Is Christianity False if Judaism is False? 

We need more videos like this, people must stop linking modern Judaism with Biblical Judaism.

They like to gloss over that Judaism today is a newer religion that came about hundreds of years after Christianity. It isnt old testament Judaism.

Paradoxically, for me another very convincing fact is that the majority of the Jewish people have... rejected Christ - which fulfills the prophecy in Isaiah 53.

This is a very controversial topic--though it shouldn't be. The Judaism of the old testament (the old "covenant") has finished. Christ, the LOGOS, replaced it with a new covenant, but those who did not want to give up the old covenant now openly and actively reject LOGOS. EMJ, anyone?

Milo (not the name on his birth certificate) was born and raised Catholic, abused by a priest, became rampantly gay and then seems to have drawn back to that and reverted back to being a Catholic. Also he did say he had some Jewish heritage.

The amount of prophesy in the Old Testament that came true, especially in the time of Jesus Christ, is insane. Historically confirmed prophesy.

I think a conversation with EMJ is in order. Logos is rising indeed.

There is also the wealth of Second Temple literature, that rabbinic Judaism does not recognize and intentionally ignores because of the messianic themes that were so prevalent before and during the time of Jesus..

Martin Goodman's book "Rome and Jerusalem" is an excellent read and (unintentionally) supports that current rabbinic Judaism is a new religion created after the destruction of Temple, not a continuation of the old.

It is also important to note that Rabbinic/Talmudic Judaism only dates from the 6th Century A.D.

I converted to Catholicism at 20, it wasn't until about 25 years later that I realized due to the teaching of Father Wolfe that Modern Judaism is NEWER than Christianity in fact it is a reaction to it. Biblical Judaism WAS true, modern Judaism IS NOT. I am gratified to see how many of my Catholic brethren know this.

I really like your videos. You have a nice calming presence.

Saints Luke and Paul were both scholars and well educated, just saying.

I believe Milo's a lifelong Catholic. He has been straightforward about not living in accordance with the faith while still claiming to believe it.

Hello I was recently at the costco in calgary and noticed they only had halal options for their whole chicken , chicken full wing and chicken legs. It was their Kirkland brand. I was extremely disappointed as I do like Costco. When supermarkets start having halal only choices you will find that the rendering factories where the chickens are slaughtered will have a predominantly muslim and then shortly thereafter an exclusively muslim workforce. Note also that money spent on halal products does end up supporting islamic causes and in certain cases the subjugation of Christians. Please boycott halal food. Anything with the halal symbol. This incudes the Nandos sauce and walmart brand chips. In the country I originated from halal has become the only option for chicken & beef. Please do not let that happen in Canada.

"Barba tenus sapientes" Latin quote, which means "Wise as far as his beard"

Thank you so much for discussing this in such detail. Id been pondering this question for a very long time

This is a good treatment of the topic. Great job, Brian. The only thing I would add is a little more historical information. After the Babylonian Exile (which ended around 538 BC), the Jews returned to the lands of Judah, but they had been populated by various Canaanite tribes. During their time in Babylon, and after their return to the lands of Judah, many Jews took non-Jewish wives. Ezra records many reforms enacted at this time, including a call to put away these non-Jewish wives and to return to the pure religion of their ancestors. Many did and many did not. In the wake of this period, you had the rise of several different Jewish sects, including the famous ones we know about from Scripture: the Sadducees and the Pharisees. The false sects could not be purged from Jewish society mainly because the Jews didn't have total control of their lands. First, the remained under the Persian Empire, who allowed them to return to Judah and establish a governorship there. After this, they were conquered by the Alexandrian Empire, and became Hellenized--and it was during this period that the Jewish Scriptures were translated into Greek as the Septuagint. Then, they were subsequently conquered by the Roman Empire, and lived under this rule up until the arrival of the Messiah. The religion of the Hebrews was never meant to be sectarian, in the same way that the Christian Church was never meant to be. That many sects arose under the influence of the Persian, Greek, and Roman empires implies to us that these sects were not merely disagreements of emphasis in OT readings, but very widely divergent beliefs. The Sadducees, for example, did not believe in the resurrection of the dead. Additionally, there was an Edomite group (emphasis on that they were ethnically non-Jewish), the Idumeans, who were forcibly converted to Judaism and integrated into Jewish society during the Hasmonean dynasty in the second century BC. These also had an influence on Jewish society and religion in the lead up to, and in the wake of the arrival of the Messiah. This is distinct from the Samaritans, who were another ethnically non-Jewish group who practiced Judaism, but who lived as a separate and distinct society, and who didn't really influence Jewish society and religion. All of this to say that the religious situation of the people of Judea at the time of Christ was complex and not uniform. The religious group that emerged in the wake of the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, though widely understood to be prominently of the Pharisaical sect, represents more of an admixture of various competing sects who became unified in the face of Roman persecution. In addition to the adoption of the Talmud, which is a hermeneutic system for interpreting the OT books, Rabbinic Judaism also threw out several books which were included as canonical in the Septuagint: the Deuterocanonical books. This means that Rabbinical Jews possess a different canon of Scripture, and a divergent Scriptural hermeneutic than their predecessors.

Christianity is the final evolution of Second Temple Judaism. Rabbanic Judaism is younger than Christianity. Judaism by itself isn't false, as technically speaking Christianity IS Judaism in its final, completed form. It is rabbinic Judaism that is false. Rabbinic Judaism is the evolution of the Pharisees.

This video was GREAT! Thank you so much for this.

I have never explored this thought experiment. Amazing content Brian

Great video, this is a crucial topic that many are ignorant of, and many in the church seem to skirt around for some reason

I call it proto-protestantism.

You did a much better job answering this than Trent Horn and Jimmy Akin ever have. Thank you for the clarifications

Judaism IS false though. Judaism rejects Christ Jesus, hence it is false.

Please can you make a video about doubts and how to handle it in a world full of so many voices and confusion?

Thank you for making this Brian. Perfectly nuanced and I think it drives the message home in a very appropriate and tactful way. I’m glad to see more mainstream people talking about this.

Always amazing content

Fascinating. I didn’t know any of that. Well, of course I knew the Temple had been destroyed in 70 AD, but I didn’t know why people argue that modern Judaism has lost much of its continuity with OT practices/beliefs.

Trent Horn Screeching in Pain as he strikes you

Just so y’all know, the Talmud is a book containing conversations/sayings of Rabbis. They give their two cents regarding scripture(usually) and other things. These rabbis even contradict each other. :)

Thanks!

Excellent podcast...thank you!

Great Job Brian. More brave Catholics on this platform please. Let's stop playing dodgeball!

Thank you so much. that was so interesting.

5:55 However, they are not the _only_ physical continuation of the back then Jewish nation. Guess what Palestinians are? They are Jewish and Samarian ethnics of Christian or Muslim confession. Christian Palestinians are THE oldest version of Konversos or Jews for Jesus. Muslim Palestinians are ONE OF the oldest versions of Dönmes, or Jews for Muhammed.

Really good video man.

How could they even be conflated? That's like saying 2+2=\=5 therefore 2+2=\=4 Or the light isn't on therefore the light isn't off.

Depends on if it’s Jewish traditions or beliefs before or after the Messiah?

The Temple was destroyed the law was fulfilled in Christ

Judaism isn’t false. It just came to an end after Jesus Christ died for our sins.

Howd those disputations end? And why? And what of the zohar and kabbalah? Few more things for interested parties to learn about and compare what you find to Christianity.

Post-70AD "Judaism" is not biblical Old Testament Judaism

Christ is King. ✝️

Without Yeshua, the Tanakh is incomplete. SOLI DEO GLORIA. AVE CHRISTVS REX!!!

So as a catholic do you approve the new popes inclusions and the Sunday now his climate Sunday...

Great stuff man

Did Christ preach his ministry to Jews or gentiles?

Watching this before the juice scrub this off of youtube

do eastern catholics have to recognize all the ecumenical councils and the catechism of the catholic church?

Recent convert? I thought he had an experience with a priest when he was younger. It would be better to say he's come back to the faith.

"A natural successor to ancient Judaism" = Temple Worship, priesthood, covenants. = Mountain Jews (Mormons / Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). Minus animal sacrifice for personal sacrifice, though animal sacrifices will be restored in the future, or at least one final one would be done.

Very informative thanks!

Depends on how they Disprove it. Modern Judaism no. Maybe Old Testament Judaism before Jesus. I have yet to see an argument disproving it though.

Claiming the Church gave us the Bible is simply false. The Church didn’t exist for the entirety of the Old Testament’s writing, and the majority of the books in the New Testament are first-hand accounts from founders of the Church BEFORE its formation. The information in the Bible is the foundation of the church, just because they gathered it all and put it in one easy to access book doesn’t mean they invented it.

Brian always got the drip

Anyone know the name of the painting at 3:24?

We need to quit saying true/false. They are less true and more true. Less correct / more correct. Christ came to them and gave them a higher law and a new covenant. The more righteous the people the higher the law God can give them.

That was helpful and good video

Is it not the church that has to be denied but the Holy Spirit? If the church was lead by the Spirit then the church was only a vessel for the Spirit to act through at that time.

Milo was raised Catholic and returned to his faith eight or so years ago

Ummm so aren't they Israelites or Hebrews? There are 12 tribes, one is the tribe of Judah. Jews are strictly from 1 of 12 tribes.

I feel as though Jesus' ressurection affirm(ed) Judaism. He fulfilled Jewish prophecy after all

Judaism isn't false. It's the origins. Christianity is the sequel to Judaism But many Jewish people reject the sequel and is loyal to the original Islam is a spinoff that claim that the spinoff is more authentic that the original and the sequel.

Well no, because modern j is just a reaction to The Church (which is near indistinguishable from Biblical J).

I see alot og people talking here about old testement judaism or second temple wra judaism. Can anyone explain what you believe the difference between this and rabbinic judiasm are?

It depends on what you mean by Judaism. Christianity is a continuation of temple and pharisaical sects of judaism. The thing people call rabbinical judaism today is a response to Christianity while embracing parts of pharisaical judaism. It is in continuity with the rejection of Christ from the first century.

I think even though it started one way it's ending much differently. I would say that one religion accepts the fact and the other does not, ultimately you cannot say those collective people have done necessarily good things for other people in fact a lot of what they're doing is hurting people. God in his infinite mercy is Jewish and became Jewish to fulfill the prophecy, this is actually one of the conversations that I would like to have with God. I would say the people you know of the past are not the same of these people of the present these are two distinct different ideologies that form a collective identity. If you want proof read revelation | apocalypse you will find it in chapter 3.

Nah man, just be a marcionist, Well marcion's canon was just luke*, romans, Galatians Philippians, Philemon, 1&2 Corinthians Thessalonians, Ephesians* and Colossians You can use the whole new testament, In its current form, in whatever language you read It now references non canonical texts I mean Besides 1st enoch, Or you can replace the old testament with better books, How about the tao te ching? Or ra the law of one? Or the works of plotinus? Or plato? Or proto indo european reconstructed mythology? How about starwars, the matrix, and the big Lebowski? How about the declaration of Independence, Constitution and bill of rights Of the united states? How about a redacted version of the old testament missing the parts that modern archeology, historicity, western moral philosophers, and itself disagree with

Neither is Christanity or Torah Judiasm false but for a sure their Talmud is false & deeply flawed that Jesus called the Doctrines of men , Is there one thing that man gets correctly ?

In the first century two new religions emerged from the Israelite religion. One was Christianity the other was RABBINIC Judaism. Each had a path to salvation and each honored the Old Testament but each had a NEW Testament. In the case of the Jews was the Talmud. The Talmud is a collection of the traditions of men condemned by Jesus. In short Judaism is FALSE. By the time I finished typing this I realized the Brian was supporting what I wrote.

Nothing is technically wrong with this explanation, but it’s the typically wrong framing a convert-seeking religion would impose on a system that is not concerned with conversion. When you grasp this you realize it’s apples and oranges. Rabbinic Judaism is not concerned with the things Christianity is at the deeper theological levels. That’s the place to start. The purpose of these two systems are different. Christianity is for saving the world for eternity. Rabbinic Judaism exists to save the Jewish corporal people (successfully I might add) for the Eschaton.

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"... lf you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples..." this is Christianity. Otherwise, is just wishfulthinking, lip service!

The “Judaism” in the Bible is more accurate to be described as a whole other religion separate from Judaism. See it would be better to call it “The religion of the Hebrews” or “Hebrew(ism)”. Judaism didn’t begin until the 2nd century and it is more commonly referred as “Rabbinical Judaism” and the main crux of their religion is the section of Jesus Christ as the messiah. That is ENTIRELY different from the religion of the Hebrews before Christ which was all about the coming Christ. Then when Christ came and died from our sins then rose from the dead and ascended to heaven, it was then where the religion of the Hebrews became Christianity. Christ fulfilled the old covenant and found a new covenant and created the Catholic Church. Hebrews became Christians, those that rejected Christ became Jews. It’s really that simple once your follow history on a timelines 😂

It would be better to say rabbinical Judaism is false . True Judaism comes from God which Catholicism is the constinuation of .

While having just started the video a few seconds ago, the answer depends on what is meant by "Judaism".

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Tovia Singer blew up the claims of Christianity so thoroughly that anyone familiar with his case can never return to it.

No.

Imo, today's "Judaism" is false in the sense that it is *NO LONGER* the same religion they practiced back in the days before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.. They no longer have a temple for sacrifices, therefore cannot even practice their faith anymore. Whatever came later was the product of the priests and pharisees who rejected the Messiah. My guess is that they had to come-up with something different to save face... a bit like the protestants who lost the priesthood in their schism, now having to save face by inventing "faith alone" and "bible alone", coming up with an entirely new religion solely because they disagreed with God's reality. The Pharisees rejected the Messiah and created a new religion while still claiming to rely on scripture. The Protestants rejected His Church and created a new religion while still claiming to rely on scripture. Both groups will not be saved by the means of their "new religions". They both have to return to the Messiah/Christ in order to be saved. Catholicism (The Church) is a continuation of ACTUAL Judaism, updated by Christ in 33 A.D., therefore is not subject to any "false" religions that came up later-on.

I am back like I never left oh ya!

AMEN!!!

Brian Holdsworth talking about the Talmud? Yep, that's based

Just use the original Bible created by God.

Rabbinical Jewish teaching on King David's adultery with Bathsheba and the murder of her husband Uriah is quite different from the Christian view of this powerful story of sin and repentance. For Rabbinical Judaism, David did nothing wrong; Bathsheba was technically divorced while her husband was at war and Uriah deserved death for disobeying the King's order to go sleep with his wife. If you doubt this, go look it up.

Protestant here regarding the jab against us around 2:00. Protestants do not deny the necessity of the church for passing along the scriptures, but we do deny that she possesses in herself infallible authority. The church of course can pass along the words of God, which are infallible, without having the same authority as the holy spirit that inspired them. Like a child who writes down a message from her mother to give to her teacher, the child is necessary for transmission but is not causitive of the note, nor does she possess the same authority that the mother has. Hope this provides some clarity!

The worst argument because, the Bible is infallible so the church must also be. Just awful logic. The law of gravity is intrinsic and part of the everlasting laws of physics therefore Isaac Newton who discovered it must also be everlasting.

It would seem to me that your portrayal both of "Judaism" and of "Christianity" fails to grasp the essence of any true religion through the vague and inconsistent use of these terms, for example this video does not stand this litmus test: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5: 17-18) Or again, St Paul writes in Romans 11: "I ask, then, has God rejected his people? Of course not! For I too am an Israelite... God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew... Hence I ask, did they stumble so as to fall? Of course not! But through their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make them jealous. Now if their transgression is enrichment for the world, and if their diminished number is enrichment for the Gentiles, how much more their full number. Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I glory in my ministry in order to make my race jealous and thus save some of them. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the firstfruits are holy, so is the whole batch of dough; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, a wild olive shoot, were grafted in their place and have come to share in the rich root of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches. If you do boast, consider that you do not support the root; the root supports you. Indeed you will say, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." That is so. They were broken off because of unbelief, but you are there because of faith. So do not become haughty, but stand in awe. For if God did not spare the natural branches, perhaps he will not spare you either. See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off. And they also, if they do not remain in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated one, how much more will they who belong to it by nature be grafted back into their own olive tree. I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not become wise in your own estimation: a hardening has come upon Israel in part, until the full number of the Gentiles comes in, and thus all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come out of Zion, he will turn away godlessness from Jacob; and this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins." In respect to the gospel, they are enemies on your account; but in respect to election, they are beloved because of the patriarchs. For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable. Just as you once disobeyed God but have now received mercy because of their disobedience, so they have now disobeyed in order that, by virtue of the mercy shown to you, they too may now receive mercy. For God delivered all to disobedience, that he might have mercy upon all. Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How inscrutable are his judgments and how unsearchable his ways! "For who has known the mind of the Lord or who has been his counselor?" "Or who has given him anything that he may be repaid?" For from him and through him and for him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen." Is this not a sounder teaching with more effective analogies?

This is obsession. Why don't you guys stop worshipping a man/pagan demigod triple spirit thing? Go back to the original scripture and see what it actually says. You don't need a quasi deity or priest to reach G-d. Return to the source yee lost, confused and angry souls

Yes once you stipulate that today's "Judaism" is talmudic/rabbinic Judaism which is false and evil. The 2nd temple Judaism of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, all the prophets has been fulfilled by the Lord Jesus Christ and has now established the new and ETERNAL covenant in Christ and his Holy Catholic and church 🙌✝️🇻🇦🙏

Judaism is true. It’s the only other faith where one can say it is true. And while it is true, Judaism lacks the fullness of Gods Word. When a Jew becomes a Christian it is not a conversion but rather an acceptance for the entirety of the Word of God. There Bible like there faith IS true.

The Hebrew people brutally crucified Jesus through the Romans. CATHOLICISM IS THE NEW COVENANT AND CHRISTIANS ARE GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE.

Milo is not ethnically Jewish, and is a devout Catholic. Most notably, he’s a former homosexual who has consecrated his life to St. Joseph.

People tend to confuse Old Testament with nowadays Judaism. Which NOT the same. The Judaism that is today is a new religion that was created years after Chrisianity ... Talmud. The Christians are new Israel, not Jews.

Now the Roman Church is false, ruled by Satan. I recommend finding what's left of the Catholic Church. Your forever depends on it.

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Brian, some feedback on yet another exceedingly frustrating video. This video strikes me as propaganda, and not the good kind. You are manipulating your audience (go look at the comments) into thinking modern Judaism is somehow lesser, or invalid, or untruthful. This is gross. You have heavily implied this rather than stating it directly. But the message is clear. You've made some comments here that are either borderline malicious or grossly ignorant. Either way, you are implying throughout the video that you, Brian H, know what true Judaism is, and that the modern versions of the religion are somehow of lesser value. In ancient Palestine, Judaism was NOT a monolithic religion! It had all sorts of different manifestations. The one you are discussing here was Temple Judaism. But it was FAR from the only group in ancient Palestine. Judaism has evolved right from the start! You seem to be saying here in this video that a cutoff point existed in the past from which "real" Judaism ended. That is just preposterously false. The religion evolved! It had to, after the Temple was destroyed. But - and let's be clear here - it was evolving constantly through the years of its existence, from covenant days, through the Babylonian exile, to days of the Prophets, to the Temple days, through Apocalypticism, and then to rabbinic Judaism. And the many sects could not even agree with each other. But here comes Brian H to raise a giant strawman and make an argument based on what Brian H thinks is the genuine version of Judaism. Seriously, Brian? And it has always been a religions of disputation - lots of arguing over the meaning of things and the right way to live. As for those Daniel, prophecies, you have *quite conveniently* left out the raging controversy over the dating of the texts. Daniel was most likely much later than you state here, and it was probably written AFTER the events that it prophesied. This dating controversy should ALWAYS be grappled with in ANY discussion of Daniel. As for the Gospels, almost no one thinks the Gospel authors "invented" the connections to the OT. Rather, they "mined" the OT for passages that fit their particular narrative. They chose the "hits" and ignored the "misses." Maybe get some rabbis of different persuasions on to discuss these topics intelligently. And why would god give the people a first covenant that is incomplete, eventually outdated, and subsequent to being superseded?

10:58 You may be thinking of the house of David. Bossuet in a universal history written for the Dauphin (Lewis of France, 1661 to 1711) affirmed that Jews couldn't find out who was of the house of David. The records were kept in the Temple and therefore lost at its destruction AD 70. I'd be happy to agree with him. There is however a way around it. Jesus had "brothers" and I am not into saying they descend physically from Mary, it's not about denying Her virginity, I tend to hold with Proto-Gospel, though what we have could have been altered, it's not inspired and divinely preserved canon. St. Joseph was a widower and the brethren come from his first wife. But the point is, all of them were of the tribe of Judah, more than one of them eventually were Christians, and not all of them were celibates. One of them (or if you prefer, one of His cousins, as per St. Jerome's account) could have married someone _designated as_ Jesus' widow, and their first son could have counted within Judaism as His legal son. That's the _maximum_ of truth there _could_ be to recently surfacing insinuations like those of Teabing in a famous novel by Dan Brown (or infamous, unless you take it as a document of how gullible Sophie Neveu and Mr. Langdon were to believe Teabing's allegations). I had to confront them in their somewhat older form with Baigent for his novelistic stand-in Teabing, since I had class mates and home mates (I'm allergic to boarding school stories, that's why I haven't read even one Potter novel), and in particular one who was both, who were into esoterica and he was into Baigent. However, such a line would have started out among Christians as likely as among Jews. ANY line from ANY brother or cousin or third cousin of Our Lord would have initially had some kind of standing among Christians, and then Jews could have needed to attend to that line, not least if some of them then became Rabbinic Jews. "Desposynoi" doesn't have as dictionary definition what Teabing says, but it DOES mean "relatives of the Lord" and some such featured in early Church history _after_ AD 70. I'd be more attentive to Daniel's weeks and the very obvious fact that Bar Kokhba was _not_ the Messiah, even if they calculated the chronology fraudulently to fit the weeks to him (and that's why putting for instance Ramses II as the Pharao of the Exodus is a very liberal reading for a Christian, but nearly a literalistic one for Rabbinic Jews). Plus their claims that Jesus didn't create the peace or kingdom that was promised is answered in Palestinians: * remaining an extant population * reuniting Judah and Ephraim (see Acts 2 and Acts 8) * not being sovereign and therefore not holding standing armies. Another part of the peace prophecies was God's word of peace going out to all nations, they interpret it as God's omnipotent word, and therefore an immediate peace, but it can refer to the Church preaching peace.