I really like the naming of "Soos". Because as you learn later, he's hispanic. Which you don't outwardly figure out until seeing his Mom. His name is a joke in itself. Because the characters will greet him with "Hey Soos!". As in, his name is Jesus; but he goes by a nickname. I like small details like that.
@@papilloneffect4015 yeah, that's what probably happened. I just assumed it was his name because Jorge is a spanish name. But they showed his documents once, episode 28 I believe.
@@tuzeds Im a little bit late but yeah they did! During his Birthday episode, when Mable peeked into his wallet, his ID states that his first name is "Jesus"
With that and realizing that the undoing process was only possible because they started when the mindwipe was fresh makes the scene feel way less like a cop-out.
@@pogfection787 Alex Hirsh originally wanted there to be a full episode of stan getting his memory back but scrapped the idea because the episode would be too depressing and wanted it to end with wierdmageddon.
Gravity Falls is a great show, totally grasps the concept of what Walt Disney said: Your dead if you aim only for kids, adults are only kids grown up anyway :)
@@alessandro3559 and most 2X year olds would sell there souls to be 16-17 again, that's just part of getting older. I'm sure when I'm 35 ill miss being 20 something.
Also, anyone remember that whole "ancient sins" scene where the taxidermied animal heads bleed from the eyes and mouth as the Lumberjack returns? Clearly Disney has got their priorities straight. :P
not gonna lie, pacificas parents having conditioned her with a bell like she is some sort of pet is one of the most psychologically fucked up elements of any kids show I've ever seen and I absolutely love it.
I don't think Robbie was ever meant to be liked, I think he was a cautionary tale of what Dipper COULD become if he continued to let his insecurities rule him.
My only complaint about the show was that I think Stan’s memories should have stayed gone or the sequence of him remembering should have been stronger as it felt pretty rushed
you should read the book in the book it says it took a long time and its very detailed to what they had to do i think the show just had to rush it because they where running out of time
@@jackcarroll40 no that is still a complaint for me. If Stan were to get any of his memories back at all, it would have ruined the climax for me. On a first watch, I would have seen that One Punch Stan scene as a "badass but sad sacrifice". After the episode, I would rewatch that scene, seeing at as a "this wasn't actually a sacrifice". If I were to record myself holding a gun saying "this gun is loaded" and I played russian roulette, it would be really dramatic. If I were to, at the end of the recording, say "this gun wasn't actually loaded", there would be no tension rewatching that. Even if the show would have said "After 5 years, we managed to get Stan's memories back," that doesn't matter. The length of the recovery doesn't matter. The fact that the recovery happened at all is the problem. Anyway, great show. I have fond memories of it.
@@markengamer5649 It took weeks of therapy and it could only happen when the mindwipe was fresh. The first part you've dismissed, but that being joined with the realization of the second makes the scene a whole lot more logical.
@@markengamer5649 For what it's worth, the recovery of his memory also heavily implies the recovered existence of Bill. If his sacrifice wasn't a real sacrifice, then it stands to reason that it wasn't a real victory either. There's some pretty solid evidence that Bill is alive in Stan's mind too
Alex Hirch mentioned in an episode that aired talking about the production that they planned on Gideon having a malformed twin attacked to him under his hair and that's why it was so poofy but they dropped that idea
Even though I love the ending. After almost three years. I still wish we got more episodes with Ford. He was my 2nd favorite character. And I wanted to see more of him. At least the real life Journal gave us some more informate. And the upcoming graphic novel hopeful will give us more.
I’m so glad this popped up in my recommended, back in grade 3 at school we hard diary’s to write down events for school and me and my friends made our diary’s look likes the 3 journals
Actually, the effects of the memory gun are reversible if you were to constantly try to restore the person's memory shortly after their mind was erased(it can still be reversed long after(like with McGucket) they were erased, but as time goes on it becomes more difficult to). In Stan's case, it turns out that the Pines family was doing a lot more to get Stan to remember who he was(Ford watched a home movie with him, and the others did things but I cannot remember what)but the show only showed the scrapbook.
I saw another channel describe it as, the memory gun erases memories until you experience them again. The reason it was made was to erase people's memories of the supernatural that they likely never saw again, therefore making it effectively forgotten. They didn't use it on things they see everyday so it's definitely possible it things only stay forgotten as long as you don't see/experience them again
I definitely agree with your point about wishing there was more to this series. I felt like if there was just one more season, or maybe 25 episodes per season instead of 20/21, so many more things could have been explored. We could have gotten more development with characters, like Ford and Pacifica. We could have gotten more monsters. We could have gotten a few more questions answered (like how the hell Bill got in Blendin's mind during Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future). But, I have to give the show credit for ending when it was still good, unlike some other shows. *cough Spongebog *cough
+angelofmusic1992 there were hints from Alex Hirsch about the tight schedule Disney imposed on him, mostly that he would have loved to have 3 seasons or two full seasons and a movie, as well as him talking about some of the cut ideas he had for the side characters.
The best show to watch after gravity falls is Rick and Morty, which happens to be created by Alex Hirch's friend. Gravity falls is great, but not when compared to Rick and Morty
Hirsch did a genius trick with the finale: In interviews leading up to it he said that the ending will be bittersweet, and he will maybe kill one of the twins. Then, when Bill caught the twins and went "inni meany myni -" I was shaking so hard... I'm sure he did it on purpose
I like the headcanon that Stan was lying at the end, he actually didn't remember them but he put 2 and 2 together and said whatever would make them feel better
I Remember seeing the promo on the Disney chanel, I was immediately hooked! I was twelve just like them and it was kinda cool to have something to relate to! I was struggling with the thought of becoming a teenager and related a loooad to Mable and I got to go through it at the same time. The episode of their birthday ( the final episode) aired on Feb 15, the day after my 13 birthday. I just remember how special this was to me, and how much Mabel and dipper helped me out. Idk I just needed to rant somewhere and no one will ever see this so whatever XD
Can you actually imagine though... if they ended the series with the last words Stan says "Heh, I guess I was good for something after all." Like, you and I would be in a pool of our own tears.
Northwest Mansion Mystery was also my favorite episode and you nailed every gripe I had. Felt like there was a whole other season in there and the sudden halt in development and even regression of Pacifica specifically was a huge missed opportunity.
There's a canon graphic novel coming out in a couple days featuring Pacifica as one of the leading characters. I have a feeling it will address this issue.
Something that made the show so great is that it was so interesting that you could write full and robust story lines in the past the past or present using secondary characters. Zoos and his Dad, Northwest Manor, Ford when he was lost, etc etc.
The biggest problem I had with GF is how the writers handled Wendy. She’s a great character, but she isn’t used that often as much (which I get and even respect. At least Alex and crew don’t force her to flip flop for comedy). And when she appears, she’s sometimes shooed away. I think part of that reason is that she isn’t as flawed, and more reserved character-wise as the others. Her ways, and personality don’t mesh well in a more comedic show like Gravity Falls, and would work better in another show. In a way, the writers kind of shot themselves in the foot writing Wendy.
Gravity Falls came out when I was 10. My twin sister and I always played together and came up with fantastical fantasy storylines on our backyard that we were in the center of. Dipper and Mabel were special to us because of a) how similar we looked to them and b) their adventures and closeness were a lot like we had imagined and we weren't used to seeing boy girl twins in television. We're 18 now and still reference the show to each other weekly
I have a twin and we felt the same way about the show. The 2 of us are even on Mabel's side in the series finale because we know exactly how she feels.
To be honest, I kinda hated the whole circle thing. It was built up for the ENTIRE SERIES, only to be thrown aside in a pretty cringy way. I was expecting a stronger twist, like Bill having subtly influenced the people that wrote the prophecy centuries ago and actually made him MORE powerful, or something. I admit the direction they took in was a way stronger conclusion, though.
Yeah. The actual ending is *better* but it means that they spend a lot of time building to nothing. Oh well. I guess the only way to resolve that would have been to not include the zodiac at all, but it was pretty fun to try and guess some of the less obvious characters as the series was running.
+FeatheredCrow Really. So placing the image at the beginning of every episode and having Bill Cypher mention it and several symbols on it by name aren't a big deal. Sure buddy, whatever you say.
The zodiac was definitely disappointing, but the show never did make a big deal out of it. You knew it was a thing that was there due to its brief flash in the intro and Bill's occasional reference, but it was never really built up aside from the very end when they were trying to use it. There's a difference between making a big deal of something and not having it come out of nowhere. I just would have preferred that it had done literally anything, seeing as we were made aware of its presence from an early point.
Memory restoring part wasn't unexpected. Remember that scientist who made the memory ereaser gun also remembered himself after looking back few of his memories (well for being it a last five minustes thing they do needed to speed it up a little). But it does needed few more episodes
I feel like Stan's sacrifice-undo works because it's part of a running thing with him. The show establishes that the memory gun erases all of what is wheel-typed into its screen, but barring excessive use it *only* erases what's on the screen. When they use it on him, what's on the screen is, "Stanley Pines", not "everything" or "full wipe" or "all memories" or whatever. Stan was erased, yes, but *only* Stan, not the rest of his family, and thus the memories of what they had done that summer would still be in his head only missing his own place in them and connection to them, and thereby it would be fairly easy to reconnect with in the same way that McGucket had started to successfully do (albeit with much more difficulty).
“I feel like Pacifica could have been a better romantic fit once Wendy rejected his affections.” THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT UGGG I SHIPPED THEM SOOOOO HARD AFTER THE NORTHWEST MANSION EPISODE
1.- That sentence is E V E R Y W H E R E and 2 i think a 5 year old could do this *get an audio software- download a file that has the a x l o t l sentence and find the reverse button
@Cotton Candy Kitty Also in the journal 3 book it shows that dipper wrote there was some vibe in the air (and in the limited edition one Mabel said “Roses are read Violets are blue I read what you crossed out (he crossed out the vibe in the air part) I’m onto you, Start combing your hair dipper” Also (I’m not sure if it’s cannon but) in the book where they wrote their own journal (dipper and mabels guide to the paranormal and fun is what it’s called) Mabel says in a page about shipping people that Pacifica would be a good ship for dipper after she’s gets over the rich kid thing and dipper says maybe Essentially there’s a lot of proof it’s cannon
A yes from me for Dipper x Pacifica. Even watching it as a kid I was expecting a romance. I totally understand why that was never included (not enough time, Pacifica's a brat, they're children etc etc) but it also would have made sense to fill the void from Wendy's rejection.... but now there is just a void in my heart knowing the show is over forever :(
Geoff being completely honest here you are bucking the trend in youtubers from what I've seen in that I can see genuine meaningful progress and growth from one video to the next. like each and every video I look and go this was the best so far, every single time so far. That's something I've never experienced before. Super glad the best friends mentioned your first whats in an op in passing as this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. keep it up proud of you ya shitbag
Also how fucking could you show that freaky ass courage the cowardly dog clip. That episode haunted my childhood dreams for years. i pushed that shit way down and forgot it but you had to remimd me damnit lol
+Ryan Dollenmayer Hey, editor here. Geoff's line was about kid's shows scaring me; it felt wrong to not show the Courage clip. As Soos says, good luck sleepin' tonight.
inside out didn't deserve the oscar, but it's the best pixar movie in years. teen titans go is pretty funny sometimes. Nothing like what anyone who liked teen titans wanted.
I accidentally started there, sort of. Not even the whole episode, just the final dramatic reveal. I'd seen my nephews watch the show and I'd seen a billion references to Bill Cipher, but I never sat down and watched anything. But while my nephews were watching a marathon, I was in the room when that scene played. And I was basically like "...huh, I think this is a show I need to actually watch."
I think Wendy being 15 is a little too young for her character. It's not exactly believable for her to be that young. Especially since her main purpose in the story is to be older than Dipper. As a 16yo, it's weird to think she's younger than me when her main characteristic is just BEING older. I think having her be 16, 17, or 18 would have made more sense in the context of most episodes.
Aran Testa well think of it from the perspective of our main characters. To a twelve year old and fifteen year old seems so much older. I remember as a middle schooler viewing high schoolers as practically adults who seemed so much older but now that I am one, this view has changed. I think it fits perfectly
Sixty degrees that come in threes Watches from within birth trees Saw his own dimension burn Missed home and can’t return Says he’s happy, he’s a liar Blame the arson for the fire If he wants to shirk the blame He’ll have to invoke my name One way to absolve his crime A different form, a different time
Kohga Mole From a code from Gravity Falls Time Pirates (the book). The code leads you to a website, where Dipper and Mabel meet “The Axolotl. “ look him up!
Gravity falls is an amazing show, but I still don't think it trumps ATLA in terms of story telling. As you mentioned, some parts in GF pertaining to character arcs and buildup were a bit rushed, and I feel like ATLA handled these aspects a bit better, giving it's story and characters the proper amount of time and space to fully develop. Zuko's character arc in particular is absolutely amazing and there aren't many other development arcs out there that can even compare. That being said, these are minuscule flaws in the silhouette of this amazing series and the overwhelming pros outweigh the far and few between cons that we somehow managed to meticulously grab from the show. Let's hope that whatever Alex Hirsch is working on currently turns out to be on par with or even better than Gravity Falls, he's one of the best creators working out there currently and I have high hopes for his future projects!
+Really loud girl +Really loud girl It doesn't just follow Aang's growth, but the growth of all the characters in the series. And it does a great job of doing just that! Story telling encompasses a myriad of different elements, the central plot being only one of them. If I'm not mistaken, what your referring to as "The Big Bad" is the antagonist/villain. I could go as far as to say that every show that includes some kind of antagonist that's eventually crushed at the end of the story is predictable. You know what wouldn't be predictable or linear? A villain that doesn't get defeated at the end of the story.
+Really loud girl Zuko was introduced in the very first episode. Although Ozai wasn't given an excessive amount of screen time, we are given all the info we need about him by way of his interactions with other characters in the series, particularly Zuko. You just aren't spoonfed all the info on his personality.
Alex may *say* the story's finished, but as it stands, Gravity Falls still has plenty of mysteries left, several characters had their big development moments cut (they laid the groundwork for a whole episode dealing with Wendy's relationship with her dad, Manly Dan) and I think I speak for most of us when I say that *we want more.* also I'm really cranky over the "see you next summer!" note knowing we probably won't get to see what happens next summer. so there's that. also also, why is Wendy so perfect?
AColonDashSix most of those issues were issues from the comic though (minus the stupid sex bit). Adapting KILLING JOKE was always a dicey proposition, though I thought they NAILED Batman and Joker’s debate at the climax and ending. On the other hand, most of the animated movies ARE good, and getting better.
Alex has apparently said about Wendy in an interview that she was "based on all the coolest people the crew knew", so it checks out that we all think she's a badass
The Golfballman Henry in the mines is actually a reference to a man who died in an american mine, named John Henry. Jimmy Dean wrote a song inspired by him called "Big Bad John". "The Ballad of John Henry" is another song based on the same story.
Okay, being a fan of old music and such, I'm well acquainted with "Big Bad John" and "The Ballad of John Henry" not to mention "Nine Pound Hammer", and "Legend of John Henry's Hammer". I even know the story of John Henry versus the steam shovel. To be honest, the thought never really occurred to me that Big Bad John might be referencing John Henry. That's a pretty neat idea! But there's a problem. John Henry was a steel driver working for the railroad who died because he overworked his body while competing against, and beating, a steam-powered machine designed to do his job. A very different end to the miner, Big John, who supposedly died (though not really if we include any of the sequel songs that were released) in a cave-in. Still, that's a fun connection to be made, for certain.
As someone who has grown up with a loved one with demetia/Alzheimer’s, the part where Stan lost his memories really affected me. I actually cried, especially when they brought back his memories since I know that can’t happen in real life. Love the show, but I felt like it was a bit of a cop out.
You have to remember is Disney in the end of the day - if you do the good, good things happen to you... something you probably can already tell by your Sleeping Beauty icon. If he kept memoryless that would send the "wrong message", the ideal solution would be more episodes so his condition would have been treated better.
Beatriz Zacharias Yup. Disney's gonna Disney, and they're strong followers of the "just world" trope. To me it also felt tacked on, especially with no explanation. Personally I'd have preferred Stan to simply have to start again with learning who everyone was and what had happened. More believable, and really drives home the impact of what a powerful sacrifice he made for such a desperate situation. (Bill Cipher is one of the very few Disney villains to strike me as an incredibly dangerous foe that must be taken deadly seriously. Seriously, I felt the weight of Weirdmageddon and what it meant for the characters and world).
15:18 Whenever I see those earrings, I can't help but think they're there to help portray Pacifica as the 'Anti-Pines' in a way, since they remind me of upside-down trees, like the one on Dipper's hat.
I mean, there is still the reversed dialogue that Bill has in his "last moments" that's basically a ritual to ensure he DOESN'T die, which may be a reason as to why Stan's condition was shaken off so quickly, but that's best left to Film Theory
Sorry, two years late but the Axolotl spell he did might’ve not worked because he spelled out Axolotl instead of saying it, and even if that doesn’t matter, the poem said “invokes” which is essentially appealing to someone. I think it could choose whether to revive him or not, it is a higher god ANOTHER NOTE, the poem said his crimes would be forgiven if he was revived, so Bill might not even be and Eldridge horror anymore
I agree. I wish that Pacifica had more episodes of development where she does serve as a possible new love interest for Dipper. It seems like they would work well in fact, since Pacifica was Mabel's rival that became a friend, and the fact that Dipper always mistrusted her until later on shows potential for romance.
Robbie did have some character development in “Love God”, but he never really changes throughout the series, and his conflict with Dipper never really gets resolved. Robbie’s an alright character, he’s entertaining at times, he just doesn’t get as much development as the other characters
Gravity Falls is amazing, no doubt about that but there is one thing I do want to mention about Geoff's review (please don't kill me): Bill always keeps his deals, even if it's in a roundabout way. An example's when Bill has taken over Dippers body in 'Sock Opera' and he smashes the laptop, because the laptop got so mashed up they found that it belonged to Fidleford McGucket. The twins never thought to look around it and focused solely on what the password may be. Sorry, I had to write this after Geoff said 'Bill actually keeps his deal to Mabel' which implied to me that he thought Bill rarely kept deals but he does in fact keep them all, even if it takes a tiny while to come back such as when Gideon is in jail (I think it's right before the finale) and says 'Oh wow, Bill really came through'. Also, when I first watched Gravity Falls finale I half expected Stan to be faking having his memories back but the more I thought about it and looked over that part of the episode, the less it made sense. The very ending where the twins wave and say goodbye to everyone still made me cry though. While Sock Opera has been brought up anyone realise Bill in Dippers body was talking to Ghost Dipper with Soos and Wendy right there next to him? What on Earth must they have been thinking with Dipper talking to nothing in a really creepy tone?
I like how the continuity exists and is planned out. In the first few episodes, you see Blendin walking in the background picking up items dropped in the future episode, The Time Traveler’s Pig. Also in the same time traveling episode, you see a fully unobscured Ford come out of the shack in a past winter- and this is the first half of season one. I watched someone watch it for the first time exclaim, who is that? It’s not Stan. Stan doesn’t have a cleft in his chin. And he was right. Also in various Stan flashbacks, you can sometimes see Ford with his face obscured. In the boxing flashback, he’s sitting in the back, reading a paper, boxing gloves on. I love those little details!
There’s also a great moment in the final credits of Weirdmaggedon that shows Dipper Clones numbers 3 and 4 in a tent hiding from the rain, as they rode off during the first episode of the second season, and they’re never seen again
Alex Hiersch was exhausted after season 1 production of this show according to some interview I forgot. He didn't realize how difficult it was to make the series. Maybe some parts of the show felt rushed because he almost gave up on the series due to how hard it was to produce. He stuck with season 2 to wrap up the series and please the fans.
I actually have a friend who is his cousin I believe. Not gonna talk too much about that because personal life and stuff, and they don't know each other too well, but they had a family meetup a while back and the cousin asked some questions for me. I've never met Alex, but he drew me a thing, took a nice selfie, and actually talked a little bit about why the show may have been cancelled. Alex actually really wanted to continue the show, but from what he had said, if i remember correctly (this was like a year and a half ago and through his cousin), was that Disney had a lot of rules on what a show could and couldn't include and wouldn't let him do what he wanted so he had to cancel the show. Even getting the gay cop characters in there had been a challenge because at that time Disney XD was very heavy on censorship. Second season wasn't supposed to be the end, which is why it was pretty damn rushed but still had heart to it. I think other sources have also gotten stories similar to this, but yeah. I'm 100% sure Alex hadn't just given up. He had said he really hadn't wanted it to end. Hopefully he can make other shows he loves. Seems like a great guy.
