is conditioner actually damaging our hair? 

Right? The editing is so smooth too.

Just a heads up: this video contains a lot of misinformation and please do your own research about silicones using scientific sources made by real (cosmetic) chemists. They do not do what she claims in the video and they don't need sulfates to be washed out just like oils don't need them to be washed out.

@@Sabrina-sx9fl thank you!

Thank you! I actually struggled a lot in school. Almost failed English GCSE and detested writting assignments. I had to have extra help as I couldn’t write well.

@@Sabrina-sx9fl and where are your sources to prove this?

same exact thing happened to me

Same, my hair looks horrible when I don't use sillicones

I have the same problem with air drying. My hair feels healthy and soft but looks like one giant frizz explosion. No matter which products i use. It took me a long time to accept that i just have to regularly blowdry my hair and it looks totally fine.

same thing my hair looked so dead without sulfates and silicones

You do realize that you still have the split ends and the damage? Silicone just hides the damage

May I ask which baby shampoo you use?

thank you! I'm glad you've foud something that works for you x

I wish baby shampoo worked for me. It’s cheap and gentle(supposedly) for some reason baby shampoo strips the oil from my hair

@@mominabatool2565 Johnson's baby shampoo

@@immathechopsticksthatjinal5441 I've used the Johnson's one before, a long time ago but I personally find that my hair gets more frizzy and dry. I do have textured hair although idk if its wavy or curly or in between since I keep chemically straightening my hair for easy styling. I've thought about growing out my hair and cutting off the straightened part as it grows but it's so hard to look neat and not frazzled with the frizz 🙁 Does it only work for bringing out the curls or is it good in general?

Jak widzę takie filmy to od razu o tobie myśle 🥰

Aga, Ty w ogóle powinnaś napisać do tej dziewczyny, bo jak widzę jej włosowe dramaty, to jestem pewna, że ona nakłada olej kokosowy na włosy i używa wysuszających stylizatorów... Coś jest nie tak, a dziewczyna popada w stan depresyjny przez to.

@@wioletakaminska4406 tak, koniecznie! dziewczyna nie ma pojęcia o porowatości i równowadze peh, przez co nie może dojść do ładu ze swoimi włosami. myślę, że gdyby ktoś jej to wytłumaczył, rozwiązałaby problem raz dwa!

could you recommend a conditioner that contains these silicone alternatives? :)

Could you make any recommendations of products with those ingredients?

Yes! I had the same exact experience. We hear so much about how silicones are bad for our hair but what we (presumably white with naturally straight hair, super fine in my case) forget is that the majority of hair products in stores are specifically formulated for our hair and that's one facet of privilege that's overlooked. I wanted the CGM to work so bad but my hair looked dull and flat. I already used sulfate-free shampoo that is super sudsy and the silicones just make my hair so shiny and healthy looking.

@@heathernelson3794 This is such a good point!

I wash my hair with clays and have for 10 months. So many benefits. Sometimes I add hydrolysed protein.

@@heathernelson3794 I have very straight hair natural. Which sulfate-free shampoo do you use please? The one that makes your hair look shiny and healthy. :)

Same, I have 1b hair and I've tried CGM, sulfate-free shampoos, silicon-free conditioners, no-poo, CW, ACV... nothing works as good as silicons xd I've been using them for years, on natural virgin hair, I don't use heat, and my hair is really good, soft and nice. I even have to cut my ends in layers every few months because they're too thick. I guess as straight hair is more hydrated naturally, it works, and for curly or dyed hairs as they're dry as hell, it won't work

i get you, it all depends on your hair type and wether the silicones are being rinsed out effectively and without too much sulfates. i think everyone has different hair needs. x

If your hair feels great, it is great to your hair! Also, Silicones are not bad for your hair.

Silicones aren't bad

Silicones are NOT bad, and you DONT need sulfates to remove them, simply get an Anionic (negatively charged) Sulfate Free detergent. Cantu, Camille rose, aunt Jackie, Shea moisture, Maui moisture, Olaplex, bounce curl and MORE, ALL of these companies have some or all their shampoos anionic. For example Olefin sulfonate C14-19 other (please google the names) Oils ALSO buildup and none water soluble, try taking off oils with only water. We all know it won’t dissolve. If she put a little bit more research she should know better.

Same for me

what products do you use?

Those two are exactly the types of silicones I use as well!! They're in Herbal Essences conditioners and Pantene, Aussie, Dove and Tresemme. People who try to fear others into ditching silicones need to back off, they literally make people who have been using silicones perfectly fine for years question themselves and change up their routine into silicone-free and they're left with dry lifeless hair bcus they've been brainwashed into thinking silicones are the devil.

@@catd8929 I use Pantene, Garnier, Schauma, basically anything cheap that has the necessary ingredients

@@esbns for me the last straw was the fact that most people who have tailbone and longer hair use silicones and swear by them. Honestly. My hair is below my bellybutton at this point and it couldn't be healthier.

@@esbns i do wanna note that people like me, with things like contact eczema and eczema in general, can have heavy reactions to harsh silicones, i personally have had some extreme reactions to silicones from john frieda, where my hands where all eczema all over, including my head and sides of my head. So do note that!

thank you! x

Isabella Demarko, Sarah Ingles and Kayley Melissa became my hair holy trinity it's great to have RU-vid channels that dive deep into hair care and trichology without saying that "it's natural so it cant harm you"

Same

@@TheGabygael ikr

Normally she does really good research about hair but this video is not it. While she did start by saying she looked through scientific papers she goes on to a "natural hair care brand" that just makes silicones look bad without any scientific evidence to their claims. This video has so much misinformation unfortunately. I would not recommend this video at all and please do your own research.

No need to say sorry, your English is perfectly fine. I agree with you on this one, I always use shampoos that have silicone in it and my hair looks really shiny and smooth.

@@roxyplays8754 Silicones don’t actually penetrate the hair shaft and add nutrients to it, like coconut oil and avocado oil. Chances are a silicone free conditioner will have these in, and that’s why people see such a difference over time. It’s also because when you know less about hair care you just pick a silicone shampoo without knowing it’s clogging up your hair, and then when you become knowledgeable and cut the silicones out you think it’s the silicones causing the problem, when in reality it’s the silicone shampoo.

Also, there are different types of silicones, heavier and lighter ones, some are even water-soluble. Most shampoos have conditioning ingredients in them, and especially if your hair is too fine, you'll need to use a clarifying shampoo at least 2-3x times a month. If your shampoo is strong enough to clean the excess sebum off your scalp, it's probably getting rid of the layer of silicones too. Some of the "natural" ingredients in hair care like coconut oil or shea butter can quite literally clog up your hair, in the same way, you all claim silicones do. Silicones have some occlusive properties but they are not occlusives, they are breathable film-forming materials that allow other ingredients to penetrate the skin/hair shaft more effectively.

This is so true

@@belladonna9227 are you a pharmacist? Silicones have skin absorption and do help as a emolient, that's why it is used in skin care and topical medication. Also most oil have no scientific evidence proving that they work and can worsen dendriff and even give plica polonica a irreversible hair condition

I agree! I also want to know more about castor oil. I tried using it for hair growth and it irritated my scalp and made my hair fall out.

@@dhaelmonfiston fr? I´ve always wanted to use it, but stayed away from it cause I have quite light strawberry blonde hair soo :/

@@juliajolina I guess I´m gonna stick to my almond oil lol

Im naturally blonde and i think thats probably just coming from the black castor oil you should use for hair care is, well, black in colour and can make hair look darker while its in but this dissapers after washing.

My hair is bleached to white and putting castor oil on the ends has never stained it x

same thing for me!

Thank you I’m glad you appreciated it as it takes forever haha xx

lucky

@@Ash-ty4qp There are pros, there are cons...

@@egliosha What do you use on your hair please?

I’m not saying your hair isn’t moisturized, but I wonder if the Gollum effect is just due to oils/silicones being very heavy for some hair types :)

Yes I saw that video and thought of Isabella aswell 💕

Silicone are isolators. only that, u choose what you will isolate, I like to isolate water inside, u guys outside, your loss.

after watching those, you need to watch the critique by a hair scientist and her colleague, a biomedical scientist. The confirm the parts that are true and explain the parts that are not quite right . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DbWa_xzrUu8.html

Sara ingle and Isabella demarko are my hair care sisters. It would be so cool if they did a collab

@@Ghost_0418 - YESSS!

But isn’t the actual problem the sulphate in shampoos to remove the silicone? Sulphate is what dries out the hair

@@LOlmala22 well seeing as silicones dont choke the life out of you hair I dont really think there's any reason you would have to be so hurried to remove them. Really the only issue from a hair standpoint is that too much silicone can make the hair sticky, stringy, or weighed down, so unless and until your hair accumulates that level of silicone, you don't need to use a sulfate shampoo. So once in a while is enough to keep buildup at bay. Plus some non-sulfate surfactants can remove silicones as well, namely cocamidopropyl betaine or coco betaine. Its confusing that everyone suddenly thinks your hair has to be stripped naked of everything every time you wash now. Isnt the whole point of sulfate free cleansers to avoid stripping the hair of all it's natural oils? Shampoo is mainly to keep the scalp clean and healthy. Sebum, oils, cationic surfactants, fatty alcohols, silicones etc. are good for the hair and protect it from shampooing, brushing, styling etc. They're only a problem if you have way too much stuck to the hair. Otherwise, your hair doesnt need to be squeaky clean. I hope I made sense there :)

@@Amy19959 it's the same for me! I had avoided silicones for yeeears... must've been 5 or 6. A couple of months ago I started incorporating them in my styling routine - I haven't been this happy with my hair in... well, years. And it's not that I didn't take care of my hair before, I'm just assuming that my thick, high porosity hair loves that stuff 🤷‍♀️

@@LOlmala22 Sulphates in moderation are good to remove buildup from hair products, but also too much of your own oils and sebum. The other things surfactants do (together with hot water) is öpening" hair scales. This allows for more effective hair treatments which follow after shampooing. Of course if someone only shampoos their hair in hot shower, but doesn't use anything afterwards (incl conditioner), your hair will get damaged exactly because of those "opened" scales.

I personally never felt any difference in my hair no matter what shampoo I used.

You probably have straight hair

@@user-lk6fs9bl6f i probably dont, it’s 2a-2b, and now past my tailbone

@@vicki26xoxo Oh wow your hair must be stunning 😳😊

@@vicki26xoxo length doesnt matter if it doesnt look volumous, thick, and strong.

😆😆

Hey there, could you please tell me all the silicone-free/sulphate-free products, you are using on your hair. I am new to CG method and it's been difficult for me to find out which products to use in India for curly hair. It would be great help if you tell.

@@mayurishikarwar7391 the products you can get varies from country to country, I live in Argentina so it was difficult for me to find products, so I joined facebook groups where people shared what they found, maybe you can search "CGM in india" im sure theres a group for that

@@mayurishikarwar7391 I use the earth rhythm murumuru shampoo bar and re equil conditioner. Google 'desicurly amazon' and there is a storefront of a blogger with many affordable products.

Really? My hair has grown more than 6 inches in 6 months. My nails are also growing like weed. Got to thank my genetics for that.

Thank you so much....😊

the only reason she didn't name the company is most likely because she has worked with them in the past

@@Stephie.BeeTTV is she not using function of beauty anymore? or why did she stop?

Hmm I'm not sure. Even if she isn't using it anymore. I said it not her so all is good. Plus I didn't say anything bad just that they are using water soluble silicones too!! ^_^

@@ERIN_GUNN Oh yea I was just wondering if their products are good for your hair since I’m considering buying from them☺️

@@elsie4802 As long as when you're filling out the initial part of the quiz that asks you what your hair type, scalp type, hair structure etc. As long as you put in what your hair actually is and not what you want. It will work for you. For example mine is oily scalp, medium hair, wavy hair. Some people who have straight hair and want curly hair will put in curly hair type. Then they complain the product doesn't work for them but the reason it didn't work for them is because they didn't put the correct information in. When you get to the hair goals part you can put whatever your goals are. If you need help to answer any of the first round of quiz questions there is a section on their website that helps explain how to figure out what type you have. I hope this helps! I've been using it since December and I am super happy!

Thank u really needed this

Dimethicone is not water soluble btw

I think you've been misinformed... unfortunately dimethicone is not a water soluble silicone.

your most welocme good luck on your exam x

What do you suggest?

Thank you for watching!

LOL 🤣😂😂😂

Well said!

thank you! xx

Omg same. It's so annoying 😭

right...I have curly/wavy hair. I use to use expensive curly girl method shampoo and conditioner. I saw no difference!! I'm not using a 17$ shampoo that runs out in 2 weeks. I use pantene now.

Me too

what brand do you use?

@@billieelishstan2208 you better be careful, that brand along with a bunch of others have ingredients that make hair fall out. Make sure you’re reading labels and keeping updated on this stuff so nothing happens!

thank you so much for watching xxx

@@IsabellaDemarko tysm for everything, your editing it immaculate, your personality is impeccable and your content is incredibly mind-boggling. You are literally perfect and my hair is going to have such a glow up because of you :)

What’s cgm? I also use head and Sooners anti dandruff that has dimethicone etc

Any oils on your ends?

thank you os much for watching and supporting! x

I think that's the point, silicones do also offer protection so going silicone free means going heat free too.

I agree, this was back in 2019 and I know much better now. At the time it was all the rage, and so many influencers were doing it, promoting the silicone free way and not considering the actual facts. I highly reccomend La’Dor products to anyone reading this, they all contain water soluble silicones and their products are actually amazing.

haha

Same :) and my curly hair also love them.

my mum have a similar hair to manes and she never followed the cgm and her hair is beautiful and i have wavy hair , i started the cgm and i didn't work ! my hair was an oily disaster :( now i'm going back with 2 shampoo's one with sls and one without and a good conditioner without silicone , hair mask , hair cream then a hair serum with silicone in it .. i'm DONE ! look at all the people with beautiful hair doing a similar routine to this make me snap out of this cgm

@@v9710 honestly I think the cgm does more harm than good! So yeah your current routine is perfect. Being too strict will only make things worse you need to use what's good for YOUR hair and what works for YOU. Good job on you for snapping out of it. I'm proud to say I never followed the cgm method for a minute and my hair which was (technically still is) heat and chemically damaged and I've regained so much of my curls even on the damaged bits!

(this is an incredibly well made video btw)

There's not a difference!!! It all needs washed out eventually... you must wash your hair for optimal hair health.

Oils are even harder to wash out

it's so frustrating for me that a lot of the "natural" and "alternative" products leave a TREMENDOUS amount of buildup. And they all seems to smell like fruit punch. Most products for my kinky type 4, loc'd hair are like this. Like, they make my hair look ashy. Best results I get for my hair are after my monthly ACV soak, clarifying shampoo and deep conditioner but I don't want to do that every week. I'm looking for something easier for my weekly wash.

Yup! People (myself included) basically jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. Straight shea butter is 10xs harder to wash out than any silicone.

@@kuafer3687 Especially the heavy ones like castor oil.

Hair is so crazy! Glad you found what worked for you :) it’s so hard for some people

I'm sorry but you're talking bullsh*t

I'm pretty sure she mentioned proteins in another one of her hair videos :) I can't remember exactly what she said, but I think it wasn't what her hair needed at the time

@@suminshin6418 How do you know?

She tried pretty much anything, so I'm sure she tried protein masks as well

same here. i tried it sooo many times but i hate the way it looks on me. i enjoy dressing up and doing my makeup, but hair isn't that important to me so i don't want it to be a source of insecurity. hair is dead cells so it's not like i'm ruining my health by using shampoo that is a bit harsher. the only tip i like is using a shirt instead of a towel - i feel like that works so well even if you don't have wavy/curly hair.

probably not better. silicones are the best film forming ingredient. no other ingredient as of right now can substitute how well and how lightweight it performs

i have thin greasy hair too. try the body shop's banana conditioner it's silicone free. also i suggest loreal volumetry shampoo - it has salicylic acid and makes the hair voluminous and big.

i have the same. ends used to be super dry and splitting/breaking, and roots extremely oily. cowashing has actually helped, as well as using more milder shampoos. but i make sure to use a stronger shampoo to remove build up every few weeks. personally i try to avoid silicones that arent water soluble because i cowash.

i did watch a bit of it, yeah

@@IsabellaDemarko What did you think? My mind was blown when she said that hydrated hair doesn't act or feel better than dehydrated hair.

@@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX I watched Sarah my brain is still trying to compute, I need to watch it again but I do enjoy Sarah she is very interesting.

Doesnt it have something to do with your hair porosity?

@@Yamyamyamyamaymayam You're right, it has to do with hair porosity and if I remember rightly I think it also might have something to do with hair thickness (the thickness of the individual strands).

As I said at the beginning, there is soooo much more to silicones that would need a much longer video to go into detail. I tried to give a brief overview that most people could make sense of, without taking too much time, giving some different perspectives and opinions, pros and cons. This is not a research paper and I make it quite clear that viewers should do their own research.

I definitely agree with you about how brands are unnecessarily using the fact that their products are silicone free as a marketing point, but it’s worth pointing out that a lot of common silicones (like dimethicone) need stronger detergents to dissolve than a lot of oils would. Many oils can be easily washed out using a sulfate free cleanser, but the same cleanser would struggle to thoroughly wash out some of the tougher silicones. That’s not to mention that oils can be dissolved by other oils, meaning conditioners, which aren’t able to remove silicones, can often help to remove oil from hair. Respectfully, there’s a lot of peer reviewed articles online talking about the solubility of different silicones, so you should definitely check them out if you’re interested in learning more

@@IsabellaDemarko Yes I completely understand! But when making this video the message should've been: "No silicones are not damaging (to answer the title), they don't suffocate your hair and you don't need sulfates to wash them out but they may be too heavy for people with curly/wavy hair" as those are the common myths surrounding them and this video only reinforced them instead of debunking them. :) I'm sorry if l was a little too harsh, this was only meant as constructive critisism because you normally do extremely good research but I was a bit disappointed when watching this video and l would like people to stop having fear of silicones and know that there's nothing wrong with them :)

Clarifying your hair with a clarifying shampoo with sulfates is absolutely necessary for healthy scalp, silicones are not the only that can build up in your hair and specially in your scalp. As a matter of fact silicones are not the most common build up in the hair since most silicones used in hair products have being formulated to be water soluble, cleaned easily and not build up on top of each other so cocamidopropyl removing silicones from your hair is not impressive even water can remove silicones from your hair it's all the other stuff that it's not removing that you should be worried about specially in your scalp. Sometimes y'all forget that youtube is the blind leading the blind, none of you have any actual practical knowledge on how silicones are formulated for hair products and companies can sell you guys overpriced products that are ineffective bc someone somewhere has convinced you that something that it's actually easily removed from hair it's extremely hard to remove. Build up in your scalp, oils, dead skin, styling ingredients, sealing ingredients, minerals from hard water are actually hard to remove with our a sulfate based product. SPECIALLY build up in your scalp and that can have horrible consequences. There are tons of ingredients that can build up in your hair and more importantly in your scalp specially ingredients found in styling products. If you don't clarifying your hair and you wash your hair with sulfate free shampoo + use a lot of styling and moisturizing products the product build up in your scalp can lead to tons of issues like infection of the hair follicles, contact dermatitis, hair thinning, hair shedding, eccema in your scalp, dandruff and your scalp might be hypersensitive for a long time. You will need to get an steroids cream too to treat that. Get an actual clarifying shampoo (NOT just a SULFATE shampoo a CLARIFING SULFATE BASED shampoo bc not all sulfates are created equal tons of "soft" sulfates clean the hair very little and very gentle you can find them in baby's shampoo "soft" sulfates are not going to remove build up from your hair) like neutrogena anti residue and Paul mitchell number 2 and use it once a month you can use all the sulfate free shampoos you want as long as you use that once a month. Y'all refuse to use sulfates on your shampoo for years and wake up one day with thin hair, shedding and a layer of residue in your scalp that you can feel with your nails and wonder what happened when you could just follow a dermatologist advise instead of the advise of a random hair influencer that knows nothing about scalp skin or the science behind the formulation of hair products. And that layer of residue on your scalp won't be silicone btw, the silicones in hair products are not hard to remove at all that's why people who don't put silicone in their hair and use sulfate free shampoos still get product and dead skin and oil build up. Y'all are obsessed with silicones in hair but have no clue how silicones formulated for hair products are actually like or how they actually behave. And on top of that y'all are getting scammed bc of it. Imagine paying 15 or 20 dollars for a non sulfate shampoo that performs like a 6 dollars sulfate shampoo for babies and thinking that you know what you are doing or talking about. Stop believing everything that these companies that what to sell you overpriced "special" crap that you don't need tell you. And get information from and actually unbiased unpayed reputable cosmetic scientist bc this whole idea that the silicones found in hair products are hard to remove from the hair is absolutely fucking nonsense.

Yeah.. Even milder anionic surfactants like sodium cocoyl isothionate and sodium lauryl sarcosinate also are effective in removing silicones.. Especially when paired with cocomidopropyl betaine.. And usually most no sulphate shampoos have such a combination.. Also even dimethicone doesn't indefinitely deposit on the hair as is believed.. In fact mineral and hard water buildup are way more problematic than silicones.. Afope atoyebi has made a really good video about silicones..she is a trichologist.. And she talks in great details about the topic.. Maybe check it out..

I agree with this comment thread. Sulphates and silicones arent bad. The CGM is an unscientific cult based on haircare myths which might work for few but for the majority of people it'll do more harm

@@Andrea-dm4gd You obviously know what you are talking about and I have been down a rabbit hole of not knowing what is best to do for my hair for the last 2 years after loads of it shed. What is the best basic routine to use - dry scalp, oily roots, bleached damaged mid length to ends please? I am so confused by too much varying information if you could help at all I would so appreciate it. My hair doesn't like bond products like olaplex I just want to go back to basics and get my shampoo and conditioner right. I don't use styling products or heat. Thank you.

your most welcome

(Also I have medium porosity hair and is very damaged because I tried the "remove buildup with scissors" for hours every day. I have curly wavy hair, and I want to use silicones again, but only 1 or 2 silicones in the ingredient list that aren't higher up)