Is Eve to Blame? | Dr. Shabir Ally 

These are some of the major differences between the Biblical account of Adam and Eve and the Quranic one: - The Bible says it was a tree of knowledge, the Qur'ân makes no such mention. According to the Qur'ân, man is inherently inspired with the knowledge of good and evil and Adam was taught the nature of all things, even before his disobedience. - In the Biblical account, woman carries the burden of that mistake and in punishment God multiplied her agony in childbirth. There is not a single verse in the Qur'ân which suggests or implies in any way that the woman bears primary responsibility for that mistake. Pregnancy is described in the Qur'ân as noble and praiseworthy. - In the Bible, Eve is tempted by Satan who takes the form of a serpent. The Qur'ân says Satan tempted both of them and there is no mention at all of serpent, viper or snake. - After their disobedience, the Bible does not at all mention that Adam and Eve repented, whereas the Qur'ân emphasizes this point. According to the Qur'ân, they repented and God forgave them. - The Bible suggests that their coming to live on earth was a sort of punishment, while the Qur'ân says that was God's plan even before He created them.

I am Christian but I do love this Chanel

No one is to blame because they dont have any idea of commiting mistakes, the mistake is a preparation for the evolution of mankind...

One of these days would Love to hear Dr. Shabir Ali speak on who is actually buried in the various tombs around the Middle East. The reason I ask is that commonly a location will be identified as the tomb of some personage only to find out later that the location is actually empty (see: King David). Supposedly Aaron is buried in Petra and Ibrahim is buried in Hebron. Is there actually the body of Mohammed (pbuh) located in his tomb in Medina? Thoughts? What about the graves of his first wife and of Aisha? Thoughts?

even as an atheist i am greateful for these talks !

Eve is not the blame to me...

I started with Zakir Naik and lots of islamic speakers and at last stucked at Dr. Sabbir Aly. I started out various Qaris then I stucked at Mishary Rashid AlAfasy.

For me the story of Adam teach human that human had high curiosity, even though someone forbide them they will try it anyway, for example if someone give advice do not do drug but there still people that do drug because curiosity, it human nature

Thank you. I finally know the difference between Quaran and Hadith. If I were a Muslim I would refer the Quaran and not the Hadith

Timothy 2: 11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

Eve didn’t force Adam to eat it , he could’ve rejected it . If someone tells you to jump from a tall building it would be up to the person to use their judgment.

No non of the holy scriptures say that my mother is to blame she is the most beautiful woman ever !

In actuality when it says "desire" it is not to mean wants to be with. It means to be in an ongoing conflict with her husband. Meaning she will desire to rule over her husband but he will rule over her. Even if you go by the Christian standpoint Adam is the blame it is basically why he was condemned to work himself to death. Even from the Christian standpoint Eve is getting blame but Adam is really getting the bulk of the blame because he did not rebuke Eve and chastise the actions as the leader.

Maybe Dr Shabir should check the historical context of Paul writing about women preaching in church..this matter has been discuss in the scholarly world and thus way, many women preach today in churches.

Thank you Dr Shabyr🙏🙏🙏

Hi, I had a question that is related to this topic. My question is that why did Allah command the angels to bow only to Adam? why didn't he command them to bow to both Adam and Eve (Hawa)? I hope I haven't offended anyone with this question, and thank you!

Can't be clearer than this.

Thank you.

there is a clear Hadith Prophet said " Eve was created from Adams rib " & Quran support it says " و خلق منها زوجها " # nevertheless any Hadith narrated by Bukhari or Muslim is extremely reliable & authentic except 1 or 2 Ahadith #

At 11:15, what's the word being used? Acknowledging and?

The truth is not a manly thing it is independent from what our feelings try and ascribe to it

Dr. Shabir Ally with daughter nice show

As usual a great video from Dr. Ally. What does the Quran say about origin of Eve? Does the Quran, like the previous scriptures, say that Eve was created from Adam's chest bone?

One question to Ali shabir . is Cryonics permitted???? @Let the Quran speak

Is eve mention in Koran??

sayed

Critics like to make a big deal about the differences between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Genesis 1 is big picture. Genesis 2 is little picture. God does not do anything as an afterthought. He merely delayed Adam's introduction to Eve so that he would appreciate her more.

I respect his wider knowledge compared to other religious speakers but he also just like 99.9% of Abrahamaic faith leaders has not understood hidden Abrahamic messages.. Adam & Eve is the most misunderstopd story of humanity. The irony is that the tree they ate fruit from is called "Tree of Knowledge". Abrahamic God sees Knowledge as a bad thing for humans. It also gives the reason why. In bible it say, by gaining knowledge, humans reach status of God. They become god-like( Evolution process) and therefore eating from it must be forbidden. Knowledge is the most essential element for evolution process. The Abrahamic God wants the humans remain controlled and be forever on earth. It wants a servant version of human race. The highest good of human beings which is evolution is not his priority. Therefore he labels the snake as evil to fulfill his purpose and keep humans in ignorance rather finding their true divine nature through knowledge. (He does it for the good of humanity. So those who still have the courage to eat the fruit of wisdom afger his words, wojld be qualified for evolution as result of their intelligence and not beung ruled by demonic FEAR) The snake of the story wants to make you liberated. He is not the villain of the story. Quite opposite... people must understand Snake and God are not even two separate entities. They are two different manifestations(actors) of the same divine, playing the divine game on you with two diffetent roles. They are not Two. THEY ACT AS TWO. BUT THEY ARE ONE. One instills fear in your heart and the other one trying to push you to find your divinity. At the end those are able to use their intelligence and understand the divine beyond this duality show of God vs Satan and by dissolving fear and coming out successfully from this paradox game of the divine, get liberated. Nevertheless, it is not a stance against Abrahamic religions. It is just that to get liberated through them and evolve, one must be able to go beyond literal reading of their books and understand them beyond an ordinary person is capable of. So the percentage of such people is quite insignificant.

Yet there are many woman preachers in Christianity, yet no so many women religious leaders in Islam or Judaism. It seems that Christians understanding of these verses is totally different from it is depicted here. To be sure, the show is a short segment that tried to unpack a complex issue in a very short interval of time. The letters attributed to Paul can be questioned in Christianity, that is because the faith existed before those letters were written, and such letters had essentially ministerial functions to the various churches. Those letters also display reasoning and conclusions that the Christians is allowed to interpret and evaluate rigorously and critically. Thus the intellectual predisposition in Christianity offers a lot of room for intellectual flexibility and reasoning. The Islamic approach is very different insofar as more emphasis is submission, even without understanding. As such, Christians have been more successful at addressing sexism in religious functions and political and public life than Muslims, which explains why you can see so many women pastors, street preachers, ministers in churches (although the circumstances differ depending on the denomination followed), also in most Christians societies it’s easier for women to run for public offices and be elected as leaders. Islam can’t claim a theology that is more positive towards women without first correcting the narrative that women can’t perform certain religious role or should be limited in her functions in society- it’s a dichotomy between the claim of the religion and what it actually teaches and practice. A very interesting topic, but I wish were addressed with much less bias from the host. I also think Dr Shabir may have a more integrative faith where he may be quite comfortable with the idea of a society where men and women are equal socially, culturally, politically, and economically. Interesting show.

in my point of view,,, ALLAH(muslim),, ELOHIM(jewish) ,,, YAHWAH(Christians) all are same,,,, because their every character is same...

So much twisting , and speculation. Why not just say we don't know , better answer

I consider myself a culturally Christian but am agnostic as to whether there is a God. I believe that Jesus, Muhammad and Buddha existed as real people, but obviously not in contact with a God who may or may not exist. I think the biggest issue with the New Testament is Saul of Tarsus (St.Paul) Jesus is fully inclusive Paul is not. LOL i could go on and on and on

Eve wasn't an after thought my dear. If you notice God's pattern of creation you'll see that He had created all animals in pairs (male and female) before he made Adam. Common sense should give the understanding that God did not create this large planet for one man to inhabit and since Adam who was made with a reproductive system could not reproduce humanity by himself, should clue in any intelligent being that God intended to create woman from the beginning and she was not an after thought. God may have even created Eve the same time he created Adam but bring Adam to life first so he can use his rib to complete the woman to make them genetically compatible in every way and physically connected.

great as usual. mantrap.

The three religions are full of contradictions

Let the Quran Speak...why is the bible used as reference?🤔

👍

It's not eve's fault it was steve. Maby it was a lesbian? Anyways! In the Gospel of Jesus there will be a New Eden. Revalation 22 Hmm

I dreamt about it the fruit a petals on top a white fruit with bottom half black as soon as she picks the fruit and the black spread it was to late Adam lost the rainbow colour covering over him n he become normal looking awkward

Speculation not scholarship.

The Bible does not blame all women for Eve’s sin. But because of Original Sin, death entered the world. One cannot choose sin, without that sin then corrupting his/her flesh. As the Bible says, ‘The wages of sin is death 💀.’ And since we were all born of Adam and Eve, after they sinned, those resultant physical flaws entered our bloodline. It is like, let us say you are a baker. And you have but one pan from which to bake bread in the oven. If that pan becomes dented, then all the bread you bake in it, will have a blemish, an indentation in the risen loafs 🍞. Neither you or your mother are responsible for the degraded state of the human race now. But we all live with the corrupt flesh we have been born into.

This show is called “Let the Quran Speak” yet it’s mostly human speculation and Hadith nonsense. I agree. Let the Quran speak.

Genesis... Matthew... Revalation... Repent lol Isaiah47

When a rule is invented then so are rule breakers invented! So God is to blame! The purpose however was to place mankind on the path to transcend his animal nature. Once education and knowledge has ascended high enough then there is no longer any need for external rules. Morality is internalized, and spontaneous intelligence expresses harmony in its behaviour. Eating the apples was not a mistake, it was a blessing.

The Quran is no different when it comes to giving women second class status. The reason why Allah didn't mention eve responsible for anything is because Allah is giving Eve a second class status. Everywhere in Quran the text refers to Man as its primary audience. Would shabbir Ally blame his own religion the same way he blames other's would he admit that thier are wrong things in the Quran which according to todays standards are outdated. Instead he would say Subhanallah what a miracle Allah has shown us the light to beat women into submission.

is eve to blame ??? no your puppet