage pushes children in the direction of developing type 2 diabetes later in life, especially when they use sugary foods as positive reinforcement. Not good once again! I and any other up to date scientists can provide countless damages that are happening beneath the children's skin, as long as ABA continues being regardless of the harm it's doing beneath the surface I will not support it. Doing all of this to children as young as 2 years old, how much of an impact do you think this has on human development? ABA has not done a single longitudinal study of its methods and is entirely ignorant of the results we see later in life. Universities have investigated the results and suspicions of today's ABA, they tested lots of autistic people, results showed that those who were subjected to ABA are still 86% more likely to meet the criteria of PTSD and nearly 50% of the people they tested are actually diagnosed with PTSD. Those tested who were not subjected to ABA were found PTSD symptom free. That doesn't look good to me! Behaviourism which is actually out of date and proven scientifically false, like it's claims; • All behaviours are learned by experiences (I never learned how to have a meltdown) • Genes have no influences on our behaviour (Autism is primarily genetic, behaviours to do with autism are biological) More funding should go towards neuroscience to understand autistic behaviours biologically, by doing so they may come to find biological solutions. I use biological solutions and have successfully helped autistic children accelerate in progression as unlike ABA, scientists outside of ABA are actually up to date with scientific discoveries, not once has ABA updated with the rest of science. Until ABA updates its scientific methods, its functions of behavior, and incorporates modern day psychology - including neurology, child development, educational psychology, and other vital research - it cannot be considered to be a safe, effective, or ethical field. There should be something like this on every consent form: ABA therapy focuses on the behavior of your child but does not take into account modern research in neurology, biophysical factors in behavior, neurodevelopmental conditions, trauma, or child development. The methodology behind applied behavior analysis was founded in the ’50s and ’60s and your analyst’s education may not have incorporated more modern discoveries in psychology or behaviorism.

How so? Please

@@jerusalem7050 stim suppression,aversives and other nasty shit. I have seen and experienced this shit lol

Roblox game right lol?

OH MY GOD NO, STOP, ABA IS TORTURE, MY LITTLE BROTHER IS AUTISTIC AND HE IS NON CONSTANTLY CRYING AFTER THE TREATMENT, HE DOES NOT LIKE IT, IT'S HELL, YOUR SON WILL HATE YOU WHEN HE GROWS UP, I BEG YOU, STOP!!

stopSTOP THE ABA Please

I can’t stop crying either for all the children who will receive ABA due to this video!

@@melodiephoenix but why I don't get it why do you think it's torture

@@amyhern2154 It's because they are all bandwagoners for attention. You literally said you saw progress and it made both of you happy, but the comments above have their own agenda. They spew hate on something they don't understand

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Training our pet 🙄

an autistic child should never be compared to a pet, wtf

Keep profiting from torture you suck!

Verbal behavior is where its at!

Wrong

@@melodiephoenix Where's your research?

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks Where's your research that actually includes acknowledging how your techniques effect the inside of someone's body and brain? Where are your longitudinal studies to see the long-term effects of ABA? You've researched neither as ABA does not care about human health, if it did it would not ignore internal constructs nor long-term results.

@@danielmoore4024 What do you mean by long-term effects? Like do the behaviors continue to occur after the intervention? Yeah, there's plenty of articles on that. In fact, that resource I gave you (The National Clearinghouse on Autism Evidence and Practice) shows exactly what interventions have been shown to be effective with what population and what areas of development it helped with. Let me know when you read them, I'd be interested in what you have to say.

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks I've looked at your site, why am I not surprised it does not include; • Human biology • Human neurology • Psychology as a whole • The negative results we have seen • Emotional health • The origins of ABA • The voices of autistic people ourselves I told an ABA worker not to waste his time on me and read "Behaviourism Is Dead, How Do We Tell The (Autism) Parents?" Thankfully, the ABA worker did have a read and agrees with the dog trainer who uses ABA to teach animals and that he's being rambling against his colleagues for years about updating with the rest of science. It's ABA workers like him and "Master ABA" who prevent me saying ABA must be banished, they're the ones who make me have hope that one day ABA will actually update to 21st century science. Both workers agree with me ABA is scientifically out of date.

Please say "autistic person". IWA is very dehumanizing.

Jess, NO. It is just part of Autistic life. theuncalledfor, why the death threats?

I don't think your know what you're talking about...

let them stim when it is appropriate...like worship service or a nice restaurantmight not be the appropriate place for spinning etc. but let them have a space and time when they can feel free to be themselves and do what feels normal or good for them. they just need to know when is appropriate and when is not. I dont allow my grand girl (who I am raising) to spin at the movie theatre. she can spin in the family room or outdoors in the yard. she has her own indoor trampoline and a corner of her own with a tent pillow blanket and whatever she is most comfortable with. she can go there anytime (except it is not to be associated in any way with disciplinary issues) she feels it necessary.

That is a lie

@@jlynnshow5923 Honey, an autistic person needs to stim MORE in a worship service or a restaurant. In a place filled with people, autists need to relieve that stress.

Teaching AUTISTIC PEOPLE appropriate behavior is not torture. But it is when you do it with Annoying Bigoted Ableism (which is what ABA REALLY is).

Yes it is torture!