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Is Christianity an Invention to Conquer Rome? Gnostic Informant VS Adam Green 

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@breakth3rules
@breakth3rules 6 месяцев назад
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@tonyfaulknor8273
@tonyfaulknor8273 3 месяца назад
2:33:21 Illuminati Christianity? Bloody hell, I knew it!!! And you're saying Revelations is their little book, and you dismiss Revelations? (Blue Beam technologies, anyone? Hidden intent, anyone? They're telling you what they gonna do, which is that which they done before. Wassa matter? You don't know the way in which "the sausage gets made?")This means the world is being ruled by some sort Satanic Christ. (it's almost visceral)And it's greatest deception is to make you all believe it to be at war with itself, (Because of course, as you know, the breath in is always at war with the breath out. I'm being facetious, eh?) I like the sound of Illuminati Christianity, I was thinking more Islamic Christianity. But that first one is fine too, it's already here, and I have a feeling, it's been here forever. "Satan loves Christ". Look what he's been able to do with it. You can use this archetypes to control the entire worlds, for ever.. But we still need to shatter a swarm , though...shattertheswarm.com
@tonyfaulknor8273
@tonyfaulknor8273 3 месяца назад
Oh! And another thing, I forgot to mention. You say these early Christians, Sibyllines believe you called them, were part of some incest cults (Not that I'm condoning that shit, but.. y'know? believe these 'Satanic Christians' are already ruling the world, are you gonna have to do incest too, to rule the world, as well?) My question is, Jacob Rothchild was blatant about this practice in his family. I'm thinking, were these ancient Syblinians the Christians that escaped being reach by Paul message of Salvation and grace, and then went on to find their other brethren's, that history never recorded, to rule the world, with their version of Jesus that seems to be somewhat superior to Pauls'?
@mitchellsmith7868
@mitchellsmith7868 20 дней назад
It was not Judaism. It was Iranian, Persian. The magi came. Mithra's came as the bull with the serpent in his belly. The one who hung on a stick.
@mitchellsmith7868
@mitchellsmith7868 20 дней назад
And, what happened to Rome in the long run. With their supreme God.
@wolfenhauz
@wolfenhauz 6 месяцев назад
A lot of people give Adam a lot of crap and I just don't see why. He always is amicable, always is nice to guests, tries to support the channel and get super chats. Just an overall nice guy.
@breakth3rules
@breakth3rules 6 месяцев назад
I had a great time speaking w/ Adam & would love to have him come back. If the end goal is getting to the truth, there is nothing to shy away from.
@tzone962
@tzone962 6 месяцев назад
They’re butthurt Christians who are actually vile and violent people.
@4trahasis
@4trahasis 6 месяцев назад
@@breakth3rules "If the end goal is getting to the truth, there is nothing to shy away from" sounds very similar to something I used to hear often a few years back: "the truth fears no investigation."
@patricksmyth7845
@patricksmyth7845 6 месяцев назад
They give him crap because he exposes their delusions.
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 6 месяцев назад
You forgot to mention he's a literal Nazi. He recently teamed up with Red Ice TV a literal Nazi channel, and he believes in white hegemony and is anti-multicluralism. So there you go there is no reason to trust him.
@ChristmasHarbour
@ChristmasHarbour 6 месяцев назад
We need to have this debate a lot more. Especially with the Christian nationalist types.
@Ardepark
@Ardepark 6 месяцев назад
Lol good luck with that. They don’t discuss, they emote.
@rbelf001
@rbelf001 6 месяцев назад
😂😂😂 a made-up term for the low IQ crowd. Enjoy your self righteousness.
@rajrai4086
@rajrai4086 4 месяца назад
Gnostic looks confused. Stop saying all the greek words to sound smarter than us Roman's in America.
@rajrai4086
@rajrai4086 4 месяца назад
Adam came prepared with screen sharing. Gnostic hitting from the hip, with rap stile. I like old school hip hop but not the rap look...
@Joshua_Froschauer
@Joshua_Froschauer 2 месяца назад
What about Us Satanist Nationalists?
@epicwinguyz
@epicwinguyz 6 месяцев назад
Gotta say i really like Adam. Straight shooter
@SaralinaLove
@SaralinaLove 6 месяцев назад
YES, that's one of the reasons I admire him and can listen to him and share his videos with everyone I know! I loved this "debate"! so respectful and good natured!!
@weilinwang1989
@weilinwang1989 6 месяцев назад
Amen
@gwynedd1
@gwynedd1 3 месяца назад
Yes, right at CJB where he steals much of his theories.
@Francisco-eu8fs
@Francisco-eu8fs 2 месяца назад
Yes, but all his worries are on one aspect only. When the host talked about those who want to destroy West from inside, the woke, etc, we again diverted to prophecy, Noahide law, etc. I would argue that cultural marxism, wokeism, whatever you want to call it is the biggest danger and Adam does not seem to be looking at that at all, or we will blame it on the js which is beyond simplistic
@juliusevolvere6835
@juliusevolvere6835 Месяц назад
⁠@@Francisco-eu8fs it seems “simplistic” because it is actually very simple. Funny you mention cultural Marxism. Carl Marx was a J, his maternal grandfather was a rabbi and his paternal line supplied the city Trier, Germany with its rabbis since 1723. Just wiki Marx and it’s all there in his biography. Of course his family “converted” to Christianity to better blend in and assist their efforts to subvert the host nation like the parasites they are.
@lesweenmachine
@lesweenmachine 6 месяцев назад
Adam has been ahead of the curve, I’ve been watching him since 2014, interviewing Whitney Webb is how I found him
@robertfleming9310
@robertfleming9310 5 месяцев назад
so you are a special kind of ignorant
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain 4 месяца назад
Just more right wing cointelpro Like israel
@GnosticElohim
@GnosticElohim Месяц назад
Same, he's always been real and very well informed.
@GnosticElohim
@GnosticElohim Месяц назад
​@@Uncanny_Mountain you don't have to agree with someone to like them.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Месяц назад
@@GnosticElohim that's called an Echo chamber darling How all Cults work
@bryanutility9609
@bryanutility9609 6 месяцев назад
The host just needs to address who is funding the ADL & AIPAC. That’s the problem for America.
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 6 месяцев назад
lol i think everybody who listen to adam green knows this
@bryanutility9609
@bryanutility9609 6 месяцев назад
@@groundzero5708 but nobody addressed this on the show. If the host is saying most Js are just blue pilled normies ok, let’s look at who and how many are funding the damage. Let’s get some #s on it. Just a few elites or is it more common? I don’t really know.
@Ardepark
@Ardepark 6 месяцев назад
He implies that he knows and doesn’t approve of those things, but that the average J is not like that
@bryanutility9609
@bryanutility9609 6 месяцев назад
@@Ardepark yea except are the average Js donating to these orgs? Their funding comes from someone & those people should be exposed. Could be 6 million donors.
@Malachit-dl1qw
@Malachit-dl1qw 6 месяцев назад
Well, not only do the United States have the world's 2nd largest Jewish population by a long shot, but they also contain the highest number of dispensationalists, i. e. apocalyptic Evangelical Christians with LARP-ish philosemitic doctrines. So the country's cultural and demographic make-up predetermine it to easily fall prey to institutional protection of Jews as well as Israeli lobbying. Even before Jews made up a large percentage of America's ethnic minorities, when most of them lived in Eastern Europe and Germany, philosemitism was still far more common in the States than in any European country.
@jordanbey870
@jordanbey870 6 месяцев назад
Adam Green has done his homework...He is no joke..He needs to come back here..No fair RU-vid cancelled his account..
@coreydun
@coreydun 6 месяцев назад
You should watch all his videos very important stuff.
@jordanbey870
@jordanbey870 6 месяцев назад
@@coreydun I have
@AaronJensen92
@AaronJensen92 6 месяцев назад
No surprise, RU-vid is only for gatekeepers. It's not called jootube for nothing
@keithchamp
@keithchamp 6 месяцев назад
RU-vid pre Susan wajiski/ADL takover was a different world.....open comment threads, free for all, no shadow bans.....nows its a ghostland
@Alice-the-seal
@Alice-the-seal 4 месяца назад
Why was he cancelled?
@pqtpat7734
@pqtpat7734 6 месяцев назад
GREEN PILLED
@BrianNineTails
@BrianNineTails 5 месяцев назад
"Translate to English" KEK
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain 4 месяца назад
He does nothing but parrot Zionist politics Right wing garbage
@lasoga2125
@lasoga2125 2 месяца назад
I'm with Adam. Rome got played by the J's
@NoStepOnSnek-g3r
@NoStepOnSnek-g3r Месяц назад
The same Jews that denied Christ to His face.
@bobSeigar
@bobSeigar Месяц назад
​@NoStepOnSnek-g3r No, the same sons of Jupiter who invented Jesus, you know, the other sons of Jeupater.
@Quantrills.Raiders
@Quantrills.Raiders 2 месяца назад
first it was the pagans, then the romans, then the germans, now the europeans and americans
@jordanbey870
@jordanbey870 6 месяцев назад
Adam Green all the way baby..all the way..he kicked ass...I wanna see a debate between Adam Green and Jay Dyer...Jay is running..
@higginswallop5009
@higginswallop5009 6 месяцев назад
Jay's reasoning for not debating Adam is one big Ad Hominem. So ironic
@biovalve1410
@biovalve1410 5 месяцев назад
Church of the Eternal Logos already beat him, if you haven't checked it out
@BroadwayRonMexico
@BroadwayRonMexico 5 месяцев назад
Jeem already debated him and as Jay said, it'd go the exact same way, so there's really nothing to add. And unlike Jeem (who I'd say is almost bordering on "patient to a fault" at times, though he still handled that debate quite well), Jay has absolutely zero patience for the annoying railroading and "scattershot" debate style Adam uses against opponents who are actually knowledgeable enough to competently push back on his points (and it's EXACTLY what he did for that entire debate with Jeem).
@Jonna_Sweden
@Jonna_Sweden 4 месяца назад
I think you forgot to log off from all your sock puppet accounts
@angelaadams1517
@angelaadams1517 4 месяца назад
They’re both arrogant jerks. They should go BF each other. According to Adam there is no God and according to Jay only Orthos are going to Heaven. Yep,,they can go butt F
@svens3722
@svens3722 6 месяцев назад
i like adam green, hes my new rabbit hole
@odinofelohim3510
@odinofelohim3510 6 месяцев назад
more like new crypto Ribbie hahahaha..
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 6 месяцев назад
@@odinofelohim3510 lol chirst zios are mad
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 6 месяцев назад
@@odinofelohim3510 adam even gave his 23 and me for suckers
@odinofelohim3510
@odinofelohim3510 6 месяцев назад
@@groundzero5708 so you mean 2 divided by 3 =666and ME and you belive those snakes. 23 and me is ran by the J's. You should give them your DNA so in the future planddemic they can tailer it to your pheno type it would save time on then having to find you . i dont need to see a dna test to see a slit eyed fork tongue snake.. all these snakes work for the j's dude to undermine ow colture and happy to See the west burn..
@mill_mount
@mill_mount 6 месяцев назад
Christcucks are seething ​@@odinofelohim3510
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 6 месяцев назад
The answer is yes. No I will not elaborate.
@ryanorionwotanson4568
@ryanorionwotanson4568 6 месяцев назад
Of course it's yes, their behavior over the last 1,000 years PROVES it.
@teoperez7163
@teoperez7163 5 месяцев назад
Based.
@stowlicters8362
@stowlicters8362 2 месяца назад
based
@deanthechamp5669
@deanthechamp5669 21 день назад
​@@ryanorionwotanson4568yeah like when the catholic inquisition burnt Christian's at the stake for having a bible
@jordanbey870
@jordanbey870 6 месяцев назад
Gnostic informant you are all over the place. Get back to the point..
@deathguppie
@deathguppie 6 месяцев назад
His point is that the early Christians were all over the place. The end result was a collection of what bubbled to the surface. His point is that nothing there looks like the jews playing 4d chess there.
@mkworkgroupis1739
@mkworkgroupis1739 6 месяцев назад
Init. Formulate your point.
@baarbacoa
@baarbacoa 6 месяцев назад
There is no point because it's an argument that requires facts, and there are no facts that I'm aware of that supports or refutes the claim.
@s0urp0wer5
@s0urp0wer5 6 месяцев назад
"The reason I'm saying this...."
@cerin59
@cerin59 4 месяца назад
​@@deathguppieagreed
@Diogenes_43
@Diogenes_43 6 месяцев назад
Christianity was the woke mob of Rome.
@todradmaker4297
@todradmaker4297 6 месяцев назад
Can you define woke for me?
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 6 месяцев назад
@@todradmaker4297 Its originally a Black Hebrew Israelite thing about being awake to the lies of the white devil’s lies in history, some years later it was used specifically by left wing groups for being awake to injustices done to marginalised groups. Now it is used mockingly by their detractors (boomers) to describe people who would in fact be obsessed with righting those perceived wrongs by any means necessary, like how a schizophrenic is “woke” to the fact that his family are government agents sent to keep him from living freely or whatever. To simplify as much as possible, it’s the delusional view that you are aware of a Truth that others do not know and are willing to take actions to realise this Truth (This can tie it back to the original comment) I don’t like it personally and avoid using it, but it’s pretty straightforward what it means.
@ETF6661
@ETF6661 6 месяцев назад
@@todradmaker4297 Favoring the minority and/or lower class of people above the natural hierarchy of society. Essentially being the champion of the lumpenproletariat at the expense of normal, healthy people in the middle and the aristocrats at the top. The difference in modern times is that our ruling class are degenerates themselves and work with the lower rungs of society to wage war on the middle.
@jamesonhook1405
@jamesonhook1405 6 месяцев назад
They also killed alot of Christians . But eventually The Romans used it as a way to retain power and keep the sheep in order .
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 6 месяцев назад
@@fosterbennington6405 we will send those black hebrews back to africa where true israel is
@scottmcloughlin4371
@scottmcloughlin4371 6 месяцев назад
More or less, yes. Organized more than "invented." And infiltrate more than "conquer."
@thevicious2003
@thevicious2003 6 месяцев назад
Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.
@fullytokd
@fullytokd 6 месяцев назад
Followed by a jwy explanation about how it's actually a metaphor about disowning your parents if they don't follow the teachings of christ themselves. Aka if they don't love their masters, disown them
@odinofelohim3510
@odinofelohim3510 6 месяцев назад
@@fullytokd john7 1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
@fullytokd
@fullytokd 6 месяцев назад
@@odinofelohim3510 Did the homework for you. Matthew 9:5 Peter said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters-one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
@odinofelohim3510
@odinofelohim3510 6 месяцев назад
@@fullytokd 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
@odinofelohim3510
@odinofelohim3510 6 месяцев назад
@@fullytokd 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. So the bible condemns the Jews call then contrary to all men sez there the synagogue of satin but its a Jewish book shore maybe you 1 of the synagogue of satin with your Rabbie Green hahahahah.
@jamesonhook1405
@jamesonhook1405 6 месяцев назад
Lev has some really whack kosher takes .
@bigjon1359
@bigjon1359 2 месяца назад
amazing talk, thanks for bringing this to the public
@guertinD61
@guertinD61 3 месяца назад
I don't like Neal's logic when he says "Well the Messiah is never going to actually come so there's nothing to worry about." The belief in the coming of the Messiah can still do a lot of harm. Look at the Bar Kokhba revolt and the previous wars. Read about the massacres in Cyrenaica during the Kitos war. Look at Gaza right now. A lot of damage can be done because you have the false belief that your enemies are about to be made into your footstool.
@φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικός
Good point!👏🏼
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 6 месяцев назад
I’m an hour in and it is so obvious that these guys are bending over backwards not to link Judaism to Egyptian spirituality. WHY? Most of the core metaphysics in Judaism are a direct ‘borrowing’ of Egyptian religion-- no more so than the Ten Commandments. Reworked of course, but it is not possible to miss it although clearly easy to omit it from any assessment. And yes, they borrowed from the Persians, too. Charles Giuliani has a very detailed series on the Hyksos which offers overwhelming evidence of this but none of these guys will give it the time of day. The 18th dynasty was saturated with these Hebrew Hyksos Pharaohs.... And I want to point out that most of the symbolism today where ever the Hebrews are in power is Egyptian and not Persian. Most of our royal EL ites today in Europe have their roots from these Hyksos lines.
@jeorgebanman5314
@jeorgebanman5314 6 месяцев назад
No one’s bending over backwards denying parts of Judaism came from Egypt, I mean the Israelites literally got circumcision from the Egyptians. Gnostic Informant goes over all the different origin theories of the Bible. There’s no conspiracy there. I don’t know about the Hyksos still being around. But linking Judaism with Egyptian spiritualism is definitely recognized by these guys.
@buymybooks437
@buymybooks437 6 месяцев назад
Where is Charles Giuliani these days?
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 6 месяцев назад
@@jeorgebanman5314 You’ve missed my point. I believe, in the internet age, they do know that Judaism is Egyptian Spirituality and more so for Kabbalah. But not talking publicly about it is something that is worth asking WHY? Why don’t they want to make this connection publicly? See Charles N Pope and The Domain of Man site where he details the genealogies of The Genes Of Isis...
@jeorgebanman5314
@jeorgebanman5314 6 месяцев назад
@@andrewmarkmusic Gnostic Informant does talk about it publicly, he’s made videos on Egyptian mythology and the Bible. He doesn’t hold a monolithic view that Judaism is Egyptian mythology but he does cover it. I’ll check the site out though, check out Russel Gmirkin’s work. He makes a pretty interesting case that for the Old Testament being much later than most think.
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 6 месяцев назад
@@jeorgebanman5314 Interesting that google news says there is another planet out there...Got Enlil and Enki? Perhaps.
@SaralinaLove
@SaralinaLove 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this AWESOME "debate" / discussion! Absolutely the BEST humans on here. All 3 of you were sooo respectful of each other and of yourselves! Made it sooo enjoyable to listen to each of you! We need more debates with this really cool vibe. I feel you are all so SANE. Thank you for this BRILLIANTLY educational and lovely video!!
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 6 месяцев назад
yep
@cristristam9054
@cristristam9054 6 месяцев назад
I like Neal a lot on every religious topic but I am 1.5 hours in and I still don't understand his argument. Eventually he says "yeah those are some verses from the Torah" but doesn't counter with verses who says the opposite (there aren't any) and also does not bring any context where those verses meaning would be changed. VERY STRANGE.
@LucidMusicIncRecordings
@LucidMusicIncRecordings 6 месяцев назад
Adam thinks Biblical texts were written as a psy-op political weapon. Niel thinks Biblical texts were copied or syncretised from much older sources.
@skylerasbridge3507
@skylerasbridge3507 6 месяцев назад
Neal doesn't know much
@cerin59
@cerin59 4 месяца назад
There aren't any "verses to the counter" the Hebrew except reading the earlier source texts, which those who can read seem to all agree are Greek. If I were unwilling to learn ancient Greek to verify claims myself, I would look to those who can actually read the primary Greek sources, to understand what they say, before adopting imaginative shots in the dark by students of esoterica, theology, or history.
@cerin59
@cerin59 4 месяца назад
​@@skylerasbridge3507 he knows your mom
@crushinnihilism
@crushinnihilism 2 месяца назад
Hia argument is "hey, look over here! Don't see the jews."
@LeggoMyTailyPo
@LeggoMyTailyPo 6 месяцев назад
What is frightening to me about ancient texts that make prophecies. People who believe it enough will make it come true where it would not have otherwise. It becomes even more dangerous over time as it gets reinterpreted. Prophecies that the writers intended to come in their time. Everyone after that who still believes it, interpret it to be coming in their time, the ones who don't know at least want it to come in their time. And some think of they fulfill all of the outlined events then they can make the prophecy come true. It is almost as if they think they can force the hand of God if they fulfill all the requirements to make it occur when they want rather than when God planned it. But they will always believe God was telling them to do it and they were just a servant of gods will and it all occured on God's timeline anyway. Despite them setting it in motion. That's dangerous.
@nezz0r
@nezz0r 6 месяцев назад
It is. It can happen for big or small things. Here is an active example: Isaiah 61:5-6 "5Strangers will stand and pasture your flocks, And foreigners will be your farmers and your vinedressers." Search for: "christians volunteering as vinedressers in israel" and checkout the reason.
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 6 месяцев назад
This. The best part about prophecy is that you the observer are the guy who can make it happen (This is why Israel even exists and why American fundamentalists support it). You, the reader, can be King Arthur, Lord Kalki, Maitreya Buddha, etc and push the cycle of the world.
@MuktiArno
@MuktiArno 6 месяцев назад
I agree 100%. It seems like prophecies are being used as a script by elite to follow and make things come about as if it's godly.
@LeggoMyTailyPo
@LeggoMyTailyPo 6 месяцев назад
@@fosterbennington6405 that's a more consice way of saying what I said. If you already know the prophecy, then you have the power to make it happen. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this. It's also why you can't kill an ideology. Even if no one believes it anymore, someone somewhere will find some old writings or read a biography about it and decide it's a good idea. That's why we have neo-nazis when it's safe to say not many original Nazis are alive today, and they definitely aren't very active at 90 something years old. It's these weirdos that aren't even German decent and if so not enough to count for anything, who hear the rhetoric and decide it's a good idea. Many of them never even had a family member in the war on the Nazi side(I don't say the German side because I do not blame the German people in general for what their regime at the time did. And definitely not any current German who had nothing to do with it especially if they weren't born yet. That's just logical and fair.)
@IbnRushd-mv3fp
@IbnRushd-mv3fp 6 месяцев назад
I love this "omg let me crawl up in a ball and die" mentality because it's so selective, people from the 60's to 80's literally manifested a cyberpunk dystopian nightmare but you're focusing on dungeons and dragons "abracadabra" shit.
@jordanbey870
@jordanbey870 6 месяцев назад
Adam Green is the Boss...
@baarbacoa
@baarbacoa 6 месяцев назад
He never made a factual point. Just inserted a bunch of opinions
@neanderthulean8152
@neanderthulean8152 6 месяцев назад
@@baarbacoaYou’re either being completely disingenuous or you literally didn’t watch the same video that everyone else watched.
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 6 месяцев назад
I think you meant Adam Green is an idiot.
@wilb6657
@wilb6657 6 месяцев назад
Yeah-the boss cryptojew.
@jordanbey870
@jordanbey870 6 месяцев назад
@@wilb6657 Adam is not..
@GnosticElohim
@GnosticElohim Месяц назад
Wow, Adam Geen and Gnostic Informant, you couldn't ask for two more informed human beings to have a civil, factual and intellectually stimulating discussion.
@Syzygy77
@Syzygy77 4 месяца назад
Wouldn’t it be reasonable to think the Jews in Judea at the time knew of all these Greek and Roman cult beliefs, and if they wanted to subdue Rome they could create this “new” cult but with references to Jewish texts to place the Jewish people as the Nation for which the Christian god comes from?
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 4 месяца назад
No.
@Adamantos-Elean
@Adamantos-Elean 3 месяца назад
@@bigol9223 lol
@pep-rz1gp
@pep-rz1gp 3 месяца назад
It doesn't even matter what most of the group thinks. What maters is what those in power think. The prime minister of Israel says "we will realize the prophecy of Isaiah", what more proof do you need? There is no conspiracy. The prophecies become real because they make them so with their actions.
@imitatioDei
@imitatioDei 6 месяцев назад
For gnostic informant to say it is surprising that alot of Hebrew words have Persian origin is in itself surprising considering he has learned so much history. Let's not forget that the legend goes Abraham was noble from uruk. Part of the Persian empire at the time. So kinda makes perfect sense.
@SBrown-ti8xe
@SBrown-ti8xe 2 месяца назад
Hebrew is just proto-Greek
@sathdk79
@sathdk79 Месяц назад
Esther is said to have infiltrated Persia and set the likes of Darius and Xerxes in motion.
@Christine-g9i
@Christine-g9i 4 месяца назад
This is so important.
@SF61984
@SF61984 6 месяцев назад
It's disappointing to hear Lev fall back on the old "It's because jews are so smart." Or is it rather that jews choose to spend their time studying history and human nature more so than so-called "gentiles?" Which is an admirable trait, by the way. Wsterners that spend their days playing video games and watching porn have no business blaming jews for their lack of education. I'm also agnostic, but Ideologically, i can't really be an anti-Zionist because i believe in the right of all people having self-determination and some land to live on peacefully where they can (hopefully) live in peace. RU-vid seems to think I'm a "right-wing Nazi" just because i had an interest in exploring World War 2 history from the Axis side and the allies. It appears we're not able to do any longer.
@Tehz1359
@Tehz1359 4 месяца назад
They don't want you looking any further into ww2 then what is taught in schools. Because the story they tell about ww2 serves as justification of the entire world order we live under. If their narrative of that war crumbles, then so does their legitimacy.
@Ifoldforweed
@Ifoldforweed Месяц назад
not entirely true. if you think about it, most of the famous intellectual jews are trained in germany. I personally think the thora/ talmut encourage soziopathic behaviour. even the term gentile is quite supremist. blaming your own failure on the jews is pitiful. how do you came to the conculusion, the zionist deserve a home country? if we look at history, the jews are awful steward of countries. in all of history, you paid the price for freedom or land in blood of your own people. so if you are interested in the Nazi's, did you ever check which books they burned? magnus hirschfeld and sigmund freund to example. if you don't study the weimarer republic, you are unable to understand WW2.
@u-N16z0rz
@u-N16z0rz 6 месяцев назад
Both Adam and Neal conducted themselves admirably. That said, Neal's explanation leaves a lot do be desired. The argument boils down to: "How does one account for the state of the world, the arc of world historical development over the past 2000 years, and the relationship of the tribe to these things?" Whereas Adam cites direct textual references by tribe members who in essence predict/express a desire to bring about the current state of the world and the arc of world historical development that we have seen over the past 2000 years, and on this basis deems it as a sufficient explanation, Neal, in spite of this, contends that it must simply be a coincidence. Neal 1:17:55 "It _happens to be_ that the major three religions of the world sort of believe in these prophets". "They're not really different from any other religious zealots". Well, if this is the case, then how in the world did they end up taking over the majority of the world? If it's no different from other religious zealots, who were demonstrably larger in number, and greater in military and cultural prowess, then how the heck did it end up winning out? It's just a coincidence. That's just the way the chips fell. Sorry, but that falls completely flat. It fails as an explanation, because it's a trivial solution-- a valid response to any question about any state of affairs. It's the equivalent to shrugging and saying "IDK, it is what it is".
@Wrathful2000
@Wrathful2000 4 месяца назад
But they didn’t end up taking over the world. The Jews have historically been oppressed and neither Judaism, Islam or Christianity agree with each other or get along. They all hate each other. Christians see Israel as a useful tool to the end times and Jesus returning, but also hate the Jews from killing God and not believing. They want the Jews to convert or die, as has been shown throughout history. Muslims don’t like either religion either: see current events. Muslims don’t like anyone but Muslims hence Pakistan as a nation split from India because they don’t like Hinduism
@thoughtful1233
@thoughtful1233 Месяц назад
I'm not sure I disagree with you, but I do think that some things are too complex to be modeled comprehensibly.
@u-N16z0rz
@u-N16z0rz Месяц назад
@@thoughtful1233 Hence popular antisemitism
@thoughtful1233
@thoughtful1233 Месяц назад
@@u-N16z0rz Ah, but there's a lot of intent expressed by modern Jews because they are Jews. The criticisms may be too broad, but anti-semitism has a lot of basis.
@seth1184
@seth1184 2 месяца назад
"Know my rabbi's... Don't clip that" 🤣🤣🤣 well done Adam
@SaitoriAscenso
@SaitoriAscenso Месяц назад
Rare debate online. Mutual respect. They allowed one another time to talk. They agreed from time to time. I don't know if they actually listened to on another with the intent to learn but they seemed to. This should should be spread as an example of how a debate should unfold.
@Kazmology
@Kazmology Месяц назад
Excellent debate. I love both Adam and Neal.
@Mr._Warlight
@Mr._Warlight 6 месяцев назад
1:00:38 building on Adam's statement here, also in the Second Temple Period, different Hebraic sects massacred each other, like Kings Jannaeus and the Sadducees massacred thousands of Pharisees forcing them to flee to the Dead Sea and Alexandria. One of several such occasions. They were almost wiped out until the Pharisees started secretly assassinating Sadducee leaders which they don't directly admit to doing in their accounts.
@Mr._Warlight
@Mr._Warlight 6 месяцев назад
Both of these experts have presented compelling information for Christianity. What a fun, informative discussion. Neal has more information about the later dispersion of Christianity and pre Christian landscape. Adam has less overall information, however he is more correct about the first Christians.
@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew
@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew 5 месяцев назад
All speculation that has no physical proof it existed, is the foundation of Christianity, its was all a myth
@ashleyeva2196
@ashleyeva2196 2 месяца назад
The "maybe we don't have free will" quip at around the 38 minute mark from Neal made me laugh till I cried.
@freethinker79
@freethinker79 6 месяцев назад
"Yaldabaoth himself chose a certain man named Abraham from among the nations and made a covenant with him. To the effect that, if his seed continued to serve him, the Archons would give to them the Earth for their inheritance. Afterwards, by means of Moses, Yaldaboath brought forth Abraham's descendants from Egypt, and gave them the law, and made them Jews." --Irenaeus, "Against Heresies" (book 1, chapter 30, section 10)
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 4 месяца назад
I hope you aren't quoting this in support of what his book dismantles lol
@Adamantos-Elean
@Adamantos-Elean 3 месяца назад
@@bigol9223 Please stop being delusional.
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 3 месяца назад
@@Adamantos-Elean please stop sending me worthless replies
@nevamoore7363
@nevamoore7363 4 месяца назад
So far up to the 1:23 minute mark and whoever the guy Adam? is KNOW MORE NEWS he’s comprehensively, historically versed and presents very succinctly, WOW… still listening. If this is a debate then he is hands down winning. The clips of Rabbis he played are jaw dropping…
@angelosenteio
@angelosenteio 17 дней назад
Your both right, The Roman’s were aware of the Jewish scriptures and possibly appropriated the concept of conquering enemies through a melding of religions.
@Francisco-eu8fs
@Francisco-eu8fs 2 месяца назад
I am pleasantly surprised to find this level of debate on yt
@AnuddaGoy
@AnuddaGoy 6 месяцев назад
Based
@xencraig
@xencraig 3 месяца назад
the spirit, aesthetics, and main experience of christmas remain very pagan, very norse, very germanic. the jesus part of christmas is the "side show" we all put up with until its time for mistletoe, evergreen tree ornaments, and a big dinner at a long table, meditations on winter, and elves that come down the chimney. i think Know More News is a little paranoid. the rabbi celebrating christmas has to say so because christmas remains intimidating to him. its really a pagan bulwark, a testament to nature, mystery, and real, private love. Neal is resurrecting the pagan formations of christianity, and breaking down the myths of a non-pagan judaism, returning them to the earth they sprung from.
@ausonius100
@ausonius100 Месяц назад
Turn to Jesus Christ in faith and gain eternal life! He is divine life itself at last come to fallen mankind!
@sandozkarika
@sandozkarika 6 месяцев назад
Great interview! Neil please write a book. It will sell. So much to cover.
@realFilthyJesus
@realFilthyJesus 5 месяцев назад
Oh shit, Adam on RU-vid!! Never thought I’d see that again
@beatsbyjiro8291
@beatsbyjiro8291 6 месяцев назад
Jews were Iranian priesthood that left to start a satellite country in Philistine, and incorporated the locals and gave them this religion ritual and books, what do yall think?
@mkworkgroupis1739
@mkworkgroupis1739 6 месяцев назад
That would make the Jews aryan
@beatsbyjiro8291
@beatsbyjiro8291 6 месяцев назад
@@mkworkgroupis1739 Not if they mixed with Caanites who were already there.
@TheCaus
@TheCaus 6 месяцев назад
@@mkworkgroupis1739 Robert Sepher claims this
@mill_mount
@mill_mount 6 месяцев назад
No zoroastrianism is way different from judaism
@beatsbyjiro8291
@beatsbyjiro8291 6 месяцев назад
​@@mill_mount by this theory judaism proper wouldnt be much older than 500BC with ideas like 'cosmic' angels, good vs evil, and a messiah, and world to come: these eastern ideas would merge with the native canaanite religion to become 2nd temple judaica which became christianity, again its only a theory but i think its worth a look
@michellemurphy895
@michellemurphy895 4 месяца назад
Christianity appealed to the indo europeans because it was their religion and deities reworked. The history of Justinian and Theodora, the machinations are weaved into the fabric of that society, clearly infiltrated, and manipulated. The change to certain characteristics on coinage clearly indicates whom is responsible. I thought most of these individuals wouldn't shy away from appropriate acknowledgement or criticism, I was wrong.
@giuseppenuzzaci69
@giuseppenuzzaci69 Месяц назад
adam is for me a true humaniste,
@jean-lucmechantcon2424
@jean-lucmechantcon2424 6 месяцев назад
What's the name of the book Adam Green refers to again ? I can't remember what time laps he mentions it. Great debate, Adam is the man !
@lesweenmachine
@lesweenmachine 6 месяцев назад
Was it the darkening age? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7CMXXzSD-mo.htmlsi=rR3Sp-I3jeGzhoaR
@Lexthebarbarian
@Lexthebarbarian 5 месяцев назад
I consider it one of the greatest enigmas and mysteries of history, how a small pacifist Jewish sect could become the state religion of an empire built on strength, power and conquest. How could this happen?
@captaindiabetes4244
@captaindiabetes4244 3 месяца назад
Pretty simple actually. It's not Jewish.. Esoteric Jewish is a complete diff thing and it converts people to remain hidden so the powers you think got over taken were simply all working together all along
@stevenschoeffler8036
@stevenschoeffler8036 6 месяцев назад
To destroy rome that was its purpose
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 6 месяцев назад
If that was true it would have to be the biggest failure in history. It's not true though.
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 6 месяцев назад
@@thedude9941 lol . imagine christianity without romans .lmao would be a worthless religion
@DanielGarza-fc1no
@DanielGarza-fc1no 2 месяца назад
All roads lead to rome
@Archons88
@Archons88 6 месяцев назад
I guess not even the 'gnostic informant' can articulate the alchemical roots of the bible. Everyone in this field misses the point, competition of ego
@cerin59
@cerin59 4 месяца назад
For an omniscient worm boy you sure are pretty dense
@Archons88
@Archons88 4 месяца назад
@cerin59 The Bene Gesserit have informed me your reply is uninspiring and lacks nuance.
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 6 месяцев назад
The Bible is satire
@johnhartyoung
@johnhartyoung 6 месяцев назад
As "Caesar's Messiah" (Joseph Atwill & "Creating Christ", Valliant and Fahy,) "will have it, Christianity as we know it was more or less invented, or at least redirected, by two members of the Flavian dynasty, Emperor Vespasian and his son (and eventual emperor) Titus, as a way of enforcing docility on zealous Jewish sects who wanted pagan Rome out of Jerusalem and out of their lives. The new cult synthesized a variety of pagan symbols, gods, and traditions and, of course, the messianic concept itself to impel the rebels to obey the authorities and honor the emperor. Vespasian himself, it is argued, was the Son of Man predicted by Jesus in Matthew 24:34, who came within one generation of Christ’s crucifixion to ruthlessly punish the rebellious and, ultimately, bring peace upon the land." - Acton Institute
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 6 месяцев назад
@@johnhartyoung yeah, that nonsense suffers from sincerity bias. Lol the Bible is soundly in the tradition of satire that predates it by thousands of years lol
@johnhartyoung
@johnhartyoung 6 месяцев назад
@@MandyMoorehol All three of these guys, though very knowledgeable, don't seem to be aware of this research or simply dismiss it out of hand.
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 6 месяцев назад
@@deleteduser121 lol no sweetheart. You clearly know nothing about satire lol
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 6 месяцев назад
@@johnhartyoung ugh, I was on one of these guys shows talking about satire. lol have you considered knowing about about what you are talking about or do you prefer to flap you hands around like an overstimulated autistic girl?
@jonbinki9651
@jonbinki9651 6 месяцев назад
Proto Indo European Base Culture formed the foundation for all kinds of psychological cultural archetypes... which in turn formed the basis for all these myths and pantheons, throughout the Antique world, that all clearly are based on the same blueprint; are all variations of archteypical interactions and environments of humans.... from myths about (fresh drinking) water, fire and storm....life and death... heavens and underworld..... relations such as the 2 brothers, the Sky father, the Earth mother, cows, bulls and goats, creation stories etc etc etc... Hebrew mythology in that regard is not unlike any other sub-cultural mythology.. It's just they keep upholding it as the only truth, And it seems people are unable to openly address the fact that their mythology is essentially plagiarized on older stories (which is fine, but clearly has nothing to do with reality or history)....
@IbnRushd-mv3fp
@IbnRushd-mv3fp 6 месяцев назад
Whatever anglo warrior, you'll always find some excuse to make it seem like you're special.
@IbnRushd-mv3fp
@IbnRushd-mv3fp 6 месяцев назад
Basically you're gonna play the "y'all biting my style" game on a fucking multi-millennial level? 😂 are you REALLY trying to suggest you're ethnically in "ownership" of basic human heuristics?
@NightsideOfParadise
@NightsideOfParadise 6 месяцев назад
​@@IbnRushd-mv3fpProjecting insecurity. Dude is simply talking history of religion.
@IbnRushd-mv3fp
@IbnRushd-mv3fp 6 месяцев назад
OK so us hispanics conquered america first right?, so does that make britain's aspirations to do the same some carbon copy simply by virtue of them coming to the same economic conclusions of "HEY we need land/resources/to spread our culture"?
@IbnRushd-mv3fp
@IbnRushd-mv3fp 6 месяцев назад
@@NightsideOfParadise BULLSHIT you're trying to play the same game these coin collectors play, "uwu my history just happens to be more important than yours lol, accept your place goy." no F--- you sir, I'm not conceding to germanic fan fiction. ✋
@victorblack6995
@victorblack6995 6 месяцев назад
It's very simple. He who speaks for your GOD.......becomes GOD to you! This is because The Law is under God. And guess what? SO ARE YOU. Anyone who comes to you representing God, my advise is RUN in the other direction!
@StennMathis
@StennMathis 2 месяца назад
Said a similar thing for a decade now...If a mortal comes to you claiming he or she represents 'immortality', walk away...
@thoughtful1233
@thoughtful1233 Месяц назад
I think at around 2:14:00 Devon Stack would be a great contributor to this stream. I don't think Lev is entirely wrong, but there's an upper echelon among these people that is much more motivated against Europeans than he seems to imagine, not to mention many people who see their host society as something to take from in any way possible.
@BryanKirch
@BryanKirch 5 месяцев назад
Can you make up your mind. The only common thread is you don’t like Christianity it doesn’t matter of it was a drug cult or a myth or made up you’ll accept anything as long is it’s that Jesus never existed regardless of the proof.
@jasonhilliker2266
@jasonhilliker2266 6 месяцев назад
Bring CJB into the conversation
@Erosgates
@Erosgates 4 месяца назад
That would cause an earthquake
@Adamantos-Elean
@Adamantos-Elean 3 месяца назад
who is cjb?
@Erosgates
@Erosgates 3 месяца назад
@@Adamantos-Elean Johnathan bjorknes I believe is his name. He explains Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism & how it applies to modern day “prophecy fulfillment” or how world events are manipulated & presented in order to sway the minds & beliefs of Abrahamic religion followers.
@Erosgates
@Erosgates 3 месяца назад
@@Adamantos-Elean driving so I kinda just spat this reply out sorry if it doesn’t make too much sense. Find his RU-vid channel
@rajrai4086
@rajrai4086 4 месяца назад
Adam ruled, Neil can't explain things to normal people. He talks as if we are scholars, Adam is to the point and simple. I have only seen Neil on Lady Babylon and when I listened to him for first time on his channel, I get sleepy...
@asyla3389
@asyla3389 3 месяца назад
This whole podcast was useless when Neal spoke. I just wanted to hear Adam period
@reneaburto3373
@reneaburto3373 Месяц назад
Great job Mr. Green.
@newdawnrising8110
@newdawnrising8110 5 месяцев назад
Hey guys let me make a radical suggestion here as to the question about why Christianity grew so fast through out the Roman Empire. 1. Christians had been repressed for about 300 years so secretly there were a lot of them underground per se’. 2. It was made the official religion of the Empire with Constantine thus basically mandating its observance. 3. The most radical idea ever being that the man actually rose from the dead and it blew the minds of the disciples and everyone so much that they were so excited at this “sign of Jonah”. By the sheer impossibility of it all actually happening that men risked and even gave their lives to promote the teachings of the Jewish Messiah who had come. Guys all your skepticism and rebellious stuff is very cute and you are clearly so avant-garde that no one can trick you into believing some fake religious crap right. But pls consider that when you face the Godhead one day, if you are extremely blessed and lucky like St. Paul, then it will become clear that this God the Father and Creator of the universe can do anything He damn well wants with something less then ease. I mean this all powerful Creator of the universe who still continues to create everything we see, touch and taste every second of every day you will realize that for him a miraculous conception, an incarnation (after sending all His prophets who were killed btw) thus forcing Him to incarnate in the body of this man Jesus who would be brutally executed by these animals. Why would He not come back to show the world and especially his doubters and murderers just who is in charge here on Earth and in the Heavens. The Orthodox say He even went down to hell to set the captives free and defeat satan there. They say He allowed Satan to eat him and when Satan realized he had eaten God, I guess like Neo diving into the chest of the agent, then erupted destroying the Devil without even needing to lift one violent finger. Yea I’m pretty sure this Deity can do whatever He wants. For some reason He keeps blessing and providing for me and the other 7 or so billion more or less who like me don’t deserve to lick the dust off His sandals. Think about this very real fact for a while and some truths might sneak in behind that safety wall of skepticism you have built up yourself to hide behind from this all powerful God who is the Truth and wishes to introduce Himself to you… Glory to God for all things!!! Happy Good Friday gentlemen and Happy Pascha to all!! May the Holy Fire come down early this spring!! And may Christ Return this evening like a thief in the night!! Then blow away the myths, the little children’s stories and these so called philosophers day dreams!!! ✌🏻❤️☦️🔥🎉🕺🏻💃
@mattmcauley2791
@mattmcauley2791 6 месяцев назад
How do I subscribe to know more news?
@Popwwe649
@Popwwe649 5 месяцев назад
rumble
@scy1484
@scy1484 6 месяцев назад
This was a great debate/conversation.
@damnyankeesdaughter5427
@damnyankeesdaughter5427 6 месяцев назад
Rome, the Holy Roman Empire, isn’t that the Vatican?
@Simon.the.Likeable
@Simon.the.Likeable 6 месяцев назад
@ 45:12 - It is easy to label Adam as anti-Semitic as way to overturn his arguments. However, it is impossible to refute direct quotes from scriptures, rabbis, etc. Adam's reputation has been impacted by his association with people like Hennrick, CJB, even going back as far as Jake Morphonios, who might rightfully wear that label. From today, Adam needs to shake any possibility of having that label stick to him in future if he is to make a real and lasting difference with his work.
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 6 месяцев назад
That dumb word has no meaning, anything and everything is judeomisic to these people. They never attack the central points or main arguments. It pushes people further away and makes them embrace the meme of "antis-mitism".
@acaydia2982
@acaydia2982 6 месяцев назад
Wanting to conquer the world is nothing new. They don’t realize “The Known World” is what they knew. God Wars have been happening for thousands of years before Christianity or Judaism. I loathe how they pretend that Romans didn’t make people sacrifice to their gods or Persians. The people that conquered throughout history, conquered what they had the ability to do.
@coldwater5707
@coldwater5707 5 месяцев назад
I don't think so. We need to, and this is happening, shake the fear of any association with virtually anybody that calls out Zionism.
@avrevs
@avrevs 6 месяцев назад
The Jews weren't in Egypt's backyard, they were in Lower Egypt (northern). They are clearly the remnant of the Hyksos combined with other random tribes in the Canaan area. Their religion is a hodgepodge of Yaweh/El/Ba'alism but the true base of it is Setianism from Egypt. They mixed in many mythologies from Sumer/Babylon etc. But the basis of that religion and Kabbalah is a corrupted, engram implanting worship of the Ancient Evil with a zionist psychosis focused on Tikkun Olam and transhumanism.
@Auden1433
@Auden1433 6 месяцев назад
Very true, Set, the god of chaos and the foreigner... And they are foreign to earth!
@jacobedminster7006
@jacobedminster7006 6 месяцев назад
Been waiting for this one all week
@davidscalais
@davidscalais 6 месяцев назад
Just started watching Adam’s idea are based in material and Niel is into gnosis which is metaphysical one left brain one right brain the two pillars when a spiritual system is established there will always be those who try do be in opposition or those who misunderstand the esoteric doctrine
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 4 месяца назад
Two sides of being very knowledgeable and completely wrong.
@Alpharooq
@Alpharooq 6 месяцев назад
Sounds is just horrible, Neal constantly comes off loud af that it scares the shit out of the me. Sound volume balance non existent
@breakth3rules
@breakth3rules 6 месяцев назад
Fixed it a few mins after Neal talks. Should be balanced after
@pjr5913
@pjr5913 6 месяцев назад
Too bad that coward jay dyer wont debate Green. Green would mop the floors with him.
@JohnVander70
@JohnVander70 6 месяцев назад
i doubt it, Dyer is a very sharp and disciplined thinker.
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 4 месяца назад
Would be redundant as Adam has already failed in a debate against Jay's Orthodox positions.
@Adamantos-Elean
@Adamantos-Elean 3 месяца назад
@@JohnVander70 dyer is a puppet, I like him but I've yet to hear anything even bordering original.
@Adamantos-Elean
@Adamantos-Elean 3 месяца назад
@@bigol9223 You can't fail against delusion unless you embrace it; the delusional fail themselves and the species.
@46b35
@46b35 2 месяца назад
I agree with the guy with the hat. To many assumption behind the argument to even get it to argument stage.
@claytonjones9853
@claytonjones9853 5 месяцев назад
This is a great conversation I myself have wrestled with and will continue to for a long time
@wayneparry
@wayneparry Месяц назад
Cannanite, babalonian jews created Christianity with pagan mythology to control an empire when it got to big they created Islam to control the other side without having to create one big empire religion that they could use to fight each other to make them managable and easy to control
@ROCK-PETER
@ROCK-PETER 6 месяцев назад
Ahhh and after being given the gift of life and after everything that’s happened in the past so you can know morality and freedom, You deny the one who paid for your sins so you can experience your eternity? This is NUTS
@lesweenmachine
@lesweenmachine 6 месяцев назад
1:31:00 quite literally the definition of using Israelis as human shields. That would be Israel strategically using the ever expanding settlers as a “buffer zone”
@skullbong
@skullbong Месяц назад
@1:18 when Adam asks the leading question about, if the Abrahamics were ..just the one that were successful... and Neal agrees, don't bury the lede >>successful up until now
@thoughtful1233
@thoughtful1233 Месяц назад
I don't know why people get so wound up about Mythicism. I almost wish the term didn't exist. Within the cultural soup of that time, whether "a guy" existed or not is almost irrelevant to someone seeking truth. So they found a guy to pin all of these myths to, so what? A beloved man in a Jewish sect was killed by the Sanhedrin and over the decades more and more people began winding these stories around him. Unless you're a Christian it's weird to care so much about whether "there was a guy". I know this isn't about mythicism, it just came up while listening so I'm taking the opportunity to release a rant.
@DJKrol-pv8ft
@DJKrol-pv8ft 6 месяцев назад
I'm only 2 minutes in but biblical the nations are the races.
@cerin59
@cerin59 4 месяца назад
Wow, so you came with an open mind to learn, awesome
@danielhopkins296
@danielhopkins296 5 месяцев назад
Gnostic Informant is under the false impression that languages exist in closed boxes. However, much evidence supports the OT texts being revised after the Persian period
@DoctorNERO616
@DoctorNERO616 Месяц назад
The influence of "cosmic scale conflict" dualism from Zoroastrianism on the the more tribal ( gods as national representatives) Israelites?
@TheArmchairPriest
@TheArmchairPriest 2 месяца назад
Yoo neals been on a roll, i need him to get into the fact that the islamic arabic Muhammad is based on the gnostic Catholic prophet Mani who spoke syriac and called himself the wordddd muhammad. He still needs to do his OWN research on osiris/enki though
@bryanutility9609
@bryanutility9609 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating insights guys. Seems regardless of origins & original intentions, people in this world believe & behave in measurable ways & that can always be addressed as good or bad.
@jahwatar
@jahwatar 6 месяцев назад
great! looking forward for part 2 :) (pls check sound vol)
@SH-ry2xi
@SH-ry2xi 3 месяца назад
“Lev” and “Adam” discuss Christianity 😂
@M.Anderson-101
@M.Anderson-101 Месяц назад
I think it was maybe the other way around and Rome was made to conquer Christianity before passing thier version down to others.
@Macfromwales
@Macfromwales 3 месяца назад
If only any of us could go remotely near the general vicinity of this subject sadly.... We all KNOW that we can't and they are *spits on floor* "special" 💜
@nicholasherman3275
@nicholasherman3275 5 месяцев назад
I'm just watching this fri 3 MAY 2024 and Neal start off ALL OVER THE PLACE in His opening statement
@dceased223
@dceased223 5 месяцев назад
3 pagans mad that their silly gods were defeated thousands of years ago Christ is King
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 5 месяцев назад
2:46:07 I guess that debunks Islam's idea that God can't enter creation, and it might cause problems for the Christian trinity.
@asqirl8425
@asqirl8425 6 месяцев назад
You need a audio engineer , Niel's mike level was blowing out my speakers1
@amandabartlett8749
@amandabartlett8749 2 месяца назад
Is Neal essentially agreeing w Roman Provence?
@φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικός
I kept noticing that throughout the discussion as well. Him and Jacob Berman from History Valley have a lot of hate for the idea, simply because it was popularized by James Valiant; while I don’t agree with Valiants version, I think you could still make a compelling case as to why and how it would have been done, Adam gives a decent version of such an idea.
@cristristam9054
@cristristam9054 6 месяцев назад
LEEEETTTTS go !!!!!!!1
@beecee3161
@beecee3161 6 месяцев назад
If the Jews intended to make Christianity for this reason why did they wait and not do this hundreds of years earlier when the OT prophecies should have happened? Some things don’t add up. And why would we still have a complete split from Judaism and Christianity? It would still just be Judaism with their messiah.
@666killeveryone
@666killeveryone 6 месяцев назад
I think you're missing the point of the lack of military power the "slaves" had. You have to first change the social atmosphere. The prophecy takes time. You have to first get society to accept critical theory, before you can use it to destroy society. Tikkun olam
@666killeveryone
@666killeveryone 6 месяцев назад
Christianity is judeaism for white gentiles. Ishmael is judeaism for Arab people. The intent was a reunification for jews. The scapegoat ritual failed. Jesus was an ultimate ritual of atonement. A blood sacrifice to place the sins of jews onto the back of yeshu. Christians adopted role of oppressors. See inquisions and conversions
@666killeveryone
@666killeveryone 6 месяцев назад
There are twin messiahs in judeaism. Mashiac ben yosef and mashiac ben david. There are subsects of those 2 messiahs; a messiah anointed for war(yosef) and a messiah to reward israel with oz(power). The messiah to the gentiles takes oz that was given to Satan, specifically to prob up antagonist nations to develop, all so it can be destroyed and the holy oz is transfered back to israel. It's like purposefully throwing an offensive interception so your offensive lineman can smash the shit out of the corner back that makes the interception...
@dave438-jw3
@dave438-jw3 4 месяца назад
Well, the Christian Roman Empire did last until May 1453 when the Turks finally captured New Rome the City of Constantine.
@coreywicks1451
@coreywicks1451 2 месяца назад
Say the word "Theos" five times. Now say "Zeus" five times. (Same word, different spelling. )
@doriesse824
@doriesse824 Месяц назад
How can Zeus be the Father of Jesus?
@rajrai4086
@rajrai4086 4 месяца назад
Gnostic interrupts way to much. Adam writes things down and let's him talk but he interrupts with thoughts he all the sudden remembered...
@Ifoldforweed
@Ifoldforweed Месяц назад
adam handled it extremely well. shut up neil, is kind of common, when he talks with ammon.
@kevlark3184
@kevlark3184 6 месяцев назад
Christianity is an invention from God to save everyone from themselves.
@talktome3361
@talktome3361 6 месяцев назад
No evidence of Judaism until the Hasmonean dynasty - fact
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 6 месяцев назад
Not true there are texts that date to around 600 BC. It's the Ketef Hinnom scroll.
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 4 месяца назад
@@thedude9941no evidence of a Hebrew Bible until the Septuagint
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 4 месяца назад
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 It was likely oral for much of history, before it could be written down. If you mean there was no canon until the Septuagint, that's not really something anyone disagrees about. Most Jewish and Christian sources say themselves that the Hebrew Bible was canonized during the Hellenistic era.
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 4 месяца назад
@@thedude9941 no evidence of Judaism before the Septuagint only Yahwehism
@davidmontoute2074
@davidmontoute2074 3 месяца назад
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 , and even Yahweh coexisted with other gods whom the hebrews simultaneously worshipped, at least in Elephantine.
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