Is f1.2 better than f11 for portraits? Don't make this portrait mistake.

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As a portrait photographer we have choices to make. What lens to use? What settings? Do we chose a shallow depth of field or something closed down? What type of lighting to use?
Every choice we make has an impact on the final image. In this photography training tutorial, we show the differences between shooting at f1.2 and f8/f11... the difference is quite dramatic. This is a great portrait photography tutorial to show you the difference in your choice of f-stop and the impact it will have on your final portraits.
Which portrait did you like? There is something to be said for each one.
For this behind the scenes photoshoot, we used 2 fj200s and the Manny Ortiz Beauty Dish from Fj Westcott.
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@mskvarenina 11 месяцев назад

Great video as always Sal, you’re a real pro at both photography (of course) and putting together these educational vids. I definitely like the shallow DOF better, draws my attention to the model and not everything else I’m frame.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

I appreciate that! Its my goal... down and dirty to the point... happy to see this feedback!

@phyllisdantzler 11 месяцев назад

Those last 3 were BEAUTIFUL!!! I love the shallow depth of field!🥰

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@on-linesafaritours 5 месяцев назад

Sal, love this video. You really got some great shots. And Faren is Beautifull

@hughchristie4200 11 месяцев назад

Shallow depth of field for me Sal 🔥🔥👌🏾

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

agreed.

@olegsemenov2835 10 месяцев назад

Super video ,Sal! And yes- f/1.2 is much better. )) Many thanks for tips!

@sandyburch7820 11 месяцев назад

The shallow depth of field!! All were beautiful but the last two were my favorites!!!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

agreed.

@lindacarroll6077 11 месяцев назад

Love the shallow depth of field ... will have to convince my daughter to come in so I can practice on her! Great video. Love these.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Have fun! and THANK YOU!!

@waynosfotos 11 месяцев назад

And to think a person was arguing with Ray Roman that you were actors in the Death Valley wedding video. Now you are a household photography name in ANY household at over 1.6 million subs! Gr8 work to you both Cincotta's

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

haha... i never knew that... thats some funny shit. i would have loved to see that post.

@waynosfotos 11 месяцев назад

@@SalCincotta1 it should still be there on yourube. 👍

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

@@waynosfotos do you have a link? I don’t even know where to look or is it on our wedding video?

@waynosfotoscameras 11 месяцев назад

@@SalCincotta1 it was your wedding video on Ray's RU-vid channel, but Ray must of removed it as I just went through every comment and couldn't find it. The OP was claiming it was all staged and you two were actors. I also commented that they are real and with a little research you can find them. That you were a real couple and very accomplished photographers. Amazing what haters will post 🤣. Not sure how close you and Ray are (message him) but he commented too. He may remember the comment. 😂

@iunderstanphotography2780 11 месяцев назад

I always liked Sal and his style of teaching. A friend I know shoots beauty at low apeture and I don't know how! Turning the lights way down helps lol I need more of the face and eyes in focus but the separation from the background is very nice, and something I can use in my small studio ps that chocolate goddess, yes!

@maryholt5367 11 месяцев назад

Definitely shallow depth of field! ❤

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

mine too!

@stephanepiquet6651 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the aspect ratio Tip Sal very helpful! 😀🤙

@ritrattoaziendale 11 месяцев назад

If you provide untouched images (typically jpeg's at events) or there's no budget for PP, then cropping in camera may have sense to speed up the workflow in post, as the images are already crop-ready; but if I've time (and budget) to work on the picture, like at a wedding, I think it's best to shoot full res and then crop later, so I can choose lesser crop (maybe just 1.3x/1.4x) and lose less resolution, especially on cameras like R6 (like I have), R6II ad R3, where the 1.6x crop would result in 7,5/9mpx final from the original 20/24mpx, which is a res where you risk if bride&groom want to print something larger then 30/40cm on the long side.

@wendystumbaugh695 11 месяцев назад

I definitely like shallow DoF when I’m shooting on anything other than a solid backdrop. I absolutely adore the clarity of my subject at f/8 in my studio.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

amen to that!

@aussie2uGA 11 месяцев назад

F8 for the win if you ever do subject extraction off the background. You’ll never achieve a clean extraction with a shallow DOF

@luissalazar2021 11 месяцев назад

Yeah you’re always amazing, I just love your style and your freaking personality bro, you’re Amazing! Thank you for sharing .

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

appreciate you brother! working hard thats for sure.

@anitastevens9969 11 месяцев назад

Awesome video Sal. Love the 1.2 DOF.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@jhenry248 11 месяцев назад

Definitely shallow DOF is my favorite, great video as always.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Mine too!

@30dcanon 11 месяцев назад

1.2 all day!! I personally love shallow depth portraits. Plan to get the RF 85 1.2. And yea, if it’s not RF, it ain’t right!! 😁

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Totally agree! You will love it. its my go to portrait lens.

@deewonda1952 4 месяца назад

Hi Sal! I shoot mainly with an 85mm on my workhorse 5D Mark II (saving towards getting an R5!). Yes, shooting that wide open is scary to me but seeing how you set the shot up is helpful. This will work when I'm doing on location headshots and I want a busy background to go soft. Thank you!

@SalCincotta1 4 месяца назад

awesome ty so much. so something else to keep in mind... i have found that w mirrorless f1.2 is MUCH sharper than w DSLR... so i think you will be very happy when you switch.

@deewonda1952 4 месяца назад

I ABSOLUTELY KNOW I WILL!@@SalCincotta1

@jimhawthorn6932 11 месяцев назад

Gotta go with the shallow DOF Sal, thanks for doing these short videos.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Glad you like them!

@leroytademy 11 месяцев назад

Dang I like both! Going with the 1.2 at the 1.6 crop. Great video!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

ty my man!

@112206maximus 11 месяцев назад

Shallow DOF however I personally cannot afford the 1.2 RF. Always like to watch your videos and learning a lot. 👍🏼

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Right on!

@ZachDalin 11 месяцев назад

1.2 all day long! Beautiful shots

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Yes! Thank you!

@user-pz8nt4ml4q 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the insight into photo choices! Let me also be contrary for a few minutes. One thing I notice... in addition to the eyes, I want the "whole face," including the tip of the nose, to be in focus. There's more depth of field behind the point of focus than in front of the point of focus. If you focus strictly on the pupil, some of the depth of field is being wasted behind the point of focus, literally toward the background, which you are trying to blur as much as possible. So really, the point of focus should be shifted slightly in front of the eyes, if that's required to have the eyes and the tip of the nose "equally sharp," or to be more technical, with equal circles of confusion. (Other things enter here, degree of enlargement, display medium, viewing distance, but we'll ignore.) Granted, this may not come into play with most people-portraits. But there some reasonably typical portraits where it does come into play: portraits of or including a dog, especially a dog with a long snout... or portraits where the subject is pointing or holding something toward the camera, often found in environmental, sports and senior portraits. Too many times I see the eyes tack sharp, but the snout (or football or device or hand toward camera, etc) is a blur. I find that disturbing. Not only because of the blur, but from what I perceive as a bad choice on the part of the photographer (or subject, depending on whose idea it was). When I look at a dog, or someone holding something toward me, I perceive the entire "subject" in focus -- focus being a metaphor for awareness. I'm aware of the entire subject, not only the eyes. Thus, the "subject" is the person and "whatever the person is engaged with." If that "whatever" is toward the camera, the photographer might choose/need f8 (or 11 or 22 or 64) to get the entire subject in focus. If that causes problems, separating the subject from the background, that points to a problem with the design of the photo. If the subject is so close to the background that you can't achieve the subject-background separation you want, using the f-stop required for the subject... the photographer might need different pose, different location, post-production blurring, etc, etc. Again, thanks for the thought provoking video!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

youre not wrong on the nose... fair point for sure.

@CreativeDEZ 11 месяцев назад

All of the images looked great. My Nikon Z9 have that crop ability, I use it from time to time

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

its a neat little feature for sure.

@tommy2z2z 11 месяцев назад

Punching up on the sensor to crop mode is killer! I use it on my Nikons.

@bobyounger3789 11 месяцев назад

Dude did not know that about the aspect ratio on my R5 thanks!!!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

you are very welcome!

@danad8716 11 месяцев назад

Excellent video! As the saying goes, "butter it up."

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Exactly!

@GeraldTookes 11 месяцев назад

This was a great video. Thanks for sharing!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

You are so welcome!

@shannonp7911 11 месяцев назад

Love the shallow DOF!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

yes indeed!

@gvasquez330 11 месяцев назад

To each their own taste. I like both. Learned something new with the crop aspect on my R5 Thanks.

@brodieledfordstudios1480 11 месяцев назад

It is a cool and useful feature! I believe most FF mirrorless bodies have some form of this feature you just have to dig around in the menu a bit.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Right on!

@Keith80027 11 месяцев назад

Love the look of F1.4 to F1.2. Just need to buy a 85 f1.2.

@pcblensman 11 месяцев назад

Good stuff

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Appreciate it

@jerrym8140 11 месяцев назад

Open it up my friend ❤❤ Sure there is a time and place for wanting more in focus but in general I’m the same way as you, open it up baby 😁

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Yes! Thank you!

@steveperryphoto431 11 месяцев назад

I prefer the shallow depth of field. I shoot the Sigma 105mm f/1.4 and I love it.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

GREAT LENS!!

@christophera.turner3394 11 месяцев назад

As always Sal, informative and helpful. Question Sal, are you originally from NY? As a NYer that accent of yours harkens memories of home.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

haha. yes i am. brooklyn ny!! :)

@djrocko1200 11 месяцев назад

I absolutely just prefer shooting portraits at 1.2 Great work as always sir

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

ty ty

@PsychedelicChameleon 10 месяцев назад

I don't know why anyone would prefer other than shallow depth of field, when the subject's face is the very meaning of the portrait.

@jrmandrial 11 месяцев назад

Sal, what light meter is that? And can you use it outside? Shallow DOF gets my vote.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

ty ty. yes - to outside.. and this is the sekonic light meter.

@jamesmlodynia8757 11 месяцев назад

It all depends upon the camera format that you're using and the look that you're trying to achieve, F1.2 looks different on full frame, APSC and micro 4/3 focal length and distance from your subject will also determine your depth of field.

@gregshawphotography8828 11 месяцев назад

I definitely like doing a shallow DOF on a busy back ground, but on a solid background I us f/8

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

gives a good look for sure.

@manoharmgr8235 11 месяцев назад

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@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

ty ty!!

@user-dc5kc6nm9d 11 месяцев назад

I love that you are lighting from the perspective of the window rather than fighting it. Oh, and Brodie absolutely killed it as your lighting assistant.

@brodieledfordstudios1480 11 месяцев назад

Thanks John 😁 It was a great shoot!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

tyty

@gr-os4gd 11 месяцев назад

1.2 rocks, though I use the wonderful Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.2 S. 👍

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

ty ty

@MartinV. 11 месяцев назад

Great Video!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@brianasealy6257 11 месяцев назад

Well I have NEVER seen anyone talk about using the crop method that was COOL as heck! My favorite were those!! Love your content always have! ❤

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@frankline.gonzalez-dwindt2355 11 месяцев назад

Thank you!!!! just a comment as you said it's just a style not a mistake

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

absolutely!!

@okeefest 11 месяцев назад

What is the benefit of a DX crop in camera versus cropping the full frame image in post?

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

maybe not much... just allows you to shoot it cropped right in camera. some people - myself included - like to see final... but to your point - same can be done in post.

@JGZphotography 11 месяцев назад

Good informational video for newcomer photographers to understand DOF. But, is there a reason to change the crop mode on the Canon R5 to 1.6x, when taking the full frame and cropping in post to 1.6x yields identical results with no degradation of the image? The full frame CR3 on an R5 is 56mb, and in-camera sensor cropping to 1.6x produces about 25mb, or a reduction of 31mb. Cropping the R5's CR3 in post yeilds a similar mb count. While the Canon R5 can simulate the crop of a 135 mm lens when using an 85mm, wouldn't taking the shot with a real 135 mm take advantage of the entire 45 MP count of the R5, or whatever camera is used, for maximum detail. The alternative is to get 1.6x closer to the subject, but at f/1.2, the DOF gets mighty thin.

@SalCincotta1 10 месяцев назад

i would always use the correct focal length. that was not my point... it was if you dont have it... or are in the middle of a shoot and need to adjust quickly, etc. hth.

@brucenichols7760 11 месяцев назад

Shallow depth of field, absolutely.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

100%

@bigrobotnewstoday1436 11 месяцев назад

Its more like a 136mm at f1.92 when using a 1.6 crop.

@Dahliawoman 11 месяцев назад

Can you put the images side by side?

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

well... crap... i cant now. :) but good feedback for future vids... :)

@mikhailmc0 11 месяцев назад

When you crop in doesn't DOF also change closer to f1.9 although its still f1.2 light gathering at 135?

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

im not sure i follow... exposure doesnt change at al.

@mikhailmc0 11 месяцев назад

@@SalCincotta1 not exposure but DOF. because I use a m43 setup the challenge with the crop is the DOF change. exposure remains at f1.2. however with the crop at 135mm there will still be a thin DOF but with a little less bokeh. just wanted to confirm that detail. love the your vids and keep up the good work!

@jessestarks3128 11 месяцев назад

It like shooting full body closer to wide open but will stop down as I move in closer.

@silverdoggg 11 месяцев назад

of course there's no wrong way to shoot it but put that 85 1.2 at something like f4-f5.6 and we're talking about God tier sharpness AND separation

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

lol... so true!

@mikel5094 11 месяцев назад

DOF is defiantly awesome. , Are you using 2 fj200 one for the backdrop and the other in the beauty dish ?

@mikel5094 11 месяцев назад

I just replayed it. Got my answer

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

perfect!

@mikel5094 11 месяцев назад

Hi Sal I mean to ask what’s the Kaven are you set too 5600k ?

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

5500 @@mikel5094

@mikel5094 11 месяцев назад

@@SalCincotta1 thank you 🙌🏽

@michaelallen6144 11 месяцев назад

Nice!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@JeffCreates 11 месяцев назад

I think it's probably the busy nature of the backgrounds, but that 1.2 background doesn't look right at all. I'd assume the bokeh is normally very nice, but in this instance it's not. I much prefer the clarity of the f8...and I'm normally at f1.8 for portraits. Nice comparison though.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

appreciate it !!

@dt_kathybrown 11 месяцев назад

Both looks are very, very different and I hadn't really considered going 1.2 before ... I am not though! The last image was my favorite, Faren you look gorgeous!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Great to hear!

@tammie2222 11 месяцев назад

Shallow all day!

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

yepper!

@richardgollar6300 11 месяцев назад

Shallow depth of field all day long. My RF85 f1.2 is my favorite lens period.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

AGREED!! ty ty.

@clarkconway8796 11 месяцев назад

No contest! f1.2 all day💜

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

Agreed!!

@vladbox1 11 месяцев назад

F1.2 is buttery but clients (especially corporate) dont like them, so I compromise F5.6 to F8......

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

agreed!

@edross2826 11 месяцев назад

It wouldn't be better to get closer instead of cropping the sensor and losing info?. I'm just a pixel holic I don't want to lose any information, otherwise, why get a hight megapixel camera.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

for when you cant, right? can i turn a 200mm into a 300mm? if im shooting wild life or sports? in this case there was a table in the way. this is no different than hollywood shooting 8k video to punch in or pan and zoom. youre not using 40-50meg to print. i promise you.. these print 20x30 with no loss of detail. :)

@edross2826 11 месяцев назад

@@SalCincotta1 Definitely useful for those scenarios. Thanks, man I enjoy watching your videos. Great stuff

@jasonthompson2364 11 месяцев назад

Definitely 1.2

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

yes!

@dozabear181 11 месяцев назад

But isn't cropping in just effectively "zooming" in? Couldn't you walk closer to your subject, if you had the room? Cropping doesn't necessarily apply any compression as a true 135 would.

@SalCincotta1 11 месяцев назад

true. but you cant always move closer... which in this video i had a table there. if im at a wedding... it allows me to punch in. its no different than video and how 8k video is used to pan and zoom.