Is Forza Horizon 5 WORSE Than Forza Horizon 4? 

This is not the most in-depth analysis...perhaps later on I will make one with a proper list comparing the two.

Fh4 felt like an improvement coming from fh3. We had one x enchantment, a new season system, more cars etc. horizon 5 just took all that and put a new map in its place

Personally I believe that the main thing in 4 that was better was the map. Because in 5 even though it has more diversity, the 4 map fealt more complete, with the main example being that 4 has WAY better dirt roads

In some ways I actually miss FH4 it felt less dead and I liked the weather better and the map more

I personally like 4 was better. I liked the map better, and the size did not matter because it was perfectly spaced to me.

Forza Horizon 4 Was my first Forza game and it is so nostalgic whenever I hear the opening music and some of the Block Party songs 😢❤❤ it was so good for me I had no idea fh3 was even better as for me this was the best racing game I’d played

i definitely agree that they are in realistic terms no better than each other, but for now i’m giving them the benefit of the doubt with some aspects because they are still working with the old engine. however, as soon as they get the new engine they better make some big changes

I like fh4 way more then fh5

It’s important to point this stuff out and where they truly are lacking in developmental ideas. They just better hope Test Drive doesn’t disrupt their whole market at this point. The repetitiveness is alarming at this point.

The one problem I have with a Forza fives weather, specifically talking about the sandstorms. When you go up to a sandstorm or close to it it looks really far away, but then when you go a little bit more forward, you are already in it, even though it looked like it was at least 100 feet away. Edit: I do understand that this is a very new thing for playground games, but when I saw that sand storms are going to be a Weather aspect of the game. I thought you would be able to drive right up to them and then go a little bit more forward and you’ll be in the storm not 100/ 50 feet away and then you’re in it when you drive forward.

I have said this previously but i say it again. The map has a lot of potential but developers has not taken the all out of it. All the main activities in the map has been focused in couple of areas. The rest of the map has just been left behind. There is a lot of unique places in the map but because there is nothing to do in those places no one is going to visit there. Shame really.

I started forza with fh2 and played fh3 which were both really fun, but at fh4 and 5 it seems like they had a goal but didn't put as much soul into them

I’ll tell you one think though I am so done with the festival Playlist every week, that’s it’s starting to feel like a chore… I’ve been bored of it mid horizon 4s life and I was unhappy when they brought it back in 5

The lack of gas stations restaurants grocery stores car washes airplanes in the skies etc on the map makes it feel empty on such a big map these things don't need to be usable but present to make it feel more alive

FH 1 to 3 was golden (specially Goliath of 3 wich was brilliant), Fh4 and 5 i kinda liked but.. i miss beating rivals and a focus on story, now we´re Hyper stars and that´s it, no focus, just grinding, nerfs left and right i avoid MP like plague except on trials where i play with randoms, since any of my friends list dropped FH4 or 5 a month after launch.

In some ways yes, in some ways no. FH5's map feels really lifeless and dull compared to FH4, but the driving roads themselves are a bit more enjoyable. The physics and audio are also improved over FH4, but the car list feels repetitive and unchanged. If you recall, FH4 didn't really hit its stride until new features like the Seasonal Playlist were introduced and breathed new life into the game. I think we might see FH5 go through a similar phase change later on that helps it come into its own a little more. I have low expectations, but still feel like the series is progressing forward... very slowly.

Everyone here is wrong, the correct answer is Midnight Club 3 is better.

The main thing i am missing from the older horizon games is the festival aspect. You could take the festival from horizon 5 and it wouldnt be a huge different game. In horizon 1 and 2 the festival was a massive aspect, now its just there

Personally, I feel more attached to fh4 because not only was that my first horizon, but also since I live in the UK, it's more relatable than FH5 and I get a lot more of the references first-hand etc. Despite this, I feel FH5 is still better in most ways (which matter). This may vary the more I play online races tho 😂

I think they coulda done more with Mexico in Forza 5 more cities , & of course we need more cars that we actually want.

I agree. The map needs more features and things to do- think of the fh3 construction site, shipwrecks, and wood farm. All these areas were great and provided playability but werent exactly specific or necessary locations for the game to work. They just added them and they became favourites for all fh3 players. We have 0 areas (excluding temples) like that in fh4 (and even then, only one of the temples has any real playability, and they are all VERY similar.)

1 year later and I still haven’t had a horizon arcade with more than 3 players…..

Forza Horizon 4 was and is still an amazing game. I love it.

With the gamepass mentality, that's why FH5 was.... kinda underwhelming.. (From a first timer playing FH5, Festival Playlist was aight, turn to boredom a lot)

I just starting playing Forza 4 winter of 2020/2021 and it was so incredible. I played 5 on its release day and I felt like something was missing as well. Then I realized that it wasn’t the game, it was me. I’m MUCH more partial to enjoying British culture than Mexican/desert culture. I lived in Arizona for a year and hated it. Once I realized that, 5 became an extension of 4 to me. Because I bounce from 4 to 5 a lot, I appreciate that they are super similar and I don’t have to remember how to play one or the other. I have cars in 4 that I get excited to drive and I have different cars in 5 that I get excited to drive. I honestly hope 6 feels the same as 4 and 5, just different scenery and slightly different cars.

FH5 map should have more modern parts because theres almost none of it, only the stadium and the far west side of the map

Forza 4 best horizon ever Edit: the main reason being the height variation made the map very fun to play games we made up; all playground areas, airfield, Edinburgh, windmill farm, and a few others I can't remember. Most of the time I spent in fh4 was messing around in the open world. The problem with fh5 is there isn't really an area that is as interesting as fh4. Edit2: also the menu in fh4 was way easier to get through

Fh5 slightly worse but I prefer the fh4 because actually much better experience than fh5 that already have

Fh5 feels so empty.

We had a perfect racing game that included features we are still asking for to this day. Test Drive Unlimited 2. The 2 detailed maps, atmosphere, progression and some other things made that game very memorable and I hope TDU Solar Crown can capture that and Turn 10 take notes as well.

Much of what I've seen in FH5 seems like it was a "Copy/Paste" situation. Even some of the cars still carry a UK license plate, instead of a Mexico plate.

Even now, I can't believe FH5 has released, but after 270 hours of experience, I really have the impression there is something missing, even in my 20th hour I had this impression.... WHAT IS IT !?

It's a difficult one for me because I started playing Forza from Forza Horizon 3, I like Horizon 3 because of how nostalgic it is, I Love Horizon 4 because its set in the UK and its main city is my capital city but I also like Horizon 5 because of its cars, customisation and the map to some degree.

There's much improvement in the basic structure of the game, from Horizon 3 to 4 to 5. Physics modeling, graphics, animations, and such. Map size and diversity, and the car roster can vary in quantity and quality. What I see suffering is the removal of features that we actually kindof liked, like custom championships, or any real sense of progression, or anything passing for an overarching story or purpose. I think the playlist has largely backfired too; Forzathon in Horizon 3 was a great excuse to go back into the game at least once a week, and seasonal championships in Horizon 4 was a novel idea at first. Bundling them together in the playlist was... fine, I guess. But now it's more like "ugh, I gotta go back and do the playlist." They're littered with duplicate cars I already have, and the one new McGuffin most weeks. And once I'm done with that, and unlocked the McGuffin i don't feel like doing anything else. The game seems to be figuring out how to unlock the McGuffin with as little work as possible, plus the one or two other items that are actually fun.

The only thing better in fh5 are the graphics and cars 💀 fh4 was more joyful 😔

Mexico is not the right choice for the new Horizon location. Simple as that.

I agree with you on the city and towns, the architecture in horizon 5 feels 3rd world level, they should've included more developed towns found in mexico. The only interesting parts about guanajuato were the large buildings, not the boxy houses, as for the towns, they were bland, as well as the lack of pedestrians on the sidewalks

Forza horizon 4 was more fun than 5 to me. i dont know to to put it into words, but forza horizon 5 feels very generic. FH4 had better music, its map was significantly better than FH5. and the DLCs were fun too.

I especially agree with the recycling of cars from previous titles, they need to stop that and put all cars from previous games in from launch.

There are many other big bugs that i hate like in the new RS7 window tint doesnt show up and also the Dodge Demon rear window. The Cadillac ATS is manual but in game the character shifts imaginary paddles.The Impreza with Varis kit doesnt shows backfire neither.

4 is way better than 5, there is no doing about that

FH4 felt better aesthetically, you could take beautiful diverse screenshots, however in FH5 all screenshots just kinda look the same

Fh5 is probably the worst one yet. It did absolutely nothing new for the series besides what, improved engine noise and a different map? Not to mention the story took a massive downgrade. We went from wristbands and cutscenes to building and leveling up the festival sites to essentially nothing. How can you reach the “hall of fame” and complete the story without doing a single big event?

I feel like Forza need to update the night sky since it seems empty and bare

I genuinely haven’t played in ages because its so hard to get the millions and millions required for the new cars i want and when i do get them they handle the same as everything else once modified

Fh5 is a ghost town

I don't know what I'd class as better but I'll always hop on fh4 first

60fps is a clear reason why 4 was better than 3. 30fps hurts your eyes compared to 60fps

The intro to fh4 is just AMAZING.

FH5 is all about bugs and glitches

i recently also went back to playing fh4 for a bit and man the nostalgia, also yes there is no where near as many bugs and glitches in fh4 then 5 the ui os overall way smoother and that's disappointing to see that they went backwards in that regard but the overall game itself i have to give it to fh5 as it's overall a better game because of the better graphics more realistic physics bigger map more cars and so on.

i agree it think the "ratio" is a big thing, honestly i like the size of fh4 map more, since as u said, i feel like the size is just like taking a smaller map, and just streching it out, not adding more things, but just making the distance that you have to drive longer. personally i like fh4 more, but that might be becouse it was my first horizon game, and i really loved it.

I would be content with less cars, but a more interesting map. I only drive about 50 cars anyways.

Why does it feel like everyone always says they like the game previous to the current in every franchise?

Horizon 3 was magical Horizon 4 improved on it Horizon 5 is an empty shell..

On another video I made a very long, but in-depth “Wishlist” for FH5 (and also FH6). It contained many cars not featured on FH5 that were in FH4, such as the Volkswagen I.D. R. In that comment, I had just recently gone back to playing FH4 a few months after FH5 was released, and I realised quite a few interesting things (if you can find the comment, please link it in the replies, but I can’t find it anymore) -Cars such as the Volkswagen ID R have disappeared in FH5 -The game ran WAY smoother, and rarely (if ever) dropped frames, even on a 6+ year old Xbox One S in FH4 -There was more of a city in FH4 -There was a cool spot in a concrete tube near a drag strip where you can do a wheelspeed glitch (it still works as of ~June 2022!) in FH4 -The overall experience felt less busy & more refined, from the higher (CONSISTENT) frames, to the evened-out font sizes, to even the more accurate speedometer needle! (FH4) And finally, I don’t know what it was about that game, but the cars were MUCH easier to drive in FH4 (even after the suspension update a few weeks ago)! *Keep in mind, I HAVE NEVER PLAYED ANY OF THE TITLES BEFORE FH4*

I keep going back to FH4. The atmosphere and use of color in that game is unmatched. Driving around during sunset while it transitions into nighttime always looks incredible, especially in winter. The seasons also gave it a lot more replayability than I intially expected. The only reason why I'm not playing it as much anymore is because it lacked proper customization in terms of aesthetics.

i had ton of online friends in fh4, we use to race together in teams but now none of us play together

i feel like FH5's biggest problem is the map. I love that they did work on the little things that people have talked about, car sounds, bodykits and other forms of customization, but its hard to enjoy it when you're in the desert. Mexico isnt a Minecraft seed.

Hey Eric. I seen something on FM7 and it was on the McClaren Senna. It's on the top of the dashboard where you can see a small screen the tells you what gear you are on, your speed and your revs. To see it you do need to be on Photo mode and I think its a good detail that Playground Games had put in and it is also in FH5. Just to say that it is not on the McClaren 720S. Just the Senna.

I cannot agree the games are even. Forza Horizon 5 is just a reskinned FH4. The credit has to go more towards FH4 as it did pretty much all of the stuff fh5 does and on a better map (FH5 map is soooo lifeless and bland)

For me FH4 is better because in FH5, I still have basically no traffic, and most of the races are repetative on the (mostly) same tracks over and over. 4 even looks better with lower graphics settings! Come on, PG!

The biggest problem in fh5 compared to fh4 is the way the ruined soo many car sounds which they got it right on fh4. E60m5, e92 m3, McLaren F1, hoonigannfiesta rally car, Honda's and a lot more. This was always a reason since I got fh5. The excitement died down and now I play it just to get the new cars mostly

I’m my opinion both forza games lack soul, the characters feel like robots, the cars aren’t as fun, and the only thing that has gotten better is the graphics

Bro, do you play forza horizon 4 and 5 in 4k 60 fps or 1440p etc... Which resolution and refresh rate?

The night in fh4 felt like real night but in fh5 looks like it is still day and also in fh4 there was snow in the whole map but in fh5 it only snows in the volcano

Yes, yes and all the yes's, its a bag of rubbish, its far too arcadey, complete rubbish and it bugs me that people are still putting out videos on it, we should be completely ignoring it so that they pull their finger out and don't keep trying to cash cow the franchise.

A friend of mine suggested just they just copied and pasted the code across from 4 to 5, referring to there being so many similar bugs and glitches in the latter title.

I'm mexican, I'm biased, I love the 4 but the 5 makes me cry, it's sad that there is so much hate, it makes my skin crawl see everything so well represented it's beautiful I play on a logitech g920 so i love it and the graphics and everything, music could be better lol, famous Mexican car is the TSURITO

i think it could just be some fatigue with the series. inevitably its gonna get harder to keep coming up with original content every few years and obtaining a roster of cars we havent seen before sounds expensive and time consuming. so perhaps smaller map size but every 6 months we get a new map in a different part of the world? that way you can have 6 months in japan with touge, japanese cars and culture. then maybe france or germany? maybe do somewhere like sweden/arctic circle? iceland with those crazy offroaders? this way the game feels entirely fresh every 6 months with new location specific quests and vehicles. one of the best dlc for me was the island in 4. obvs the drift road was ace but also the treasure chests to find and the feel of a different small island community. was the same vibes with blizzard mountain.. did a lot with a small space. with 5 i had been jumping on once a week to get the new cars. now i cant even be bothered to do that as i have enough money to buy anything i dont have. PG needs to win me back with something genuinely interesting for the next dlc, whatever an whenever that may be..

I think FH5 had quite a lot of bugs/problems when it came out 🤔. Cool once again Eric :)

I don’t like how in horizon 5 we can’t change the difficulty in seasonal championships which is annoying because I want to be able to put the drivatars to a higher level but it only lets me put them in highly skilled which makes it to easy

4:45 FH5 map is not 1.5 times larger than FH4 map. It is 1.5 times the size of FH4 map. So 50% increase in map size and NOT 150%. FH4 map being 71,46 km2 and FH5 map 107,19 km2 which is exactly 1.5 times the size of FH4 map.

Is there still any way to get FH3 on pc?

Fh4 because I know it is not the best game ever but the map, graphics felt like how britain really looked. Fh5 felt more like a downgrade although most features were improved. I prefer fh4 map bc although it lacked biomes it felt more fun while in fh5 you get an empty space. Fh4 just feels more alive than Fh5.

Last comment horizon 4 had my 3 favorite cars in real life , the mclaren 12c, aston martin one-77, and the kia stinger five has none of them .

For me it is no brainer. FH4 wins all the time against FH5. In FH4 I loved the map and the architecture of "historic Britain", plus the changing seasons were great and that's why I played it a lot. FH5 I play only to collect new cars, nothing else, I don't like the map, it is kind of empty and not very interesting, plus the changing seasons seems to me the same. Plus the car physics was better in FH4, but even better in FH3.

Personally I believe the difference between FH 3 and FH 4 is bigger than FH 4 and FH 5. I played more 4 and 5 than 3 and I got to say I like FH 4 more than the other 2.

I feel like FH5 is missing some core features from FH4, like main menu is just straight up ripped from FH3 and the night-time is considerably fast. Plus the game lacks some bodykits for some cars.

Forza 4 already was my favourite as soon as I saw a dodge charger R/T as a starter car. Anything with a dodge csr that I can instantly get is my favourite

Have an of topic question. How come some players sell multiple rare cars cheap for sniping in auction house? I see it often. Like one player sold pretty much 5 Super bee’s for 138k. Why? And how did they get so many

They could still incorporate some of those FM7 bodykits, some looks good.

I found a secret in the Renault Clio Williams. The temperature on the dashboard above the steering wheel changes

im thinkin abt getting either fh4 or 5 for my birthday on november 2md. which one should i get?

I would quite like a map that takes quite a while to drive through. That way there could be a more diverse map and an actual need for a train.

Devs don't care of quality or features. Quality is good enough: "nothing to do here..." I asked the support(reopened 7 months old ticket) when VRAM issue will be fixed. Answer killed me: "We do not have ETA for the VRAM issue". It follows the game from the start. Almost a year. Not only they did not fix it, the don't even know when they will. Answer is - never. I wish I liked fh5 more, but I don't think so. I'm not buying or preordering next Forza games if I do not see massive changes

I didn't bought FH5 because it was way expensive and after some time I realised I chose wisely not to buy a game that it's price doesn't represent the things that gamers receive from the game. And one thing that I hate about Forza Horizon generally speaking, is the lack of visual customisation. It's a 2021 game and you just can't exclude customisation variety especially in exhaust, bumpers, fenders, spoilers.

Fh5 map is bland and it’s crazy how we have a near identical car list to 4 but damn near all the cars don’t have spacer options… it starts with the little shit

the cars feel horrible offroad in fh5, they slide constantly and theyre slow. they nerfed pretty much every car too much, S1 is the new S2 in FH5

Few reasons I’m preferring the FH4 over 5, first off being the Italian cars, second is that UK just gives a stronger sense of a “heritage” than Mexico, I also prefer the way they do the seasons than FH5. In the end, once the game moves on to the next gen, I could find myself still go back to FH4 once in a while, but maybe not as much as FH5

To start, the games are still fun to play. TBH, it's not so much FH4 vs FH5, it's what I'm missing from FH3: the head-to-head payouts, the ability to create championships, and the story of being a boss from the start. Bringing the first two into FH5 would be pretty cool. And having the boss story in FH{next) would be sweet as well. As an aside, I could go either way on the seasons (both in the UK and in Mexico) as they don't seem to really change the driving experience much. I also agree with Ericship's critique of the towns, especially compared to the variety of cities and towns in FH3 and FH4. Again, all 3 versions I've got (FH3, FH4, and FH5) are fun.

I liked more fh4, I liked to just get in the game and run around the scenery, I thought it was beautiful. The fh5 didn't attract me that much, I enter the game only to play the playlist.

Now I’ve played 1000’s of hours on all Horizons, sim racing obsessed. I believe FH5 had sorted the vehicle sounds out etc & I love the car list and updates. But FH1 to FH4 had some soul. FH5 just feels a dead map with a cold feel. But I still love it a lot.

Hope they fix the sound for the new RS7 soon it decreases my interest for the game

I've gone back to FH4 also, FH5 has better car sound without doubt. The gameplay in 4 is as good as 5. FH5 seasons seem the same, only the reservoir being full or empty is the only change. I view them as equal but with different scenery

I think fh5 is better but if it weren't for the updated car sounds i wouldn't be so sure. The problem is with the map it just feels dead there are no houses outside the towns and the ones there is are old fashioned or rundown. Make a more modern map, with more towns maybe even 2 cities and a bit more modern architecture and then its a solid game

I’ve been perfecting FH4 a lot more recently. I jumped back on that and the atmosphere to Britain is better than Mexico to me. Also for what I do in FH5. I like it better in FH4. I do a lot of cruising around and speed physics in FH5 are very lacking.

I think it’s just empty. Hardly any trees, not many houses, and the devs are trying to make the game way too family friendly so it’s not really fun yo play anymore.

with one is better to start with? please reply

I've never played 4 but I just purchased this weekend while it was on sale. I'm close to finishing all the main items in 5 and I'm really just annoyed with the map/location. Mexico just isn't that great. It actually made me think of the new Crew game coming out and how it's set in Hawaii. Not good for weather variations.