Is Bourgogne Still The Best Steel Battleship In 2024? 

wow a whole 2 letters in common :/

Same here, I do pretty consistent 80-100k average in the Yammy, but find it hard to impact games. I love playing it but have a dismal 39% win rate, it’s my only T8-T10 that’s below 50%!

What is with the win rate, it’s like you’re working and need to meet your metrics. if u play with a squad u may have high we rate. If you play solo on random, then likely your win rate is under 50%

@Taooflu I feel it is mostly that everyone knows how to deal with Yammy attacks. Every time I have a target to shoot at, they travel at an extreme kiting angle that makes yamato shells with their odd dispersion miss or clang thr belt. That aside it also needs to actually do damage, pens alone isn't enough and HE, while potentially effective, isn't what the 460s are good at.

@DreadJaeger The clan I used to sail with often called her the Bon Jovie because it was hard for them to spell or pronounce Bourgogne correctly. Every ship has a juvenile name attached to it. Yammy, GK, Hindy, Monty, Chris, Krem etc.

any regrets?

@@asdzsolt6442 None at the moment. I have a full secondary build Alsace with a free bonus package so that scratches my french bb itch. The only downside to Lauria that I can see is that I have Sansonetti on her with a full accuracy/tank build, but will have to change him to secondary build when Sicilia comes out. I dont want to have to keep changing him around between the two ships, seems like a waste of commander xp.

I had it in the past, the reload booster is nice, but apart from it and bit better base reload I would go for Alsace. But I used to play it full secondary though, bit dodgy idea in the current meta. 😐

@@sLim88CPCyou prefer Alsace? Worse reload, worse accuracy?

Bourgogne was just there before Mecklenburg. When Mecklenburg was released, there was not much reason to pick it if you had bourgogne already.

I don't have Meckleberg but Bourg is all about accuracy and speed, it's great fun.

​@@tomriley5790bourgogne has literally some of the worst accuracy at tier X. Only ship less accurate is the Columbo.

@@klmnts I picked it mainly for the secondaries, but in the current meta, it's now reduced to AA/hybrid secondary opportunity brawler

Terrible because French secondary guns have no pen

its not about the secondarie damage but rather about the range for the -10% main gun reload of cqc @@Posilepton

@@Posilepton close quarters buffs main battery when secondaries fire and French bbs get decent range on them with a build for it. The secondaries themselves stay useless so you don't take manual aiming, just long range and close quarters expert.

Lauria is far better due to 30mm overmatch, much better accuracy and ridiculous SAP

​@@Posileptonthe trade off on Lauria is quite bad dispersion. It is not consistent, but when it hits it does massive damage due to not caring about angling with SAP.

@@Posileptonyeah but it’s harder to carry with Lauria than with Bourgogne. You are way more squishy and less consistent in Lauria

I own both and I think bourgogne is the better ship. Neither ship is good at pushing. Lauria can tank better when showing her ass, but her guns are trollier and struggle against thick armor

@@sLim88CPC bad dispersion? It's almost Thunderer levels

Increasing mini map size does not require a mod. Its an option in game

Just hit the plus sign on the number key.

Burgogne is a pain in the ass of your enemies, while alsace is a pain in your ass.

Ragnar is good all gun dd, not very manouverable, similar to Smaland if you have that don't get Ragnar. Friesland and it's equivalent are pretty similar too. It's a good ship but not something I love... to be honest it doesn't really play much like a dd, all guns no smoke, large spotting range. But it can be good in competetive for counter dd...

Yeah, me too. I really regret getting FDR with the way things are going. I'm hesitating also between Bourgogne and Lauria. Did you end up choosing?

Eww. That game sucks. Not really any good mobile naval games these days. There was one called naval creed but it is no more. It was the closest thing to wows as mobile games go

I got incomparable but the guns are a little wonky and it kinda sucks having 6 low-velocity guns like shiki but it's fun and good

Get Lauria then lol. Most toxic BB in the game. You just spam SAP and get 15-20k salvos. Lauria’s midship deck and stern deck can even shatter Thunderer HE.

Nice

Gato is a sub, so boycotted

I agee lol. People think Incomp is soo good, yet the ship rely heavily on matchup, since CVs screw it so hard. And I’m not talking about them attacking you. On Asia, even getting spotted will cause the entire enemy team to focus you down instantly. My former clan leader decided to get her as his first steel ship, then within 10 games refunded her for steel and bought Plymouth of all things. Incomp needs brainless idiots who don’t shoot u to shine, else they explode. Fortunately for NA and EU, they are in abundance, so she can shine there. But I cba grinding ranked on my rerolls to get that steel.

​@@Virgilfinnatellwait. What do you mean refunded?

@@clmwrx I wasn't aware you could get refund on steel ships!?

Bourgogne has better gimmicks