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Is Fasting Before Mass Still a Thing? 

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For many years, the Catholic Church required strict fasting before one could receive communion at Mass. Today, few people talk about it anymore. Is it still a rule, and what should Catholics do?
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@patrickharkin6936
@patrickharkin6936 4 года назад
Please pray for me, as I try to turn away from repetitive sin. I will also pray for all viewers and you father Casey.
@rubenmartinez4346
@rubenmartinez4346 4 года назад
@Patrick Harkin pray the rosary daily as it helped me with repetitive sin.
@hughmungus4089
@hughmungus4089 4 года назад
The only thing that will save you is conversion of mind don’t just avoiding sin because of fear...try to ask yourself why you do what you do....pray from the heart as well. Rosary won’t save you unless you pray from your heart not your mind
@Kevinohanlons
@Kevinohanlons 4 года назад
@@rubenmartinez4346 Pray the Rosary everyday, it defeated a habitual sin I had been battling for all my adult life. Check out the 15 promises for those who pray the Rosary everyday, promised to us by Our Blessed mother.
@neethuantony
@neethuantony 4 года назад
Ask Mother Mary for help, If you can say the Rosary do that And St.Michael the Archangel. And Keep God above all, ask yourself before doing something will God be wanting you to do this.If it's a No then don't do it. Finally it's a grace that God gives us to not sin.We'll pray for you.
@elliotdavies1418
@elliotdavies1418 3 года назад
Just keep praying: Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, Sancta Dei Genetrix. Nostras deprecationes ne despicias in necessitatibus nostris, sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper, Virgo gloriosa et benedicta
@joehouston2833
@joehouston2833 4 года назад
Love being a Catholic & the consecration of the Eucharist is beautiful.
@baoduong2203
@baoduong2203 4 года назад
I don’t eat or drink on Sundays mornings until I receive the Eucharist. It’s nice to know the history behind this.
@libertasinveritas3198
@libertasinveritas3198 4 года назад
I once fasted when I was a teenager and serving at mass. Outcome: I stood up too quickly, my blood sugar was low and I lost consciousness in front of the whole community. My head fell on the hard stone floor and 911 had to be dialed. Yikes. 😅 Now I attend evening masses and I only fast three hours before and one after Eucharist.
@jeremysmith7176
@jeremysmith7176 4 года назад
I strongly wish this was emphasised more.
@TechnologicZb
@TechnologicZb 4 года назад
The Eastern Orthodox Church still has the original fast. There are exceptions for people who need to take medicine in the morning, but healthy parishioners are expected to abstain from water and food from 12am till communion.
@lapun47
@lapun47 4 года назад
Though in that Church too one's confessor is allowed to grant exemptions.
@Czellbuborek
@Czellbuborek 4 года назад
Rightly so. I need to add that some of the problems pertaining to the RCC are irrelevant to the Orthodox as they can only celebrate one Liturgy a day, usually in the morning (the evening Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts might be an exception, but as far as I know, you can have a light meal in the morning).
@theguardian6464
@theguardian6464 4 года назад
yes, and they don't celebrate liturgy daily...I was allowed to take communion in Orthodox Church as Catholic but had to fast starting midnight. And I've heard that Orthodox also need to go confession always before recieving Eucharist.
@DanishJoe394
@DanishJoe394 4 года назад
TheGuardian Catholics aren’t allowed to commune with Orthodox unless it’s under persecution or in times of dying..pretty sure you committed a sin.
@Czellbuborek
@Czellbuborek 4 года назад
@@theguardian6464 I don't know how that happened, either. Some orthodox dioceses don't even recognize non-Orthodox baptisms. But some Orthodox communities do have daily Liturgies, like the chapel I go to in Budapest.
@GenXer82
@GenXer82 4 года назад
Interesting topic. Yes, today everyone should be able to fast at least one hour. After all, the Eucharist is given 45 minutes into Mass, so this is definitely doable for everyone.
@gregpaul882
@gregpaul882 Год назад
Almost everyone could fast for 12 hours. There’s really almost no reason you couldn’t go without food for 12 hours. Water maybe. But even then, you’d have to be pretty frail or seriously sick to not survive drinking for 12 hours.
@arizonagreenbee
@arizonagreenbee 10 месяцев назад
"doable for everyone" yk unless you're chronically ill and have strict eating times. id rather a follower not die because their blood sugar dropped too low during communion.
@arizonagreenbee
@arizonagreenbee 10 месяцев назад
​@@gregpaul882unless youre chronically ill. i have friends who have to eat or drink every 2-3 hours or their blood sugar drops too low.
@nannettefreitag2055
@nannettefreitag2055 4 года назад
You are so gifted for this.. What a wonderful spokesperson for our faith. God Bless you.. I have learned so much from your segments..
@BreakingInTheHabit
@BreakingInTheHabit 4 года назад
Thanks!
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 4 года назад
@@BreakingInTheHabit Hi Casey, may I ask you do you ever get invited to speak at protestant church events? I ask because I feel you would be fantastic at answering and explaining the myths of the Roman Catholic Church and explaining the misconceptions and wrong ideas my fellow sisters and brothers in the reformed churches have of the Roman church. With Blessings from the United Kingdom.
@wernerdahlberg6391
@wernerdahlberg6391 4 года назад
God bless you Father Casey.
@AmericanwrCymraeg
@AmericanwrCymraeg 9 месяцев назад
In the Orthodox Church, we still require fasting from the night before, but allow pastoral discretion for things like age, medicine, pregnancy, etc. In my experience as a priest, it's very much something that most people practice without an issue and those who have a medical or other need go with the minimum needed. It's not a heavy burden but is very useful for preparing for receiving Christ.
@karolynnnye3083
@karolynnnye3083 4 года назад
I always followed the one hour rule. Thanks for this topic. I will share this.
@USMCVetDawn
@USMCVetDawn 4 года назад
Wow! Just yesterday, I Googled “why did Catholic fasting practices change?” 😂 Thank you! Slightly off topic, but it would be great to see a video about traditional fasting practices - Monday’s, Wednesday’s, and especially Lent, as we’re getting close! The only explanatory videos I’ve found, in regard to the specific rules/practice have been on Orthodox channels. Thanks for another great video!
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
Dawn Well my mother and other adults explained to me that many of the weakest people would faint in mass, get sick 🤒, go into the hospital 🏥 and some would die. The Bishops were inundated with requests for an exempt status and people would still judge them for not following the Lenten regulations.
@swish3183
@swish3183 4 года назад
Fantastic video, great insight as always
@badass.bob1
@badass.bob1 Год назад
Love your work, Fr Casey
@mariajosemantilla11
@mariajosemantilla11 4 года назад
Father Cassey can you make a video about fasting as an spiritual practice and spiritual weapon, against gluttony and other sins regarding the concupiscence of the flesh. Your videos are really interesting and help me grow in the knowledge of this beautiful church, thank you for spreading our catholic faith and evangelizing through this ministry. 😊🙏🏽
@deniseparrott9678
@deniseparrott9678 3 года назад
So informative, thank you!
@robertyoung5010
@robertyoung5010 4 года назад
Thank you for your videos.
@Wolffur
@Wolffur 11 месяцев назад
Good to know. I plan to start going to mass on Saturday nights.
@JayRedding12_12
@JayRedding12_12 4 года назад
This was something I was wondering about. I haven't received Communion in many years, and I'm looking forward to again soon.
@supreme87878
@supreme87878 4 года назад
The Church requires the faithful at least once a year, the communion during the lenten season.
@c3piano
@c3piano 4 года назад
Thank you for giving us the history on fasting. Would you please clarify the rules for Lenten fasting?
@jen9774
@jen9774 4 года назад
@@damienparoski2033 thank you for this infomation.
@c3piano
@c3piano 4 года назад
Damien aren't there age exemptions? That is actually the clarification I need.
@c3piano
@c3piano 4 года назад
@Damien, not quite, I meant an age like beyond 65 or 70, that the fasting rule is lifted. Thanks
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
The age of 14 is when children start the Lenten Fast and 59 is when you are of age to not have to fast except for Ash Wednesday and Fridays of no meat 🥩. I am exempt because of my allergies but I fast anyway. My children are exempt as well due to medical issues. They offer up other sacrifices. I abstain from meat 🍖 on all Fridays of the year. That rule was not done away with. Many people think that it was though. My mother is past the age of fasting but she does the fasting of meat on Fridays and Ash Wednesday. It’s ingrained per se.
@emtedee985
@emtedee985 4 года назад
@Sunil Sunny there has never been a requirement to fast or abstain on Sundays at any time of the year, so i don't understand the need for confession
@gregpaul882
@gregpaul882 Год назад
Based! I’m doing this. I didn’t even know. I feel like there’s so many things in Catholicism I didn’t know that are super cool. The Church needs to teach this stuff more. More fasting. More praying. More Latin. Less electric guitars. Thank you.
@ccbarr58
@ccbarr58 6 месяцев назад
Less electric guitars? I have heard acoustic guitars. Atmy church there was no piano or organ, just us people ssinging. It was nice when guitars/ pianos came. Gave us musical help. And Latin - I don't understand it.
@projectmustardseed857
@projectmustardseed857 4 года назад
Thank you...
@patriciahaskins1956
@patriciahaskins1956 4 года назад
Great topic - thanks for presenting it! I must take medication four times daily. Although I have been assured by my confessor that a sip of water and medication are allowable, I still feel terrible guilt. Thats my burden to carry, I suppose! To me, nothing in this world should be more important than receiving Holy Communion. Also, Father Casey, thank you for this channel. It's nice to have a place where I can learn the opinions of others and at the same time express my own without being bullied! God bless and be well! 😍😍😍
@RianeBane
@RianeBane 4 года назад
Please do mention to your confessor that you still feel guilty about taking medication and water before communion! He may be able to offer some advice about combating that irrational guilt. Your reverence for the Eucharist is admirable.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
Try not to feel guilty about that because that is not from God. God wants you to be well when you receive him. It is you getting ready for God and being at your best for God. I would mention it in confession as well because then you can give it to God.
@jen9774
@jen9774 4 года назад
I follow the one hour rule because I have to have medication first thing in the morning. But I know my friend who gives me a lift to church does not have anything after 8p.m. and she's over eighty.
@emtedee985
@emtedee985 4 года назад
Paula - you can take medication at any time before Mass and Communion
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 года назад
I’d never heard that water wasn’t allowed. Thank you for the video.
@KeithStrang
@KeithStrang 4 года назад
It’s interesting how current research has found that fasting is incredibly good for you, especially for the sick. It’s difficult for the mind to fast, but not the body.
@mrs.smilson5463
@mrs.smilson5463 4 года назад
Apparently Our Lady appeared to a lady named Ida Pederman in the late 1940 to 1950's. I think asking her to send the message to the Pope about fasting with the times needing to be changed to allow as many Catholics as possible to be able to receive Our Lord. It is very important in these times that we strive for daily Mass and Holy Eucharist daily as per Pope St Pious X wished for the faithful.
@1622roma
@1622roma 2 года назад
I am in awe that I found this! Yet, what states here is true!
@TheLeonhamm
@TheLeonhamm 4 года назад
This one made me laugh, thank you, dear Fr Casey. The Fast only became a real 'problem' when the link between Communion and Confession was broken in the Catholic conscience .. once very few souls dared to receive Holy Communion in a state of impenitent mortal sin (a reality long since cast aside by most 'Catholics', clergy and laity alike). Going to the Holy Sacrifice did not - and still does not - require physical communion at the Eucharist for the laity, it was (and is) a privilege, not a right. Indeed, for the vast majority of working people not eating or drinking (anything, even medicines) between midnight and first morning Mass, at dawn, was (and is to this day) the norm of ordinary life .. even working as missionary priests and hospital carers; yet being tied to rolling shift work, especially during war-time and its incessant demands for increased industrial output, made the old-time fasting rules impractical for vast numbers of factory workers .. constantly in danger of being bombed into kingdom-come. Thus far from being harsh, merciless, unforgiving and legalistic - the pastors of the time recognised the need, and Ven Pius XII happily permitted extended exemptions to the rule (thus, btw, proving it); none of which properly applied to the Americas (before AD 1941 in the US of A) or neutral states even in Europe. The idea of going to Mass (let alone Communion) after mid-day (12 PM/ 1 PM) was most unusual, other than in areas where Penal Laws made any Mass a perilous business; again, the harsh conditions of a 20th-century total-war economy made the exceptions both a temporary and an expedient necessity (in a few places); afternoon and evening Services, if any, tended to be devotions like Benediction, Sunday Vespers, etc. And what have all the exceptions and exemptions, and mitigations and changes to the 'rule' of an altogether ordinary fasting time achieved since the revisions under Ven Pius XII (1953) and St Paul VI (1964) ...? 'Mortification aims at the liberation of man, who often finds himself, because of concupiscence, almost chained by his own senses. Through corporal fasting man regains strength, and the wound inflicted on the dignity of our nature by intemperance is cured by the medicine of a salutary abstinence.' St Paul VI, Paenitmini (1966). P.S. Some medical tests require such fasting even now, often around ten or twelve hours. Staggeringly few souls suffer any lasting - or even temporary - ill-effects from this occasional mortification. True, elderly or ill priests walking many miles between weekly/ monthly Mass stops could suffer greatly - or perhaps irrevocably - and, sadly, there are rather few sturdy, indeed, strapping young fellow-me-lads like Fr Casey to take up the hard work cases (even as a mortification); but then there are loads of Extra-ordinary Ministers of the Eucharist to do the donkey work (without the sacrifice or the Holy Mass).
@TheLeonhamm
@TheLeonhamm 4 года назад
@@icxcnika2037 (Oops! I replied to your comment here - in large part - in answer to someone else's response (am I getting old?) ) (I am) Against it (the filioque clause) - if it involves the Greek/ Slavonic form (of the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed) - because it is both unnecessary and dangerous; (I am) for it, if it reflects the Latin/ German/ Frankish/ English etc form, because (there) it is both necessary and useful. As for the various modern Eastern Rites, and their orthodoxies, sadly they are corrupt and narrowed - not least out of worldly concerns and stark political realities; I doubt St Athanasius would recognise much in them worthy of praise. The Eastern forms of the Divine Liturgy have - by and large - escaped interference of imperial power and secularist societies since the Ottoman Sultans became their de facto ruling lords (outside Russia and India etc); most are now locked into the forms favoured by the last Constantinopolitan imperial court (cautious-Aristoteliansim/ bitter-anti-Unionism), moreover the 'Roman Millet' of Ottoman rule (the control of the Greek communions) was received from the Sultan as it had been from the emperor; thus, the Homologia tou Gennadiou (Confession of Gennadios - to Sultan Mehmet II) and a vigorous anti-Westernism became the only political reality known by the ecumenical Greek Communion (aka New Rome) until the fall of the Sultans, AD 1922. The least we say of the Soviet influence on Russian (Third Rome) imperial Orthodoxy the better. And as for the social grip of Americanism (a heresy, btw) on the widely differing National Churches using the term Orthodox in US America - to distinguish them from papal Rome - that is currently endemic and ubiquitous, though as yet un-challenged and ill-defined. So: Is the Greek Liturgy of St John Chrysostom of more authentically orthodox (Roman) Catholic origin than the New Order of St Paul VI's Latin Missal? .. yes; but then so too is the Sarum Rite or the Mozarabic, both are of comparable antiquity; what then of the Roman Rite, reaffirmed at Trent, was it as ancient in origin as the Liturgy of Sts James or Mark, yes, yet mere antiquity alone is not enough to guarantee the validity of the Offering .. a distinction that Genndius the Scholar would understand better than many pastors today. God bless. And thanks for the thought-provoking response.
@TheLeonhamm
@TheLeonhamm 4 года назад
@@icxcnika2037 The modifications of the Fast (rather than the filioque clause in the Creed, which is what I was wittering on about at the start of my other reply) can be both useful and necessary .. if their exceptions remain exceptions (of course, all too often they become the norm and then the rule). The Eastern forms are still largely set in an agricultural setting, the Western forms of fast are tied - most often - to a hyper-industrialised or post-industrial perspective; it is rather pointless to be for or against a set of different social realities, in different places, at different times; nonetheless, the agricultural form of Fast is the Christian fast, full stop, the industrial forms are exemptions from it .. and, in truth, laborious war-time work on long mid-night shifts requires a different way of thinking, in moral reason, to working with the rising sun and its setting. God bless.
@spindleforceengraving750
@spindleforceengraving750 4 года назад
I've been skipping breakfast and lunch for awhile now. I can no longer take on this sacrifice I took on, on my own. I still fast until I receive Christ in the Blessed Sacrament.
@theearlofelm9168
@theearlofelm9168 3 года назад
whoops, just finished RCIA and it never covered this, I will now correct this.
@BruceWayne-po5kf
@BruceWayne-po5kf 3 года назад
Just because the rules are more flexible now doesn't mean you can receive Communion if you haven't fasted for a hour and are well
@awesomemantroll1088
@awesomemantroll1088 3 года назад
I wanted to work out after mass, so I made myself some breakfast, but then I heard this. I'll eat after mass.
@macmedic892
@macmedic892 4 года назад
Topic suggestion: Vigil Mass, or why Catholics go to Sunday Mass on Saturday. You could compare the Mass of anticipation vs. true vigil Masses (Christmas, Easter, Pentecost), and why does it always seem to be at 4:00? I know it won’t be too much later than that, owing to Saturday evening weddings. I’m in New Orleans-a HUGE Catholic city-and just about every parish has their vigil at 4:00.
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 4 года назад
Las Vegas Catholic Cathedral has two vigil masses, with one at 2.30pm and the other at 4.30pm - Is this a joke? I am an Anglican and I am confused. 2.30pm - it the afternoon and not even sunset.
@giovannimartini6405
@giovannimartini6405 4 года назад
4:16 TOTALLY
@richardbenitez1282
@richardbenitez1282 11 месяцев назад
I do but as one who is 79 I don’t count. I have noticed 30’s or so taking about meeting for breakfast before mass. Weird
@smm1628
@smm1628 4 года назад
I drink water, tea or juice if mass is before noon. I do not eat unless I'm taking medication or sick. When I truly understood why we fasted before mass, I decided not to chew anything before I received the best meal.
@GinnyandEric
@GinnyandEric 4 года назад
“...except for only water and medicine.” (6:30) That answers my question about coffee! Thanks, Father 😃
@BreakingInTheHabit
@BreakingInTheHabit 4 года назад
Yes, people often ask about coffee. While black coffee may not have calories, it is still a food substance, and so no allowed within the fasting period.
@GinnyandEric
@GinnyandEric 4 года назад
@@BreakingInTheHabit Makes perfect sense. Thank you so much.
@hanesjedricabiera2691
@hanesjedricabiera2691 5 месяцев назад
It is a sin that i fast 57 miinutes after receiving the Holy Eucharist?​@@BreakingInTheHabit
@humanoidwolf
@humanoidwolf 4 года назад
This interesting
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 4 года назад
At the Mass of St. Peter conducted by the SSPX we follow the 3 hour rule.
@SimplyZeyma
@SimplyZeyma 4 года назад
“Fasting is important but it should never be a reason to skip communion” YESS I love that! You explained this so well
@junepaologuarin8762
@junepaologuarin8762 4 года назад
I was taught that no food, water or medicine 1 hour prior to communion.
@billmartin3561
@billmartin3561 4 года назад
How about rules for fasting during Lent? Is no meat on Fridays still a thing? Full fast on Good Friday?
@drumsandcymbals8779
@drumsandcymbals8779 4 года назад
We need to start being better voices in our community, and I say community because we are all one in Christ. My message is to not be afraid of confronting a priest on what they allow, now a priest can't force the people to fast before communion but I've seen priest allow ridiculous things during adoration. I once went to a Advent adoration party and they had a Christian pop band playing music on the PFLC's stage, with the lyrics on a huge screen in the background, radiating the energy of a sing-along kids' bop music video. Then they placed the monstrance with Christ contained, on the stage. No wonder Catholics don't believe in transubstantiation. All I'm saying is when I'm a priest, I won't allow things like this. God bless
@Migz2682
@Migz2682 3 года назад
Why is this never mentioned before the mass, before communion, in catechism or in church at all. Canon laws like this that can be broken easily should be reinforced and reminded either in bulleten literature, before mass or during announcements. Some people dont even know this exists.
@Wumza
@Wumza 3 года назад
Agreed I didn’t know this
@evancawley3236
@evancawley3236 2 года назад
I never knew this. So if I'm right before receiving the Eucharist we have to be fasting for one hour ?
@torspedia
@torspedia 4 года назад
Glad they've changed it to 1 hour before, as I know that I'd not be able to last too long without drinking water (at the very least).
@torspedia
@torspedia 4 года назад
@Bert Clayton I know but my mouth gets extremely dry, if I don't have [at least] water every now and then.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
Toran Nothing wrong with a little water 💦. Don’t let negative Nellie’s get to you.
@user-et8vm9cc3t
@user-et8vm9cc3t 3 года назад
Same for me. Fasting from midnight on until mass seems fairly doable to me, but it is the thought of not drinking any water that bothers me.
@thekikupiku
@thekikupiku 4 года назад
I don't get it. The first Eucharist happened right after supper!
@florian8599
@florian8599 4 года назад
The first Eucharist WAS supper!
@thekikupiku
@thekikupiku 4 года назад
@@florian8599 ooooh so you mean the whole Mass is like... Oooh, I get it now 😅 thanks!
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 4 года назад
They should fast at least one hour before the mass starts. One hour before communion is not really fasting. We really should go back to start fasting before you go to bed.
@petersclafani4370
@petersclafani4370 Год назад
I fast everyday. From 5pm to 1 or 2 pm next day
@ginoongmakatavlogs1268
@ginoongmakatavlogs1268 4 года назад
can I ask what is Jansenism and how it affect the church?
@jesusbotello7081
@jesusbotello7081 4 года назад
@ Father Jim Baron >> 5:42
@UniversidadKerygma
@UniversidadKerygma 5 месяцев назад
Bienvenidos
@ccbarr58
@ccbarr58 6 месяцев назад
I was taught this way. Only 1 hour before mass seems ridicculous.
@LiztasticGames
@LiztasticGames 4 года назад
Breakfast aka breaking the fast
@funnynickline
@funnynickline 4 года назад
🙏🙇‍♂🙏.
@ryanryan-zj2dy
@ryanryan-zj2dy 3 года назад
dose christians fast? there is a time or day for it?
@scurvydog20
@scurvydog20 4 года назад
My problem is it's gotten to the point you're practically ok unless you are eating in church
@jen9774
@jen9774 4 года назад
Or chewing gum and sticking it under the pew seat before joining the queue in the aisle - don't ask me how I know
@scurvydog20
@scurvydog20 4 года назад
To an extent it is simply that the church started trying to win converts rather than make sure what they were convering to. I'm fairly traditional but I don't know much of the traditions and they aren't really being taught.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
scurvydog20 Well before Vatican II there was the rule of fasting mentioned in the video above. Priests had the right to not marry you and your spouse if you were both not Catholic. If you were Catholic and committed suicide your family had to go to a different church for a funeral or bury you without one and you couldn’t be buried in a Catholic graveyard. Women were not allowed to be lector’s and girls were not allowed to be altar servers. Women could prepare the altar and clean the sacristy. The whole mass was in Latin and you could read the English Translation while at mass. The Homily is about the only thing that was in English. People were misinformed on many of the rules back at that time and would pass judgement on others. So it made things difficult and many people left the church. There was the priest that would dip the body into the blood 🩸 and give it to you. He could also spoon 🥄 the blood 🩸/wine into your mouth 👄 as you are kneeling 🧎‍♀️. There was altar rails. Hopefully this helps answer some questions about the past traditions you want to know about.
@danrugbyman
@danrugbyman Год назад
What's lost in this presentation is that 'going to Mass' is not the same as 'receiving the Eucharist'. The Churches current laws on fasting, especially before receiving the Eucharist are laughably easy - not much of a sacrafice at all. Adjusting the law for priests doing kultiple Masses makes a lot of sense. But how can this priest say in one breath that "no one should ever miss out on the Eucharist because of a fasting issue" AND "that fasting is an indispensable part of our tradition"?
@edenc5320
@edenc5320 4 года назад
I cant receive the Eucharist ... but I still fast before mass
@edenc5320
@edenc5320 4 года назад
i am a remarried catholic
@fathercyprian
@fathercyprian 4 года назад
I understand and appreciate the need to make allowances in cases where there is genuine pastoral necessity. However, it seems to me that to reduce the fast to one hour prior to communion (that is, the moment of reception and not the commencement of the Mass), is essentially a way of removing the fast entirely without explicitly admitting that this is what is being done. In fact, it is so brazen that it would be hilarious if it weren't such a spiritually significant matter. I was raised Anglo-Catholic and the communion fast was just what we did. I have now been Orthodox for 15 years, where the communion fast is kept strictly. So this has been part of my discipline for my whole life. Looking back at all of the churches that I have attended regularly, I could have eaten a bacon sandwich as I was leaving the house to go to church on Sunday morning, and according to the 1-hour rule, I would have been considered to have kept the communion fast. In fact, I can think of some Masses I've been to where I could have had a burger during the opening hymn and still this would have satisfied the 1-hour rule. How can anybody call this a preparatory fast and expect to be taken seriously? Fr Casey, I have watched your videos for about 18 months now and I love the work you do, but the indefensible just cannot be defended.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
Fr Cyprian Astley most Catholics still do more than one hour fasting. There are many times that I have not eaten since supper time the day before. This is helping people who are sick and elderly more than anyone else. The people who do something like what you described have not been informed correctly or disrespectful because they don’t want to follow the rule. Recently I have had to watch the time for this because of my health issues. I always try to make it to have breakfast 🍳 a few hours ahead. I thought you might like to know this information.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
Saint Athanasius as I said most Catholics. I didn’t say all Catholics. When I was a child all Catholics were supposed to be kind and giving to each other as well as to others. I would say they were not because I’ve seen many Catholics that were not kind to others and to me. So it depends on where you’re at and who they are.If they are breaking the fasting law then God is the one to know that and he will accommodate to what he judges. After all God knows more than I!
@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963
@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963 4 года назад
In the Orthodox Church we still keep the old fast. But I have a question; Why were Christians of the first century eating before the Eucharist?
@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963
@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963 4 года назад
@@damienparoski2033 Thank you so much brother. I must do some research too.
@burkardhanis
@burkardhanis 4 года назад
most people don't know this rule, let alone observe it, nor do they know the rules for Friday penance among many other things.....
@bridgetillingworth979
@bridgetillingworth979 Год назад
It was when I was growing up into the Catholic faith,why should it not be now ? What was then shove now ?”ok”
@panayiotis5431
@panayiotis5431 4 года назад
Why is the picture of Hippolytus an icon of Jacob
@stephenhoughton632
@stephenhoughton632 2 года назад
But I though communion was not to be celebrated afternoon except for the midnight mass of Christmas and the Vigil of Easter anyway. Granted I am just a protestant and may be wrong.
@Theringodair
@Theringodair 4 года назад
Us Muslims still do this. From dawn till dusk for a month. Expections are women on their periods the terminally ill.and very old.
@susanaswett6722
@susanaswett6722 Год назад
A friend of mine said she saw a person bring a starbucks in to mass
@hkk3656
@hkk3656 Год назад
Who cares
@MKFlynn
@MKFlynn 4 года назад
One debate I've always had with Catholics outside of my immediate family is over when to fast before Mass. The wording is "to abstain for at least one hour before holy communion," so I know many people who feel justified in eating up until about 15 minutes before the start of Mass and assume that they will receive Communion 45 minutes into the Mass. This has never made sense to me because Masses can vary in length depending on the length of the homily, if there's music, which version of the Eucharistic prayers are said, etc. Not only that, but no one actually brings food to eat in the middle of Mass anyway, so why should the majority of the Mass count toward the fast? Because of that, I begin my fast an hour before the start of Mass instead of an hour before when I think Communion might be. I don't usually say anything unless someone tries to get me to eat within that hour, and when I do people quickly tell me I'm wrong. What should I say in these situations? And was it actually okay that I got invited to a doughnut party for religion teachers immediately prior to a daily Mass?
@brightskysyl3913
@brightskysyl3913 4 года назад
by sick you meant physically sick, right? how about being sick because of psychological/emotional problems?
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
brightskysyl Being mentally ill is covered too. My brother Timothy is Down Syndrome and my boy Zachary is ADHD/Bipolar and they are exempt.
@josephsaltal2596
@josephsaltal2596 4 года назад
Is it 1 Hour before the exact time of Communion being given, or 1 Hour before the start of the Mass?
@MichaelTavares
@MichaelTavares 4 года назад
Joseph Saltal 1 hour before communion I believe
@joandsouza2971
@joandsouza2971 4 года назад
It's one hour before Mass not Communion
@BreakingInTheHabit
@BreakingInTheHabit 4 года назад
One hour before communion.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
Joseph Saltal Before communion
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 4 года назад
@@BreakingInTheHabit It should be one hour before mass. Most times you don't know when you will be receiving communion. By fasting an hour before mass you will be assured that you have fasted. Otherwise it's not really fasting. We need to go back to the traditions of the Church which made us fully Catholic. Stop trying to make it easy for the sheep.
@itsnando20
@itsnando20 3 года назад
Fast at least an hour because when you are hungry, you long for the Lord.
@totallyme1100
@totallyme1100 2 года назад
I fast before mass, but by accident i dont even do it intentionally lol
@walterroberts5694
@walterroberts5694 4 года назад
Could you do a video on the Novous Ordo missae bring "illicit" and "valid"? It IS a NEW Mass right?
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 4 года назад
We should push the clergy to only to the Traditional Latin Mass and get rid of the Novus Ordo Mass (since it's actually a protestant form of worship.
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 4 года назад
@@johnpglackin345 Thank you I am duly insulted (I am an Anglican)
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 4 года назад
@@johnking5174 You are welcome. But I have a friend that was a former Lutheran who converted to the Catholic Faith back in the late 50's. He was a faithful Lutheran and attended their Lutheran services every week. And he says that the Lutheran service is almost like the Novus Ordo mass that Catholics "worship" God. So what he is telling me Catholics are worshiping the Lutheran version of God instead of the Catholic version of God.
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 4 года назад
@@johnpglackin345 Do not confuse the Lutheran Church with the Church of England, the Lutheran Church is not Anglican.
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 4 года назад
@@johnking5174 Please join the Catholic Church.
@brentoneccles
@brentoneccles 4 года назад
Sick people can benefit from fasting, perhaps more than any other group. I say this as someone who has experienced illness and the help a lengthy fast (in my case up to or more than a week) can provide. Fasting is good for you, quite apart from the reverence it can show for our Lord.
@BreakingInTheHabit
@BreakingInTheHabit 4 года назад
Maybe they can... but they shouldn't be forced to in every situation.
@RianeBane
@RianeBane 4 года назад
That depends highly on what illness you suffer from, and shouldn't be undertaken without your doctor's approval. Since fasting deprives the body of nutrients, it can prolong or heighten the severity of temporary sicknesses, and can also cause problems with chronic illnesses. If it was helpful to you, then that's great, but your case is likely an exception to the rule.
@brentoneccles
@brentoneccles 4 года назад
RianeBane It most certainly does depend on the individual, I will agree with you on that. My case, however, is most certainly not an exception to any rule except perhaps that I have exceptional health challenges for a 29yo. In my case, I have a chronic illness known as Crohn’s disease. The clinical evidence is very clear for fastings benefits across a broad range and this can be verified with some further reading into this matter. To put it simply, fasting is good for you because once your body runs out of glucose stores (about 18hrs) your body starts converting your fat into energy and in this process your body does a lot of other ‘clean up’. I am being very simple here, but this is YT comments. There is a saying that I am not sure of the attribution: “People live on one quarter of what they eat, on the other three quarters lives their doctor.”
@brentoneccles
@brentoneccles 4 года назад
Breaking In The Habit Were they ever forced to? Can you make that case? Obedience and reverence has always been a choice, hasn’t it? I think we should choose greater expression and practice of reverence and actively encourage that in others.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 4 года назад
brentoneccles Well for instance you are not to fast if you are diabetic or hypoglycemic. You really are taking your health at risk if you do.
@SweejitOfficial
@SweejitOfficial 2 года назад
What about 1 Corinthians 11? This seems like y'all are putting unnecessary burdens on folk.
@MrEgyPete
@MrEgyPete 4 года назад
The Orthodox church still observes the midnight fast with the exception to the sick or permission from the priest. The video explained the challenges that some groups have with the fast but the Catholic solution seemed to be too extreme and disrespectful for the church tradition. Why remove the fast for the groups who had no problem with it? Just because it is hard? Well that’s the point. What I always admire about our Catholic brothers that they recognize problems and have ways to resolve but what I don’t like is that their solutions are always too extreme and relaxed which disregard the tradition. It is not a matter of sticking to the word of the law, but it is a matter that the benefit that law brings to the people when followed. I find the orthodox way is much more conservative to this.
@krdiaz8026
@krdiaz8026 4 года назад
Peter Mikhail Just because you don't have to doesn't mean you can't do it. Catholics can still choose to do this if they can. The Catholic Church needs to adopt her rules based on the circumstances. For example, in the Philippines, summer temperatures are insane. It's already 30 degrees C at 6am in the morning, and sometimes it never dips below that throughout the evening. Add to that the extreme humidity. It's not uncommon to wake up with damp sheets during the summers here. Not everyone has air conditioning since we are a developing country. To insist on the old rules would mean even the healthy people would suffer from dehydration. However, if you have airconditioning in your house, and your church is also air conditioned, which is the case in some wealthy parishes here, you can choose to do the strict fast from 12am. Likewise with the Lenten fast. Just because we are only required to fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday doesn't mean you can't fast throughout Lent. Again using the Philippines as an example, since Lent usually happens here during the summer, the humidity makes you tire easier and fasting daily would make you unable to do many of the daily manual chores. Again, since we are a developing country, most people don't have automatic appliances so daily chores are not that easy to do. Before global warming, maybe the old rule was easy to follow in the Philippines. Back in the 90s I remember that the hottest temps during summer was only 27C but certainly not today when it can reach a maximum of 45C in the middle of the day. If the pope insists on the old rule, he'd have 50% less Catholics after every summer, and I don't think martyrdom by dehydration is what God wants.
@MrEgyPete
@MrEgyPete 4 года назад
KR Diaz thanks for the reply. That’s a good point. I think that’s the philosophical difference between Orthodox and Catholics. Orthodox will keep the original rule for everyone to really try and work towards sacrificing your body toward spiritual gain the exception given to people as needed. This is coming from that people tend to follow the easier rule if they don’t have to. The Catholics seems to try to make it easy for everyone and leave it to people to work on achieving higher goals. In terms of practice, that made most Catholics don’t try to achieve the harder spiritual exercises. This is clear from the population now. By the way, I grew up in Egypt where temperatures are high year around. Everyone kept their fast before liturgy and kept the strict fast during lent (55 days). I know many many people take exception from Priest but this is always looked at as the exception and not the rule.
@krdiaz8026
@krdiaz8026 4 года назад
Peter Mikhail Ah, yes, Catholicism is more individualistic in that sense. You do what is best for you, while still following the general rule. Also, I don't know if it is humid in Egypt. I think desert climate is dry, not humid. It's really the humidity that makes the heat difficult, not the heat per se. It's also hot here all year round. December-January noon temp is about 30C but it is not humid during those months. It's the humidity of the summer that is brutal because sweat doesn't evaporate hence the body doesn't ever cool down unless you retreat to an airconditioned room. Otherwise you sweat profusely 24/7.
@MrEgyPete
@MrEgyPete 4 года назад
KR Diaz people usually don’t know what is best for them, they know what is more convenient and comfortable. Church is about the body of Christ and not the individual. I don’t think weather is a factor. The orthodox church is all over the world (you can visit one in your country) and they still follow the original fast. I have high respect to the Catholic church and of course I consider them part of the body of Christ but from experience on the ground, that individualistic philosophy has allowed many things that lead to people to be weaken spiritually and make them vulnerable to worldly comfort. God bless you.
@krdiaz8026
@krdiaz8026 4 года назад
Peter Mikhail The members of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines are mostly middle class who have relatively comfortable lives. Most Catholics here are from the poor classes. My take here is the RCC has such rules because we are supposed to be adults, (though I am not saying the Orthodox are not) and adults ought to have the virtue of prudence, and also how to conduct their lives. I think the problems in the RCC are mainly due to poor catechism, not relaxed rules. Many people don't know why they're supposed to fast, so when the rules are relaxed they rejoice, but those who have been catechized well, like me, don't rejoice, rather they make adjustments to fit their circumstances. For example, I fast every Friday even if I am not required to, because I know that I can do this and it won't affect my life. I do not need to go to a priest to ask for his advice, though of course there is nothing wrong with that. An adult ought not to require his parents' advice for every little thing. Of course, for the major things, like before marriage, we are required to go to the priest for spiritual advice, but otherwise not. Please understand I have nothing against the Orthodox and I think there is some merit in your ways, but please try to understand our ways in a deeper sense rather than on just the surface level.
@thomas-5417
@thomas-5417 4 года назад
Do Catholics believe that the Eucharist is Christ’s physical body or his spiritual body? Are we eating his flesh or his soul?
@kathycusumano2445
@kathycusumano2445 4 года назад
We receive the body blood soul and divinity of Jesus Christ as long as the species last about 10 -15 minutes.😊
@BreakingInTheHabit
@BreakingInTheHabit 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BBZPv_ImH9w.html
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 4 года назад
We are receiving His Flesh and Blood.
@rob7800
@rob7800 4 года назад
Boy that Catholic Church was sure burdensome, strict, and unreasonable before the 20th century.
@teodorosicat1120
@teodorosicat1120 4 года назад
Hello Father Casey, Jesus gave the church the authority just like in confession, they must use it for the goodness of the flock, who ever is in the authority. Lord Jesus love is sheep's and they follow him. Thanks!
@tonychamoun5035
@tonychamoun5035 4 года назад
Teodoro Sicat :First the ever is given Christ then in process of love sheep's BE-IN-G EVE"N LION even LIONESES...Grant u GOD from HIS PURITY.+AMEN+Love forever:live Forever+AMEN+
@nickkraw1
@nickkraw1 4 года назад
Going to daily mass, especially after work or school would be largely impossible with the old fasting rules.
@brightskysyl3913
@brightskysyl3913 4 года назад
12am is experienced for 24 separate hours around the whole world, so basically you fast more than 24 hours. lol jk
@robertlight5227
@robertlight5227 4 года назад
All this absurdity for a man/god they cannot even prove was a real person.
@robertlight5227
@robertlight5227 4 года назад
@@icxcnika2037 what is your evidence for Jesus ever exiting?
@rob7800
@rob7800 4 года назад
Boy that Catholic Church was sure burdensome, strict, and unreasonable before the 20th century.
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