State of Hawaii is horrible at getting things done. Privately funded high rise condos go up quick. Hawaii needs to partner directly with a private conpany to get a stadium built. Similar to how Univ of Texas got Moody Center built for free.
Everything gets built slower in Hawaii. All materials have to be brought in by boat and take months to get there. Additionally, the workers have a no problem attitude. No problem if I do it tomorrow, next week, next month… hate to say it, but it’s often cheaper to fly construction works in from the 48.
@@bayareadoghouse Yup, "a different pace" is such a nice way to put it. I am a Hawaii resident. It took 33 years to build the H-3 freeway. Now, it was a rather complicated project requiring a tunnel but still....33 years? We now have a rail system under construction. It started off as a 20 mile project, since reduced to 18, and began in 2005. To date, the first 9 miles have opened, and the rest now predicted to finish in 2031. Original estimated cost was 2.3 billion. Current estimation is 10 billion. Another ongoing project is the repaving of Pali Highway, about 10 miles worth. Construction started in January 2018 and was predicted to finish in 2020. Here we are in September 2023 and, you guessed it, still ongoing. Ten miles! I was in Colorado visiting my son in college, and they had a 6 lane highway being repaved. I understand it was 5 miles worth. When we arrived the first day, they had scraped off the surface material. Repaving started on day 2. By late afternoon of the third day, the highway was reopened WITH reflective markers and permanent lines painted in. Here, after repaving, they make crooked temporary lines, and permanent lines come 2-3 months later. Ahhhh....paradise!
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Correct! While Maui is a different island, it is part of the State, including funding. The stadium has 400 million earmarked, but the unexpected wildfire will undoubtedly need funding for various needs. That would pit a new stadium vs. Maui victims. And, with the way things are done in Hawaii, the 400 million dollar cost is likely to double and even triple by the time it is done. For the poor Lahaina residents, don't expect any kind of rebuilding soon. UH Warriors will be playing at Ching Field for a LONG time, assuming the football team survives.
They’re all OSU. Whoever told you otherwise was incorrect. Two schools refer to themselves as OSU and then there’s the other one that puts the word ‘the’ in front of their abbreviation (incorrectly, as there are obviously two others with the same abbreviation).
Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and San Diego State are leaving the Mountain West in 2026. And if Hawaii doesn't build the stadium soon, the NCAA will demote Hawaii football to Division II. Building the stadium by 2028 is ambitious. Their previous goals were 2023, 2025, 2027, and now 2028. H-3 Interstate was delayed for 25 years, and the Skyline rail has been delayed by a decade. People in Hawaii don't hold our breaths.
Uh football, downfall is because of Democrats leadership . Their miss management of Hawaii government policies which are a major reason. Making the university not having the money to support it's sports program, Also the high cost of living in Hawaii, people are out priced for showing support for UH sports. And the cost overruns for government programs, leaves no money for other things.
The deluded governor of Hawaii is waiting for a private-public partnership to build the virtual stadium. Of course it will never happen. As for CSU, give me a break they are not in the #16 largest TV market. Buckets of studies have been done showing that the lousy Rams are not a big deal in Denver.
Eventually, the only future for Hawaii in football is at the FCS level. Many island sports fans are in denial about this inevitability. They still think it’s the 1990s.
It would suck but it makes sense. No stadium, little fan support, best local recruits going to the mainland. I think Hawaii probably does need to drop down and go to the Big Sky Conference. Of course it will never happen.
@@RB-.- not true. If the program is losing money, it would make more sense to invest the 400 million( that would be used to build the stadium) in to the other sports. Schools like Wichita State, Pacific, and others have cut their football programs and have contributed their other sports.
Rainbow Warrior football was something unique, but we are entering an era where unique-but-fragile will not survive. Games at UH are simply seen as cost-ineffective by the rest of CFB. Travel is a logistical nightmare for UH and their opponents. The emerging superconferences will not entertain the idea of including UH, and I believe that we will see the return of regionalism after a mere 2 TV contract cycles.
I know this has been in the works for a while now, but a football stadium is the least of Hawaii's concerns right now. People and homes first, football stadium somewhere down the line.
Hawaii has a pretty food program depressed ginger I love honestly how u think these places and teams are going down when actually there not your more wrong then right when it come to your information get a clue deep dive a little more please
When Aloha Stadium opened in 1975, it was built with steel that supposedly rusted only lightly on the surface to form a "protective" coating. At least, that's what the salesman told the state. Now, you build a nearly 100% steel frame stadium near salt water (Pearl Harbor), and what do you think will happen? I've been to events there where there were small quarter sized holes in the floor, and you can see below! For the past several years, the Stadium Authority (SA) asks the legislature for repair funding, and every year it gets cut, so only minor repairs can be made. A couple of years ago, it got so bad that the SA had to condemn the stands, which forced the UH to expand Ching stadium, its practice field on campus. The SA and legislature knew the stadium was in poor condition, but the legislature kept restricting funds. For some reason, our legislature "hates" University of Hawaii football as it not only gets in the way of a repaired or new stadium, but also school leadership and even our choice of AD and coaching staff! But, when we went 12-0 in 2007 and played in the Sugar Bowl, they were all lined up for free tickets and a ride there.
@@spang9782 it’s unfortunate bc there’s such a rich football culture there. Hell 2of my teams last 3 qbs were from there not to mention a few other position players and I’m in FL.
Looking at that chart the PAC12 would be 64.7 average. The BIG10 would drop down as would the Big12. In fact, PAC12 would be higher than everyone outside of the SEC.
They literally just brought the video board over from the several years out of service Aloha stadium and are making a huge deal about it in the local news 🤦♂️…
OSU is the abbreviation for Ohio state, Oklahoma state and Oregon state. You are incorrect. Look at the Oregon state and Oklahoma state websites. The Oklahoma state football helmet literally has OSU on it. ORST and OKST are used to a lesser extent by media types to differentiate and avoid confusion.
PSU getting penalized by Pitt happened in 2016. PSU beat Ohio State, won the B1G, but the Playoff Committee chose Ohio State over PSU for the playoffs because Ohio State had 1 loss (despite playing one less game) and PSU had 2 losses. (Pitt & UM).
Hawaii had a great coach in Todd Graham. But he was too white... i mean... tough... for racist... i mean... "caring" disgrace... i mean... Senator Donna Mercado Kim. If only he hadn't hurt a part-time student equipment managers feelings by yelling at him (because he sucked; also, he was distantly related to formerly mentioned senator Kim) then Hawaii would be playing BSU for the MW championship every year.
Hawaii needs to either move their track or elevate the sideline stands and and use a retractable lower section to keep the track there. Stop waiting around for the state to build this stadium that’s been on the drawing board for years.
Teams will only want to play Hawaii early & late in the season. It would get tough to schedule mid-season, as few teams want to fly over the Pacific in the middle of a conference slate. This is why Hawaii being independent isn’t viable.
A lot of big name schools refuse to play Hawaii because of the travel distance, jet lag, and yes, the "distractions." I recall one team whose players were hurting from severe sunburns on game day. Nowadays, when teams visit, it's ALL BUSINESS! No playing around....at least not until after the game. As a season ticket holder, I've seen Hawaii defeat the likes of Alabama (pre-Saban), Washington, Northwestern, Michigan State, Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon State, BYU, and Houston. But likewise, we have to deal with that when we travel to the mainland but historically, we have wins against Washington, Nebraska, Oregon, and Illinois (Holiday Bowl) on the road. This season, we play Oregon at Autzen Stadium which is predicted to be a blow out. But interestingly, Hawaii is 3-0 vs. Oregon lifetime. But that was pre-Mike Bellotti years.
Dude, I live in Hawaii. We can kid ourselves about teams being “scared” to fly here. But prestigious non-conf opponents do come early & late in the season. It’s just that they can’t all come in that time window. They don’t want to fly out here in the middle of a conference slate. And that means an independent Hawaii team is going to spend most of the middle weeks on the road. And by the way, some of the wins you cite weren’t all that impressive. UW in ‘73 was only 2-9 & in ‘07, they were 4-9. Nebraska in ‘55 was 5-5. Bama in ‘03 was 4-9. Mich St. in ‘04 was 5-7. The biggest upset wins Hawaii had were over BYU in 1989, ‘90 & ‘01. The win over Boise St. in ‘07 was huge. But most of these other wins were over programs that had mediocre years.
