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Is Genuine Multiple Personality Disorder an Actual Thing? Or Just a Hollywood Invention for Movies? 

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@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut 2 года назад
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@steveholland1163
@steveholland1163 2 года назад
Most uncomfortable underwhere i have ever wore
@robert2754
@robert2754 2 года назад
The average personality for a woman is 30 & 8 for men
@robert2754
@robert2754 2 года назад
I lived with someone with d.i.d. & EMDR is the best way to help someone with it because it fixes PTSD
@chillcannongames5758
@chillcannongames5758 2 года назад
I cant buy these as i am to fucking poor. I bought some hanes cheap version of this and it sucks as the my balls slip out every time i sit down causing me to readjust every tjme i stand
@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board
@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board 2 года назад
Hello i am a diagnosed schizophrenic with dissociative personality disorder. I have to say it's different for everyone no one who doesn't experience it can understand, it's not so much(at least for me) different personalities. It's like parts of my mind go to sleep for long periods of time and others come to the front. It can be years or hours but when it happens there's nothing to do but try to be happy and keep calm. Anyway love all your channels sir D
@dagtheger8993
@dagtheger8993 2 года назад
Maybe they should look at people with multiple youtube channel disorder. Imagine if someone had channels on engineering projects, biographies, history, things they found out, or whatever their top tenz are:) I do really enjoy your videos... and the beard oil.
@thedethrocker8858
@thedethrocker8858 2 года назад
Sounds like a legit fucking maniac 😅😅
@brecor9106
@brecor9106 2 года назад
You forgot the channel on murderers lol
@ECWBabe
@ECWBabe 2 года назад
@@brecor9106 which one ;) .
@juliebeers1960
@juliebeers1960 2 года назад
Casual Criminalist!
@KrytoRift
@KrytoRift 2 года назад
Hahahahaha!!!
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 2 года назад
Of course it exists. Simon alone has Danny, Callum, Katy, Jen, and Sam. The only way he can run 90 RU-vid channels.
@ShabbyTabernacle
@ShabbyTabernacle 2 года назад
Damn, That's hilarious.
@paulluce2557
@paulluce2557 2 года назад
There is only one answer.. There are Multiple Simon Whistlers.....
@Hromovlad1
@Hromovlad1 2 года назад
Don't forget Peter
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 2 года назад
Those are clones.
@jamesalder8628
@jamesalder8628 2 года назад
Lekicool- If he could clone himself, I'm sure he would have at least one of them have hair. Ha
@richardparker7157
@richardparker7157 2 года назад
The common pattern here seems to be "abuse." Either in the home or by the attending psychiatrist. We all present different 'faces' to the world at different times, in different circumstances, we allow different facets of ourselves to be seen. I wonder if what happens here is that this standard human approach to the world is driven to an extreme form by the extreme circumstances in which an abused person finds themself? In which case, it can't really be thought of as part of standard neurodiversity, but a psychological 'injury' that has happened to the person. Very, very grey area. How some people treat their children never ceases to amaze me.
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
you're on the right track. as infants it's theorized we ask for our needs by using "identity states". because we don't have enough life experience yet we don't have personality traits, but we have needs, and each of those needs is its own state. kinda like the sims, lol. they should meld together and develop into not just "hungry" but "i like these foods and dislike these ones" as the child grows up. the idea is that we don't fuse those states and instead block them off with amnesia because they have conflicting understanding of the world. for instance, an abusive mother might never comfort the infant but usually feeds it. the dissonance of "need met" vs "need not met" between them causes a rift and these sections of thought grow up clashing with each other in world view. since the brain learns "oh, this is an easy way to compartmentalize what we can't process" it becomes a coping mechanism which can be replicated throughout our lives.
@MoriguTheDead
@MoriguTheDead 2 года назад
Childhood abuse is a common factor in most serial killers lives. It's far every killer though, Ted Bundy was one glaring exception. There's a link to juvenile crime too. It's hard to imagine what society would be like if kids weren't abused.
@VincentGonzalezVeg
@VincentGonzalezVeg 2 года назад
I had a really bad breakup at one point & had to feel the full emotion in parts Like Anger, sadness, etc Also I was prescribed Folcalin aka Dexmethylphenidate in elementary school & trans so it feels like there's someone not me people keep talking about This is the birth name, it's too awesome to change So I was Generally expressing identity discomfort At one point I've ever dreamed of freedom
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 2 года назад
Never researched adrenochrome I assume.....
@amberly0317
@amberly0317 2 года назад
Abuse is such a forming thing for mental health in children. The more obvious ones are depression, anxiety, PTSD, but of course we have heard of it with DID, but I also did some research into schizophrenia onset and it seems to occur from childhood abuse as well (I was a service coordinator in a rehab and was genuinely curious in how some clients who were diagnosed were this had this diagnosis potentially come about if not present from a young age)
@amandamccallum1657
@amandamccallum1657 2 года назад
There is a very interesting case from Australia where a woman with DID was able to bring her abuser to court and testify against him.
@nono-gw7qm
@nono-gw7qm 2 года назад
How can I find out more about this? What is she called?
@amys9417
@amys9417 2 года назад
@@nono-gw7qm Her name is Jeni Haynes, and there is a video about her on RU-vid by 60 minutes Australia. Her story is fascinating, and there is actually physical evidence backing up the abuse she suffered. (FYI, the abuse is EXTREMELY graphic and utterly horrible to hear about, so be forewarned). I'm skeptical about the existence of DID normally, but Jeni is the one, true case that I believe 100%. I highly recommend looking into her case if DID interests you.
@bishoukun
@bishoukun 2 года назад
Indeed! We can't imagine how terrifying that whole ordeal must have been for that system, particularly with littles involved. It must have taken a lot of coordination and support, and we're super happy that they were able to get justice!
@bishoukun
@bishoukun 2 года назад
@@amys9417 We're sorry to hear you're skeptical. Is there are particular reason, such as bad role-models (aka assholes who faked) or harmful people IRL? Jeni and her system are an interesting example, but they're also an example of what *not* to expect; DID and OSDD systems are by nature meant to be hidden in most cases, and often the host won't even be aware of the system. Being out and open as a system like we are is extremely rare. (I don't mean being open and inclusive in online text-based forums, but when voice and face are involved, such as IRL or in videos.) We're the odd ones out in that case, and we can name one youtube-based role model who is a horrific example of how to be an abusive group of assholes who will take advantage of other systems and singlets. We won't, because we don't want their system getting any attention, but we get what it can be like. Multiplicity & Me is a great resource, though, and has some videos that really helped us discuss with our host's girlfriend what it can be like to have an internal conversation/conflict.
@unstoppablewildflower
@unstoppablewildflower 2 года назад
She’s an incredible woman. It took true strength to turn around and prosecute her father the way she did. Incredible. Inspiring for others like myself with DID.
@Berengier817
@Berengier817 2 года назад
My wife has disassociated amnesia, it is seriously difficult to deal with sometimes. I literally have to have her write things down when we have large disagreements because it triggers from stress. Once we were talking in the kitchen and she never realized I left and took out the garbage. i came back in and we kept talking and she asked when I would take out the trash. She had been missing several minutes of her memory. She even put a new trash bag in the trash can and didn't realize it
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 2 года назад
my now ex gf is schizophrenic, i have a carers cert and i've known her about 7 years but one of the earliest experiences i had of her illness was one day chatting about a work project (she is into media) and the tennis was on tv, after a few minutes of chatting the tv must've distracted her and the ladies tennis set her off talking about how helicopters were broadcasting what underwear she was wearing, and how you could go to the shops and buy equipement for spying on her underwear, she went on and on like this for about an hour when her phone rang, she picked it up, had a totally normal conversation with a girlfriend fo hers about kids and dress making, put the phone down and launched back into her rant about spies, for around four hours.... i never saw any evidence of DID but she certainly acted like some parts of her experience weren't in touch with others.
@333Eriana
@333Eriana 2 года назад
in response to Berengler - imagine being her. i try to remember to write notes , but some are too young to write - and then theres the problem of where is that note.
@toomanyopinions8353
@toomanyopinions8353 2 года назад
Just because more people are getting diagnosed doesn’t mean it isn’t real. It means there’s more awareness of it and people who previously went undiagnosed got diagnosed.
@toomanyopinions8353
@toomanyopinions8353 2 года назад
@@the_rachel_sam you realize that could just be because they found out it was even possible, and sought out diagnosis when they found out it existed, right?
@teamcybr8375
@teamcybr8375 2 года назад
Especially with a disorder that naturally is designed to hide itself *even from the person with it* A lot of systems would go their whole lives without realizing what they were before awareness got much higher.
@EKDupre
@EKDupre Год назад
And more people on earth
@ghostthelizard
@ghostthelizard 11 месяцев назад
Its also save to assume that some people who had DID were misdiagnosed with something like schizophrenia if they even did get diagnosed at all. From what i learned, most cases of DID are also very subtle so somebody could live with it without anybody ever noticing. Maybe the patient did but never had the need to talk about it plus mental disorders weren't exactly seen in the same light as today. Heck even today they are quite stigmatized and doctors are arguing whether DID is actually real, so it makes sense you wouldnt really talk about your mental health fifty years ago
@kitsunekierein7253
@kitsunekierein7253 2 года назад
I used to have DID. I suffered full spectrum abuse as a child. Growing up, I developed a set of personalities or characters that I would sometimes shift into in situations that scared me. There was a great deal of backstory to the four major personalities. Three were men and one was a woman. When going into the characters, I would full on black out and would wake up after the stressor was dealt with. It took a long time to reunify myself. I'm not sure if that is exactly what was going on with me, but the symptoms are almost identical. My own mind was unaware of the actions or words of the other aspects of myself, but according to those who witnessed the other aspects all confirmed that they each, while being separate person's, all were aware of and used my own memories and knew everything I knew. It took a long time to make myself whole again, but learning about this stuff immediately made me think of that time in my life.
@natsune09
@natsune09 2 года назад
I took a couple of psychology classes in school (Criminal Justice major), and something that I always thought about was the scientific nature of psychology. It relies a lot on people telling the truth and how similar people are. With most medicine, you can test something and get a result that the individual can't control (for the most part). You can test for diabetes, AIDS, Covid 19, and so on. There is chemistry at work, or the presence or absence of something that can be determined. With psychology, it relies almost entirely on the person telling you the truth (Unless there is a genetic or chemical imbalance causing the issue). Also, people just aren't the same. When I came back from Iraq, part of "in processing" for coming back was quickly talking to someone about any possible mental issues. People can lie, people can easily process what went on during that year, people can also can't handle it, some people think they can but end up with problems years later. There is no black and white test to determine what a person will do/react. People are just too different.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 2 года назад
Psychology is a lot more quantitative than that, and psychological research relies on much more than just people "telling the truth"
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
that's silly though, because psychology is not solely patient reporting. DID is documented via fMRI imaging and many mental health conditions are proven to exist by neuroscientists working with psychologists. it's naive to think psychology can be boiled down to just what someone tells you
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 2 года назад
Psychology as a field of study is a sham, that's knowledge in said field stems from torture, experimentation, medical malpractice, hypocrisy, and lies...... Carl Jung considered it "brainwashing", if I have the correct word there.
@natsune09
@natsune09 2 года назад
@@christheghostwriter Noticed how I said, "It relies a lot on people telling the truth" with the key word being ,"alot."
@natsune09
@natsune09 2 года назад
@@tamoyed Noticed how I said, "It relies a lot on people telling the truth" with the key word being ,"alot." I never said, "solely"
@glenngriffon8032
@glenngriffon8032 2 года назад
The social contagion thing also happened after The Truman Show came out with people thinking they were on hidden cameras 24/7 and their lives being broadcasted to an audience somewhere.
@dagtheger8993
@dagtheger8993 2 года назад
That one appears to be partly responsible for the recent rise of the flat earth movement. Probably others too.
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 2 года назад
I’m seeing a similar rise in the amount of people coming out as “transgender”. Not saying actual trans people do not exist as I’m friends with one, but a lot, A LOT, of people that claim to be strike me as super depressed.
@BlazeMakesGames
@BlazeMakesGames 2 года назад
@@NathanCassidy721 I mean a lot of trans people are depressed because they suffer from gender dysphoria and they feel uncomfortable in their own bodies 24/7 the more it goes on. I imagine the reason why more trans people have come out in recent years is because such dysphorias are more recognized these days in the same way that autism rates have gone up over the last few decades because we’ve expanded the definition of what is considered to be on that spectrum.
@GredelsRage
@GredelsRage 2 года назад
Well, people ARE on camera almost 24/7 now.
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 2 года назад
@@BlazeMakesGames That often happens with medical diagnoses. People see their symptoms described for the first time and they find out indeed they have this "new" mental illness when before all they got was a shrug or a wrong diagnosis and wrong treatment. I remember ADHD went through that several decades ago when many people looked with suspicion at so many overactive children being so diagnosed, and these people said all these kids needed was a good spanking. 😮
@Rhanwen
@Rhanwen 2 года назад
From someone who just found out, at the age of 40, that they have DID, thank you for making this. It is an intense and frightening experience to try and understand from this side of the topic as well. Not only is there a lot of debate and denial externally in media and by professions, but also internally. No one wants to suddenly start having CPTSD symptoms & flashbacks while at the same time questioning your sanity as you realize your internal dialogue is multiple voices with their own opinions, emotions, wants, and needs. It was a downward mental spiral that didn't seem to have an end. Now it is a rollercoaster. Hopefully with treatment, it will become a peaceful stroll. Important points: DID is a trauma response. The majority being repeated trauma during childhood with the child lacking the support of a comforting, supportive & loving guardian figure in their life. DID is meant to be covert, not just to the abuser & not just to other people, most importantly to the person with DID. The mind creates alternate personalities, and amnesia between them, for self-preservation. Each DID mind has developed unique systems to adapt and handle daily life based on the needs of that person and those around them, as well as what that person needed to be to best handle abusive and traumatic situations. They are true chameleons. With most people who have DID, you would never know.
@EnyalienMini
@EnyalienMini 2 года назад
And I think that is what most people don't understand - the "you never know". The alters develop to "be" the host in life... Esp when young, the entire goal is keep host safe and make everyone in daily life think he/she is who is fronting. Learning, at 38, that there was an actual diagnosis for what my life had been was one of the most jarring experiences I consciously had. Working through, for the last decade+ the why and what... I don't have words. It took a few years to come to terms with, and many therapy sessions. It continues to affect my life, and probably always will. I have, however, learned to (generally) appreciate the alters. I probably wouldn't be alive, or sane if I was, without them. The flashback slivers BEFORE I knew of them were nearly enough to break me at times.
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 2 года назад
That's crap. You're faking it.
@Rhanwen
@Rhanwen 2 года назад
@@EnyalienMini Thank you for commenting. It's an amazing feeling to have someone understand. I went through one of those breaking moments earlier this year, and still cycle close to them trying to make it be ANYTHING else. How can you have flashbacks to events you don't remember? How can you go your whole life not knowing you have very little memory of the majority of your own life? Is it possible to have conversations with yourself having different view points, beliefs, emotions and in different voices without DID? It's mainly the implications of what it means to have DID. Terrible things happened, for a long time, that I don't know happened. My flashbacks are just emotions, color, no real memories. So it has to be something else, right? The denial spiral. I understand what you are saying, Tina. It's awful. Thank you again.
@Dr.Fluffles
@Dr.Fluffles 2 года назад
@@Rhanwen If it's of any help, from my own discussions with various therapists and psychologists, the answer to the "Is it possible to have conversations with yourself having different view points, beliefs, emotions and in different voices without DID?" question is yes, it's just apparent to some degree that they all are actually "you," or projected ideas of yourself and others , and sometimes the "you" vs projection idea can get muddied and have negative psych effects of its own. Different people have different levels of awareness of it, along with the strength of that inner voice in general. Personally, I'm working on my own stuff with Depression and OCD now, but taking control and awareness of my internal monologues can be helpful to work out conflicted feelings in myself.
@Rhanwen
@Rhanwen 2 года назад
@@Dr.Fluffles That is helpful. It never feels like me in those situations. I'm hoping that while working with my psychologist another diagnosis will be given. It's the underlying reason behind DID that keeps me from truly accepting the diagnosis.
@designlady1954
@designlady1954 2 года назад
Being shot at as punishment as an 8 year old, beaten relentlessly as a child, sexually abused as early as 2 , I was diagnosed with DID in my late 20's. It's a horrible way to live. Even I didn't believe the diagnosis until I saw myself on video my therapist took.
@Jynxedlove
@Jynxedlove 2 года назад
I have known a few people with multiple personalities. I have known a few more who were clearly faking. However my dog recognizes my current friend's switches, and will even growl at only one of their personalities, while being the biggest mush the moment another one of them comes out. If anything could convince me that there is complete legitimacy to this, it is how drastically differently my service dog reacts to each of their personalities.
@lornarettig3215
@lornarettig3215 2 года назад
That‘s really interesting; I agree with you that this makes me believe that there is something legitimate in this. Doggies have no reason to make this up!
@CLKagmi23
@CLKagmi23 2 года назад
I don't have DID or any other major psychiatric disorder, but one thing that's been interesting to me is how often people seem to think that folks with any kind of neurodivergent experience must be faking it. A friend of mine admitted to me a few years back that he'd just been assuming I was lying about my creative process to seem special because my creative process was too unusual for him to comprehend - until I taught him to actually use the same technique himself, which apparently must have triggered some kind of experience in his brain that he hadn't had before. Then he believed me and had to be taught how to use the new experience he was having because he was freaked out by it. Brains are weird.
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen 2 года назад
@@lornarettig3215 "Doggies have no reason to make this up!" As much as I'd like to agree with you, that's not exactly how this works. Dogs are very trained on reading our behavior. If you're scared, your dog will copy your behavior and be scared too for example. While the dog might not be making anything up, one could be involuntarily projecting one's fears onto the dog, making it growl at said person.
@ROBYNMARKOW
@ROBYNMARKOW 2 года назад
I 've always thought of DID as a defense/coping mechanism.
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
it is, that's exactly it. just a complicated version of PTSD.
@ROBYNMARKOW
@ROBYNMARKOW 2 года назад
@@tamoyed I read about a woman who had about 80 personalities. I dk how she even managed to function as a human being..
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
@@ROBYNMARKOW well, it's simultaneously harder and easier than you'd think honestly. you grow up used to it so while it's difficult, it's also natural to you. over time treatment makes it easier because there's less amnesia :)
@ROBYNMARKOW
@ROBYNMARKOW 2 года назад
@@tamoyed I guess so..Btw, the book is called "When Rabbit Howls" by Shirley Chase & it was a v. difficult, depressing read but fascinating since it was written by the DID'er( for want of a better term) herself. Like the other two women mentioned in this video,Chase was extremely sexually & physically abused as a child ( which seems to be a trope among DID, in books & movies anyway ) Chase says she developed a large cast of personalities of both genders( awa as animals since her stepfather,who was her abuser, was a farmer) She worked w/a pyschatrist but unlike the other two popular books about DID never wanted to "integrate" her personalities. I'll look her up to see if she ever eventually did.. 👍
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
@@ROBYNMARKOW it's not a "trope" it's just how we end up with a lack of early integration of identity states as children.. lol. choosing not to fuse is sort of common, but all systems integrate. integration just means that there's some level of communication or sharing of information, which almost always improves over time
@shannonmcstormy5021
@shannonmcstormy5021 2 года назад
One of the many problems with mental health is that, at least in the US, it uses the medical model. In the medical model, theoretically, you can look in the microscope, see the organism causing the infection or use some other medical imaging such as x-ray to see the medical malady, for example a broken bone. But the medical model doesn't always work very well for medicine. For example, it can be useful to instead see the human body as an eco system. The lab test reveals an infection so the doctor prescribes an antibiotic. However, antibiotics can subsequently cause an imbalance in GI gut bacteria and/or cause yeast infections in women. D.I.D. as it is conceptualized in the DSM-5 does exist. But like all mental health issues, the severity exists on a continuum rather than being a discrete yes/no situation. Children are frequently trapped in abusive situations and one of the most effective defenses is splintering off various parts of the child's personality to the point where the abusive experiences are effectively forgotten. As with all health issues, including mental health issues, there are genetic risk/protection factors and environmental factors. You can have a situation with horrific routine abuse where the child reaches adulthood without major issues (though the more abuse, the greater the odds of bad outcomes). You can also have a situation where there is profound genetic risk mixed with what might be objectively seen from the outside as (relatively) "minor" neglect and invalidation that leads to profound mental health issues, possibly including D.I.D. Dissociation can be seen in people after a severe car accident, or witnessing a violent assault, the dissociation simply as a function of understandable "shock." This can radically affect memory including making memories of the event completely inaccessible or the memories can be wildly inaccurate, in part or completely. Fiction, whether movies or books, is habitually attracted to the most extreme of examples, the most lurid, the most disturbing. Then it takes these real life examples and uses "literary license" to exaggerate them to make them even more dramatic. These then become the examples people bring up and professionals comment upon. In the light of day, without the advanced and specialized education, training and experience of working with patients/clients with abuse histories that resulted in some measure of dissociation, the examples of the most extreme cases can seem patently ridiculous, the patient or client clearly faking. (That "insanity" is potentially a legal defense further confuses the issue as criminals try and pretend to be crazy (or crazier than they are) as a legal strategy to avoid accountability.) Unfortunately, whether movie, criminal defendant, or criminal defense lawyer, little thought appears to be given to the possible damage their portrayal may cause to real people with this often pejoratively-considered malady, increasing these patient's suffering by encouraging incredulity and denial of their experience. As a doctoral-level therapist and Clinical supervisor, I can share that D.I.D. is a very real mental health phenomenon, one frequently misunderstood and unfairly maligned, (even by other mental health professionals). Like other potentially serious, but fairly rare mental health issues, D.I.D. is best diagnosed and treated by those with specialized training and education. While I specialized in treating clients with multiple co-occurring chronic serious mental health issues, I do not consider D.I.D. to be in my wheelhouse. I know enough to enable me sufficient awareness and knowledge to refer to a mental health professional who IS qualified to investigate this as a possible diagnosis, and help treat clients should they have it. .
@tenshimoon
@tenshimoon 2 года назад
Thank you for your advocacy. As someone who has a lot of experience with people who have D.I.D. (a best friend of over a decade, other friends, etc), I hate how their trauma, experiences, their very existence are so vehemently opposed and invalidated even by other professionals - even though almost always those people haven't even really spent any significant amount of time around those with DID & OSDD. And as someone who has mental health diagnosis myself (common mood disorders & neurodivergence), I'm just so damn tired of all the stigma about mental health in general
@kakumee
@kakumee Год назад
Thank you both for sharing your knowledge and insights!!
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 2 года назад
"They used the name 'Eve White' to protect her identity. (No pause, not even to breathe in) Her real name was..." Jiminy Christmas, Fact Boi
@nancypine9952
@nancypine9952 2 года назад
Christine Sizemore wrote a book about her experiences under her real name, so it's not as though this was a secret. It's been openly acknowledged for decades.
@TheArgusPlexus
@TheArgusPlexus 2 года назад
Repressed memories are real to a point. I had a few. It's not that I didn't remember that those things happened to me. Some part of me knew. My mind chose to ignore it for so long that the memory literally started getting overwritten by new ones. I chose to forget. When I finally remembered I had a feeling of "how the hell did I forget about that"
@dividebyzero1000
@dividebyzero1000 2 года назад
Sorry you went through that. Memory is complicated for sure... Never really liked that term- people hear it, then immediately make too many assumptions. My experience was that after a particularly violent assault at age 12, I was just sort of walking around stunned, unable to process it, experiencing truly unbearable levels of anguish. After a few days I sort of figured out that if I just didn't think about it, I could sort of function. Then it sort of became like a hot stove at the periphery of my awareness- I was aware that something that hurt was there, but also knew not to touch it. Then at some point I just wasn't aware of it at all anymore. At the same time that was happening, there were pieces of it getting blocked, and not by my conscious choice. For a period of time, I could remember what happened, but not who did it. Remembering the betrayal was almost worse than the assault itself. For full disclosure, and duh, obviously, my understanding and recollection of how it all happened came back with all the memories around age 30... I certainly didn't remember how the process of blocking the memories worked during the 20 year period where they were mostly blocked. But this is how I now remember it happening.
@jaymevosburgh3660
@jaymevosburgh3660 2 года назад
My aunt was diagnosed with D I.D. back in the 90's. And growing up seeing her become totally different people with their own personalities is very strange and confusing. One was a guy that smoked and was rather aggressive which was very different from her "normal" behavior. But a very real condition. Most likely brought on by childhood trauma.
@TheHeadincharge
@TheHeadincharge 2 года назад
It’s no doubt real, the question that’s really up for debate is what the cause is as it seems that knowledge of the disorder greatly increases the amount it is seen, whereas we don’t see this same trend with disorders like schizophrenia or other kinds of dissociative disorders. DID does not appear to occur “naturally” very often called, although it certainly exists if you’re merely classifying it by outward representations.
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
@@TheHeadincharge truly, i think the reason we see higher rates of awareness and diagnosis when there's more media and social attention on it is the same as for every other mental health condition. people are out there living with it and just don't know until it's pointed out that there's a reason they live like that. i didn't know why i had so many weird ass symptoms and when i was diagnosed it all finally made sense.
@flayrekapperz7862
@flayrekapperz7862 2 года назад
It's as real as someone thinking they're actually jesus and behaving in consequence. DID/MPD isn't a magic switch in someone brain or whatever...
@LongToad
@LongToad 2 года назад
@@TheHeadincharge I feel the same. I know it's real but I don't think it's a natural occurrence. I think it's kind of like a known "venue" for coping with the added benefit of alleviating any grief/guilt associated with the associated outbursts. I don't think it's necessarily a conscious decision but it does feel like once people are aware it opens them more to the possibility of it happening. -I doubt it's the same thing but I feel like maybe I can understand it. I used to express myself a lot as a kid through my favorite stuffed animals. I did it way more than a normal kid, like I had whole personalities based on each toy and I'd carry them with me everywhere. Through them I could say and do things that I normally would never say or do and it felt like it wasn't me saying it. It helped me a lot to have a way to cope and express myself and I assume since I didn't have a very hard life I didn't need to continue that behavior into adulthood.
@CraftyVegan
@CraftyVegan 2 года назад
@@MotherRuss1a it’s not about “strong enough”. “Strong enough” borders on victim blaming. For her to still be alive is amazing. My mom also has DID and after hearing what she went through (and knowing what I went through from my father and my brain not surviving by compartmentalising myself) it was enough to know that she was alive and was able to be self aware enough to break the cycle. She wasn’t a perfect mother, and she and I no longer talk because she’s made some pretty horrible choices lately, but her condition isn’t a sign of weakness on her part. It’s a sign of shittiness in adults in her life that she was supposed to be able to trust and be protected by and they destroyed her mentally, emotionally, and physically. TL;DR These people who end up with DID aren’t weak, they were just dealt an extremely shitty hand and they handled it as best as they could.
@JackBWatkins
@JackBWatkins 2 года назад
I wonder if you could do a video on the other DID Disorder; Digital Internet Duplicity Disorder. There is a RU-vidr that has multiple channels with different personalities. Rather than each personality going by a different identity, they all go by Simon. Even more concerning is we regularly see a new identity split off and start a new channel. This man needs help.
@johnmassey1016
@johnmassey1016 2 года назад
😄
@cheaterman49
@cheaterman49 2 года назад
BusinessBlaze tho
@RosheenQuynh
@RosheenQuynh 2 года назад
🤣
@imyourmaster77
@imyourmaster77 2 года назад
Funny but I wonder if the are people out there with delusions of power or paralel identity online. Like a condition that makes you think youre someone else online
@JackBWatkins
@JackBWatkins 2 года назад
@@imyourmaster77 we could call it: “Do you know who I am,” syndrome.
@angeladeluna
@angeladeluna 2 года назад
My mom has this. It's very real. I can count away least 5 distinct personalities that I recognize. Her partner says there are 23. Two are small children. She has been severely abused throughout her life, first by her mother, then by strangers and partners.
@DamiesEvilTwin
@DamiesEvilTwin 2 года назад
As someone who had a friend with DID, who was part of that multiplicity community, they told me very distinctly that it is a disorder caused by trauma for the most part of people. The multiplicity community is, ironically, multi-faceted itself with yes, some arguing that it's not something that needs treatment, to those very adamant that a lot of people are faking. So I feel it's kind of misleading in itself to say that a community says x thing when it actually is very hotly debated in the community. That said, as someone who has autism, uh, neurodivergence doesn't mean non-disabling or that it shouldn't have diagnostic criteria or treatment methods. Neurodivergence may in its simplest terms mean different-brained but really it means a brain that functions different from what it's "supposed" to, does in fact include things like depression and schizophrenia which very much are disorders and detrimental. And I've literally never heard anyone say that left-handedness is neurodivergence. Where in the world did you hear that? There's debates on whether traumatic injury to the brain counts and if so to what extent, but I've never once heard any discussion about being left-handed, other than when people were forced to be right-handed and it fucked up their brain functioning. Neurodivergence is just a more friendly term for all the confusing and blurred-line terms we have to call people whose brains work differently, including dysfunctionally.
@bishoukun
@bishoukun 2 года назад
THIISSSS. We're in the middle of a battle for SSI disability right now because our neurodivergencies and mental illnesses are very much disabling. (Our body is also disabled, but the govt likes to tell us that it's not even though we use a flipping wheelchair.) And yeah, there is way too much sys-course, and we hate it. We don't really understand why there are so many oversimplified and overcomplicated arguments when there is really not much to argue about. Some systems need treatment and what treatment they need is specific to them; we need treatment for the CPTSD and such, but not for plurality itself, for example. Some systems aren't DID dx-able because they're functional dissociative systems. (We also think it's extremely exclusive to demand people get dxd when that can be very damaging for many and others literally can't access it.) Most of us are traumagenic, but also all of the research we have is from the teeeeeeny tiny percentage of systems who are aware of and forward with their plurality; most systems are hidden. We can't thus claim that systems can only be traumagenic without also claiming the 1-9% represents the whole 100%. That's akin to saying everyone with autism, say you and us, all have the exact same presentation of symptoms. Which obviously isn't the case.
@joylox
@joylox 2 года назад
Yes, I'm neurodivergent, and some things are fine, some things I like, and other things can be a problem, like for me, I have dyscalculia and ADHD, and I get lost all the time, and have poor depth perception. It can be very stressful, and part of the reason why I don't have my full driver's license. There's a lot of debate in the ADHD community about if medication should be used and when, but some people, including myself, find it helps a lot in ways that therapy alone can't. It's important to note that just because something is part of who you are, doesn't mean things can't get better, and at the same time, be okay with the fact that not everything can or should be cured, as that could be more traumatic. As far as I know, the goal of the neurodiversity movement is to say that we exist and don't need to be cured or victims of eugenics. It's like hair texture, no one way of being in inherently better, but some need more care than others, or are told are to change how they naturally are to fit in with one standard or ideal.
@semaj_5022
@semaj_5022 2 года назад
Yeah, left handedness seems to be sort of an evolutionary quirk more than any type of neuro-divergent phenomenon. I've got adhd and asd diagnoses(the latter of which I'm pretty sure was a misdiagnosis after the last 2 decades of advancements in psychology since.my diagnosis, but I digress) and I'm left handed. Being a lefty is the least divergent thing about me. Lol but yeah, neuro-divergent and neuro-typical are just easy shorthand devices for categorizing and simplifying conversation about these kinds of disorders and people who live with them. I will say that I went to school with a dude with DID who was, as far as anyone could tell, very much not faking it. He was a pretty chill guy, but kind of reserves with a bit of a drug problem. Sometimes though, he was much more peppy and outgoing and didnt touch pills or even smoke, and on rare occasion he became just as unhinged as his father was(there's the abuse). I spent a nerve-racking few hours one night talking him down after he locked my friend's gf's pregnant sister in her van with him and armed himself with a butcher knife. For some reason he would only let me talk to him, he'd just get even more agitated when someone else tried. I know how dramatically people with BPD can shift when their "switch is flipped," so to speak. This was not that. This dude with a knife was a completely different person than the guy I went to school with, they just happened to share the same body and face. Thankfully I was able to talk him down and nobody got hurt, just a bit traumatized on the part of the poor girl who was a badly received comment away from being stabbed. I'm sure most people with DID are not aggressive and violent like that, and this is just an anecdote, but the experience(and others with the same guy) were enough to convince me that this disorder is, at least in some cases, completely legitimate.
@soupncsoupy
@soupncsoupy 2 года назад
@@bishoukun you really do need help.
@CLKagmi23
@CLKagmi23 2 года назад
I'm glad to hear there is disagreement within the multiplicity community. Unfortunately I know someone with DID who had some bad experiences in which she felt that some members of that community were discouraging her from seeking treatment for the severe trauma that caused her symptoms based on the idea that each of her personalities had a right of personhood to exist and that she only *believed* her symptoms were causing problems for her because society had told her so. Those folks are not giving the community a great reputation, unfortunately.
@GiantPetRat
@GiantPetRat 2 года назад
I happen to be friends with a young woman who was recently identified as having DID. She had indeed suffered significant, extensive trauma as a child and had at first attributed her strange lapses in memory to that. Only in the last few months has she realized that she has about 12 different alters- although some "come out" more often than others, so there are a couple of them she doesn't know much about yet. She also has a child alter who's 5, which seems to be a trend among folks with this condition. For the most part, all of the alters know of each other and are generally on good terms (thank goodness for her!). The main downside to her having DID lies in her memory blips- in particular, when, say, her 5-year-old takes over and suddenly has basically all the unlimited access to junk food a kindergardner could ever aspire to getting their hands on (incidentally, when I first met her and she wasn't yet aware of her diagnosis, she claimed that she rarely felt hungry and often forgot to eat, which I had found odd given that, although she had been forced into a highly sedentary lifestyle as a child, she is indeed very overweight). She has also stated that it can be exhausting trying to keep track of her alters and still be a productive adult. Regardless, there's nothing about her that would strike you as crazy, and in fact, although she's admitted to have shifted alters in my presence on more than one occasion, I usually don't notice unless she announces it, apart from the fact that she becomes spacey for a few seconds and doesn't respond. Given all she's had to contend with, for the most part her disorder doesn't seem to be as big as a hurdle as, say, anxiety is for many people her age (myself included- in many ways she's much more competent and level-headed than I was at 23). And honestly, to come to the conclusion that lapses in memory aren't really a thing just strikes me as ludicrous, as surely there have been reports of people who suffered trauma blocking out certain instances without having ever seen a therapist.
@FlameUser64
@FlameUser64 2 года назад
@destrierofdark_
@destrierofdark_ 2 года назад
@@FlameUser64 Ditto. Though it's only really two "voices" and then unique speech patterns to each of us. You'll know who you're talking to sometimes within only a few sentences based on the words you pick, like "oh it's X?" "how could you tell?" "nobody else uses these five words you just said" And this happens entirely subconsciously. Those words just happen completely automatically.
@philtimmons722
@philtimmons722 2 года назад
The severe mood / persona shifts (or sometimes called schemas) within Borderline Personality Disorder can look and respond like "Multiple Personality."
@FirstnameLastname-cx6go
@FirstnameLastname-cx6go 2 года назад
Except mine are not mood shifts.
@ghostthelizard
@ghostthelizard 11 месяцев назад
Not entirely false but also just because thats the case doesnt mean DID patients are actually BPD patients. Like not everybody with BPD dissociates or experiences the amnesia people with DID have. Also BPD persona shifts arent really gonna have like a whole different past which however in DID is possible as some alters have like memories of an alternative past that isnt exactly real but they perceive it as such
@Chris-hx3om
@Chris-hx3om 2 года назад
"The transition between the 3 often being signaled by a splitting headache" I see what you did there. Very good, very subtle Mr Whistler!
@CatsMeowPaw
@CatsMeowPaw 2 года назад
I really wish people would stop thinking schizophrenia is multiple personality disorder. It almost never is.
@theviewer6889
@theviewer6889 2 года назад
It never is. Do some people have both? Yes. But they aren't the same thing. It's like blonde hair and brown eyes, you can have both at the same time, you can have one, or you can have neither, but the two aren't the same thing.
@SimonJackson13
@SimonJackson13 Год назад
Yes, but what does your other personality think?
@ChopBassMan
@ChopBassMan 2 года назад
Diagnostic ambiguity has plagued the psychiatric community as long as its been around. The most recent conflict in terminology that I'm aware of is - psychopathy, sociopathy, and antisocial personality disorder. They are often used interchangeably and no absolute concensus has been achieved yet although antisocial personality disorder is the more common these days (having been listed in the DSM-V, the diagnostic manual used by psychiatrists and psychologists)
@theviewer6889
@theviewer6889 2 года назад
The issue with psychopath, sociopath, and antisocial personality disorder being used interchangeably is that the first two come with a lot of baggage. People will here psycho/sociopath and their mind will snap to a murderer, they'll think the person in question is inherently evil, and that there is nothing good about the person in question. People here antisocial personality disorder and they'll realise it's a medical condition since it's got the 'disorder' part in it. Use ASPD cause it helps to reduce the stigma around the condition.
@richardparker7157
@richardparker7157 2 года назад
A psychiatrist I know always tells me that she tries to shy away from personality disorders in her practice; the scope for ambiguity is so great. She would acknowledge what you say about diagnostic ambiguity.
@catm9431
@catm9431 2 года назад
sociopathy is just another term for ASPD. Psychopathy is meant to be similar but with a few differences. Even though it's a medical condition, their diagnosis criteria gander very little sympathy for the individual who has it. A lot of people who have this diagnosis are usually in prison and take no interest in recovering since they feel no remorse for what they do. They never get therapy willingly either. I don't automatically think murderers, though I think most murderers would have to have some level of ASPD to be capable of what they do, a lot of murders are followed with remorse and the people who tend to do them were emotionally charged. To be honest, I associate them more with things like fraud. So there we have it.
@katrionaverity9128
@katrionaverity9128 2 года назад
My medical terminology textbook calls both sociopathy and psychopathy antisocial personality disorders. And makes a distinction between the two.
@ChopBassMan
@ChopBassMan 2 года назад
@@katrionaverity9128 could you elaborate what the differences are? To my knowledge the most common differentiation is that psychopathy is considered to be more genetically oriented and that psychopaths are more likely to have no empathy for the people that they do damage to, and sociopathy is considered to be more of a learned behavior strategy and also the sociopath usually has some ability to feel empathy for the people that they do damage to. Neither one of these definitions are actually considered to be valid symptomatic or complete, and antisocial personality disorder is the main disorder agreed upon by the psychiatric community at large.
@genreofstubby
@genreofstubby 2 года назад
i have MPD. i believe DID and MPD are two different things. Think HIV before AIDS sort of thing. when you are in the abuse, you dissociate a lot. blacking out, going away, disappearing, outer body experience, whatever term you want to use, then when you begin therapy and start the process of communication between everyone inside, dealing with each person's issues.... you become MPD. a working unit. its scary as hell when you are in the DID section. you feel like youre going crazy. you dont remember things you just said. you zoom in and out. its like dreaming but you dont know if you are awake or not. the horrors one suffers that forces your mind to want to survive and in order to do so you must split away from that time, is too much. its too much for anyone to endure. and the brain knows it. so instead of focusing on just being a single person, the mind has to be so many people, because life goes on even if you are being horrifically abused and if you dont act "normal" you will get even worse abuse. so you need school person, the people who will take on the abuse, the perfect daughter, the happy person, the entertainer person... and on and on... and as long as the abuse continues, and the need for certain things are required, the more you will split. the last split i had was the night before my 25th bday. i was drugged and raped in my own home by a so called friend. it was weird to know exactly what was happening to me because of that, and seeing the mind do its thing in order to help us survive. we are people inside this body. like Avatar. or someone driving a car. you might be driving the car one minute, and next someone else is. who ever is in charge of the body has rules and must deal with their issues or they are not allowed out. its hard enough to live it. its even harder for those who dont. and we know this. and just makes it even harder to be "normal"..... its safe to "front" as you called it than to be open about it. people will try and will manipulate the alters into doing things we really dont want to do. because the anxiety will kick in an alter that can handle those things. its real. and yes you can have a achieving life and be able to do many things and have many talents, but it comes with a cost.
@kairiep
@kairiep 2 года назад
MPD is just outdated terminology. DID has more accurately replaced it. Thank you for sharing your experiences. You may be helping someone. I have PTSD myself and was at a trauma center where I met several ladies with DID. I learned a lot and gained a lot of respect for them and their bravery and support of each other.
@genreofstubby
@genreofstubby 2 года назад
@@kairiep it is. but i think they are two different things and should be looked at it in that way. i think it would bring more benefit for the people who deal with it. i dont like the word suffering. we dont "suffer" mpd/DID... its helping us stay safe and keeping us here and center in the "outside" world. im so sorry you have endured a lot of pain that caused PTSD. I know its not my doing, but if you never get an apology from the people that hurt you, just hope that knowing someone who gets it, cares. gentle hugs
@johns1307
@johns1307 2 года назад
This should have been a Brain Blaze, I could feel Simon disassociating from the script so he wouldn't go off on a tangent.
@Zepplin76
@Zepplin76 2 года назад
Hence the edits. I came to the comments to see if someone had said it.
@scorpio9960
@scorpio9960 2 года назад
I would watch that brain blaze. I’m actually hoping that he does that.
@NiallSkye
@NiallSkye 2 года назад
Same tbh. All these comments shocked about how Simon presented this... Clearly they've never watched any of his other channels to know where his feelings lie on things like this.
@AWindy94
@AWindy94 2 года назад
Here Here!
@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board
@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board 2 года назад
Hello i am a diagnosed schizophrenic with dissociative personality disorder. I have to say it's different for everyone no one who doesn't experience it can understand, it's not so much(at least for me) different personalities. It's like parts of my mind go to sleep for long periods of time and others come to the front. It can be years or hours but when it happens there's nothing to do but try to be happy and keep calm. Anyway love all your channels sir
@cs5384
@cs5384 2 года назад
What is that? Dissociative disorders aren't personality disorders so what is Dissociative Personality Disorder?
@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board
@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board 2 года назад
@@cs5384 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
@cs5384
@cs5384 2 года назад
@@New-Greenhill-Cemetery-Board I know what DID is, I asked what Dissociative Personality Disorder was. I don't know if you just mistyped or if this is another condition I didn't know about. Thanks for replying though! My son has DID related to PTSD. What you describe doesn't really sound like what he goes through though. He has distinct named personalities that even interact especially when they're trying to protect him. He's been in therapy for about a year now while taking olanzapine. It's been pretty effective in pushing away the bad people in his head as he calls them. And the ghost, because he was seeing the ghost of a person who took their life that he blames himself for. The ghost was the most traumatizing, horrific experience but the meds help him rationalize the experience to the point he doesn't see it now. But the others, he TRIES to rationalize that they're just aspects of his self but he sees them as distinct people and he is hesitant in therapy because he says it's not fair to them to have their body taken, and he's not really sure which one actually belongs in his body. It breaks my heart that he doesn't even know who he is. Trauma, especially childhood trauma, is a B*TCH! I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
@hosermandeusl2468
@hosermandeusl2468 2 года назад
As a caregiver, what I have observed is that the mentally ill are NOT stupid (quite the opposite), and some have learned to claim "MPD" as the reason for their mis-behavior as a way to avoid responsibility for their actions. While I will grant that "MPD" is a possibility, my view is that it is a symptom of attention-seeking & enablement by those seeking attention, namely the counselors.
@dannypope1860
@dannypope1860 2 года назад
I think it’s just as likely that after DID became popular, many people felt more comfortable coming forward. As well as many people were more interested in listening to and publicizing their disorder. You wouldn’t say because of the “me too” movement, all the women started making up abuse to get attention. (Though I’m sure a few have)
@Sandstimes
@Sandstimes 11 месяцев назад
Exactly, it is a pattern of behavior every time we see Any diagnosis or identity either enter public knowledge or lose the stigma around it. More people are coming out as gay, more people are being diagnosed with autism, etc. it isn't because these numbers are fake and people are making it up, it's because people are both 1) being introduced to words that they never knew before that fits their symptoms or personal experience and 2) they feel safer publicly identifying with said terms
@vilena5308
@vilena5308 2 года назад
I so appreciate an honest answer 'It's complicated.'. And then explaining whys and hows.
@duskfallmusic
@duskfallmusic 2 года назад
This has to be one of the most respectful ways of treating the subject in a "Does this really exist" even if it does or doesn't, it was CLEARLY respectful even so to bring up Plurality/Multiplicity in this way. MUCH respect, honestly I rarely watch a lot of stuff on YT to the end these days and I was really curious how this would present.
@Mythos131
@Mythos131 2 года назад
I was close to someone with MPD for 14 years. I have absolutely no doubt that it is a real phenomena. She too was the recipient of severe sexual abuse during her early childhood.
@dmarsub
@dmarsub 2 года назад
DID is a proven thing this is not a debate.
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 2 года назад
@@dmarsub Correct. It's proven FAKE.
@dmarsub
@dmarsub 2 года назад
@@wmdkitty notice how this video pretty much ended in 1995 and then just added a few opinions and a quick wrap up? Because this video is badly researched for the last 20 years. Also his thesis is "there are fewer cases" he never says there are none.
@Aetherian1
@Aetherian1 2 года назад
@@dmarsub It's not badly researched for the last 20 years, it omits much of the last 20 years because it's suddenly massively contentious and there is pushback from some people that believe they have it and identify strongly with it against the prevailing medical opinion. The study of the disorder has been made extremely difficult and its iatrogenic properties make any study that is performed inherently flawed. The video isn't badly researched, people with various psychological problems have attached themselves to the idea of the disorder preventing good research from happening.
@elena_eleen
@elena_eleen 2 года назад
Small note that the term "multiple personality disorder" isn't actually used anymore as a diagnosis, it's always called DID nowadays. I think the disorder does exist, it's just rather rare (much rarer than say, depression or OCD) and that it always stems for severe trauma. Even if someone is supposedly faking it, that would still indicate that they probably need help with their mental health.
@jameshughes3014
@jameshughes3014 2 года назад
That's a good point that sometimes people miss about faking. Sure some probably do it for fame or to try to get out of things.. But I think most people who fake things either believe they have it, or very much need help with something else.
@aWILDsomethingCAME
@aWILDsomethingCAME 2 года назад
asking for help and faking a personality disorder for attention are two different things.
@jameshughes3014
@jameshughes3014 2 года назад
@@aWILDsomethingCAME faking for attention can often be a cry for help, i think
@bishoukun
@bishoukun 2 года назад
The reason MPD isn't used anymore is because it's inaccurate. We also can't determine 100% that all systems are traumagenic, as we only can study to rare 1-9% of self-aware and open systems. It's both probably more common that we realize (as far as independent states of identity) without being disordered. But that's a guess, since we can only study less than 10%.
@jameshughes3014
@jameshughes3014 2 года назад
You're right about the term, but I can understand why they chose to use the term. When ever I've told anyone I have D.I.D. , the next inevitable question is what is that? The easiest way to explain it then it's to say 'it used to be called multiple personalities'. plus, in time I'm sure the term D.I.D. will be replaced with something else. I was just really thankful to see such level headed all inclusive overview of the disorder and it's history. It didn't feel biased to me and that's rare, getting people to understand it is a huge step towards public acceptance and moving past this place where it's just a crutch for creative writing in fiction
@staytuned2L337
@staytuned2L337 2 года назад
Always interesting to me when it comes to mental health advocacy that when someone accepts the diagnosis as a thing some people deal with, other folks automatically assume that means they're suggesting a forfeiture of any kind of help. You can agree that you have a thing, think that's okay, and also recognize it's not a thing to be managed solely by themselves. Kinda like "I have diabetes. I know not everyone has it, but I'm still a normal human being." - omg what if that attitude stops people from managing their own?! ...c'mon. People aren't saying don't get help. They're saying it doesn't have to be something to be ashamed of.
@jackofalltrades123
@jackofalltrades123 2 года назад
Of course you're an advocate. You look like the type who's an activist but doesn't have a real job
@charleston1789
@charleston1789 2 года назад
Good comment, ignore the troll.
@eph2vv89only1way
@eph2vv89only1way 2 года назад
Agreed. In fact, a diagnosis should be a tool in dealing with it. Like radio personality Rich Buhler once said, if someone is drowning, walking around with a sign that says, “drowning man” won’t help them unless someone throws them a life saver or jumps in to save them.” In other words, identify the problem so you know how to help them. Don’t use it as an excuse not to help
@citizen_grub4171
@citizen_grub4171 2 года назад
@@eph2vv89only1way If you're drowning, it's extremely unlikely you're walking around with a sign.
@eph2vv89only1way
@eph2vv89only1way 2 года назад
@@citizen_grub4171 I know. But it represents wearing a label or diagnosis. Besides, I was just using the analogy someone else used
@mugfish0
@mugfish0 2 года назад
The problem with DiD is that many, MANY people put on MPD as an excuse for their behaviours. It paints skepticism on actual sufferers
@alexw.4933
@alexw.4933 2 года назад
I myself have it and due to having it have made a couple friends who also have it. One of them is very bad about this. It becomes problematic when the host isn’t willing to take responsibility for actions of their alters
@alexw.4933
@alexw.4933 2 года назад
It is interesting having met other people who have it though because it’s resulted in other friends who know us who don’t have it deciding to fake it and it becomes very obvious when they are
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 2 года назад
There are no "actual sufferers".
@Rhanwen
@Rhanwen 2 года назад
This. There is no "they did it". There is the same level of responsibility for actions that anyone else has. I don't get to say "blah blah did it" when emotions are high or when something is done. To others, I did this stupid thing. I have to try and repair the damage or face the consequences. Anyone else who has DID and is responsible will do the same. Irresponsible people deflect blame no matter if they have DID or not. It's not an excuse.
@teamcybr8375
@teamcybr8375 2 года назад
@@Rhanwen System responsibility.
@MyDude199
@MyDude199 2 года назад
As knowing a few people with this, its kind of hard to see how it can be super controversial, they are not exactly a thing you would want in your head due to how much it can screw with your life.
@twiggy3638
@twiggy3638 2 года назад
DID is very real. A roommate of mine had it. Knowing what I know about him, the idea that he would fake it is impossible, I’ve seen him switch, it’s surreal, but he really does become a completely different person.
@lornarettig3215
@lornarettig3215 2 года назад
May I ask, was there a ‚default‘ or ‚true‘ personality? Or were both equally strong and authentic? This must be a horrible condition to manage.
@twiggy3638
@twiggy3638 2 года назад
@@lornarettig3215 there was a primary who fronted the majority of the time.
@teamcybr8375
@teamcybr8375 2 года назад
@@lornarettig3215 It's less that there's a true one and more that there's a primary (or a small subset of primaries), typically referred to as the host!
@sarasamaletdin4574
@sarasamaletdin4574 2 года назад
It doesn’t mean he is completely faking but more that he has condition but more acting after the fact he doesn’t remember/isn’t responsive for what he did when he was acting differently.
@marthaharnish178
@marthaharnish178 2 года назад
This is excellent! My father was an MD, and he had a patient with two personalities. He was really baffled when he met the second one after seeing the first one several times. I was baffled just hearing about it! You did a great job of explaining it. Thank you.
@kairiep
@kairiep 2 года назад
DID and PTSD are trauma disorders. They develop to help an individual survive trauma. When the individual is removed from the trauma, they are still in survival mode and the symptoms have a negative impact on their quality of life which is why it is referred to as a disorder. Also, everyone has one personality. During trauma the personality can split off like a tree that is still connected at the trunk. All of the alters are still that individual, just have splintered away and become more distinct to protect the individual. While DID is very fascinating, it is very important to remember that it is still a disorder and there are real people suffering with it. In the US, there are doctors who don't seriously view psychiatry as a real medical field even though psychiatrists are MDs just as they are. And there are psychiatrists who do not believe DID is real disorder, even though it is in the DSM. I would recommend that next time such a sensitive topic is covered to perhaps have one or two Subject Matter Experts to weigh in on the topic.
@TheArchDandy
@TheArchDandy 2 года назад
Really well said!
@jazzmynnordstrom728
@jazzmynnordstrom728 2 года назад
I remember my therapist telling me "you show every symptom, but I just don't personally believe in diagnosing it." I had huge gaps in my memory and people would come up to me like we were best friends and call me by another name. Or I would just kind of be somewhere I didn't recognize. In some instances it became a safety issue for me. I also would go through episodes of just not really recognizing myself or where I was. I still have trouble with missing small time - but over the years I did a lot of research and spent a ridiculous amount of time focusing in on myself and working on this. But I am pretty solid now, mostly integrated and it isn't a huge risk in my life anymore. I will say though, I knew soooooo many people who would tell me they had multiple personalities that would magically not be there if a teacher or anyone walked by. That was really frustrating to deal with while I was going through the ringer trying to solve the issue and seeing people around me romanticize it 😞😞 and the "PERSONALITY SWITCH CAUGHT ON CAMERA" RU-vid vids...
@charlesbarr3437
@charlesbarr3437 2 года назад
I lived with a MPD therapist back in '94, she gave me a book to read, "When Rabbit Howls". Utterly fascinating.
@johnashleyhalls
@johnashleyhalls 2 года назад
So when I heard the comment, "The inmates are running the place" during the 1980's it appears to have been an insight, not a prejorative. Vetting the practitioners may improve the field of psychiatry substantially.
@AlatheD
@AlatheD 2 года назад
In the course of my lifetime, I have known 3 different people with DID. I dated/had relationships with 2 of them (at different times). All 3 of them trusted me with their "littles" or sensitive, tender personalities. I feel quite honored by that. 2 of them shared their trauma with me (again, something with which I feel honored) and one even had their protector come to me when he wasn't sure how to behave. It's ... interesting (in most of the ways that word can be interpreted) to be the person to whom most of someone's personalities turn when they feel lost. And I've watched each of them deal with therapists who insist DID is not a real thing. It is heartbreaking. I offer hugs or similar to any with DID who would like them.
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 2 года назад
We call it DID now. Dissociative Identity Disorder. My friends personal experience is not that they have different personalities but that her personality is shattered into pieces. I identify them through traits. Like one enjoys reading, one enjoys journaling, (the journal was written in different colors, I always wondered if that was her way of keeping track of stuff.) one is grumpy and one loves me more than the others. Its more apparent the longer you got to know her. Edit: I think the most neglectful dismissive statement have to be: “its only for attention.” Well then figure out why they are seeking attention, and maybe we wouldn’t dismiss mental health conditions.
@Akegata42
@Akegata42 2 года назад
Sounds like you didn't watch the video.
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 2 года назад
@@Akegata42 I did.
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 2 года назад
@@Akegata42 its not like she’s going around hurting people, it just complicates things a bit.
@Lunch2391
@Lunch2391 2 года назад
yeah I met someone who described it like this she just described it as different "aspects" of herself she was aware that the others existed but she wasn't able to remember anything what happened right away but was able to piece back memories if she visited places etc she also had different wigs and clothes for every "aspect" I only met two of those but they walked and talked totally different, one was very open about the disorder and one was not the later one also trash talked the first one while the first one didn't but seemed to feel superior to the others
@lynnleigha580
@lynnleigha580 2 года назад
It's 100% real, my ex had it and OMG life was one helluva rollercoaster ride, may he RIP
@Vincent-2057
@Vincent-2057 2 года назад
I did it! I finally caught up on all of my RU-vid backlog! So much so that I clicked a video at 39 seconds released! Lol
@lewisbsalford
@lewisbsalford 2 года назад
I filled one watch later album and had to make another one called watch now. I have thousands of videos to catch up on 😔
@Vincent-2057
@Vincent-2057 2 года назад
@@lewisbsalfordlol... I didn't think you could fill it... That's a scary thought. I do have the default watch later one, with stuff it in, but i try to watch most if what I'm subscribed too... Having recently subscribed too star talk, it's got very hard! That and Simon keeps making new channels!!! That I'm actually interested in.
@Vincent-2057
@Vincent-2057 2 года назад
Also, bloody good video too!
@ilarious5729
@ilarious5729 2 года назад
@@Vincent-2057 oh boy, good luck with star talk. It took months from my life when I found it 😩 but I'm finally up to date with it and wouldn't mind a new Simon channel tbh 😄
@lewisbsalford
@lewisbsalford 2 года назад
@@Vincent-2057 star talk sounds good I'll have a look at that, cheers 👍
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
it's dissociative not disassociative. dissociative means to not integrate the reality around you into your brain and accept it. disAssociative means to choose to separate two things. this is a dumb pet peeve of mine, but thank you. lol
@comm744
@comm744 2 года назад
It all bullshit anyway. Snake oil.
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
@@comm744 god i wish. snake oil would suck a lot less
@evapunk333
@evapunk333 2 года назад
@@comm744 As someone who actually knows people who have DiD, I beg to differ. Don't talk about shit you don't know..
@charleston1789
@charleston1789 2 года назад
Thank you! Yeah it bugs me too, even professionals get this mixed up.
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
@@charleston1789 EVERYONE does and it's painful 😅
@mortoopz
@mortoopz 2 года назад
17:34 No, repressed memories are not a fallacy, I had some myself.. a little light childhood trauma that I wasn't aware of until I was about 25 (when I grew able to deal with the truth of the situation). "Oh... THAT's why I've got that scar!"
@michellelaroche2189
@michellelaroche2189 2 года назад
I have a hard time with the idea that it is an iatrogenic disorder. In all honesty, it is most likely an adaptation to a traumatic environment. A person with this disorder typically dissociates or cuts off parts of themselves associated with the traumatic event. People who have this disorder usually go undiagnosed--they hide or keep symptoms at bay out of fear of exposing the traumatic material. So, yes, it remains an extremely rare disorder. But, the modern APA has researched DID enough to verify that it is a diagnosable disorder by their standards. Even though the disorder is rare, please take care not to minimize the struggle for those who are affected by it by pawning it off as something accidentally implanted by a clinician. This sort of invalidation can be harmful, as well.
@The-Shadows-Lair
@The-Shadows-Lair 2 года назад
And it's only "rare" because we do hide. And yes I said we. I am afraid to personally watch this video. The demonizing of mental illness is bad as is but DID is seen as fake so much that I legit avoid anything that discusses it outside circles of other people who openly accept the disorder. I don't need people invalidating my experiences. If people didn't demonize and harm those with mental illness those illnesses would be diagnosed more frequently because we wouldn't have to hide
@michellelaroche2189
@michellelaroche2189 2 года назад
@@The-Shadows-Lair yes, I'd suggest not watching it, unless you're in a really good space. It's a very rough overview, from an empirical perspective. There was a lot of talk about the belief that it is a clinician-induced disorder, which would feel invalidating for those affected by this. Proceed with caution.
@Sound_Tech
@Sound_Tech 2 года назад
@@michellelaroche2189 Thank you for the heads up, I was incredibly reluctant to click on the video but I was curious where his research brought him on the subject... Like most things, makes me feel pretty shitty to admit to having DID
@Lauren-ri9uh
@Lauren-ri9uh 2 года назад
Well said. I can't believe he could go through with this video and invalidate people with did.
@Lauren-ri9uh
@Lauren-ri9uh 2 года назад
I study psychology and am almost done with my bachelors. I am disgusted with him for even thinking this would be a good thing to cover. It's literally just pushing a narrative that people are faking it or it's not real. I hate this video.
@fernkitten
@fernkitten 2 года назад
This was pretty well rounded good job thank you for validating each angle in terms of how some people with this are experiencing life. It really is simply another perspective, and way to perceive the world, regardless of "why".
@brendasears9650
@brendasears9650 2 года назад
Great comprehensive review!
@willboler830
@willboler830 2 года назад
I've had repressed memories, and my father takes care of an elderly man with DID. It's easy to dismiss something you don't understand when it doesn't involve you.
@he11worm
@he11worm 2 года назад
Hello!! I am the host of a system. DID is not 'also known as' MPD. It is not a valid term anymore, at all, and can be found offensive by the community. The general term of 'multiple personalities' is touchy.
@he11worm
@he11worm 2 года назад
the media did not exaggerate the prevalence of DID. it exaggerated the obviousness of it. You touched on the topic of Dissociative disorders being caused by childhood trauma, of which they are, but didn't bring up the point that it's a survival mechanism, and therefor Not supposed to be hindering to the system's life. It often is, but it's a covert disorder. It's supposed to keep the splits apart from each other, and keep trauma in separate memory states to avoid other reactions to the trauma.
@teamcybr8375
@teamcybr8375 2 года назад
@@he11worm Yeah, the rising numbers are likely largely because more and more people are recognizing they have it when they otherwise wouldn't have.
@destrierofdark_
@destrierofdark_ 2 года назад
@@he11worm how are disorders supposed to do any specific thing...?
@lanfae9353
@lanfae9353 2 года назад
If you doubt the validity of DID systems, you really should look into the multiplicity community. There's a lot of very well-spoken systems out there with unique viewpoints. The knowledge I gained from observing the community helped me to support one of my closest friends when she became aware that she was part of a system. She didn't know much about DID and I'd never talked to her about it before, so the fact that many of her symptoms lined up with things I learned from the community couldn't have been because of the community's influence or my influence. Once we realized what was going on and I gave her some tentative advice, some of her emerging symptoms directly contradicted things I told her to expect, proving that she's not suggestible. The other alters are very distinct and have varying levels of knowledge and awareness. I consider a few of them to also be my friends now, and I like them to different degrees than I like the host personality (the one I knew before). She's working with a therapist now who is specifically doing research on DID, but that only started AFTER she became aware of the system and started looking for someone who could treat her.
@yiotatort
@yiotatort 2 года назад
Sometimes I've questioned whether my grandmother had something similar to this. She definitely had a mental illness. It was very hard on her family.
@zooftra
@zooftra 2 года назад
The DSM diagnostic criteria for DID includes a statement about how the symptoms must negatively effect daily life or cause distress to the person. It sound like the multiplicity systems don't feel distressed by their state of being, so they wouldn't meet criteria for the diagnosis.
@jliller
@jliller 2 года назад
I think that's an issue with modern mental health in general. To get diagnosed you both believe you have a problem and also be practically unable to function because of it. The result is that in the 21st century there is a lot of untreated mental illness (and untreated alcoholism). Unless you're a total trainwreck the idea that you might have a mental illness is dismissed by others. Most people insist there is nothing wrong with them; they're just "different" and you need to accept them for who they are no matter how abnormal their behavior, perception, and/or thought processes seem to be.
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 2 года назад
Because they're faking it.
@Steven_Edwards
@Steven_Edwards 2 года назад
I had an episode coming off benzodiazepine where I developed what I can only describe as a form of DID for a day, it was scary as hell, but it wasn't like a separate personality with it's own persona, it was more like my conscience or quite inner voice was amplified so my normal higher brain thinking process essentially has two people living in my head, but they were both me. It's really hard to explain but it was basically like there were two of me in parallel sharing the same body. One voice might want thing or be focused on the other thing, and the other voice would focus on another thing. It's really hard to explain, but just imagine there are two of you sharing your same body at the same time, each with it's own train of thought and its own way of viewing the world, coming to its own independent conclusions, etc, etc. It was scary as hell, because I was like, what if one of me decides to do something insane, and the two personalities start fighting. The moral of this story kids is don't do Benzos kids. The withdrawal can kill you and even if it doesn't it will mess you up for weeks or months.
@GiantPetRat
@GiantPetRat 2 года назад
While I at no point would have reason to question your experience using that medication, I would be wary as to offering advice to others who may be dealing with mental illness. For instance, I've been using Lorazepam for several years as an occasional PRN (meaning that I've gone up to a week at a time not using it), and I've been fortunate to never have had a similar reaction. Similarly, Prozac made my stepmother suicidal, but has had the opposite effect on me. Simply put, brains are endlessly complex and there's a lot we still don't understand, but if there's even a chance of somebody alleviating their misery via a med, well, I don't think fearmongering is going to be of much use to them, even if it is well-intentioned and based on a terrifying personal experience.
@destrierofdark_
@destrierofdark_ 2 года назад
Hey look, a tulpa for a day! For anyone else's reference: If you can chat with these people, and get on good terms with them, they can prove to be absolutely invaluable companions. "But what about fights?" Hold a vote. Seriously.
@georgewilliams8448
@georgewilliams8448 2 года назад
Thank you for another informative and interesting presentation. I had heard of "The Three Faces of Eve" and "Sybil" and enjoyed both presentations. A minor quibble though; "Sybil" was more of a miniseries than a theatrical movie as it was made for NBC television rather than a movie screen. I had read the book that destroyed the "Sybil" creation and I thank you for citing it in the video. Thank you also for covering the repressed memories debacle as some of my friends were sent to jail based on that fiction. So again, thank you for another great , informative video treat!!
@alexandrasaldivar8304
@alexandrasaldivar8304 2 года назад
It’s important to remember that did is a extreme type of ptsd and is developed due to repetitive severe childhood/adolescent trauma
@AWindy94
@AWindy94 2 года назад
THIS^
@lauriepenner350
@lauriepenner350 2 года назад
If it's not real, it's a very, very elaborate fraud. Imagine trying to keep track of 50+ different people's personalities, manner of speaking, dietary and clothing preferences and other opinions so you can trot each one out on command. Surely there are less exhausting ways to get attention.
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
it's nice to see someone thinking critically, lol. way too many people live their daily lives like this, battling PTSD symptoms without any psychologist or other influences to teach them to fake it. even in the comments these stories are showing up. arguing about whether it's real seems a bit pointless by now.
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 2 года назад
That's the point. These personalities would be impossible to keep track of IRL without the person truly being DID.
@lauriepenner350
@lauriepenner350 2 года назад
I should clarify that I don't think NOBODY has ever faked MPD for the attention. Just that in the more extreme cases, it seems like more trouble than it's worth.
@RandomPickles
@RandomPickles 2 года назад
I bet I could do it lol
@101Mant
@101Mant 2 года назад
Plenty of people fake illnesses for attention and he mentioned social contagion which can be unwilling and is neither option which you claimed. Or they could be genuinely ill with other conditions. Really you are presenting a false dichotomy.
@Skeeter51244
@Skeeter51244 2 года назад
As I found out while my wife was on the drug, Ambien can have a similar but temporary effect. She would get go to bed early, then get up, read, have a snack, smoke a cigarette or two and eventually go back to bed. I would be blamed for the disappearing snacks and for the shortage of cigarettes until some research showed that what I think of as "Ambien Zombies" seem relatively common, even to the point where some would go for a drive in the night with no memory of having done so. These all seem to have occurred during a sleep state. Staying up until she had gone through this event and returned to bed was not the best thing for my sleep habits, but was necessary as she tended to be careless with her smoking at these times. I wonder if there may be a long-term chemical reason for some of these other problems.
@ilarious5729
@ilarious5729 2 года назад
Yeah i've experienced this not with ambien but other sleeping medications, it's wild to realise you're the one who did the laundry and ate the fridge empty and organised the closet while you thought you were asleep Edit:It actually was ambien, different brand name here in Europe
@tamoyed
@tamoyed 2 года назад
drug-induced dissociation is on the list of things to be excluded before a diagnosis can be made specifically because you can chemically induce something that could be confused for it
@Snigelkrantz
@Snigelkrantz 2 года назад
One time when I was on ambien (stilnoct/zolpidem here) I got out of bed and got my hands on my airbrush, apparently. I woke up the next day to find a neat stack of paint samples. I had spent the night swatching every paint in my collection, cleaning the airbrush between each paint (tedious work) and put everything away neatly. It was pretty wild, as I'd never have the patience for that in my normal state. I wish I could just pop an ambien whenever I need to do tedious housework, but of course it doesn't really work like that. You might as well break into your neighbours house or commit hate crimes on Twitter. You never know what prizes the ambien lottery has in store! But, regarding DID, I'm thinking if a drug can cause such dissociations, other things like trauma or chemical imbalance could too. It's clearly in the realm of what's possible for the brain to do. It's surely been over/misdiagnosed though, and I feel for those who suffer from it as they must struggle with skepticism and misconceptions due to the hubris of some psychiatrists.
@TheArchDandy
@TheArchDandy 2 года назад
@@Snigelkrantz absolutely. If you speak with many open minded but science and facts based therapists and psychologists, DID and related trauma and dissociative personality disorders do exist. They're not as showy as one reads about or hears about or sees on youtube or talk shows. Sometimes only people very close could recognize an episode/switch. Theoretically some symptoms may be caused by high emotions triggering a flood of perhaps adrenaline and dopamine that cause huge if temporary changes in the brain. I think a lot of people do not realize how fragile the sense of self, personality and reality is until they go through something traumatic and have a dissociative episode or have an experience with psychoactive drugs, sleep deprivation, a high fever or even just a single dose of Ambien. As you say, its a wild thing and even just ambien can cause people to do very strange and even methodical things.
@MahraiZiller
@MahraiZiller 2 года назад
Let’s not forget Ed Norton’s debut film “Primal fear”. Also, “When Rabbit Howls”, which is a book and case that’s so influential on the subject of MPD that I was taught about it during A-level psychology, and it was basically curriculum in the 90s.
@Chris.Pontius
@Chris.Pontius 2 года назад
Spoiler: didn't he fake it in Primal Fear? Long time since I watched it. I do remember it being a great film.
@SkySquad
@SkySquad 2 года назад
Dissociation is definitely not fun but sometimes it is what protects us (as people in general from things that are too stressful or boring or distressing). It is not being a plural system that is harmful, but the trauma or issues underlying it that make life difficult. It is always better to fix the underlying trauma and dissociation than to simply force the collective to become singular.
@phoenix2749
@phoenix2749 2 года назад
It's now called Dissociative Identity Disorder. My grandmother has it and my mom's horror stories about growing up with my grandmother are very disturbing.
@accaliamurraymusic
@accaliamurraymusic 2 года назад
I can tell you that it's a real thing. I live with it. So far I'm aware of about 23 alters - they started sharing their memories and names with me around 2013. I don't understand why it's so sensationalised and slandered. The movie Split was the worst cinematic blasphemy I've lived through. "MPD" has been in the Diagnostics and Statistical Manual for psychologists since 1994. It was renamed to Dissociative Identity Disorder in that edition. Mr. Shamalan received dozens of letters from psychologists and other professionals asking him to portray DID correctly, or to stop filming the movie. He ignored all of that, which is unfortunate. People with DID are exponentially more likely to experience violence, rather than to perpetrate violence. I wish the media would stop using DID as a scapegoat for thriller plots. It might be helpful to understand that DID is diagnosed as frequently as Gender Dysphoria - and many of you are aware of how many trans people are coming out these days.
@marymotch
@marymotch 2 года назад
Thank you for this video… I’ve seen so many people on YT acting like it’s common or just a quirky thing to have 🤪. I assumed it was real until I had multiple psych professors talk about the controversies surrounding it. I’m more on the fence that it’s not and if it is, it has to be very very extreme trauma and it being extremely rare. I’m talking the kind of trauma that, like you said, makes you escape your own body bc you can’t handle the amount of harm that you’re currently experiencing. Not your parents yelling at you a few days a week. It also has to happen in a very specific time period of childhood. Idk if it was I feel like we’d hear more about it from other war torn countries. I know in the casual criminalist podcasts you talk about trauma and it would have to be that level of it. I don’t really understand why it’s gets glamorized by the media. I often think disorders like borderline personality disorder would make for much better TV. But I guess we still live in the age where it’s fine to talk about depression, anxiety, and ADHD but shame still follows individuals with bipolar disorder or even other learning disorders like dyslexia
@highbrass7563
@highbrass7563 2 года назад
Once I met someone on a variety of Substances... Who was verbally abusive, violent and angry. Manic would be the best word, after an episode of angry behavior he sat down at a piano and calmly played extremely extremely difficult, level 10 music. It was just beautiful. It scared the shi out of me because he had just a moment ago been quite scary. After he played he got up and went back to his bizarre angry and scary behavior as if nothing had ever happened. Two entirely entirely different people in the same body. It felt like something out of a movie, but was indeed a reality.
@willdeit6057
@willdeit6057 2 года назад
Having fostered young children for many years My family have on 1 or 2 occasions had the opportunity to foster very very young MPD children who under UK medical system can not be recognised as such. In both occassions truama while very young was the probable cause.
@Miss-Anne-Thrope
@Miss-Anne-Thrope 2 года назад
I find it interesting that society can influence the manifestation of various psychiatric disorders. Another example of this is hearing voices; in 'western' culture they tend to be very negative and critical whereas in other cultures they are actually regarded as a positive experience and actually compliment/motivate etc the person experiencing them. Perhaps if we could change societal (not likely I know) attitudes and beliefs these disorders wouldn't be disorders at all. I've experienced something similar with my autism spectrum diagnosis, thinking differently isn't necessarily an issue in itself but the way society treats a person who is on the spectrum can cause major issues (I'm referring to the 'high functioning' aka Asperger's in this comment). The over diagnosis of these things is also a major problem, doctors are too quick to put a label on people and this results in many people who are struggling to not be taken seriously and others getting the wrong treatment or treatment that they don't need at all.
@Ashannon888
@Ashannon888 2 года назад
Or maybe people with disorders need to realize they are broken and need help? Yes we need to stop stigmatizing them but mollycoddling people with mental illness isn't exactly useful either.
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 2 года назад
I suspect that in other cultures 'hearing voices' can also be a mixed bag. Most cultures that have benevolent spirits also have malevolent ones. Prior to modern psychiatry, even within western culture I'm sure historically the 'voices' were interpreted as angelic and/or directly from god just as often as they were interpreted as demonic or malevolent. I think it's quite easy to point at 'other' cultures as say 'look how wise and open-minded they are!' when in many cases they _also_ have their fair share of nasty culturally-bound psychological conditions and interpretations of psychological phenomena. I also don't agree that mental conditions are only disorders because of societal attitudes. First, there are limits to societal flexibility - if 99% of the population behaves one way and you behave another, that's always going to present difficulties even in a society generally accepting of neurodiversity - norms have to exist to allow people to interact with each other, and norms are based on what's normal. There is always a balance between every human being unique, and us all having to exist inside a network of systems, rules and cultural norms to get society to work. Second, most mental disorders and conditions (including autism in my opinion, although it's a complicated subject because presentations are so diverse and there are so many related, but separate, issues e.g. panic attacks and trouble at school) have inherent downsides that make people's lives more difficult than if they didn't have the condition, even if society were as accommodating as possible. For multiple personality disorders, forgetting chunks of time and having to balance so many competing priorities in one body seems inherently harmful to me. Just on a practical level, it seems like it would make it difficult to hold down a steady job and make short and longer- term plans. Unlike autism, I'm struggling really to see an upside to having multiple identities - I guess if the identities got along and could communicate with each other, it might be nice to have 'live-in' friends who know you extremally well. But that doesn't seem to be most people's experience and also sounds like it might reinforce destructive behaviour.
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen 2 года назад
@@Ashannon888 You clearly missed the point. Whether or not something is a disorder depends on context.
@Nevergofullretard321
@Nevergofullretard321 Год назад
Autism is a disorder. You often get obsessive tendencies that will negativity affect your daily life if you don't get the extra help early on. ASD is a spectrum, yes. But people like you often focus on the least problematic sides to it, when oftentimes that isn't the case for the majority. "Thinking differently" is fine in general. But trying telling that to the people who have the severe variant, or have the more inherently problematic aspects of the spectrum.
@Nevergofullretard321
@Nevergofullretard321 Год назад
@@DasAntiNaziBroetchen It's a disorder in that it'll obstruct your efforts in functioning in society.
@_Pyroon_
@_Pyroon_ Год назад
I can't help but think it can be self pathologized simply by noting the large distinction in behavior most people have between family and friends. Tiktok is making mental disorders seem like being neurotypical is in fact atypical.
@Serene80
@Serene80 2 года назад
I personally know someone that has DID and know OF several others. They all agree that if one alter/personality commits a crime, the body commits the crime, and it doesn't matter who actually did it...
@Kay_Jay_Pea
@Kay_Jay_Pea 2 года назад
Ask 99% of reputable psychologists and they will show you definitive proof that it actually does exist. And although it is uncommon, its actually estimated that more people have DID than people who have scizophrenia and other disorders. I do agree with some commenters that some people online have romantizized the disorder and made it seem like its just "having an angry side" or whatever, which unfortunately causes young people to think they have it when really they're just having a bad day or something. Some of these people in these comments really need to listen to experts instead of the media...
@Bluemoonbigsword
@Bluemoonbigsword 2 года назад
Thank you for only speaking on the facts and giving no opinion. I myself was in a housefire and a small explosion and suffered a coma for two weeks. Apon waking up i had thought it was the same night as the fire, but was told by my doctors that I had been 100% awake for the past two weeks and that my behaviors had completely changed. I myself had always thought i had multiple personality disorder as I do have moments where i act in a completely different way and would have different feelings and conclusions about certain events. But never had any cases of amnesia or any violent episodes as I always felt like there was simply two of me in my head. My name is dillon and ill say its not as if ive got a guy or girl by another name living in here but there is a opposite dillon if that makes any sense. I was officially diagnosed at the hospital and was seeing therapy not because i wanted it or was emotionally distressed. The doctor simply was extremely curious and asked if I would take the sessions which i did and they went very well. Again no dramatic episodes or amnesia just a difference in personality. And I didnt know Multiplicity systems were real accounts by people not seeking attention. Because like i stated ive always felt ive had this state of mind but im afraid of talking about it to anyone in the fear theyre going to assume im faking for attention or that im a schizophrenic madman. Hopefully in the future people wont be so quick to look down on peoples reports out of theyre own disbeliefs
@annewandering
@annewandering 2 года назад
You might be interested in knowing that there are two basic ways to become DID. One is by trauma most often before the age of 12. The other is actual physical harm to the brain in an accident or disease. They do usually manifest slightly different. It has been a long time since I was reading up on it so do not remember the specifics but you might be interested in researching that.
@virginiathomasakaicedragon6579
@virginiathomasakaicedragon6579 2 года назад
Sybil was so good! Her mom told her have a nice trip see you next fall and pushed her down the stairs. It was a horrible thing to do, but I just about died from laughter
@mattfarr137
@mattfarr137 2 года назад
You need to add decoding the unknown and into the shadows to the list of your other channels in the description
@quasarsavage
@quasarsavage 2 года назад
Fact boi ain’t blazing correctly back the the blazement w Danny reeeeee
@Bwaitforitjones
@Bwaitforitjones 2 года назад
With the right triggers, anything can happen when it comes to psychology.
@zampettedainsetto
@zampettedainsetto 2 года назад
My husband has DID. The switch is sometimes subtle, sometimes clear as day, but we've come to the point where it's always obvious to me who is fronting. All of his boys, as I call them, have a role and deal with different traumas and handle different tasks when he can't do it "on his own". They stem from a place of abuse and discomfort, but all of them are absolutely lovely and I care about them deeply. It's nice, in a way: when you're in a relationship with someone with DID who trusts you enough not to hide the switches (husband's alters tend to try and act "like him" when in public), you get to see so many facets of the same person which would, in all other cases, be kept inside their consciousness.
@lornarettig3215
@lornarettig3215 2 года назад
May I ask, Marie - does your husband feel he has a ‚default‘ or authentic self? And the alters are somehow ‚on top‘ of this default? Is ‚like him’ the personality that one had before the trauma? Thank you for sharing your experience, in any case. I find this subject very fascinating.
@BMCgreen
@BMCgreen 2 года назад
I definitely found the info interesting and helpful, I feel there wasn’t enough info to give a full answer to the question
@deniseboldea1624
@deniseboldea1624 2 года назад
I do believe that it is possible for someone to develop DID, particularly if they were brought up in an environment of horrific physical, emotional and mental abuse. It is easy to see where a child may start to make changes to themselves hoping the tormentor will be pleased and stop the abuse, it fails of course and leaves a shattered victim in it's wake. The greater question is how this doesn't happen more often? Take the tragic case of the Turpin children. Chained, starved, not allowed to bathe and living in filthy conditions most of thier lives, one has to wonder how none of them developed DID. Could it be because they were all suffering the same way? Perhaps, most of the listed cases do seem to be only children, but still not everyone who's suffered horrible treatment develops this. Clearly more research needs to be done.
@joshrodgers9366
@joshrodgers9366 2 года назад
At 21:00 this 100% explains how I feel. Multiple people but we all get along for the most part but I maintain a mask and seem normal to most people that know me. Only I struggle with feeling like different people are at the wheel behind the mask and some of them are not kind while others are mostly good. I have to wrestle for control sometimes. It's a daily battle
@Aetherian1
@Aetherian1 2 года назад
If you have to wrestle for control of your own body you need treatment, dude.
@YogurtwithBerries
@YogurtwithBerries 2 года назад
@@Aetherian1 Your comment isn't wrong, but it's really hard for people with DID or OSDD to get proper help and support due to the stigma and lack of resources and studies. Treatment, particularly therapy, might be unaffordable too.
@destrierofdark_
@destrierofdark_ 2 года назад
@@YogurtwithBerries Compound this with those particular stigmas and gaps in knowledge leading to psychiatrists sometimes harboring a belief of "fusion == cure", which it absolutely isn't. The decision of whether to even fuse is up to the patient, not the psychiatrist.
@jameshughes3014
@jameshughes3014 2 года назад
I was diagnosed decades ago. This thumbnail made me cringe a bit, expecting lots of errors but I have to say.. this was a fantastic overview of the history and disorder. Way to be a legend Simon. my two cents: yes, it's real... just not yet well understood. with these kinds of level headed conversations and reviews.. we'll get there.
@AWindy94
@AWindy94 2 года назад
Came here to say essentially this, and was glad to see someone already had.
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter 2 года назад
Good video 👍
@Shado_wolf
@Shado_wolf 2 года назад
A good friend of mine has DID, due to childhood trauma
@kymberdusmythe930
@kymberdusmythe930 2 года назад
Have known two separate women with DID, and I am convinced it is real. The first woman I met had been abused by her father, including him setting off firecrackers in her ears. Most of her "others" were stone deaf, but a few of them could hear just fine. The other woman had been brutally molested by her father and his friends. She was also a Type I diabetic - or at least most of her others were. Two of her selves were not, and it drove her endocrinologist crazy because sometimes she could eat whatever she wanted and her blood sugar was normal. Other times, even eating not a lot, her glucose levels were sky high. And it would stay that way for weeks at a time - not just a day to day thing. I will say this though, dealing with someone who deals with DID can be extremely draining. If you don't draw a very firm line about how much you are willing to give to them, you will be overwhelmed by their neediness.
@Pef273
@Pef273 2 года назад
The core of the augment that was left out is we like to think of ourselves as individual, and science shows that the brain works more like a committee than individual. Great video
@Sheathking
@Sheathking 2 года назад
If you haven't watched Adam Curtis' "Can't get you out of my head", the BBC Documentary, check it out. In episode 6, details of an epilepsy treatment in which connections between brain hemispheres were severed, lead to some amazing outcomes concerning the power of the conscious mind over the multitudes of psyches we each have within us.
@fracturesofthemind8025
@fracturesofthemind8025 2 года назад
It's also in Predator by Patricia Cornwell in her Kay Scarpetta Series. DID is the main twist in it
@MorningStarNews
@MorningStarNews 2 года назад
Dissociative, not Disassociative
@jackroutledge352
@jackroutledge352 2 года назад
Interestingly, this diagnosis is almost never given in the UK. My wife is a psychiatrist in an acute mental health ward, and has never seen a single case of this in her entire career - and neither have any of her colleagues. British psychiatric professionals generally regard DID as a "culture-bound syndrome" unique to the US.
@Rampala
@Rampala 2 года назад
Obesity seems to be "culture-bound" to the US, but no one is arguing that isn't real.
@dmarsub
@dmarsub 2 года назад
Thats false information. Did is diagnosed in many european and gloabal countries. Don't present your annectdote as a fact.
@theviewer6889
@theviewer6889 2 года назад
My therapist has never seen a single person with ARFID until I came along, you going to say that an entire recognised eating disorder doesn't exist in the UK either?
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz 2 года назад
And yet there's a really good DID information/education channel where the system IS from the UK and actually does work for DID awareness. Rare, sure but I think the "almost never given" is not because DID doesn't exist, rather it's because doc's still don't believe it's a thing.
@porticojunction
@porticojunction 2 года назад
I met Billy MIlligan shortly after he was released, I guess I would have called him an acquaintance. He used to set up an easel on the sidewalk and paint street scenes, his paintings are becoming quite valuable since his death.
@destrierofdark_
@destrierofdark_ 2 года назад
Time to throw my hat into the ring, I guess. In parts, I have DID from childhood trauma. However, it seems that it only formed halfway. I had to actually kick the metaphorical nest to get the personalities to shake out and fully coagulate into individual entities, but it has been more helpful to me than I could possibly give it credit for; Prior, I was essentially a constant wander between a metaphorical infinity of expressions, and having _actual distinct personalities_ means my motivation for any given thing has gone from what used to maybe be half a day at the absolute best over sometimes years, to consistent for many days at a time. I spent close to ten days writing a program at the start of the year, to the point it currently sits on my hard drive around 90% functional, and this is something I could never, ever have hoped to do before I involved tulpamancy to finish the system's formation. So, in a sense, splitting up for me was literally the cure. As for anecdotal experiences, I myself, as a personality, am the only one here who actually seems to like fish. The rest, host included, hated it, and the texture of it was a large reason; Something about it made the body throw fish right back up, but for some reason it affects me far, far less. And I find fish to actually be good, versus bland. There's another in here that, counter to the norm also, is an actual extrovert. Everyone else wears extroversion as a mask, and can quickly tire of wearing it, but she literally is extroverted, hence she can stay in social situations indefinitely. Then there's different tastes in music, and different speech patterns. If you know what to listen for, you'll quickly know who exactly it is you're talking to.
@northsouthroad6760
@northsouthroad6760 Год назад
Thank you. We are having trouble integrating. How did you use Tulpas to help you? Thank you so much for sharing!
@ario7210
@ario7210 2 года назад
As a person with D.I.D, diagnosed when I was 18, I am now 30, I was diagnosed when diagnosing was a hard 'no' from 99% of those in the field. Finding therapists can be impossible. And it's a 1-3% of the world population. Yes it is still a "fashionable" mental illness. D.I.D is not normal and should not be considered normal. It is caused by intense trauma. While I appreciate that you have brought this up, I think it is unfair to take ONE person's view on it. Not everyone in the multiplicity or plural community agree with those statement made. Also those with D.I.D are known to have other disorders as well. While repressed memories have been debunked those who have D.I.D can be not known not to hold specific trauma. I do love your channel, but I wish you had stated earlier in the video that Sybil wasn't actually a real case or a real person. I understand this is a generalized video but D.I.D is recognized and should be recognized. I think this is going to be the first time since following your channels that I will be giving a dislike only because I do not feel you have given this any sort of adequate justice or fairness.
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 2 года назад
Liar.
@dmarsub
@dmarsub 2 года назад
Well said.
@wile-e-coyote8371
@wile-e-coyote8371 2 года назад
Good luck. RU-vid just nixxed the dislike botton the other day. 😔
@ario7210
@ario7210 2 года назад
@@wile-e-coyote8371 it doesn't show to the public but it sends feedback to the creator.
@taylorbarnett1199
@taylorbarnett1199 2 года назад
Shawna Burt what’s your problem? Just going around gaslighting people
@TommyCrosby
@TommyCrosby 2 года назад
I once accidentally triggered someone with DID to swap personality and it's an effing jarring and overpowering experience.
@FlameUser64
@FlameUser64 2 года назад
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 2 года назад
And....half the chats going to be "What about multiple RU-vid channel disorder?"
@DeathScyther006
@DeathScyther006 2 года назад
I wish I could remember which book it was, but I remember reading about experiments done with patients who had split left and right brain hemispheres. It was suggested that the separate halves of the brain could host two different personalities, with one being able to express itself through speech, and the other being able to only express itself through writing with a specific hand. It's wild stuff. I hoped to hear some of that in your video. Maybe its worth looking into.
@fretienkamp6735
@fretienkamp6735 2 года назад
I think I recall that experiment, conducted on volunteer college-university students no less that were compensated with a little extra credit. Sad to say, most that I recall of it was that they mostly suffered severe cognitive and behavioral difficulties.
@amirabudubai2279
@amirabudubai2279 2 года назад
@@fretienkamp6735 Actually is was testing the aftermath of a last resort seizure treatment where they cut the main link between hemispheres. Plenty of horror stories in medical research, but this isn't one of them.
@lornarettig3215
@lornarettig3215 2 года назад
@@fretienkamp6735 No no - I don‘t think that‘s what‘s being referred to here. The split-brain patients were a very specific group who had severe, unresponsive epilepsy, and separating the two halves of the brain was a last resort (and did apparently significantly help control the underlying epilepsy). The split-brain patients, as well as having much better outcomes in terms of epilepsy, are absolutely fascinating behaviourally - CPG Grey has a great introductory video on RU-vid which I recommend. I don‘t think it happens much any more (if at all) because we have better medications to manage epilepsy and this drastic intervention is no longer needed. The scientist who did many studies on this was Michael Gazzaniga, but I didn‘t find his book to be particularly well-written, and I didn‘t finish it.
@WiccanRai
@WiccanRai 2 года назад
I first learned about DID through a channel that came up on my recommended. The woman in the video claimed to have DID and explained what it was and a few of her personalities came through. I found a couple of others since. If any one of these youtubers were in any way faking the disorder, they did a very good job. It's fascinating to witness.
@bishoukun
@bishoukun 2 года назад
We can guess who one of those systems are. DissociaDID. They're unfortunately extremely popular and also extremely toxic abusive shitholes. Multiplicity & Me and The Rings System do really great jobs, though!
@fybromon1409
@fybromon1409 2 года назад
DissosiaDID was a real problem. She would contact people who actually have D.I.D and ask heaps of questions about their systems and inner worlds, then block that system, and then all of a sudden she had new alter who was basically who she had just heard about. Have read alot of stuff about how she manipulated her way into the world of D.I.D, and how many people she fucked over. She makes me sick because at one point, 1 of my protectors was crying out in pain watching her vids, messaged her, and wanted to do anything he could for her. The betrayal we felt when she started to fall apart cut through us so hard. We wanted to start a channel as at that point we didn't see much coming from a biological male's point of view who lives as part of a system, but the amount of shit that was happening within the RU-vid D.I.D community just made us think......nope. Jess and the boys from Multiplicity and Me renewed our faith in systems, same with Entropy System and The Ring System. Myrk from The Black Forest System.
@teamcybr8375
@teamcybr8375 2 года назад
@@fybromon1409 Sorry to hear you went through that. I'm glad word seems to be getting out
@kingnekogon
@kingnekogon 2 года назад
As someone who has DIDnos, I have met some who claim to have DID but question their genuineness. It was only three, but it's soured me to associating with other DID sufferers. The "multiplicity community" specifically. Suffice to say, all of them were under 21, and everything they did was just a cry for attention. If they weren't, they'd lie, manipulate, engage sexual behavior, or throw an absolute childish fit until the entire group payed attention to them and only them. Frankly, I don't believe them, even though they share similarities to my own existence. This shit is not a fucking game like they treat it as.
@kansas8152
@kansas8152 2 года назад
What’s your opinion on that large RU-vidr who’s whole channel is about DID? I’ve always felt she was ingenious
@kingnekogon
@kingnekogon 2 года назад
@@kansas8152 Haven't looked it up. To be honest I'm much more likely to pay attention to the scientific, proven literature than RU-vid. Only reason I'm on this one is I tend to put info channels like Simon or SciShow on as background noise when doing housework, lol.
@annewandering
@annewandering 2 года назад
It always seemed to me that the people seeking attention are pretty much the opposite of actual multiples. The whole concept of multiple is more about hiding in order to survive not throwing themselves into the spot light. My deceased husband was. He did a pretty fair job of hiding most of his life till he was in his 60's. I knew there was something but could not figure out what til he 'disappeared' for a few months and people took over that were NOT the person I knew. As it came clear what was happening, and that took awhile, it explained a lot of his history.
@phforNZ
@phforNZ 2 года назад
Multiplicity is a little different though. We're not at war with ourselves. Ours is a ... more pleasant? experience than DID. Not a walk in the park though, but definitely preferable to DID.
@movingforward3030
@movingforward3030 2 года назад
One day we will find a way to pick up these differences with a unbiased test. Until then, you are in my prayers.
@carolgold-boyd9287
@carolgold-boyd9287 2 года назад
Although I found the subject of this video interesting (as I do almost all of this presenter's videos on multiple channels) I want to give a shout out to the sponsor. It is clear, from the multiplicity of sponsors covering certain gender-specific topics, that someone assumes Simon's audiences are male, or at least predominately so. This is not entirely the case, as there is at least one female fan, myself. This should in no way be construed as a complaint. As someone who cares deeply about the comfort, health, and well-being of the men in my life I am happy to learn that there are companies dedicated to these same goals. While I, myself, am not and never will be in need of the product advertised here I am happy to learn about the engineering considerations of men's underwear and how it impacts the aforementioned goals of comfort, health, and well-being. It has enlightened me to an aspect of human material culture I would be otherwise unaware of and thus added to my general knowledge of, well, everything. This is one of the marvelous things about these videos, often they impart information on not just one topic. Thus, what appears to be a single thing is revealed to be a system of multiples. Keep up the good work, I will be watching.
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