@@burner_boi no bro, what pokke did is correct and i think it will stay that way. Games is bad and the worst part is the gacha community hating it. Why would you invest in something that probably die soon? The amount of money needed to optimize the game is huga but people hating it and dont want to invest in the game. So yea probably die real soon
I felt the same way in Genshin and HSR for the first few weeks. We'll see when we start getting to endgame if the problem is real or just easy early game.
i dont get the "story combat is so easy i can do it without looking" thing, you can literally do that on genshin and wuwa and in hsr you just autoplay it
This game giving me alot of good vibes from 2005-2010 games, some how i feel nostalgia while playing this game. The vibes are like S4League, Phantasy Star, Getamped... hard to tell
Funnily enough if this game were released during the era of HI3rd this game will be a massive hit. Seems like they try to appeal the old HI3rd player with zzz considering the version "2.0" of HI3rd feel like a slog
@@abdulzaelani9954 I agree about current HI3, but I dunno about ZZZ appealing to its old playerbase. One big appeal for HI3 was its character designs and story. Story right now is alright (if using JP or CN VA) might become as good. But character designs are really bad compared to HI3. Altho to be fair HI3 character designs for the most part also fell off a cliff after (HoH) Elysia got released.
Hot take: I like the game. I went in like every other doomposter, no expectations, thought it was gonna be mid, etc. But it really just isn't that bad lmao. So far I really like the story, it gets yappy at times but whatever, so does every other gacha story. The comic pannels are funny asf imo, I think it's a nice touch. The gameplay isn't mindblowing like WuWa but it's still fun, personally I think it's a nice change of pace after malding on Crownless Hologram for 8 hours. I don't think it needs to be hard to be fun. That being said, I will admit that the enemies have kind of boring attack patterns, I really hope they attack more frequently in the endgame stuff. Most of the characters are kind of hit or miss for me, but the same was true with WuWa until 1.1. The designs aren't anything crazy but the lighting and effects on them really make them look good. I think it's fair to say that this is the best looking hoyo game (in my opinion.) The UI, while a bit confusing at times, is actually really clean, I really love it personally. The world looks really good too, I swear the game feels like a Persona spinoff, it's actually a vibe. Music is the best thing about this game though imo, the soundtrack hits hard, esp the overworld osts. Some of the vocal tracks are cheesy af (like the gacha ost when you pull an S rank) but they still sound good to listen to. Way better than WuWa 1.0 osts, even though I was one of the few people who enjoyed them. The game for me is basically an 8/10 so far. Not better than WuWa or Star Rail but it's such a relaxing game to play fr. It really is nice to have a game where you can just turn off your brain and chill, that's really all it needs to be. If I really want to mald and play harder combat I can just log into WuWa real quick. And then when I realize I have a critical skill issue I can come back to ZZZ and repeat the cycle. The best way I can describe how this game feels is like coming home and sitting on the couch after a long day of work. Except the "work" is the 5 other gacha games you spend grinding lmaoooo. I yapped a lot here but yeah. My opinion. Call me a shill I don't really care, just let me enjoy what I want.
Bunch of people hating because it's the usual jump on hate train trend for newly released gacha games. It's funny tho because the stuff that they say about the game is just copy pasted from someone else comment as they themselves dont know what they're talking about for the most part
it's actually same take as other constructive critiques, all aspects are very well done including the visual, story, voice acting, characters, animations and music. The issue really is the combat system. The enemy get staggered way too much and become damage sponge, it feels like playing a hack and slash PS2 game like Dynasty Warriors. Is this game bad? Not really, but it's not as great as it was hyped either. If the dev is willing to fix the stuff that players hate, then it surely will only get better from now on. So yeah, just pray the Dev is like HSR devs and not Genshin devs.
This is facts, the problem only comes when people blindly glorified this game and don't want to admit it's mistake which in turn make people annoyed. But on the other side there are also people that no matter what the game did right will always hate on it. It's always happen on big game, HSR, wuwa, etc. It's not a matter of you are hoyosimp or kuro bootlicker, these type of people will always exist regardless the game. I already feel sorry for the future of azure promelia and all other game that gonna release, they will face this kind of fandom as well
Straight up, the game is not bad, and it's absolutely overhated. Does the game deserve to be criticised? Yes, obviously, everything deserves to be viewed under a lens of scrutiny. But a lot of the things people are saying about the game is either hypocritical or just completely untrue. For example, so many people complain about the difficulty of the game being too easy. With how people are putting it, *_everyone_* should've already cleared Shiyu Defense's hardest level on 3 stars. But they haven't, because the game's difficulty ramps up as with literally any other game. When Wuwa first came out, there were also complaints about the story being too easy, but the community was reasonable enough to say "it's story content, so ofc it's going to be easy; we should judge the game's difficulty on the end-game modes". But for whatever reason, ZZZ hasn't been given the same liberty. Next regarding the characters, I have no idea why people are saying "the characters look like NPC rejects". There is such a diverse range of characters between the Shark Maid, the big booba engineer and the literal bear. Every character is dressed so interestingly, which includes the actual NPCs in this game. Seriously, people have been praising Wuwa for how interesting and well designed the NPCs are compared to genshin's default faces and outfits, but since _ZZZ is a bad game,_ I guess every character is just garbage design. I could keep going about how ridiculous and stupid some of the criticisms for this game have been, but that'd actually take hours off my lifespan. Honestly, I'm glad people don't like the game since it means they'll eventually stop playing; ironically, the people complaining about the loli and furry character designs are probably the most toxic part of the community. Some people just need to realise that not every game was made for them. If you don't like it, you can just move on, there's really no reason to complain about issues that don't exist. The modern Gacha space is so saturated now, there's surely something else you'll enjoy; you don't need to spend any more time on this one.
yah i mean it's like Hi3 and i like playing different games, although i prefer open world but sometimes i am to tired to play those kind of genres since there a lot of walking/exploration and also kind of repeated work or going to be a chore for me, i just play what i want to play a game on my terms, we have different cupt of teas so i guess people have reference so i don't blame them but i hate people keep comparing games just to start a drama
Yea man i agree! The more i play it the more I’m really enjoying it. I never went into this game with comparisons in mind or hater goggles on, I’m playing the game for what it is and it’s genuinely a solid game. However, the points that people make towards the combat being too simplistic are not entirely incorrect, the game doesn’t seem to have (as of right now) a high skill ceiling and who knows if that will ever be a thing in this game because that may or may not affect its longevity. A game like this needs a taste of complexity to keep players constantly thinking on their toes otherwise it will just feel mundane overtime but only time will tell for that.
I just think ZZZ is niche. And when you try to make a niche game geared towards everyone, it will catch a lot of flak. In all honesty, i think the game is fine as a side game, probably not a main game. Im around lvl 16 and i give the game a solid 7/10.
The problem is just people keep compare it to the like of wuwa and Genshin despite it's direct comparison is more like HI3rd. That make alot of people judgement skewed on the wrong aspect of the game. It's the same like hating chess being turn based game.... Like wtf The game is not perfect sure, and honestly as someone that like HI3rd I can say that zzz has both the good side and bad side of HI3rd which is just sad. Too many side mini game? Same issue as HI3rd, combat too easy and just add HP bar for stronger opponent? Just like HI3rd, the combat is flashy and smooth? Just like HI3rd.
@@abdulzaelani9954 yeah i understand you. But i think its also a factor when the devs kept repeating its a combat-focused game that puts emphasis on the hit feeling of the characters rather than the flashy stuff...tbh...zzz combat is just as flashy as any gacha game combat. I got rina and her lightning attacks are very bright and she doesnt have that much satsfying hit feeling, except for her ult. But hey, maybe other characters are different
@@abdulzaelani9954 .......Fail to address the the fact they advertise the game as "combat focused" right and some "technically" you will get whatever pulls they're putting in the ads, i don't hate the game but if they advertise the game as "combat focused" many gonna criticize it and compare it to other combat focused game Honkai,PGR,GI,WW. And we know why they did it advertise as "combat focused", rather than saying its a slice of life driven story with mini-games aka the combat,the hub etc.
@@abdulzaelani9954 My thoughts exactly. I have no idea why the first thing that comes to peoples' minds is comparing ZZZ (a hack-and-slash game) to WuWa and Genshin (open world RPGs). It's a valid comparison, technically, but it's obviously a terrible one-it's like comparing Breath of the Wild to Persona. ZZZ indeed feels a lot more like HI3rd or Punishing Gray Raven (no clue why people don't mention PGR instead of WuWa, when PGR is the HI3rd of Kuro Games and waaaay more similar to ZZZ than WuWa).
@@haku1145Because there's some idiot who said "Once the ZZZ came out, it will beat the shit out of Wuwa, and wuwa will be just ToF 2.0". Ofc people will compare it . Blame those idiot for triggering the other fanbase.
My thoughts on ZZZ VS WuWa gameplay is while I like WuWa gameplay more, ZZZ feels significantly less jank. The game doesn't lag or stutter, there aren't these weird moments where I try to dodge but my character just decides to do the walking animation leading me to get killed in the middle of combat despite being at full stamina, I don't have the camera freaking out on me, flicking itself 180° away from the enemy so I can't see what's happening before dying. I really would like WuWa, but it feels really hard to like it when the main draw is the combat and the combat has a lot of jank to it, so the more streamlined nature of HYV games are appealing + the vibes of ZZZ are a lot of fun.
wow 10 hrs in and still F2P , damn Pokke absolute Cinema if the endgame is like HI3 then it gonna be DPS check otherwise u will feels pain of not having certain charater or certain character type or status effect to fight the boss and has to malding with our sleepy face for entire fight. 😁
Bruh pls don't remind me of those time trying to climb myriad for the rest of my weekend just to get demoted in the last minute 😢 Fr tho, I hope they make the enemy more refined later on and not just increasing their HP and stat with no additional pattern whatsoever
@@ltk7309 bro tf this is the nth time you've commented this now 😭😭😭 how pathetic are you? we get it, you hate the game. how sad your life must be you need to comment this so many times. am i gonna play the game myself? most likely not. probably not until 1 year into the game itself and has already developed properly. i'm playing too many gachas rn and i wanna be balancing my time between games and life. like touching grass. something i doubt you do lmfao
i hope never seeing any wuwa fan ever again in my entire life after reading the comments. the game is fun. it's not gonna be another hoyo top-1 income, but will have its audience. fights are dynamic, but kinda get repetitive. not a fan of character design, but like how much life every one of them gets in the story. game polished asf (if we forget how much storage it eats up), not even once ran into any performance issues. love the persona vibe. def not gonna be my main game, but i will enjoy it sometimes. the hate is insane and undeserved.
I legit tried to give that game fanbase the benefit of the doubt but it really just seems full of haters with a massive hard on against all other gacha games, especially those by Mihoyo
I wanted a fun, casual, stylish and polished game and that's exactly what ZZZ gave me. I already have a 'main' gacha with WuWa, and a few side mobile games. It's exactly the kind of commitment I wanted, and I enjoy the character designs.
the game is meant to make casuals feel like they're so good at combat. Characters attack fast, Colored dmg numbers flying everywhere. It's hoyo game after all and they're still milking the casual market.
This situation is so funny cause everyone is at each other's necks trying to decide if this game is good or not and I'm just having the time of my life with this game, the mechanical depth of the combat is really fucking good, it FEELS good to do anything and the game is actually difficult at times. I dig the aesthetics, the worldbuilding, the music and it just feels soo good to be the target demographic of this game lmfao EDIT: About the game's difficulty, played absolutely everything in challenge mode always and the difficult is good. I didn't even know people thought this game was "mashy", cause it's just not true. Mtashed is kinda ret#rded for that take ngl, kinda feel sorry for that guy
100% agreed. The game has good depth to combat and is very fun and satisfying. Content creators like mtashed are just jokes, he played for a couple hours didn't even get past the interlude of chapter 1, and is making a sweeping judgement about the combat of the entire game without even coming close to endgame.
Yeah, a lot of the difference in these two games is that Wuwa really wanted to be a console PC game disguised as a mobile, so the mobile experience is diminished because of it. Whereas ZZZ is a fully committed mobile game, that you also happen to be able to play on PC/PS5. Which has the downsides of that, in terms of simplistic combat systems more focused on mobile touch gaming. But since it’s far more playable on phones, in the end on the most important platform for gatcha it is going to probably do better than games like Wuwa that struggle to run on many phones and even if they do are way too sweaty to post in a touch screen to skill cap.
@@satriareza7501 is not even about optimization, people with nasa phones still say playing wuwa on it is shit, combat is just not designed for mobile and trying to use the camera while fighting on it is terrible let alone doing perfect parries
The thing i like about ZZZ -the story telling is through comic like. Which feels new and much more immersive -the characters is much more expressive -we can see playable character appearing in the OW here and there -there r more NPCs in the OW which makes the town much more lively -billy is full comedy. The thing i don't like about ZZZ -i can't zoom out during combat. The combat screen on my character is way too close. I can't see any incoming attack from my back and my side. -the switching character is such a pain. Unlike old tradition where i can switch which character i wanted. This game u have to switch in order unless u r triggering chain attack but to do so it takes time. -when u r parrying u have to force switch. This makes it a pain since u need to switch back to ur previous character. Needing to press switch twice and when it lags u sometimes switch 3x instead and u ended up switch back n forth for no reason. -can't customize buttons. Sometimes i thought i pressed the button but instead didn't due to the button is small or sometimes i accidentally press wrong button cuz the distance between each is too close. -the TV please just erase it. Wasting my time. -the game for some reason feels like the brightness is too dark and i can't change the brightness.
Agree with all the cons except last two. I'm fine with tv and it's only in story and exploration so I'm fine. Good to see someone point out actual issues instead of saying furry or loli or zzz and then say game is bad. Game is good but with issues
Agree, i think the TV need more polished, honestly i quite like it when they add some action (like the one with bomb in belobog story). but mostly it's puzzle, and i dont like it
Customizable buttons could have been added, the problem with hoyo they gonna create new game and add the the feature instead, what about the old games 😢
The forced switch is suppose to be the better version of Hi3rd switch. Cuz now it doesn't have time limit. Basically everything the Hi3rd players wanted got implemented to this game. You can't just spam the attack & skills, trust me cuz it'll get much harder as the game gets older. Your basic attack & skill won't do much unless there's a bruteforce type character in future version. The switch also gives bigger dmg with better team based attacks than Hi3rd
Coming from a devil may cry nerd I think this game is pretty smooth with responsive controls and good control of your agents. Very good clear animations to see what your agent is doing in moment to moment combat and good sound design. It just needs to get harder with maybe more enemy variety and interactions but I may be asking for to much for the type of game this is
Devs said they plan on doing that for later patches currently the devs want us to get comfortable with the controls and all it’s combat system and it’s hidden combat mechanics. Also I reccomend you try to explore the controls of your characters and mechanics I trust you will find a lot of things that were not explained or shown in the tutorial.
As a DMC nerd, you'll appreciate this. Nicole has a hidden input that is basically like Dante's Pandora weapon from DMC4. With enough energy, hold the skill button and rotate the left stick.
I think the idea of them targeting a different audience is the perfect way to put it, and explains a lot. Not only does it mean that the "usuals" aren't being catered to, who importantly are usually the loudest and most vocal. It also makes sense financially, making a game focused on the genshin or hsr playerbase just means that their games are competing against each other, which doesn't make sense
One thing about Hoyo games in particular is that I don't have to worry about lag whatsoever. All of their games are optimized enough that I don't complain about dropping frames every 10 seconds.
This is true, but 1 thing I want to mention about that, it's because they stick on using Unity engine on all their game. Unity engine has been proven to be very stable for multiple device with multiple spec like Android phone and PC, this is why alot of developer using them. However in turn their game can't be as "flexible" as they want because unity kinda has its limit and restriction On the other side of the spectrum, we have Unreal engine, which is unstable on device with multiple spec, they are more suitable for console where the same console has the exact same chip and build. The trade for this is that your limit on unreal engine is much higher, the amount of freedom you want to do is much bigger than unity, this is why most console game using unreal engine Why am I yapping all this, its just because fun fact, wuthering waves use unreal engine.... That's the reason the game bug alot on release, and pretty much most unreal engine game has the same issue like that (take guess what other game use unreal engine.... Yep, tower of fantasy, that also has a big bug during launch and unplayable pvp). And another fun fact, last year during the biggest drama of unity (where they want to add extra charge to developer per game download), Hoyoverse once state that they will remake ALL of their game and make their own engine for the future and as you already know due to backlash (pretty much from every developer not just hoyoverse), Unity choose to back down and never do the extra charge, so people end up still using Unity to this day What I want to note here is that, remember that threat hoyoverse made? They probably still make their own engine anyway as a giant developer like them will get a ton of benefit if they develope one for themselves. And who knows when they gonna finish it, I already hear that hoyoverse already plan to make 2 more game titles recently and maybe they will come with "hoyo engine", and when that time comes, please don't be too harsh on them when the game release with alot of bugs, because newborn engine tend to be unstable
The TV stuff is actually a really creative way to do visual storytelling (since phone games usually struggle because they need to keep storage space relatively low) and it's not that bad in the SU mode, but holy shit they need to speed it up. That + make the fights load up faster, or make it so that stepping on fight tiles adds waves to the fight at the end, so that way you can do build management shit before to gear up for the fights/alerts you triggered by the end. Other than that, the visual presentation is peak for MHY. Everything oozes with a sense of style that neither Genshin or HSR has imo.
There is a "speed up" button on the top left when you do TV, but even then it's still feel slow just like how sped up button in HSR feel like regular speed 🤣 (if you don't find it, that's fine, that thing is gray out so much that it almost invincible, and the tutorial didn't even mention that thing exist) I agree on the visual part, the cinematic is up there just like HI3rd, feel like watching actual anime, to top it off the EN VA actually kill it (it's very rare for me to choose en over jp for game like this)
@@backpackpepelon3867That's why I said relatively low LMAO These fucking games are all massive. It's actually painful that I opted out of bigger storage because I was like "lol no shot I will ever need that much room on my phone"
This is coming from a newcomer to gatcha games and Mihoyo: I like the the game so far. I have never played Genshin, Honkai or WuWa, so I, thankfully, didn’t have any expectations going in. I mostly got into this game because of the theme, style, story, characters and musics. I also got the vibe that this would be like roguelike hack-n-slash game, with the addition of being of a team-builder. While I get that some are annoyed by the TV section, I don’t mind it, since it’s an interesting way to communicate the Proxy aspect of the story in gameplay. I just hope that the hate doesn’t tank the game’s future, making the Developers abandon it. :(
great to see you enjoy the game! just a tip: if you look into comment sections and so on just ignore most of it, the people are absolutely crazy with their crusades about which games are better than others and which games are terrible, just play what you enjoy and dont let these idiots talk you into other games that you maybe would not play otherwise
I've been having trouble sleeping lately thanks to combination of HSR & Wuwa (late nights grinding & clearing events). ZZZ helped by sending me to zzz just from playing it. installed the game, lie on my bed, try it out and after 30~ minutes of playing it i was knocked tf out and only woke up the next morning.
wow i did the same, i played like for 30 mins, and i uninstalled the game. i love the combat and the design but the tv screen loading all the time, i don't like it much.
things that I hate from ZZZ are the messy UI navigation, and how passive the enemy is even at challenge mode. Also imo ZZZ have deep combat mechanic but they are suck at explaining it to the player.
@chakaraninjaltc I am not talking about the design, I am talking about the navigation. For eg: Making a button on top right corner using left bumper on controller is not intuitive and confusing. HSR and GI have good navigation. ZZZ is almost as messy as HI3 on pc.
Wuwa story mode was braindead baby easy mode too, so I dont understand the comments that say "I quit after 2 hours because its too easy". Game is unreasonably overhated by wuwa players.
so far im digging through the story, just played a part of it and jesus christ, im telling you the cutscenes are SO long and so full of life, and if its not a cutscene then they have this drawn panels like a manga or a comic, so freaking cool if i'm honest, and although im not that much into furries the characters are so full of style, i mean ellen has such a cool design, the menus are ON point and the fact that every character has a draw of the constellations, aswell as different poses when you change them menus aswell as the angle and allat it adds a lot into the experience. combat wise, im enjoying it, i don't think its excessively easy nor excessively hard, the reason for this is bc i have my units underleveled on purpose, what i've learned is that on all these games raising your units before you know what they do or before knowing which one you like is a MASSIVE mistake, and all these games (even wuwa when you raise them characters and spam dodge) are easy once you know about gearing and leveling them up, so i recommend y'all keeping your units not that high level unless the content is starting to get somewhat too difficult, this way i can assure you the combat is fun, you actually die, and then when the combat gets even harder you progressively raise your characters, this way you save a lot of resources so when you choose who to stick with, and then the game is a little bit harder, i do this exact thing with Wuwa and i still think its easy, once you get used to perfect dodging or i frames in genshin any of these games become easy. the story is somewhat engaging, so much that i don't want to skip it (and i TEND to skip stories, specially with wuwa shit had me nearly sleeping so now i accepted that in THAT one game the story isn't for me and i just skip everything lmao), and its cool that they add a resume if you want to skip, thing that failed on wuwa, i mean if you finna add a skip button at least have me knowing wtf is happening, i swear i was skipping wuwa and then i was fighting scar, out of nowhere, and then i fought him again just because, thats a no good
Im Still gonna play it regardless of the hate, i like the voice acting, characters (billy is my fav), graphics and the story so far. Combat is decent, could be better. I guess imma have to check the next few patches before i decide whether quit or continue playing the game
Compared to GI 1.0, ZZZ is super enjoyable for me. Spending 50 poly a day to refresh also helped me a lot with farming mats, since we get 60 daily anyway. I'm currently running Corin premium team w/ Rina + Lyca + Butler bangboo (F2P btw) and the combat feels really really good.
That one guy in this comment that said the hatred for zzz steam from wuwa fans need to step outside. Not only is it basless accusation, it is also random af 😂
Thats funny because the hate also stems from GI and HSR fans...look at sekapoko, he uninstalled the game 1 day after launch and went on like a long rant about it.
Bro 70% of chat looks like hoyo shills, which is really weird since this is mrpokke (the guy who played a non hoyo game before, wuwa) we're talking about. Someone even said "zzz is goty, unlike wuwa overrated trash"
A Hoyoverse game is usually held with high standards and expectations. ZZZ advertised themselves as an action combat game, but all you get is TV gameplay 80% of the time and overly easy fights. Of course people gonna feel disappointed if it didn't meet their expectations of a Hoyo game. I think that's where most of the criticisms come from.
I feel like the game overall is pretty good music story and the other stuff its pretty polished but where it fails me is the combat I'm at lvl 22 rn and the tv system is just annoying like I have to solve puzzles for 10 mins to get 2 mins of actual combat. They should advertise it as a puzzle game instead of a combat game with how much time that shit takes in your overall gameplay. edit:checked my ZZZ in playstore today it says that its not supported anymore by the developer anymore so I gues I will zzz for real lol.
@pseudo_flame5424 it's not a skill issue on the puzzles it's just not necessary to add that. People complained about ZZZ CBT being the TV mini-games they hated it and wanted it removed
@@Niddy_Gritty what would be a good alternative? Have it be like when farming for mats? No tv, just straight to combat? If that's so, Hoyo needs to make the combat stages a lot longer (or have way more fights) otherwise I wouldn't see this working. People would just blitz through all the content pretty quick and complain that there's nothing left to do in like a week's time lol
No. Cause that's not what you'll be doing in end-game. The puzzle stuff is one-off during the story missions and once you're through those you won't be doing it again.
This is a decent argument, even back during the era of HI3rd and PGR the two devs (hoyo and kuro) actually never on each other toes, and they cover completely different fanbase (there are only small margin of people that play both, but they also quit one of them later on). And just like you said, if we go back in 2018 and below, PGR player base is not as big as HI3rd, because people that like difficult challenging content will always be smaller than casual. But at the same time, those kind of people will be very loyal to their game while casual player will switch game every 2 months give or take.
People are coping. They know they can't play multiple gacha games, so they shit on it to trick themselves into not playing and spending on the game. It's to save their wallet. And some act like those crazy football fans that go as far as assaulting minors when they are fans of a different team. It's mob mentality and blind haters that didn't even download the game.
I mean, does Pokke not realize that there will be more? Like every time we get new story, TVs. Every time we get more explore missions, TVs. The simulated universe refreshes, tvs. He said it like "once you finish them, no more tvs" 😂
@@crimsonraiderxv3422 no my point is that honkai impact 3rd might aswell have the most lackluster boring opening to 20 hours of gameplay known to man, nothing of substance until very VERY late into the game
@@crimsonraiderxv3422 ive given that game 4 tries, all very very good amounts of time put into the game and never in my life have i felt more like im wasting my time away. nothing about it is intuitive. people gas up this game for what?
I personally find zzz really fun and an enjoying it. I’ll probably keep hsr as my main but will be keeping up with this too. I think more people expected this game to be another hsr/genshin-like game when this is more like HI3, which I don’t mind at all
Is it overhated? yes Is every hoyo/kuro game overhated rn? yes When they demographics is literally the same, you cant really expect any different. Its just the old Kuro vs Hoyo banter but on a bigger scale
The 180 free pulls is a total lie. To get them all you need minimum 10+ hours playing OPTIMALLY. Nobody talking about this? When Wuwa said 100 free pulls, they legit give you 100 pulls. There is only like 20, 30? free pulls from ZZZ, the rest is from gameplay.
I got like 40 standard,20limited and 5for weapons on wuwa, can't recall exactly. But definitely not 100 tbf. The rest comes from leveling account, so is it with ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁
@@reedsad4652 Every news sources and youtubers screaming 180 free pulls are what people looking at. The game never mentioned it. It is technically free pulls but damn, It is totally different "free pulls" from what I though it would be. You know, like real "free pulls" from WuWa for example.
What people have to keep in mind is people who actively post on social media and make their opinions known are a small small fraction of the total playerbase of this or any game. I expect plenty of people are happy with and enjoying ZZZ and it will see success. Maybe not as much as Genshin or HSR but time will tell, I would be shocked if its not regularly in the top 10 on revenue charts.
No way it'll get close to Genshin/HSR. I think the visual style of the characters will be a little too niche for them compared to the overall more marketable waifu/husbando in those other games.
You can expect HI3rd level of income for this kind of game way down the line, which is still pretty nice income for a game, but there is a reason why there are not many that talk about HI3rd anymore in this kind of era
The launch went smoothly. The graphics are fantastic. People complain simply because they always need to complain about something. But Hoyo made a stylish game with a lot of potential. It will definitely make money. When Miyabi comes out, or a Raiden Mei.... they will make serious money.
Thank you so much for this video. I've always respected you, but now I respect you even more. This is the first adequate review of this game. Thank you, brother, for not following this wave of inadequacy
Fair point about the TV. Constant zooming in and out, screen shifting, and many random flashes is so migraine-inducing. When I closed the app, I felt like my chair is travelling. They could have made it like FGO's story nodes or just simply like their snake game, for a less overhelming animations. Snake game is also confusing when you respawn. By the time you recognize which snake is yours, you're dead again.
yeah, + we have to speed up the game each time we use teleport. I think it would have been 100 times better if overworld exploration in caverns was 16-bit pixelart instead of TV screens, it would have fit cassette era esthetic. Going through the same TV-screens get boring quickly, art direction was definetly a miss, gray nodes merge into one picture, it's TV screens for God sake why the hell they look so unremarkable, last time I checked 80-90s TV-shows weren't grayscale-dull.
I don't really get the hate, people mainly complain about the TV and the difficult, when both are not a problem in the endgame, like they are comparing the early early game with Wuwa endgame like wtf? Every boss in the main story of Wuwa is way too easy too. And the TV are story/exploration only, you won't be doing it in your daily grind. The game is so unique, a breath of fresh air in all these fantasy gachas, I can't really find a reason for this unnecessary hate...
Its defo overhated. We're in the early game right now (For crying out loud its been 3 days.). Nobody has had anything to do with understanding the game. Right now, the only valid criticism we can make with the game is not the combat, or endgame, but the early game. And right now, the early game has a fk ton of problems. It's suffering an identity crisis between whether it wants to be a puzzle game or an action game. (or even a persona game). This is left players confused as hell. Right now they just need to replace many of the TV sections with actual real world movement. The TV in lore is used for navigation purposes. Thats good. Lets use it for navigating, but anything more is excessive like it is right now. Puzzles shouldn't be in the TV mode.
The game feels more like an art project in the scheme of a game… if you don’t “vibe” with it, you aren’t going to like it… and considering this is coming out in a pre-existing community that don’t mesh with it so they don’t like it since it’s not like the other games in style… It’s a whole different audience as a whole that just don’t exist in the Hoyo game community…
Its not only that. Its a combination of 2 styles: the colorful punk style and the furry style. Gl finding an audience that vibes with both lol. But yeah certainly not going to find much of that in the wider gacha community where most care about husbandos or waifus or aesthetically pleasing characters.
@@sirmeowmeow7319 Uh it will get better in time. Just stick to playing other games if you dislike it that much instead of being another overhater. People like you with no decent device will always complain bout game size, unskippable dialogue yapfest, combat is unpolished/not challenging enough, TV mode is annoying (when it is actually a creative way of mapping) cause having no sense of direction in general is something I can't imagine for myself.
It's basically impossible to lose in combat. Yes it's fun, and action packed, but there is absolutely no urgency or threat of dying. I literally fell asleep for 10 mins trying to get a mission done on my late night grind. I woke up and my character wasn't even half dead. I still had 2 left. It's fun to play, but this game is way too noob friendly. It's crazy to me that you can't die.
if you play it in casual mode yes lmao challenge mode no, enemies can kill you in 8 hits and bosses in like 5, if you progress more youll see what i mean but yes casual mdoe is made exactly to sleep playing
The combat will obviously get harder. For now, it's basically a demo. It's impossible to lose in the first stage of HSR, but you can absolutely die in the later stages of Gold and Gears, or Apocalyptic Shadow, or Memory of Chaos. Combat starts super easy so you learn the system, then they release harder and harder content as time goes on.
@@wallacehoward2792 hsr was too easy as well. I quit after Seawolf came out. She made the game too easy. Honestly mihoyo isn't really making games that are challenging. They are just as bad as other producers.
I feel like ZZZ gets a lot of unfair flak for their marketing of being "combat focused"... but then people forget that the game is still brand new so if people expect it to be perfect and/or for the difficulty to immediately ramp up, right out the gate, then I think that's just some unfair expectations. For starters, what did people expect the marketing of the game to say? "This is just another casual Hoyo game, with nothing fresh to offer"... sure, that will attract players alright 🤣 Also, the other comparisons with HI3, GI, and PGR is already stacked against ZZZ. Those games have had some time to cook already, meaning they've refined the game over time. Now, the valid comparison would definitely be WuWa... and for that one, I completely agree that the overall combat in WuWa just feels a bit better. What I can appreciate, though, is that ZZZ seems to be leaning into the fighting games influence that it has... and having dabbled in a bit of SF6, I can see what they were trying to go for. Did it have the best results? Tough to say right now. Personally, I've enjoyed my time with WuWa. But if I were to be completely honest, WuWa was just a filler game for me while I waited to see what ZZZ had to offer. And, so far, it did not disappoint. And finally, at the risk of sounding a bit controversial, I've already had my fill of games that continue to showcase oriental/Chinese aesthetics (no hate, as I am part Chinese)... from GI, to HSR, and even WuWa. The heavily urban and/or cyberpunk feel of ZZZ is just the detox that I needed from all the gacha games I currently play or have played.
honestly let's wait and see what the combat is going to be like and how complex future characters are gonna be - i personally like how different it feels from other games coming out lately
I like ZZZ its very charming a lot of personality its catered to casual atm, but I think it will have its hardcore player moments in the future as we are currently inter-knot gated.
I find it funny that everyone complains that the game is too easy compared to WuWa. I guess they already forgot that WuWa was considered too easy for the first week as well. While I don't think this game will be harder than WuWa, I don't think it'll stay this easy once you reach the real end game. Let's not pretend like we can't auto the first 9-10 floors of MoC, entirety of PF and the story in HSR. Early game will always be easy, give it time and reach the end game before calling this a "baby game".
Pro: music, story, characters, comic cutsence and characters expressions Con: combat, cant zoom out, mobs are very passive, tv (ofc 90% tv and 10% combat) if this game is a action gacha game but 90% is tv then there is a problem
@@Aezthet1C all the bosses does have some interesting move set they are fun and challenging, some can repeatedly attacking, some does massive aoe attack and they hit like a truck aswell
ZZZ is not an open world, but to be able convey exploration within the story they utilize the tv as mini game. To me I like it that they make "exploration" as minigame instead of tp there tp here and walk a mile to go to certain quest area.
I don't think the community is divided. At all. You have the overly critical people, saying that ZZZ is utter dog-shit in terms of fun. And then you have the people that say the game is okay. And "Okay" doesn't really cut it when you have a market of games that are more fun. That's the issue. Sure, there will be people enjoying ZZZ for what it is, more power to them, but that'll be a rather underwhelming amount of people I feel like. Overall however I think it'll be Hoyo's weakest child and be below a couple of other Gacha-game and eventually fade into obscurity.
Well zzz has a heavy focus on swapping, like the swap attacks, parrying and quick assist. There’s no cooldown so you can always swap back to your dps easily (or use a support then quick assist back to dps). That said I do hope there’s a not swapping function when breaking enemies when I’m in the middle of the dps’s combo. Just waiting until the timer is gone is an option but that’s too slow.
Same, tbh. Unlike games like HI3rd and WuWa, which incentivizes character swap but let you choose when/how to use it, ZZZ is more like "random bullshit go". Like... swapping randomly by just smashing the atk/evade buttons is kinda boring
They had a massive, global launch on PC, mobile, and console at the same time, and as far as I can tell, had very few technical problems. It runs great, looks great, and costs nothing to play. People complain it's too easy, or there's not enough content.... and it literally just came out. They will add content and increase the complexity in time. For now, it's a stylish game that runs great and costs nothing to play.
I literally can't even install it on my device ( mobile because it says it wasn't made for my device) while genshin hsr and wuwa all work fine i have hsr and wuwa on the same time on my mobile 😢
@@josesolty if u dont know what u talking about rather be quiet the game work perfect on my old phone, its the optimisation issue from hoyo "new phone is needed"🤡
I’ve never seen so many toxic people in one video it’s so sad, this game is honestly amazing but y’all are so brainrot with wuwa,GI, and hsr that y’all can’t even give the game a chance, doesn’t even seem like y’all watched this review either.
I do want the combat to be more challenging and for the enemies to be much more dynamic, and for the TVs to be more interesting, but I’m loving the aesthetic, the art, the music, the writing, the voice acting, so much that I’m having a great time regardless.
I can take an early game enemy in WuWa, close my eyes and beat it. I can take an early game enemy in Genshin, close my eyes and beat it. I can take an early game battle in Star Rail, close my eyes and beat it. That is a no point. Also: comparing the TV with puzzles in Genshin is weird. Puzzles enhance exploration, which is one of the main reasons why people jump to Genshin. The TV does nothing for the ZZZ combat.
@@alexandrem798 That's an even worst take than the one on the video. No, this game isn't looking to "replace" things from Genshin. If something, exploration would replace exploration.
@@joseijosei It's not a take, it is what it is. The TVs represent the protagonists finding their way through (=exploring) the Hollows. ITVs are a 2D tile-based environment.
I mean just look at the UI. it reminds me of very old mobile games like angry birds or something. everything is very fat so even the fatties with their XXL fingers cant miss the buttons on their tiny screens. its made to be an omega casual game, even more than something like genshin
I play on PS5 and a 55" screen. Having larger text is great because I can actually see it. WuWa (and HI3) have text that is unreadable on my TV. Also, font size has nothing to do with "casual" or not. It comes done to whether or not you can see it on your phone, your monitor, and a large screen.
Nah, the TV still too much. Also it's not true that that TV only in Explore and Story, their Hollow Zero also TV heavy. Other than that, combat mechanic very polished (tho i wished they make it more challenging), artstyle are on point, VAs are great as usual and music are stellar. It's shame tho, despite having a lot of these strong points, if they keep on expanding on TV mechanic instead of reducing it even more or finding and alternate way as tools to drive the story, then i dont think i can play more of this game. It is just that much of nuisance for me personally. also, if you think about it, that mode is also just make the game even less interesting to watch on stream.
Too much yapping, here's the summary of this video: The game suckass but he don't want to say it directly because he don't want to risk his hoyo partnership.
ZZZ seems aimed very specifically at teenagers. The tone, design, and characters. Think of how you would make female characters to attract teenage boys. Those are the ONLY adult female characters. The rest of the characters obviously belong to K-12. It's not aimed at me, so it's no big deal that it misses me.
Purely looking at the combat, the game is super interesting and it makes a lot of unique decisions. Individual character mechanics are complex enough to support team comps centered around one onfielder while also being simple enough to justify a three man setup. The assist system being both a tempo swining parry and a way to extend combos using lingering hitstun is incredibly cool and fluid. If I'm being honest, this is a straight up improved version of Hi3's combat and it feels way more satisfying.
It’s a good game, that has the wrong audience. This game isn’t sweaty and hardcore. It’s also not some giant open-world exploration game like WuWa. It’s a very linear game that focuses mostly on storytelling and having fun with a bit of hack n slash in between. It’s a chill and amusing experience which is literally all I wanted from this game. If I wanted something hardcore I’d go back to Elden Ring.
If Wuhu is so popular, how come I've never heard a single thing about it's existence until today when everyone is talking about ZZZ? Crazy stuff, It's not even the same game. I've been enjoying ZZZ since the start, I like the characters, I'm enjoying the story, and the combat is entertaining enough to keep me going. People just want more of whatever their favorite game has and it's always different.
I've been having a blast with the game, but yes the difficulty and the combat/arena variety can be better. The style and aesthetic of the game is sublime, but the 5 stars don't feel that desirable. Hopeful with future updates/patches to improve on the things that are lacking.
People didnt like the beta and the pre-launch hype didnt exist. I saw this coming a mile away lol 40m pre-registers and the discord, reddit, and social media was dead (compared to other games) lmao
@@hachi_wasabibitch hi3rd is f2p hell,it doesn't matter how good you are with a character, you will never do good damage as a f2p, trust me, I'm talking from experience,I would have the latest s rank character,with fully leveled weapons and stigmata, but still can't do enough damage beceause I don't use their signature weapon,the only positive this hellhole of a game has is it's story mode and events, but other than that,the abbyss is shit,the Elysian realm is shit,the memorial arena is especially shit, overall 6/10 game(coming from a player that has played the game for over a year)
@@AdamDj-ic3krsame I have played it for several years and yes if you don't have the latest character with signature gear max out as well as the best supports also with all their gear its such a pain to grind honestly once I finished kiana's story that I loved I was done with the game I could care less about next part I just lost all interest in it
