Is Competitive Pokemon in Scarlet and Violet Faster than Gen 8? 

I don't care how fast this gen is, the fact that I don't need to spend fourty years in a battle facility to get bottle caps and then another fourty grinding enough EXP candy to max a mons level makes this better

If you compare the timer to your ingame playtime you can see exactly how much time was lost to lag

Honestly, building a team other than trick room almost makes breeding a completely skippable step in these games. You're showered in so many cash items, mints, bottlecaps, and capsules that you can basically make any mon you catch off the side of the road competitively viable in minutes, making this sun room team essentially a worst-case scenario for S/V competitive prep. I'm actually looking forward to putting my first team together this time around. ... well, not counting having to grind for tera shards. But the basic process has been made so easy and freeform, I can almost forgive how much grinding needs to be done for those. Almost.

For farming tera shards: Use sandwich with Raid Power: type lvl 2 and then go and do all of those raids on your map that are of the type you need. Very easy and quick to get 50 and I maybe spent an hour on it

Admittedly I'm not a competitive player (at least on console), but I actually love breeding in these games. Masuda method is so much more enjoyable now that you don't have to run around in a circle in front of some building, talking to an NPC every 5 seconds. I can go in a picnic, make a sandwich, and then go make food IRL/to the bathroom/what have you, and come back 5 minutes later to 10 eggs that sort themselves directly in my boxes. Once the sandwich power runs out I get to walk around the entire region and maybe find a random wild shiny along the way as well. It's such a blast

If you aren't making a trick room team, it's so extremely quick due to how easy bottlecaps are and not needing a 0 IV (except 0 attack on special attackers). Also, if anyone needs HP EVs, eat a ham and pickle sandwich near the fairy Star base and spam Chansy for EXP and EV

I personally enjoy the new breeding mechanics. I get they aren’t for everyone but it’s nice to be able to afk-generate eggs while doing something else like watching a video, making dinner, chatting on Discord, etc. However, the best change to breeding was how fast eggs hatch now. I’d imagine if it wasn’t for the increased hatch speed, breeding would be worse in Scarlet and Violet than it was in Sword and Shield due to the mandatory waiting for eggs.

If we were able to get EVs with the auto battler we could build resources for building TMs and it would actually result in a nice flow of farming.

Problem with 5-6 star raids? Iron Hands with Belly Drum and Drain Punch. Max out attack and HP and boom no more raid problems. The only ones that hurt are fairy and psychic so then use Gholdegho with Make it rain, Recover, Hex and Nasty Plot.

I love this style of video, awesome job! Biggest surprise to me was the 'traditional' EV grinding probably taking less time than grinding for money for vitamins.

I like the idea of Picnic Breeding. You can do it whenever and wherever you want, and I do kinda find making sandwiches for Meal Powers a bit of fun. The execution is terrible tho, as mentioned, Eggs going to the PC box, having to have your two breeding pokemon in your party, and only being able to generate eggs in the picnic when you can't move around much or use the box is so tedious compared to previous gens. It was a nice idea on paper, but in the future I'd like the idea refined to actually be an improvement over the old system, or just give us daycares back.

I personally think this is by far and away the fastest game for making competitive teams, the main hurdle is money and there's a bunch of ways to farm money even while farming other useful items from raids

Great video. I agree about the terra shards. Especially since raids often give you good IV pokemon that you may want, but can be any terra type. They either need to boost up the terra shards you receive or lower the requirement to swap types. There is not much room for experimentation with the current system.

I'm not sure if I prefer the old egg method or the new one, but I think the overall accessibility of bottle caps makes it so I won't really breed as much as in previous gens. If I can get a 3 IV from a raid or something, teach egg moves from parent-to- parent then I'm just gonna do that

You can use mints to change your nature stats. I think they cost 20k

I think one thing that's worth mentioning is that if you're looking to EV train, you should look at your Mass Outbreaks and see if there's anything that has the EV yield you're looking for. What you're looking for isn't always going to be there, but if it is (or is a stat you already have maxed out) you can easily use the Power items to keep hitting Pokemon from the same outbreak. It gets even better when the Pokemon is one that automatically aggros you, as you don't have to run around and initiate the battles, with the battles coming to you instead. A really good Pokemon outbreak I encountered for this was Revavroom. It has 2 Attack EVs, and will target you down and DASH straight at you the second it notices you. This means you can keep spamming the A button on a Super Effective attack and just keep getting Attack EVs for whatever Pokemon needs it. Just an example, but I think the Mass Outbreaks are great for more than just Shiny Hunting. Edit: Also I think the video title is slightly confusing, and confused a couple of my friends. Some people took it as referring to Competitive matches taking less time (less turns) rather than Breeding Competitive Pokemon taking less time. Not sure how you would fix that, or if ya even want to. Just figured I'd mention it!

Great vid! To me the biggest improvement was also how you could buy battle items without grinding for them. I remember sitting there, playing Black, grinding for hours to get BP for razor fang. It was TEIDIOUS. But the worst thing is truly egg hatching. Couldn't take it. I think they made it with the casual players in mind. The luck was insane tho. EDIT: Also being unable to turn off the battle animations, alongside the EV training fiasco

i'm glad i'm not alone with the changes to the eggs. like, we'd basically perfected the system for 20+ years. i've always bred my vgc teams for big events, especially for things like worlds and internats, and it was always a sort of therapeutic ritual. i get that i'm in the minority here on that part, but you're right it's got a real flow to it. i've been breeding a team currently and i feel like i'm fiddling with boxes or afk for most of it. i know there was an interview with masuda where he said he didn't like the idea that there are players out there who spend all of their time just hatching eggs. so i think that's why we've seen so much to improve just 'using what you find' but building up the resources necessary for that, accounting for multiple teams (potentially hundreds per generation) and team progression changes through a season, it's still way too slow. like you can short cut the process with pokemon showdown, but we shouldn't need showdown as a step one. and don't get me started on the tera shard fiasco.

Easiest sub of my life, your videos are very entertaining. I could listen to you go on about pokemon specific stuff for hours. Ty for the content.

You’re a god for this video I haven’t started building any teams yet which I was planning this week so your video definitely helps thank you

The 50 shard requirement and the lack of EV cleanser are very strange regresses in design.

Great video as always. Interesting to see the differences, but dang, 50 shards needed! As you said, that is wild. Way to discourage experimentation with the new mechanic

excited to watch this keep up the great content

Easiest switch would be 10 shards per change. I think that's fair, if they want to be more fair, have a shard converter that lets you change say 2-5 shards of one type to 1 type of your choice.

Honestly never got why we went back to the old TM system since gen 8

Honestly despite the tedious parts - tera shards especially - I really like how if you just do a bunch of raids casually with your friends, you'll probably be equipped to fully customize multiple pokemon for a team with the appropriate mints, hyper training, xp candies, and cash for evs/items I decided I wanted a shiny palafin, and from idea to having a fully trained pokemon took me a little over an hour and like 45 minutes of that was just acquiring a shiny finizen from an outbreak, after that I just did a bunch of menuing using stuff I already had

love the vid as always! i agree about the breeding a lot, even if it ends up being about the same amount of time, I’d rather not be idle waiting for eggs for minutes on end. very VERY disappointed about the Tera shard part as well. I have ideas for teams that absolutely require unique Tera types, and I don’t want to have to grind for 50 of a single type. the lack of in game person to reset EVs also is a step backwards considering they put a person like that in the Isle of Armor… somehow this was a step back in some regards, but especially a step back in time to tweak a team with minor modifications or changing to a different and viable Tera typing to see how to feels compared to the other. I hope that DLC can fix this, but I’m disappointed that it isn’t in the base game and continues to nudge people in the direction of hacking in pokemon.

Awesome video was looking to see you talk about the new scarlet/violet competitive team building!

Almost forgot about Tera Shards for a moment there, but hey at the very least 5-6 Star raids have many 4-5 IV mons with Egg moves, plus Mirror Herb makes it so easy to give those egg moves to those very Pokemon! But it does suck that you still have to breed extensively for 0 Speed mons or just try your luck with wild encounters. Honestly wish the Paradox mons were breedable. And if you don't get the type you want from said raid ya gotta either find the raid with the type ya want or grind tera Shards. It's nuts. :( Otherwise great video! Punched a lotta holes I didn't see sooner!

I think the benefits of this game are that, if you are far into the lategame, it’s very easy to get all the resources you need to make a team. Most things in the game can just be bought now

You do have to keep in mind, you compared SwSh with all DLC to SV with no DLC. I have no doubt you'll be able to buy Tera Shards in DLC, just like you can apply G-max in IoA for SwSh. I think the 50 Tera Shards cost with no easy way of getting a lot of them is mostly due to new game trying to push you to do raids to get your Tera pokemon rather than just changing them willy-nilly, at game launch; Just like how Gmax was handled with SwSh. Additionally, this is still early days, and if people consistently do raids over the next few months before the first official VGC tournament, people will likely have a large number of Tera Shards. Sure, not enough to not have to worry, but I think enough to get their first teams put together. Also, breeding is worse, but also better imo. It's better overall for shiny hunting, probably worse if you don't need 100s of Pokemon. The idle time can be spent outside of the game (such as working if you are a tech worker like me) and the hatching is significantly faster imo. Going directly to box seems directly aimed at shiny hunters, as we rarely want our first batch to go into our party because we want to hatch them all at the same time. Sadly, every egg requires an extra egg cycle after each hatch to hatch the next one, so that defeats that (didn't we have this fixed in BDSP?!). Sandwich buffs are huge for eggs, and you get about 10 eggs (the limit) in roughly 6 minutes of waiting. That said, I would also prefer being able to run around while waiting for eggs to be laid, and I also don't like the whole, "pokemon in the party" BS. I think it's overall 2 steps forward, 1.5 steps back. Also, if you cheese the Academy Ace Tournament with a turbo controller like described in GameBoyLuke's video, you'll be ready to just purchase all the vitamins you need in no time. But obviously, that's a little out of the scope of this video. My biggest issue is that there is no EV clearing outside of Berries, which can't be purchased and can only be picked up, so if you mess up the EVs, or need to fix EVs on a re-used Pokemon, it is a pain. I think this will also come in DLC. Gotta have *some* reason to convince battlers to buy the DLC, right? 😅 Edit: Also, as for grinding, if you don't need money, there is a place where if you use a Ham Sandwich, you can grind against level 45 Chanseys and level up a team super fast. Additionally, I found a Super Ham Sandwich (I think it's called? The one with Fairy encounter lvl 2) in the Iron Valiant/Roaring Moon cave is really good, because Iron Valiant and Roaring Moon give crazy amounts of XP as well.

Question: If autobattles give your entire party xp while not giving any polluting EVs, and power items give 8 EVs every time xp is gained, could you EV train your entire party in diffent stats at the same time?

I'd love to see an updated version of this now that we have the mochis and item printer, as well as some vgc teams to look at.

For two Pokémon, it took me 10 hours to get the 100 shards, with the 20 or so pick-ups I found because I picked Fire and Steel. God help anyone who wants to fix three or more mons.

Thanks for all the info Blissey 🙇🏽

Glad you called out the tera shard thing, it's far too much. I had to grind for so long to change my Chien-Pao into an Ice tera for my team. Q_Q

Finally the gen 9 video. I would love to see follow ups to this, as the community slowly pieces together the fastest methods for grinding out VGC ready Pokémon.

One of my biggest issues with Gen 9 competitive is they took away easy ways to reduce EVs. You can’t grow berries like GBA, DS, and 3DS games, and can only have a chance to see some from auctions or glow spots So that team you took all this time to build? Can’t wipe their EVs easily like you could in SWSH. This will add so much more time if you need to adjust your set to accomodate for an everchanging meta Also, I’m not the biggest fan of money being used instead of BP. There aren’t many good ways to grind money, and all of them are worse than SWSH

Love vids like this that point out the short comings of the changes. I love the new picnic breeding but when putting it into practice you realise how idle and slow it can be. If i left the switch on while i worked; more efficient. If i sat down to do it while watching TV; not as efficient.

Love the video! If you want to easily farm 5/6 star raids, there's an iron hands build going around that solos easily. I believe Austin john plays came up with it but here's the spread: 252 Hp, 252 Atk, 6 in whatever (i did SpD) Bottle cap all stats but SpA Quark Drive + booster energy Moves are -Belly Drum -Drain Punch -Wild Charge (I did thunder punch instead) -Whatever move you want (I chose detect, but im sure you could add a coverage move This mon has been super useful for 5/6 star raids in my experience. Huge power azumarill with belly drum covers whatever Iron hands can't, it just doesn't get healing so ive supplemented that with cheering. I know it's a bit cheezy, but hopefully this can help you grind raids and get Tera shards & money!

I thoroughly enjoy doing the Tera Raids for materials and I've been able to make a "new" raid killer every other day from just the stuff I'm getting so I have less time skipping to do as I can get more and more raids done. Mind you I've also spent more time in this game than I've spent working full time since the game came out... Certainly not efficient, but if I'm able to make a raid killer I might even consider making a team since it seems to be accessible to me since all I really need is money.

The biggest QOL for me was building my team one member at a time. I'd build one fighter for raids. Then a 2nd. Then a 3rd. It was nice to snowball them and to ultimately get tons of items from raids and mons for some other teams I want to build.

personally i find breeding in this game way more convenient. egg power 2 makes getting and hatching eggs take no time at all, and i can obtain like 4 boxes of eggs while i'm doing other things. then again, i'm also not trying to get a competitive team. but overall being able to get eggs while afking is a huge benefit.

Hard agree on the breeding. I had such a nice set up in SwSh where I'd be hatching 5 eggs at once while collecting 5 new eggs from the daycare. It was extremely convenient. In this game, I generally make a great marmalade sandwich, collect eggs every 5 minutes until it runs out (I usually end up with around 60 eggs this way), and then run in circles in a nearby town until they're all hatched. If I find what I'm looking for in the early eggs, I'm left with dozens of eggs that I still have to hatch or else they'll take up space forever. It sucks

awesome video, i enjoyed tuning in to your streams when i could too

There's a cave with a glyph on the floor in Area Zero that is packed with Flutter Manes. I ran into it by accident while trying to find a Howling Moon

This is my first game that I am going to be playing competitively, Given how easy it is to shiny hunt I decided to go for a shiny team getting 5 shiny mons (1 shiny locked mon) getting them their moves, ev's and the bottle caps to hyper train. I am looking at spending just as much time to build the entire team if not more to get the terra shards I need. Trying to get terra types is either praying it hit it in a raid or mindless grinding for hours to get the shards you need. I might time how long it takes me and post an update at a later time just to give an estimate for others.

Enjoying watching it at the moment. Question: What's the advantage of breeding a nature over purchasing mint, other than saving the money?

Of note, there are setups to AFK farm the Ace Tournament with a turbo controller. So while it requires one (there are officially licensed turbo controllers, but they are an additional purchase), you can set up the particular Pokémon, then leave the game running overnight, so the only thing you’ll need to breed for is 0 IVs. Bottle caps and mints are 20K a pop, and with vitamins not being capped anymore, you can cut out a ton of grinding. Tera shards are brutal, but Raid powers help a ton, cutting that grind down, which mainly leaves Ability Patches as an issue. I haven’t done competitive Pokémon setup yet, but making raid mons (level 100 EV trained 5 perfect IVs and correct move pool) usually takes me about an hour or so.

OMG I was thinking the perfect nickname for Quaquaval would be Josuke and I saw that you did just that. You have my respect fellow Jojo fan.

Was the time for EV training adjusted the 2+ hours wasted with raid grinding and what not? If not wouldn't gen 9 probably be around 2~ hours if you did it optimally? I would be curious to see how fast gen 9 is when all the optimization is down pat like it was for gen 5 and gen 8.

Loving this vid. Just had 1 question. At around 11 min, you said "none of the mods I used," what does that mean?

Tera shard grinding sucks for sure, not defending it when I say this, BUT you can increase how many shards are dropped per raid with raid power from sandwiches. It still sucks because you need herba mystica for the lvl 2/3 raid power boosts as far as I know, and they only last 30 minutes and are only for a specific type. Sadly that makes them hard to use for joining random raids online. At the very least, you can see what type of raid you have the most of in a day and clear all of those with raid power and get a decent amount of shards. Still really sucks, but at least this can help mitigate the time somewhat, but not a lot at all.

Changing tera type (farming 50 shards) is def the biggest time sink for making a team now. It’s ridiculous

The tera shards are so brutal, even if every battle gives 10 in upcoming online format, it'll still be absolutely brutal going off all these types. there's "some" good natural terra's in the world like Normal Dragonite (hmm I wonder who thought of that one) but, oh I've caught a quartet, OH it's not ice it's dark, well fk me I guess 50 shards, cough em up!

For EV training I train in the Zero Area (or whatever it's called in english), you've got - Jumpluff, Medicham, Iron Bundle, Raichu... lots of stuff for Speed - Venomoth, Frosmoth, Girafarig, Iron Moth, Iron Jugulis... for SpA - Floette for SpD - Braviary, Iron Hands, Iron Thorns, Slither Wing for Atk - Garganacl, Donphan, Iron Treads, Great Tusk for Defense - Scream Tail in Scarlet for HP, sadly nothing in Violet afaik (except rare Chansey) BUT you can just do it last with Power Weight so it's not that big of a deal Since they all are lvl 55-60 it also gives a lot of exp for evolution/lvl up moves I don't have Scarlet so idk much about past paradox pokemon and what EV they give, but just because of Scream Tail it's easier to EV train in Scarlet

Would buying mints at Chansey supply help cut down on time spent breeding for nature? Or is there something I’m missing about mints?

Picnics for breading hurts my head, I miss loading up from the day care and seeing how many eggs I have I use to load up a box so it doesn’t effect me but it’s somehow more painful here

I have to agree with how unnecessarily "expensive" it is to change your terra type. Def my favorite mechanic since mega evolution and if it wasn't because of how much I love mega Mawile I would say it's my favorite overall. I remember reading a regional champions team profile notes saying that he settled on his Baxcalibur using tera water simply because he didn't have enough shards to make it steel and while at the time it made me laugh because I've been there before, it's also annoying that whenever we take a step forward we also take a step backwards somewhere else; tera shards, breeding and TMs.

In regards to “areas I shouldn’t be in” I ended up fighting Larry THIRD. Thank God for the battle items I had picked up 😂

Is it faster to breed than to bottle cap and mint for nature? I get breeding or catching for 0 speed IV (or atk for fluttermane to reduce foul play) but don't bottle caps and mints make IV and nature breeding obsolete?

I think its entirely possible given doing ev training from the start that it could be a similar time to gen 5 due to the spread across pokemon from exp share but I think it should also ne said just how much easier it is to ev train as all the items to do it are available for relatively cheap even before the post game

They made the breeding mechanic harder but I think someone at gamefreak put some kind of “weight” to the nature that specific Pokémon want in the game. I felt like I got suspiciously too good of nature rolls while playing through the game.

Delibird came and delivered. 999* of all Tera shards now. Love it. Only „hacked“ one koraidon since I’m a violet player. Love the grind!

I personally don't mind the new breeding, I just don't like how the eggs get lost in the PC. I think the sandwich is a funny concept that really makes breeding more fun imo. More grindy, sure, but I don't mind it.

the fastest way to train for special defense is a chocolate churro followed by going east of mesagoza to take down spoink, They spawn pretty quickly if you do it like that.

I bred my friend an early Sneasel during our playthroughs (his game came 2 days late) and I had to wait close to an hour for the first egg using none of the supporting methods (because at the time, I didn't know at all how they work, because for whatever reason, the game has no comprehensive descriptions for sandwich powers to my knowledge). Since that was my first Gen9 egg ever, I was afraid they had ruined breeding completely. By now, I have all the buffs to egg generation in place though AND realized the game can generate multiple eggs at once, all of which makes the system much more bearable. But good lord was that first one a bad scare. I thought I was doing something wrong, but no, apparently that can just happen.

As someone who has done far more Pokemon breeding then is probably healthy simply because it was a fun thing to do while watching TV... I completely agree with your breeding rant. There's no flow or interactivity with breeding anymore, you just afk, but even then you have to constantly babysit yourself as you do literally nothing or else the basket gets filled and you waste your time... It's legitimately awful. Once I get the bare minimum of what I need I find myself saying "to hell with this garbage I'll just use mints and bottle caps for the rest". When the system is so bad that someone who used to breed competitive caliber shiny mons just for fun doesn't even want to touch it, that's a really bad sign.

Hey, nice video! I did some estimates of training methods and was planning to test the time to make a team (once I'm done duping Ability Patches... 14 hours of duping so far) but it seems you beat me to it! My napkin math said 6 hours glitchless for a team without altered tera-type and you took 17, so I'm planning to identify the differences by checking out your stream and comparing whatever I get when I get to testing. I'm doubtful breeding is the right call for IVs. 52 minutes for Torkoal seems like too much, when that would cost ₽80k Bottle Caps + ₽20k Mint = ₽100k. That's one run of the Ace Academy Tournament, much faster than 52 minutes. I'd extend the same logic to Hariyama, Lilligant, and Oranguru. It also cuts finding the 5 IV Ditto, so the only thing that would matter is the 0 IV Ditto. Traditional EV training seems like the fastest way to go, which I'd be fine with if PKRS was still around. There's something quaint about doing it the old ways (though I wonder who at GameFreak sat there and said "yes, let's remove PokéJobs, the thing that makes EV training effectively 5 minutes"). Shard Farming is looking to be a nightmare. I hear 50 shards is anywhere from 4 hours with a casual team to 1.5 hours *if* you have proper raid counters. That's still up to 9 hours of raid grinding on top of training proper raid counters (which need EVs lol). While I hope it gets fixed by DLC, that's already going to be too late for early-season VGC. My last hope is that Battle Stadium rewards a lot of shards for hitting Master Ball rank. Thanks for another cool video!

This generation was actually the one that I got into VGC, because it was so easy. I built a Sun team revolving around Tera Fire Flutter Mane. Being able to just buy all the power items, bottle caps, and mints, and items I needed made it so easy. Plus having the judge just straight up in the pc made breeding a breeze. Regulation D makes it a bit harder adding some legendary pokemon (I’m in the process of playing through Brilliant Diamond for Cresselia and Heatran for my trick room team) but honestly, once I’ve got them with their right 0 IVs (Atk and Speed for both) I can just transfer them and bottle cap them, which makes it so much easier. Yeah it’s still dumb you need previous games and a separate service to send Pokémon over to Gen 9, but honestly, that’s not as bad because it gives you WAY more options

One step forward, and several steps back... Why would they remove infinite use TMs and Pokerus of all things?

i used these exploits and didn’t have a team ready until 3 days after i beat the game. what was wrong with infinite tms? they even removed TMs as raid loot

Ayyyyyyye made it into the video, also great video

I love that breeding can be done partially AFK. I run picnics while cooking and check back every couple minutes to clear the basket. Multitasking has been a massive pro for me.

not sure if this was explained but at 5:25 fluttermane technically spawn in during the day they just despawn on frame 0/1 cause the game checks if it's day or night, the exception to this is a shiny fluttermane as it will not despawn shiny fluttermane even if it's during the day, again not sure if anyone mentioned it at all but though I would incase someone did want to try to get one during the day edit: also since this was before event raids (mainly blissey raids) it did take a while but with the item machine in the dlc and the event raids the money grinding and the tera shard grinding should take way way less time now

Was hunting for a competitive annihilape (using a 6iv pikachu) and on my third set of eggs I found a 6iv adamant Mankey!!!

If you'd needed even 1 Ability Patch and 1 Tera Change, this would have gotten out of hand fast.

After playing this game for quite a while you build a box of max ev trained 6 star raid optimized pokemon and you can just destroy this whole process No worrying about natures because you have infinite mints, only worry about ivs if you need something to be 0 because bottle caps are plenty, money is bountiful because 6 star raids are easy af for you and your raid extermination squad, you have so many exp candies it maxes out The only bit of pain is tms and tera shards, which can be mitigated by just farming the hell out of a stationary raid (Like a mightiest) to get a surplus of vitamins, mints, ability patches and tera shards of that type

So how do you feel about the duping glitch with the box legendary to clone ability patches for money?

Correct me if I'm wrong (trying to learn new mechanics for competitive pokemon) let's say you snag a random pokemon in the wild can you use a mint to get the nature you want and 5 bottle caps (or 6 if you want) and have what you need before you EV train? Do you only need to breed to pass on moves now?

I get a lot of candy and treasure items from farming tera raids as well as some decent Pokemon as long as they don't need a 0 IV. You should compare how long it takes to level and EV just via candies and vitamins obtained through farming tera raids. You do have to include the time to create a good Iron Hands/Azumarill for the raids though.

It took me one hr to ev train and hyper train. As well as reach 100. Yes not being stopped by battle points to buy the ev training items and bottle caps but with real cold hard cash…lol…. Makes it so much easier and honestly more enjoyable to train you pokemon to beasts. I love having big massive pp pokemon and this has made that sooooo much easier. 😊

I think these games are even easier (except tera shards) than your time implies given the fact that the other times are based on having knowledge of the best methods and this one not. For example, ev training through KO's is even easier than what you were able to achieve if you abuse encounter sandwiches. Encounter power normal to spawn only chanseys by the fairy team star base for hp evs, or encounter power electric to spawn a ton of raichu in area zero outside research lab 3 for speed evs, I've found ev training to be extremely fast. Having a belly drum sweeper (iron hands, cetitan, huge power azumarill) makes one shotting 5 star raids very easy for making money and getting mints very fast too. The amount of money you can get with this makes bottle caps extremely easy to get as they're about the only thing you might need to spend lots of money on, so even very suboptimal pokemon can be fixed up very easily. Tera shards are inexcusable though. Even with being able to one shot tera raids of almost every type after maxing out a bunch of different pokemon (which itself added up to a decent amount of time for me), it takes at minimum 20 raids of a given type just to change one single pokemon. It's not OK.

I don’t do double battles so my team build was a little different. Also I don’t have time figures either. But, let’s put it this way. I have a FULL team of shiny, bottle capped, natured, EV trained, lvl 100 Pokémon. With 3 of the 6 having different terra types than they could originally have. And I’m still less in time than Gen 8 or previous.

Idk if you've done a video about it, or if anyone has spoken about this, but I'm here to defend my favorite Gen (Gen 5). So I saw that you are comparing the results to white version, but have you experienced the upgrades black & white 2 offer? The only place where I'd say newer gens are way faster is with breeding perfect IVs, but even then, there are incredible tools black and white 2 offer, for instance, there is a pass power that greatly increases the speed at which eggs hatch, not only that, but there are facilities that you can build (up to 10) that let you hatch eggs inmediatly once they have reached a certain level in join avenue. There are also tools to help with breeding moves indirectly, since Restaurants and dojos let you level up your pokemon up 13 levels instantly, bypassing the "learn a new move" pop up screen, so ultimately it becomes faster to get male pokemon to a higher level without the risk of the daycare deleting the moves you want. And that's just with breeding, I believe there is a high chance that Gen 5 is faster with ev training than any other game, for multiple reasons, one is that, just like breeding facilities, in join avenue you can build restaurants and dojos that give up to 64 evs to your pokemon inmediatly by paying a certain amount of money, so if you have a couple max leveled facilities in join avenue you'd just spent like 3 minutes buying those evs to your pokemon. But I hear you say "Wouldn't money be a problem?" well guess what, there is a pass power that gives you three times the money you'd get from trainers, on top the multiplier given by amulet coin, and there are infinite battles you can have in black tower (where there are lots of ladies, rich boys, socialites and gentlemen) so in a manner of minutes you can just grind millions of pokedollars. Even if you don't enter or don't have the black tower (as you'd need to have a copy of black 2 or been shared the black tower key) there are several daily trainer encounters you can battle to get money, for example, colress and the gym trio (cilan and his siblings) which with you can get essentially 200,000 in a matter of three minutes per day, enough for your consumptions. Even when you're not grinding for money, but for pass orbs for pass powers you can play missions that give you sell items, such as big pearls, pearls and healing items in excess, that you can sell, which makes getting money faster at any point. In the case of experience this games also have you covered, there is also a pass power that gives more experience, along with the lucky egg, and in the white tree hollow you can battle breeders that have blisseys, chanseys and happinies up to level 82, which, along the lucky egg and pass powers, can level up your level 1 pokemon to level 50ish in one single battle. This, along with the facilities that help you level up your pokemon, makes the process take a couple of minutes. The issue I'd say is that, there is somewhat of a leveling curve you need to grind before you can have access to everything I just mentioned, which can be achieved by connecting continously to another copy of the games, not horrific in my opinion, and even before you can have access to the highest level rewards the facilities and the white tree hollow & black tower can offer you, you can have access to lower level rewards which still cuts off a lot of hours of playtime, until you get the highest level ones. Let me know if you have a video about Gen 5 training, or have any questions on the topic, I'd love to help you out with info. Anyway, I love your videos, cheers :) Edit: I just found the video, posting this comment there.

I know the games are still very new, but it's still weird to not see any RNG Manips done.

Considering the amount of effort you put in videos like this, I'm a little bit disappointed you didn't went the extra mile of farming shards for at least a single tera type change. Even if you didn't want to use it in your team, having a reference of how long it would take to get all the shards for a pokémon would be a welcome addition to the video. Either way, great video.

From my personal experience Gen9 is a vast improvement over previous gen on accessibility. I think a lot of change is GF wanting you to do raids and not the old ways of breeding&grinding. Following this approach, if you first build a Iron Hands/Azumarill that can easily solo raids, your resource quickly start snowballing. Breeding/IVs/nature: imo you don’t really need to breed more than a couple of eggs given how easy it is to augment natures with mints and IVs with hyper training at lv50.(imo this is what GF is going for) EVs: I used normal encounter sandwich to get chanseys with power items to get 9HP/8 other stat+1HP EVs plus quite a bit of experience. If I have the resource, then it’s meds+wings, even faster. Levels: there’s more than enough Exp candy from raids for lv50. TM/Tera shards: i agree this is the new grind. All in all, I think SV team building is soooo much faster. And if you have the cash, it takes like 20 minute for a whole team.

I have a question about trick room team what is some big advice for making one

I'm so glad to find somebody calling out the flaws of the breeding system in this game. So many others seem to love it, and good for them, but I'm not a fan. Everybody is bragging up how you can now AFK egg gather, but having the basket limited to 10 eggs kind of ruins that. I left my game on overnight for some AFK breeding before I knew how things worked, and was incredibly disappointed to have gotten 10 eggs out of 12 hours. Sword and Shield were my first real foray into Masuda Breeding, and I was looking forward to some cool hunts using it in S/V, but at this point I'm probably going to limit myself to the starters.

Great video Blisy i will

I appreciate how much faster the process is with the ease of hyper training and obtaining mints, this process couldve been optimized a ton by not caring at all about ivs (besides 0 speed) or natures since those can be patched up later. But tera shard requirements are infuriating, it reminds me pf trying to naturally find gigantamax raids before events or IoA. Lots of mons have multiple viable tera types, but even just changing to something off-type is a big investment. Like if you wanted a Dnite or Garganacl, mons who don’t usually want a same type tera type, then the grind becomes necessary. This then can become compounded because when you try a team you’re likely not done on the first draft! Maybe grass Torkoal actually is the spicy tech you want for stab sbeam, resisting water/ground, and ignoring spore and rage powder vs fire’s raw power. So you then need those 50 shards and have to hope you don’t want to change again due to changes in the team or overall meta. Because what if next tera fighting for stab body press/tera blast for ttar becomes something you value? Or fairy for all the dragons? Etc etc. And that’s just one Pokemon of six!

They likely removed Pokerus due to COVID. It's quite normal to delay or otherwise cancel episodes of a TV Show shortly after a natural disaster if those episodes contain a reference to said disaster. For example, not airing an Episode where a Pokemon uses Earthquake shortly after an actual Earthquake hits Japan. Keeping this in mind, it's no surprise they went and removed the contagious virus that... Makes those infected STRONGER, encouraging you to spread it to as many Pokemon as possible? It sucks for EV training, but it makes sense why they'd remove it.

Hello, love the video's keep up the great work.

Whats a 0 speed ? And for trick room perfect ditto wouldn’t work as u need 0 speed ? Sorry im new to competitive scene

I think the reason why they added the new breeding system was because of the games emphasis on exploration. If you have to go to a specific location to breed you aren’t exploring (plus it’s also convenient to be able to breed wherever you want). However, the new system just feels really clunky and weird, I really hope that in an update (probably a dlc if we ever to get this) they add back the old breeding system so that players can choose which one they prefer

It might be a little faster if you use the bulk sell mechanic.

All I'm thinking is "thank god you didn't need hidden abilities" because Ability Patches seem like an utter nightmare without glitches. You'd be better off just grinding raids for the mon you want having the HA at that point. Getting rid of Pokerus but not having any replacement for it is so weird, too. Like I can totally see them wanting to tweak it, it's needlessly rare relative to how important it is, but getting rid of it and then not doing any offset? At least throw a double ev sandwich power or something.

Sorry if I missed this in your video or if I'm misunderstanding but can't you use those mints to change the nature and not breed for them?

i prefered the old method by far, at least you knew if you were even going to get an egg. I do like that you can pass on egg moves without breeding, but they are no longer really egg moves anymore. I do like that you can fix egg moves but I did kinda enjoy breeding rarer egg moves.