Follow me: / soundlearn I graduated from Full Sail with a Bachelor's in Recording Arts. 12+ years later, I ask the question: Was it worth it? #fullsailuniversity #collegereview #musicproduction #audioengineer
I am a graduate of the Game Dev program 2010. Full Sail is not a scam. However, I think it is overpriced. And they could have more student support outside the classroom.
I graduated from the game design program 2021, most def a scam better to get your money out of a traditional CS degree. Learn game design from youtube theres plenty of content. I would say learn your coding online for free as well because were coming to a point where the paper of a degree doesnt hold much weight anyways but how you perform, hell you can watch Harvard Comp Science courses for free. Make small projects and fill your portfolio thats the best way to get a job. The game industry is cancer anyways your going to be underpaid or not ever going to be hired.
"Full Sail is a school where you will learn technical skills" this right here. Im an 07 Anim grad whos still in my chosen career. FS isnt a ticket to the front of the line, FS is a place to learn how to get to the front.
@@jonwinder6622damn a few people told me not to go there and like I’m kinda scared to go and might change my mind or something because I don’t come from a very rich family and I have a parent that goes fucking ballistic towards anything about money so I’m scared to go in debt. Finding a job wasn’t easy for me and I don’t get commission money 24/7. Plus when they called me they told me that it’s mostly 3D animation stuff they’re focus about. I really like 2D…
This is very accurate, I'm an online struggling student and have a dream of working on animation since middle school. And this school is so hard, but so worth it. The best montra I could give someone who would be starting is just have fun, work hard, and be proud of what you make, but know you can always do better.
I’m glad I came across this video. You basically explained a lot of our perspective of college/University in general. I’m attending FSU for. Business/Management & Entertainment for certification(diploma). The reason I chose this school is the material and familiarity I had in my previous school. But I will say college is NOT a scam but it’s mighty expensive for no reason, especially for certain programs and degrees. I hope anyone who comes across this keeps their mental health in order and pursue your goals(career or dreams) and fight against all odds.
Great video. One thing about Full Sail that is understated is how much you can learn by you, and all the people you hang out with, being in full immersion of that specialty for a few years. Class 8 hours a day and then you go hang out with friends and talk about what you did in class. Regardless if you learn some of these skills online on your own time, having those skills be all you talk about for two years has an obvious benefit. A decade later, I use what I learned there often; but ultimately you're going to get what you put into it.
Yeah, I'm in the Digital Cinematography Bachelor's Degree program @ FSU. My personal opinion is that it has honestly been everything I could've ever dreamed for. It has not only began to teach me the basic fundamentals of the things that I need to learn to use and work with, but it has provided me with all of the tools, software, and physical items that I need to get my own thing going, while succeeding in my courses. Full Sail to me is like any University. It offers the correct learning tools and information that you need to prosper in your chosen field, but you HAVE to put in the leg work or you'll be just like the other PLENTY of Americans that aren't using their degree for a better, more intriguing life, and now owe thousands of dollars in student loans. My advice, only go if this is something you TRULY want for yourself & be willing to put in the WORK. If this is you, I would highly recommend Full Sail Uni to anybody!
Just got off the phone with some administrators for the same program and came to this vid. Glad to hear you’re doing well and enjoyed it, gives me hope too.
That’s awesome to hear and congratulations 🎊🎉🍾🎈 for getting accepted into their program!I had been contemplating enrolling for the last two years and I finally decided to just do it! I know everyone’s experience is different but I’ve heard nothing but great things about the school. You can only find out yourself! Looking forward to starting the same program in January!
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@@Spawnofwitchesexactly what I was about to say. I just hung up the phone and decided to look for reviews on this program.
I am a full sail student earning my bachelor's in music business. Here's the thing it's not a scam the courses are no joke and the professors are diligent in holding you to deadlines and responsibilities and a code of ethics. They do give you the tools you need to succeed but it is up to you whether you apply them or not. A, Since I started it's been drilled into our heads internships, networking, mentors, These are things that will help you succeed and find a job after graduation. Just about any management or even office-held position within the music industry requires a bachelor's minimum these days and you're not going to get that teaching yourself online. l for one say not a scam and am very glad I chose them to do my schooling.
I think, personally, after spending about 10 years in the music scene and how it works and now I left that behind me and moving towards Computer Animation. It honestly depends on the person and what they have for discipline, focus, drive, and striving. I agree with what you said about the industry IS hard to get there high up. I'm optimistic about getting my Computer Animation bachelor's degree. I know that what I will be going up against will be tenfold to what I output. But to some people, they love that challenge, myself included.
In 2010 i had to go to a psych hospital because of bullying i had to endure in high school. None of my teachers were allowed to do anything about it because the bullies were kids of high ranking members of the PTA. And they hated the fact they couldn't help me when i needed it. So as an appology, they looked up what colleges i could do incredibly well in while my entire class was in in school suspension. When i came back i was given a stack of appology letters from my class, and a bunch of Full Sail university pamphlets and info. My first day back at school from the hospital was my teachers telling me how sorry they were and how they thought Full Sail could be the perfect school for a creative student like me. But i kept hearing that Full Sail is a scam and not worth the money spent on student loans and tuition. Watching videos like this helps reassure that the school, despite some marketing hiccups, is the school for me. I come from a family of creatives, my grandfather used to sculpt and edit videos, my uncle is a professional bronze and clay sculptor, a painter, and a gourmet chef. My aunt is a writer, and my cousin is going to school for a career in animation. As for me, i have a deviantart with a lot of hand drawn fanart. It's not amazing but people seem to really like my artstyle. Some calling it show accurate to an extant when it came to my brony related works. I want to get into the animation industry, to help bring a certain passion project that would require a certain company to admit their flagship mascot had been tied up in the basement while his Archrival has been ruining it's public image and contributing to the crap animators and writers and actors are going through which lead to the current strikes going on in LA, to bring to life. I was raised with the belief that no art is perfect and that there is always room for improvement. And i will admit i have an ego sometimes and can get overeager with my ideas. I have autism, ADHD, OCD, social anxiety, and PTSD so interacting and working together with others can be very hard for me. But i want to work to gain the confidence to overcome those hurdles while at the same time not turning into the next Butch Hartman or Thomas Astruc. And i think, despite the price, Full Sail can certainly help me. I will admit a lot of the physical activity may be taxing given 4 foot surgeries i have had over the last decade, and yet it only makes me want to prove myself more. I couldn't go to this school due to the price and my parents really did try their hardest to find ways to help pay for it only to be constantly turned down and denied because of it's unaccredited status. Given recent developments especially with the Strikes in LA, i think the creative industry needs as much support as possible. And giving Full Sail the credentials it needs to be taken seriously could be a good start...at least in my opinion.
Is Full Sail worth it... my son RP.., indicated that it was helpful.. he research it.. grants.. , after I pull my teeth to put 30k . Grandfather put another 20k.. its overpriced. Is college worth it. Yes and no. My father was jeweler. It's self learned in youtube . .. Is it worth it. He will be graduating in March.. .. yet .. now I put all this energy.. if you get a job.. after ... its CONNECTION .. thank goodness ... University Ceo are about PROFIT PROFIT !! That's why ....if u go to. , my my.. this is why u need to realize .. status title.. Fame leads to NOTHINGNESS. BUNCH OF SNOBS... WITH INSECURITY.. Downside your living.. ... 소주한 아들놈. , 장난.. 비참한인간들. , 저는 별소리 다든고 고생 햇써요. 아버지 감사해요. 어머님 감사해요. Yes thank your parents! Disable your child. My new system .. You better rake them leaves.. , .. pay back ! 50/50 Its not a gift Its ALOAN... !! ..😅😅 or all my assets go to charity !!
@@nancy234ful at the same time, this school works with professional grade equipment which has to constantly be maintained alongside having teachers trained on how to use the equipment. The price feels appropriate especially when its a hands on vocational school similar to BOCES up here in NY state. I unfortunately couldn't go to that due to my aforementioned mental breakdowns, and BOCES not wanting to be liable if i were to be bullied triggering yet another one. So i was forced to stick to traditional schooling for science and math credits throughout my Junior and senior years. But regardless. If i want to work for a company like Disney (when they get their crap together and give a crap about their animation department) its better to work with the equipment and programs that are common in the disney workplace. And as someone with ADHD and autism it is hard for me to focus and adjust to new ways of doing something. Especially working with the pen to paper method of art since i was in diapers. Having a teacher in the same room helping me out, giving me tips on how to improve, and what not is invaluable. And a lot simpler than trying to screenshare with them WHILE trying to do your work. At least in person they can point to the parts that can be worked on or tools you should try i don't know how to explain it. I understand colleges are needlessly expensive and put everyone in a lot of debt. But Full Sail feels like it has justifications for it's price especially for those like me who like the hands on learning experience and teachers/professors stopping by to help the students when needed. Yeah a lot of tech these days makes it easier to learn on your own or through youtube videos. But it feels...impersonal? Where as one on one or an inperson group makes it easier to understand for some people? I dunno. I guess i feel differently about the price of Full Sail and i haven't even gone. Its a lot of the repetitive courses in normal/community colleges that feel like they aren't worth it because of the strict adherence to the curriculum. That BS highschool book report nonsense you probably already did in High School only made to sound the smallest bit more complicated then it is for 2 years before switching to hands on experience...they want to bore students with 2 more years of highschool then don't let them graduate until after 6 yrs of highschool not 4.
@@jonwinder6622 ok...i am confused. Is the damned school accredited like BOCES is or not because the inconsistency everytime someone looks it up is starting to become lawsuit worthy. And i have enough mental health problems to justify such an admittedly petty lawsuit and a manipulative mother who uses my autism as a way to gaslight me and make me doubt my own memories. "I never said the school was unaccredited i said that they couldnt pay for the school since it was outta state" "i never told you to get this job, you went and applied with no coersion from me whatsoever" "So you believe your therapist when she said that Full Sail wasn't accredited and not your own mother?" "You said the school was accredited and that the VA and student loans couldnt pay for it because it was out of state" "i said that they couldn't pay for it because the school was unaccredited. You need to let me into your appointments so i can set your counselor and therapist straight!" And this is the woman who tells me to keep the fact she was/is i dont know at this point guns that were outlawed in the state for my grandfather a secret. I honestly don't give two shits if i am gonna get in trouble i could use a vacation on the tax payers dime. And people wonder why i am always ready to get a lawyer involved. Karens are one thing they are just idiots. i am being driven nuts by my own mother. And just want consistency in my damned life...but no i have to dance a tango on the tightrope of sanity at this point.
I looked at Full Sail before after I graduated from Purdue in 2004. I did Interior Architecture (haven't worked a day in that industry) and we had a starting class of 130 and I graduated with 13. The "great filter" came at then end of the 1st semester of the 2nd year. I am now looking at Full Sail for my daughter to potentially go to.
Thank you so much for this, so far I've really only heard one opinion about Full Sail, and it was generally really positive! However, I'm aware of how expensive their tuition is alongside a few other factors. This video really helped me rule out what aspects I should take into account, and instead of jumping straight into it, taking things into consideration first is very important. 💖
Full Sail has improved however they are NOT accredited like S.F. State university or LSU, or any Regionally accredited school. No Credits WILL Transfer to a State University!!! That Is A TRUE Fact! If you work hard and succeed at the training you will have a good shot at a career! There is no auto connection to the network.
Everything you’re saying is 100% accurate. I graduated in December 2022 from the film program and so many kids who complained about the school had no technical ambition and rather told me straight up “i like movies so I figured I’d come here and work on them.” They had no idea what a grind these type of career fields are. One girl didn’t even like movies, she just enjoyed music videos. That being said, If you look hard, there are some really talented and driven kids there who are great connections to have.
I am considering the digital cinematography bachelors for 30k scholarship fasfa but I know nothing yet of college and I don’t know if this is best decision I should step into
I really enjoyed your video ! I am currently in my junior year and i am in business entertainment degree program as an online student and will be graduating in June 2024.
@@makenzimorgan6274 Hello Makenzimorgan That's awesome that you are thinking about pursuing this degree!! Honestly, it's a fun and very informative learning experience! It's a lot of work but if it's something that you love and are interested in it will become second nature to you. Also, every individual's experience will be different with this degree so I can't tell you specifically how you will like it. I wish you luck with your decision whatever you decide I will be happy for you and root for your success!!!
I am currently in the process of enrolling for the game development program. I must say, yes, it looks very expensive. However, the person I am in contact with regarding enrollment has been very helpful. She has been helping me find scholarships to apply to and is working to see how many classes I can skip due to having an associate's degree in general studies (which I did to skip having to do fundamentals in whatever bachelor's I chose to move toward). So while their classes don't transfer, other classes transfer there. So, if you want to attend there, but want to pay less, maybe see about getting fundamentals like writing, and algebra II and such out of the way at a different school. Maybe a community college. If you can, take calculus at a community college before entering if you want to enter a math related field. I am drawn to this place due to the fact that they 1) are very upfront about the costs, the other colleges I've been to show credit per hour then have lots of other fees and such you only learned about when you got the bill. Which... while I expected the other fees... was a bit of a bummer. 2) The fast pace, I find that if I'm forced to constantly work on something to succeed, I do WAY better. My best semester at college so far was when I had a full 28 credit hour schedule, plus a part time job, plus a writing club, plus marching band. I was so busy but for some reason, I did so much better. When I have time to goof off... I goof off too much. So I'd much rather be staring at my screen like: next next next. 3) I have talked with people who graduated from there for game development that work for game companies and while maybe the degree itself doesn't solidify entry to one of the companies, it does give them opportunities to actually present themselves to the companies and show off what they can do if they play their cards right. They used the college to leverage their ability to communicate with them. I don't think right now that I'm particularly... special. Heck, I kind of have a lower self esteem than ever at this point in my life. I messed up so many times. I already have 20k in loans. Haha... ha. All because I could never decide what I wanted to do with myself. Taking classes... more classes... and never choosing my final degree. But I want to try, and in an environment that will force me to work hard. I think that Full Sail will do that. I have seen many bad reviews of full sail. But the good ones kind of spell it out a little like this video: you have to work for it. You can't expect success to be handed to you. It feels like several of the bad reviews were saying: "it's impossible". Or one of them had such bad writing you couldn't really tell what they were mad about. So yeah. That's my take on it and why I'm planning on attending in a month's time.
@@titan_uprising I had problems with a little of my financial aid, so I had to wait a bit. I wasn't able to do my taxes for 2021 for various reasons. To avoid as many loans as I can, I'm waiting to be able to use my taxes from 2022. I'll let you know how it goes. How has your experience been? Out of curiosity.
im having thoughts of getting an easy job that doesn't require much training certification or school and maybe seeing Europe, gonna miss my family - I feel further along the way in songwriting and music producing - dam a decade to pay off loans - gon look up coursera
I got my Master's of Art in Media Design from Full Sail in 2016. Was a great program, I met a lot of life long friends, and I used my degree to get an amazing job in graphic design.
Does Full Sail have a dedicated Mixing / Mastering Engineering course? I only see a recording arts program, which I assume is general studio recording knowledge. Great video by the way.
If things haven’t changed much, then yes, it’s just recording arts which is what I did. To be fair, they cover plenty of mixing and mastering techniques. They have dedicated classes for both.
Im very nervous I start classes for Game Development next month but the more I research the more I see people not recommending it so I get very nervous. I keep thinking is this worth it or should i fund a better school?
How much time do you spend on assignments outside of class? My daughter is interested in one of the recording degrees…undecided which one yet. Since most of those classes look to be hands on, I’m wondering since you are in class most of the day, how much time do you spend after classes are over on a daily or weekly basis getting assignments done or studying? I’m trying to decide if she would be better doing the accelerated program or one that is slightly longer.
It’s hard to say, but I feel like I was mostly in class. I found myself in classes as late as 3am at times. Generally, it feels like my only day off was Sunday. We had classes on Saturdays, albeit a shorter schedule. There was a running joke that nobody had time for college activities so it was not a party school by any means.
if you have to take out loans, do not do it. Former student here. Your daughter will receive a much better and traditional education at a community college. I say that from experience. More than likely that community college will have the same type ofprogram for way less money, plus the quality of the education is a lot better at a community college. I was naive when i signed up, at 19 i went on the tour and was hooked. Halfway through my degree is when i realized i got played, they are incredibily good at preying on peoples creative passions for over priced profit. My credits didnt transfer anywhere, i had to do my 4 years all over again. I now work a six figure job andd never used a single skill i been taught from full sail once in my career.
@@jonwinder6622 Thank you for your comment. I just got off the phone w/admissions earlier today; and I was really contemplating whether I should attend the Music Production online, or just go back to the traditional Community college in my town. Your comments have help me decide. I think I'll just do the Audio Engineering at my local community college and then go from there...♥
@@shellyglover3640 You made the right choice. I actually took some classes at a community college before attending Full Sail, and I'd say for Audio Engineering the classes I took at a community college I felt they were just as good if not better. It's incredibly tempting, but your wallet and credit will thank you later. Plus your credits will transfer if you ever want to go to a 4 year University. If you have any additional questions let me know. Keep in mind also the job industry for Audio Engineers is very very narrow. If you do end up getting lucky with a job, its highly unlikely you'd eventually be making 6 figures if that mattered to you as well.
Very similar experience for me. Attended for the Simulation degree, a sister program to the Game Development degree. Started with 120 some odd folks, ended up graduating with me and 2 others. Most people got stuck when the harder programming classes started, then over the months more and more people either switched degrees, dropped out, or got held back because they didn't get a passing grade. I will say that I graduated in no short part due to the fact that when I knew I was going to fail on my own, I would relentlessly pursue the teachers and lab instructors for more help and guidance, and for literally 99% of the teachers there they were awesome and we're more than willing to help me out with scheduled 1-1 sessions, general questions over discord or email, and just staying late to help me burn through and assignment. Its a tough learning experience and you have to be careful on deciding on any college, I spent a year in community college trying out different classes before I went to full Sail since I didn't want to feel like I wasted my parents time and money sending me to some Purdue type college where I realize 2 years in that I hate my degree.
Good on you for powering through. I really feel like if you can push through til the end and take it seriously, you will be able to make a living in your respective field.
Glad I came across this video, so my situation is more that I’ve already gotten a BA in marketing and have a career in that field, but I absolutely love music and have taken up production as a hobby recently (no I haven’t spent much money on it). My goal is to be able to produce, mix, master, release, and maybe even perform my own crafted music. Whether I can make a living from it or not, it’s still something I want to do because it’s fun and I love it…so I’ve been considering going to production school. Would anyone in here say FS is worth it even if at worst case scenario I just do music as a hobby?
This I think applies to any Arts College in general. Full Sail is better in my opinion because at least they market technical skills that are more directly applicable than fine arts. There are some people in either who get hired, make a living, some even go famous, but it’s a ruthless job market and your dreams will be crushed if you don’t have the talent.
I’m looking into going to FS to get into the music industry and to make my own songs now I know that I won’t automatically get to get the opportunity of getting sign until later but I want to know will full sail help me know how to write those songs and give me guidance on to how to how to achieve that goal because I’ve always tried self learning but it’s gotten me nowhere because I don’t know where to start
I would say Full Sail is not a good place to learn songwriting. Go to local shows, meet other musicians and songwriters. Get in a room with them and start learning from your peers. It’s free and you’ll learn plenty.
Hello fellow alumni! Design grad from 2008 class here - not any more of a scam than any college tbh. Its what you make of it. We had a small class too (30ish) and i think half graduated and like 3 of us had jobs right out of school, myself included but most people gave up or dropped out because of World of Warcraft / got jobs at Petco. Would I do it again? No way. But I did learn a lot and have been working in the industry since 2008 so its whatever.
I'm in it now and I'm looking to drop out and have you starting off with BS classes that have absolutely nothing to do with anything and don't provide any new information. I'm literally making spreadsheets and work study schedules for the past 3 months it's ridiculous. I want my money back. Plus for what my end goal is cyber security.... The industry cares more about passing exams for certificates way more than any degree. So I think I'll be dropping out today actually
You can go to this school and there’s no guarantee you will find success when you graduate. You can find success even without going to school and if you have talent. Musicians and singers put videos on RU-vid and found success. Get your work out there. Don’t look to schools for your success but know that life is an evil b word that rhymes with witch.
Currently enrolled in FS for RA bachelor program if you ever feel like speaking on this topic relating to the school or wanted somebodies perspective on it who is currently enrolled in like an interview format, to help people who are on the fence about committing or just some talking points, let me know, and id be happy to share my thoughts. I've been debating starting my own youtube and vlogging the process a bit while interviewing other students across different programs to get more authentic info out of people who are currently going through and some alumni who are a few years removed, freshly graduated, and others who have a similar experience being out for 10+ years. Overall I think what soundlearn was saying is accurate-ish but the shortest answer in which he made apparent is, if your question is will the piece of paper at the end get me a great paying job doing exactly what you want the answer is no, which really shouldnt be surprsing especially when your talking about creative arts.
72k Wow, I was a student and then a teacher in the UK of a degree in Music Production for 20 years. Scam = no, work after = no unless you work your ass off or are lucky. I have taken kids who had failed and left school at 16 and are now making top 10 records and songs (living their best life) but I have seen lots of kids doing nothing with the degree in music. I myself went into teaching music, I earn 120k USD which for a music teacher is amazing but it took me a long time and a move out of the UK to do that. If you are a student who goes into this area, use the the colleges equipment as much as you can. sleep there, live it. Don't think you will get a job by coasting by. Or if you are lazy become a teacher like me hahaha
i just started the music production program so im kinda worried after seeing your opinion on future career opportunities haha. i do hope to work in the music industry after completing my degree but it is kind of discouraging to hear about the chances of that happening after graduation
Well I did the same so! I do not know what to advise really, do your research and do what you love but just know you need to work 10000000x harder than the next student as reliability, knowledge and hardwork will pay off (oh and be nice to people)@@jasminex6661 good luck
I also went to Full Sail and I had the time of my life while I was there of course because. But to be honest with you I don't think Full Sail in and of itself is a scam I learned everything that I went there to learn and I do it well now. I think the problem is actually the college system versus The Working World in general not so much just a particular school it's a mess out there and the worst part is we all come out of this experience with a mortgage level debt but no house period and there is absolutely nothing we can do to get out from under it.
I'm currently about 75% through the audio production bachelor's. This is my second time in college; because of life circumstances I needed a career change and a useful skill. I'm treating FS like a trade school to learn how to work with software and equipment, not to become the next Kanye or anything. I've already gotten opportunities to work FOH and mix/mastering in my current industry (performance arts). I think if you approach a college degree with realistic expectations of what work in that industry looks like, you are so much more likely to succeed. Best thing I ever did was reach out to people doing those jobs and asking questions
I graduated from the game design program 2021, most def a scam better to get your money out of a traditional CS degree. Learn game design from youtube theres plenty of content. I would say learn your coding online for free as well because were coming to a point where the paper of a degree doesnt hold much weight anyways but how you perform, hell you can watch Harvard Comp Science courses for free. Make small projects and fill your portfolio thats the best way to get a job. The game industry is cancer anyways your going to be underpaid or not ever going to be hired.
@@screenwriterkanzo pretty much, only thing that matters is that you learn the material and can apply it in practice. That being said some professions need physical practice such as doctors or surgeons because they need access to cadavers. But in my opinion I believe that if dedicated enough there are plenty of online courses that are cheaper for people to learn software dev or game design. College is a money pit and ive never been asked to show my degree to hiring managers only tech tests.
@Nothingbutlead I ended up changing degrees. The instructors and lab support don't do much to help and when you ask questions some of them get aggravated about it. I do not recommend that degree.
@Nothingbutlead yea it is, but I saw it as it isn't my calling, but I'm currently taking my Associates for I.T., I'm going for a degree in Cyber Security. I will say this tho, don't let my experience turn you away. I still love this school, and I still take classes there. Just make sure it's truly what you want to do. Those game dev classes are HARD! I cannot express that enough and if you fail a class you have to pay close to $800 to retake it! You gotta want it bro!
i got a random ad for full sail that was basically saying "if you like video games, you can just play video games as your job as a game tester" and i was like ok signed up, got phone calls from full sail university and then i was like "imma do my research" so no im not doin that shit
Full sail is a college and like all colleges time effort are the only long term goals they will help achieve. We have to push after the fact once we’ve learned the skills. Remember once your out of college congratulation! Your a “GreenHorn” and there’s nothing wrong with that
That’s oversimplifying it a bit, but essentially, yes. Keep your priorities straight and put in the work. You have to truly be passionate about whatever you’re studying. It won’t feel like school if you’re truly connecting with it.
Since this video was last made the average costs is about $90,000....the program my child was interested in we were quoted $98,000. ...why pay that and come out making $40 to 50 thousand dollars per year mean while a certified nurse anesthesiologist program is about $80,000 and that high end and a new grad CRNA comeS out realistically making $150,000 per year ...full sail costs makes no sense for what the annual income a new grad can make.... reality is your first gig will not be on the next big Marvel movie or producing the next album for Taylor swift....do some make it big ..of course but they are far and few in-between and it takes decades to get there....oh when you tour give a fake cell number because they will hammer you with daily phone calls about nothing using high pressure sales tactics to force students to enroll....yes its a scam!!!
The basic answer: • If you want to plunge yourself insurmountable student debt • If you take your work seriously and don’t fck around. • If you have a plan to get hired before graduation Provided you get a entry level job: You will be able to to pay back the insurmountable student debt + have barely any money left over for food, shelter and clothing. The Harsh Reality: I’ve seen students attend this school, watch RU-vid, mess around in Lab, and now work at Best Buy. ( they still have the loan debt, which they will never pay off…until death) Choose wisely
I'm 51 , a truck driver and have been since 95 ...I don't want to retire a truck driver. That being said I've been going the DIY path for a few years now learning music theory, composition as in songwriting through pat pattison books , RU-vid and a group I attend for free. Which don't review my songs. I've been learning how to arrange a song on FL Studio , I started last year and still haven't produced a complete song but I have written songs just from prompts and ideas but as far as what I want it to sound like, I haven't found my sound. I like country , rock, southern rock and blues , but like you said, getting the drum groove to sound right it's just a basic pattern kick two kick three and four. Anyway I thought I wanted to be a songwriter souly but I don't live in Nashville, I live in Florida and my grandbabies are here. I've been looking into sync , production cause I'm kinda all over the place. I definitely want to get into the industry and work where my mind and heart is. I love music and I'm not getting any younger. My wife thinks I'm crazy but backs me, or I should say trusts me but she's scared All that being said I talked to Full Sail today just to see what it would take to get my bachelor's degree in music production and Randal said it would take two years to complete a 4 year degree all online cause I still have to work and started me on FAFSA pending . So if I can get help then looks like I will be attending. Seems kinda scary though with what your saying. I don't make that much money now as a truck driver, 40k a year and to have to repay 70k don't sound right. I don't want money to be an issue, especially if it's something I love to do and a chance to meet top professionals to prove myself of course. If anything I've learned in 51 years, anything worth having is more than just dipping your toe in the water, it's swimming out to where your feet barely touch the sand and catch that next wave coming in. I've always let fear keep me back from this one thing cause I'm painfully shy and now a door opens, and may be a expensive door but still a door, I gotta walk through. It's not how you get there but just get there. Anyway thx for your wisdom and thoughts
Im 52 and looking into starting at FS too. But I am not so clear as to what I want to study as you are. It is S.C.A.R.Y.! But I'm only doing a certificate because I dont have the time to put in on a Bachelors. So I wish you well! I personally think you are going to kill it because you have put work into the genre of what you want to do, and you know you want it. Best wishes!
went there for game dev...got a job with a large company, got laid off due to cutbacks, still have student debt, didnt learn anything i couldnt have gotten from a community college, they just try to make you woke at full sail
I think getting those niche degrees are bad. But going for like a computer science degree, for example I got a degree in the mobile development program. And I’m making about 170K now, started out 70K 6 years ago. So I’d say it’s a fair deal. The program is a little over priced
