Is It Worth It To Buy A Lord Of The Rings Commander Deck? A Magic The Gathering Product Review

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@TolarianCommunityCollege 10 месяцев назад

@skylermorrow4849 10 месяцев назад

I don't know if this'll be seen but I would like to known that the food and fellowship deck is a card short of being a full commander deck

@sfquigle 10 месяцев назад

This product would also be a great option for the magic equivalent of dice shaming. A wall of cards that have failed a player repeatedly (or an area at a store) would be awesome.

@dogthrutime 10 месяцев назад

@@skylermorrow4849 I also don't know if this will be seen, but if the deck has 98 cards that is correct, as partner commanders "reduce" your deck size by 2.

@johnsabilla5897 10 месяцев назад

I wish the professor does an "end of the year" commander tier list where he rates all of the commander decks that came out that year.

@leoandthefuture5309 10 месяцев назад

Great idea!!! 🎉🎉🎉

@supdrboblewis 10 месяцев назад

I'd like to see this, alongside a shuffle up and play of the best 4.

@dexteradao4186 10 месяцев назад

I agree and maybe livestream a game with the top 4 or 5..

@ChristianM1978 10 месяцев назад

Very good idea. Make it so! :)

@cristinbuskard9250 10 месяцев назад

Wonderful video idea!

@jointhetorterra 10 месяцев назад

To be fair with the original designs as well: the Warhammer didn't have an actual set attached to it, so they couldn't get away with only having 20 designs in a single deck

@gabrielamaro1470 10 месяцев назад

Additionally, 40K had a bunch of creature types and concepts that just didn't exist in the magic setting. It only makes sense that in order to properly represent a futuristic sci-fi setting they'd need to print more cards for it. But we'll see if the reduced quantity of original designs is a lasting trend.

@benvictim 10 месяцев назад

Yeah. The only sci-fi space theme before Warhammer was unfinity . So they needed new art to fit the setting.

@ArtistTech 10 месяцев назад

@@gabrielamaro1470 I do believe that its due to the set being included in the UB product this go around, and basis for that is the Doctor Who products which are also commander only will include 40 ( might be 50 can't recall ) per deck and that's again due to not having a set I believe

@steveheist6426 10 месяцев назад

@@benvictim Unfinity came after

@benvictim 10 месяцев назад

@@steveheist6426 Warhammer was released at October 7, 2022. Unfinity was also October 7, 2022 but it got delayed. It was originally slated for April 1st 2022 but got delayed due to supply chain issues. So they were released at the same time but unfinity was fished months before 40k.

@davidshiroky2932 10 месяцев назад

Reprints vs Original Designs feels a bit like a can’t-win scenario. If the deck is all originals, people will complain that Wizards is introducing too many universes beyond ‘staples’ into an eternal format. If the deck is mostly (even great) reprints, the deck is slammed for being lazy. As someone who isn’t wild about playing non-MTG IPs in my decks, I’m sorta glad to see more reprints here. All of this takes nothing away from feeling like these decks should be cheaper, but I’m actually glad to see fewer new designs here.

@johnmorton4750 10 месяцев назад

And all the art design is great too, so I don't have much to complain about there

@BobNinjaCat 10 месяцев назад

It isn't really a no-win scenario, though. Original designs can later be reprinted as magic-themed cards as WotC already stated they would when the Walking Dead SL dropped (which we're still waiting on, but y'know). There really isn't an excuse not to maintain the same level of original designs across the board unless there simply wasn't enough effort put into the set. I mean, look at the set mechanic of the ring tempting the player. Any time the ring tempts the player, there's basically zero benefit or consequences. In the LotR, the ring tempting its bearer had minimal benefit and significant consequences. The issue here is the sycophantic behavior of those who say this kind of bad design is "okay" cause it offends nobody and doesn't over-saturate the game with external ip's. What even is that line of reasoning? It's incredibly short-sighted and lacking any level of functional intelligence. If original designs are so offensive, do the smart thing and push WotC to reprint those designs as Magic-themed cards. Not that hard to arrive at that conclusion.

@a.velderrain8849 10 месяцев назад

@@BobNinjaCat Reprinting LotR cards in Magic IP versions doesn't fix the problem of introducing tons of new cards directly into Commander, which has caused tons of problems in the past. Think about problem cards like Hullbreacher, Dockside Extortionist, Fierce Guardianship and Deflecting Swat... all made for Commander cards that didn't go through Standard. WotC printing cards directly into eternal formats has a bad track record (the common complaint in Modern is that MH2 took over the entire format, and MH1 wasn't great either... Hogaak had to be banned, and Urza got Mox Opal banned). On top of that, you're completely wrong about the Ring. What negative effects did Bilbo suffer? He had the ring for 60 years and used it multiple times, and in exchange he was able to escape from Gollum, and he got an exceptionally long life for a hobbit in good health. You can even argue Gollum mostly benefited from the Ring, he lived for hundreds of years because of it.

@leoandthefuture5309 10 месяцев назад

I agree. Especially because we are before everything Magic lovers and not the other way around.

@mudvayne6987 10 месяцев назад

100% agreed.

@pdieraue 10 месяцев назад

Magic has elves. It doesn't have Tyranids. I really think that the reason why the Warhammer 40K decks had so many new designs is simply because the decks were impossible to make otherwise, not because WotC just wanted to pack them full of new designs. The Doctor Who decks will certainly be closer to the 40K side of things.

@pytawidmo 10 месяцев назад

It could have been Slivers with name-changing treatment. _(I'm still salty it was not slivers in disguise :( )_ Or just aliens / insect / beasts / mutant or any other 'kind of feels like it fits' subtype. _(yes, alien is a creature type in MtG)._ Like Hobbits are Halflings and Dragonborns are Dragons with a class. But I think GW wanted them to feel really Warhammer and forced WotC to include the trademarked names.

@leviponce7730 10 месяцев назад

That and Warhammer wasn't attached to a whole set they had to design

@The-0ni 10 месяцев назад

@@pytawidmo Im sorry but do you play 40k? Tyranids are not slivers…I don’t suddenly get wings and can fly with my termagaunts by moving a winged hive tyrant next to them. Just because you wanted/hoped for more slivers doesnt mean WoTC is gonna turn every new card into a sliver. Making Nids into slivers would be a HUGE flavor fail and if you can’t understand that then by all means ignore this post and keep praying for more sliver cards with the Dr.Who set.

@SimKill 10 месяцев назад

Why? Dr Who is a core set

@TheSpiritombsableye 10 месяцев назад

They have Tyranids now

@WCOBDisorder 10 месяцев назад

I really like how the decks come with a short description about why these decks were the color identity they are. Very flavorful.

@PsychophantFR 10 месяцев назад

I played my first game of magic today and it was so fun!! I went to the pre-release event that was held in my city to try it out and had a ton of fun. I may have gone 0/8 but it was super cool to see try and i will definitely play again some time. You and command zone are the only reason i wanted to play in the first place so thank you professor

@starmanda88 10 месяцев назад

Welcome to the game! It’s ok you’ll get better. Plus you’ll learn when people are pub stomping you. 💖😊

@DieFrauAmHerd 10 месяцев назад

Welcome to the community, you will get better, its one of the most complicated game for a reason, just keep at it you will win and you will enjoy the game more.

@johnr797 10 месяцев назад

One of us one of us gooble gobble

@acdvfb 10 месяцев назад

Had the same experience back in 2017. I had played back in the 2000s but caught onto The Prof and Command Zone early on. Playing more draft/prerelease events will help you with strategy and deck building, but commander can be the more fun route if you're able to get a playgroup going that has the same intensity. Good luck!

@PsychophantFR 10 месяцев назад

@@acdvfb thanks homie, I want to get myself a standard legal deck and start really getting into the game as a proper hobby

@Russian_engineer_bmstu 10 месяцев назад

One of the cons: if you get the wrong deck accidentally they will send pinkertons after you

@TMidander 10 месяцев назад

That definitely sounds like a magic con

@Mulletdog1 10 месяцев назад

True

@zometthecomet 10 месяцев назад

I live in the red and white capital of Canada 😂 They can try and get past the bikes

@jamsebarrow6167 9 месяцев назад

That wasn't an accident, but rather than acknowledging their own mistake, they rather threaten you by sending Pi despite taking measures to rectify it, especially when 2 decks share the same name

@Crimson_Fist 10 месяцев назад

I picked up the Sauron deck yesterday. For anybody else that did so, I would recommend running Saruman as your commander if you're playing it straight out of the box. As most of the deck is mostly noncreature spells, you can amass a massive army with him in play. You can get him out quicker and thus start doing things earlier.

@ThaMobstarr 10 месяцев назад

Just so that new player don't get confused: Amass means that you only make ONE creature token. You don't make a token with each trigger. It looks if you have an "army" token. If no, you make an army token. If yes, it will instead put +1/+1 counters on that existing army token. It won't make another army token in that case.

@zometthecomet 10 месяцев назад

@@ThaMobstarrI play all creatures get -1 -1 😂 no? I play a fetch card into wrath of god 😂😂😂

@commandercody8085 9 месяцев назад

thank you battle brother, the chapter approves!

@gareyysenpaaiii 10 месяцев назад

I bought and used the Food and Fellowship deck yesterday, aside from one game where my opponent’s just ramped way faster than me and I couldn’t recover, it dominated every other game I played last night. Easily could have won 3 in a row if I kept track of my ring tempt counter. Lost by 3 life and if I kept track, the last time I swung with Frodo should have been lvl 4 ring bearer and done 3 damage to my opponent and made all the difference. Can be tricky to remember everything but it’s a very strong and fun deck

@JacobLambert2 10 месяцев назад

I love the disdain on deck box comment. I would love it more if the deck box I spent a lot of money of from Prof would actually arrive.

@doom1153 10 месяцев назад

Played against 3 of the decks (except the elf one) and let me just say, the Frodo/Sam deck is crazy. It easily eclipsed the other two.

@chanic4621 10 месяцев назад

Are they out yet? I thought they didn’t come out till the 23rd?

@jasonr.2506 10 месяцев назад

That is the one I am excited to play the most

@HeGotTheBoof 10 месяцев назад

@chanic4621 If you go to a LGS you can usually get them a little early around prerelease. At least for me

@nicka.9057 10 месяцев назад

People on reddit claim that Amazon shipped pre-orders for the early

@kevinredd3354 10 месяцев назад

I can imagine. Just off Pre-Release draft games last night, one dude was running every Food Token generating card he could pull and threw it into a deck. He left early because he had stuff to do, but my game against him was hell. Generated 18 health off tokens alone and could not lose no matter how big I was swinging 😂

@BouncingTribbles 10 месяцев назад

I really appreciate good reprints. The effort taken to find the right rules for the right character or moment shows when it really works

@failfurby 10 месяцев назад

These deck reviews are my favorite ones you make. I have a fairly experienced eye when I look at precons, but it is always good to see what other highly experienced players are saying.

@corbenmurphy1807 10 месяцев назад

Prof, this is probably my favorite "Is it worth it to buy" I've watched! Seeing all the reprint names with their associated values was very helpful, and I ended up picking up a deck just because of your video. Thanks so much for your content and I look forward to seeing your deck boxes on store shelves in the future to support you some more!

@Beckola44 10 месяцев назад

I appreciate you taking the time to review the 4 LOTR Commander Decks. My sons and I each bought all 4 from our LGS. I can't wait to make some tweaks with these decks and play Commander. Thank you for the video Professor.

@gestalt1 10 месяцев назад

I bought and played Riders of Rohan out of the box at my LGS and won both of the games I was in that night - Humans/Knights/go wide is one of the decks I didn't have yet, hence picking that one, but I'm certainly not upset with it! Taunt From The Ramparts was an excellent player both times.

@TechtonixZi 10 месяцев назад

I always appreciate your work for things like this. I do plan to pick up one deck but I will wait and buy singles for others! Thanks again!

@cross_lair 10 месяцев назад

I think that they are saving the "Warhammer treatment" for the Doctor Who decks

@AlexanderBC42 10 месяцев назад

Idk what's worse the show itself or the art direction. ugly ass 'realistic' cards and absolutely horribly brainlet show.

@starmanda88 10 месяцев назад

I don’t get it. Why can’t they do that for every damn commander UB deck?

@nicolmanninc3578 10 месяцев назад

@@starmanda88 I think it depends on if you get an additional set tbh cause that's the key difference with LOTR

@dizzlegrizzle1919 10 месяцев назад

doctor who is garbage

@miekamariehodson1731 10 месяцев назад

@@dizzlegrizzle1919 your opinion

@AcroxShadow 10 месяцев назад

If only Wizards of the Coast weren't appallingly hostile toward its own userbase.

@dasilva552 10 месяцев назад

I went to proxies about one year ago and have no regrets... finally i can enjoy the game after years of paywalls. I actually can feel that I'm not playing magic like it's 2015, totally recommend

@julianperry4767 10 месяцев назад

I got a serialized 1 of 500 Pinkerton holo. At the cost of one mana they will show up to your house and beat the crap out of you for owning forbidden cardboard.

@comicgeekpunk7599 10 месяцев назад

As someone who buys playsets for 60 card formats, as a LotR fan the reprints in these are astounding. I’m blown away with many of these reprints, and am so happy to have Tolkien-focused reprints of these cards. I get the ultimate grade, but good golly am I stupid happy with this product. 🎉🎉🎉

@seanmcnallyactor 10 месяцев назад

Thank you prof. Was waiting for your opinion above all others.

@williamrodenbough5518 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for doing these videos I always look forward to them when new Pre-Cons come out.

@TheGeth18 10 месяцев назад

I’ve been waiting for this video! Now the next video I’m waiting for is the update/expansion/upgrade plans for Counter Blessings with these new cards in tow! 😊

@Guevon_Pajaro 10 месяцев назад

Bought the elves and sauron decks. Pretty excited to run these out. Thanks as usual prof! Useful info and analysis in these videos.

@codycarter7853 10 месяцев назад

The other 2 precon decks are also amazing. The Starter Kit has two more precon decks. Is this the first time a set has had six precon decks? A review of those would be amazing.

@darkmagedan2353 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely worth it. Me and my group played last night with all commander decks in the line-up, and it was an absolute blast!

@TonyAllen-kx4nu 10 месяцев назад

I really love that you did a check up on the prices of Warhammer 40K. Please do a check in on the price for sets more often, they are really helpful! I am looking into buying older precons now and found this very enlightening.

@mjjdj88 10 месяцев назад

Very excited. I have finally convinced my friends to let me teach them commander because of this product. Can’t beat that.

@NickSalvatoriello 2 месяца назад

The production value on this video is so solid. You showed and told me exactly what I wanted to know about these decks. Such a solid channel for MTG fans. Thank you! ❤

@RenstashMCDS 10 месяцев назад

Just picked up my Elven Council and some singles to upgrade it with the rest of the singles arriving in the mail Monday! VERY excited to have a fun Elf deck again :)

@Filip-uo2sq 10 месяцев назад

What they lack in original design they compensate with high value reprints and mana base never seen in edh precons. But I would be surprised if wizards keep that quality in the future.

@agentmoxie4715 10 месяцев назад

Was waiting for this one. Thanks, Professor!

@ezekielherrera4070 10 месяцев назад

I havnt played magic in years byt i still love watching your vids Prof. Hope you have a good day!

@thomasdehetre300 10 месяцев назад

Really appreciate how you compared the warhammer decks value to how they are today. It was quite eye opening

@PatKVoiceActor 10 месяцев назад

I just picked up Food and Fellowship. Thank you so much for this video!

@roccocat1000 10 месяцев назад

I just noticed your sub count, been watching over the years ... congrats on 845k!!! so close to 1 mil I can't wait til the day happens!!! grats on the 100% quality content.

@oom-3262 10 месяцев назад

I don't know if new designs is that much of a need tho- consider the slouch of flavourful but outright mediocre cards in the 40k decks. Plus you can't really compare them directly, since its more difficult to make real 40k cards: things like necrons and space marines don't exist in magic, or at least didn't. On the other hand, elves, golbins and orcs do already exist. I'd rather have them reprint good elves and goblins than to make filler mediocre ones IMHO

@robertneilson2780 10 месяцев назад

Thanks prof! I think I will buy this produt!

@atasin 10 месяцев назад

I really don't mind the fact that there are less original designs, I kind of like it in fact. There are already so many cards in commander, I do think the trend of less new designs and more quality reprints is a good direction to take, especially with so much new product coming out all the time.

@justinshaddix2775 10 месяцев назад

Been waiting for this video! Appreciate your analysis.

@goldenspiral6008 9 месяцев назад

This is gonna be my first time buying a precon deck and hopefully my first time getting into commander. As a cadual fan, I'm just excited for the collab, but it's nice to watch your videos and see what I'm getting in terms of Value.

@matheusfolgearinisilveira 10 месяцев назад

13:15 the audio explains one deck while the video shows the elf deck. Thanks for the video!

@rings-cn1yn 10 месяцев назад

Commander decks nailed the flavor of LOTR better than the Modern-legal portion of the set, that's for sure. I really appreciate how you continue to factor in new players, that's a big part of my own playgroup and it helps me a lot since I got all 4 precons.

@bmprosser 10 месяцев назад

Thanks - debating buying these and this was a great help!

@SirJamesIGamerfuzion 10 месяцев назад

While I'm not super heavy in this hobby as some but as a big fan of the Lord of the Rings I went all in on this set and I honestly do not regret it for all 4 commanders , 1 collectors box , 2 set booster boxes , 3 pre release and 1 Collector Gift Bundle not out yet and sure I may not gotten in of the cool numbered cards I did get most of the collection and completed all the scene cards which to me make it all worth it Being able to sit down and play a Themed Commander game with each of the decks was my favorite experience and I did use 2 of the pre cons in standard plays and actually managed to hold my own I think with of course a couple upgrades here and there it should be great

@vitran4141 10 месяцев назад

Been waiting for this review!

@Cromulorf 10 месяцев назад

Question Prof: would you rather have more unique designs in these decks or valuable reprints? Are reskins a la Godzilla more or less desirable?

@hackbug77 10 месяцев назад

I'd love to see more revisiting prices at release vs prices after the market has settled for these precons. It would be nice to see if it is a easily generalizable pattern.

@mcnishjr 10 месяцев назад

it was nice getting to see you this weekend prof.

@wulf1046 9 месяцев назад

I just got the Riders of Rohan deck really excited to braille them and start playing

@SingleLupus 8 месяцев назад

I picked these decks up back when they came out, but I'm dropping by tonight to leave a comment to let you know that your analysis of the Hosts of Mordor deck being just as viable as the other three decks despite its higher skill ceiling was spot on. At Friday Night Magic tonight, I piloted the unmodified Forces of Mordor deck, with Sauron in the command zone, against a pair of heavily modified precons (Prosper, Tome Bound from Adventures in the Forgotten Relams, and Anikthea, Hand of Erebos from Commander Masters), and an Elrond, Master of Healing homebrew based around setting up a value engine to execute some kind of infinite combo shenanigans (as Simic does). Despite getting off to a relatively slow start, and having my commander countered the one time I tried to cast it, I was still able to successfully pilot the deck to victory over my opponents with a little bit of luck and some clever play. There are some legitimately powerful tools in this deck that can absolutely swing games if they're leveraged properly, and even having my commander countered was ultimately irrelevant because I still got value from it just for casting it. Overall, a solid review video, and I look forward to seeing your evaluations of the Doctor Who decks when those are finally released.

@LedZesty 10 месяцев назад

Amazon shipped all 4 these to me almost 2 weeks ago. We've been playing all 4 constantly since. So much fun and can't wait to modify them once set boosters arrive.

@BlueJtee 10 месяцев назад

My fav mtg channel hands down, amazing breakdown

@coybackus7665 10 месяцев назад

newer player here: really looking forward to learning the evil deck. it may not be the best for the beginner, but there is only one evil deck :P

@aaronallen8257 10 месяцев назад

Love this videos! Thanks Prof

@sniff3000 10 месяцев назад

im so glad i preordered the food and fellowship deck just looked good gameplay wise. and my favorite colors!

@BillyMcBillface 9 месяцев назад

My friend got me Food and Fellowship for my birthday and we finally played it a few days ago against his custom deck. I’d never played commander before, and am still a relatively new player, but it played great and I loved the artwork! Certainly something I’d recommend to anyone else who is new to commander

@frisbeez1775 10 месяцев назад

Another good video! My big thought tho is that the reduction of original cards is fine if they reprint high value reprints like they did. Accessibility of good cards is a necessity.

@jaredbarton6161 10 месяцев назад

I played Elves against some decently strong constructed decks after prerelease and it's a house. Even if you don't hit curve right away it goes big pretty easy.

@sneakybeak4032 10 месяцев назад

As a new player to magic but with experience in other card games, i agree with you, so many other channels are dissing on Hosts of Mordor though

@Shishkebarbarian 10 месяцев назад

I loved the Warhammer decks, i picked up 3 of the 4 but they are fun as hell. i dont care so much about the value of the cards within as long as they are good cards and fun to play. To me the flavor is very important. I picked up all 4 of these decks for just under $50 a deck after taxes/shipping and I feel like playing them together with friends will yield many great game nights. The Mishra/Urza decks from Brother's War are hella fun to play against each other if you like MTG lore.

@pajurr9437 10 месяцев назад

Great video, thanks !

@cantremember6794 8 месяцев назад

Had brain surgery a week ago and my nurse played magic and he was telling me about it and hes got a hobbit deck. Little to say it made me extremely interested and here i am checking it out.

@Gershelf 10 месяцев назад

I got the elf deck, and I'm thrilled to try it. Though I am gonna switch up about 20-25 cards. I think it will work a lot better, if the big creature part is out, non-elves gets cut, and more of the new elves are added, to make it a Simic Scry Elf Tribal. There's a lot more to work with, with Scry, than there is the voting, and it helps stack the game more in your favor.

@felipeguidolin1055 10 месяцев назад

I wanted to do that, but couldn't justify the price

@Gershelf 10 месяцев назад

@@felipeguidolin1055 Just give it a month or so. Due to all the boxes being opened of basically everything in this product line, the prices on singles will drop harshly. It's already going down across the board, dur to an oversaturated market. You should be able to get the singles well enough soon. :)

@MrHardkohr 10 месяцев назад

Love your breakdowns...🤙

@AtlRopeGuy 10 месяцев назад

I built a display case as my coffee table to display my binder. Including a silicone seal and lip incase of spills 😉

@olist-vier1715 10 месяцев назад

You seem to have switched Riders of Rohan and the Elves lol. Luv your content anyway. Great job!!

@obadijahparks 10 месяцев назад

Will get mine monday.

@SingerOfW 10 месяцев назад

Man, I really wish these decks weren't triple the price of the other ones at my local stores. Guess I'll just have to make do with making some on my own, and luckily, the last few sets are in no shortage of cool new Commanders.

@michaelmiller5177 10 месяцев назад

I think the reprints will end up giving better value over time. There are countless cards that have a modest value, but slap a foil treatment and a unique run of art and the card can be exponentially more valuable.

@ervinlathrop7195 10 месяцев назад

So stoked to play the food and fellowship deck.

@blitzace-fr6fy 10 месяцев назад

Hi there! Great video prof, I'm just getting into MTG for first time and your catalog of videos has been immensly helpful not to mention fun! I love your sense of humor :) Played some MTGA but I've been looking to buy my first cards and play some games of commander either at a local store or online with spelltable. I'm a HUGE Lord of the Rings fan and wanted to ask if it's worth getting one of the precon commander decks (food and fellowship seems like a lot of fun) or wait until commander masters release in August and getting one of those decks instead. I always see you saying in your videos that buying singles is one of the best ways to build decks, so perhaps it's better to just buy a lotr precon deck now to get started and moving forward just buy singles later on as commander masters releases? Any advice is much appreciated and thanks!

@thrustssc 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for that Video! 🎉

@raizx155 10 месяцев назад

Btw you showed the elf deck while talking about the human deck. Apart from that great video as always!

@cristinbuskard9250 10 месяцев назад

As a newbie I really love having the cards all themed to have the same art feel / vibe. It’s nice to have reprints of good powerful cards and new mechanics. I know the game is about collecting and deck tweaking ect but as a new player I would love a hyper focused deck build for a precon. No “we’re running two different mechanics” One that doesn’t need a ton of upgrades with cards from outside that specific set release. And if that were the case then - I would love a commander deck where one artist has created the art for every single card. I know that would take forever but what an incredible, special deck that would be. I’ll take my artisanal commander deck please 😂

@TheSteve5154 10 месяцев назад

Friend and I picked up some pre cons today, he got food and fellowship and I got host of Mordor. They were a blast to play.

@chrisdixon7377 10 месяцев назад

I've been waiting for this

@_Tizoc_ 9 месяцев назад

these videos must tqke so much work to make. thank you.

@pytawidmo 10 месяцев назад

I feel like Hosts of Mordor are partially a reason why we didn't get an Orkz deck with Warhammer. I will likely build my own Orcs & Gobos deck though, with some of the boyz from the LotR set, close enough.

@danieldragotti2608 10 месяцев назад

Host of mordor feels like it needs sauron the dark lord as it's commander insted, and needs some mana fixing. I see it having the highest ceiling when tuned up

@Duskrequim 10 месяцев назад

EXACTLY... I also feel like they should have repirnted some of the War of the Spark Army cards to help boost it as well.

@StJimmy765 10 месяцев назад

Turning this deck into having an amass/discard focus with the Dark Lord as commander is the main reason I bought the precon

@Duskrequim 10 месяцев назад

@@StJimmy765 Yep... Im taking my Nekusar wheel deck and switching it over to this. Getting the Orcish Bowmasters and keeping the wheels

@12jacobmar 10 месяцев назад

That's the one I'm high on right now, it's buggy out of the box but good potential.

@johnnyreaper9714 10 месяцев назад

adding both Sakashima creatures to it would be very good and the obvious rhystic study and stuff like dig through time etc.

@alltappedout 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video professor!

@16philson 10 месяцев назад

I would like to see the prof do a comparison video of all commander pre cons

@richardthomas9529 10 месяцев назад

Great video Sir ❤

@elfaulkner84 10 месяцев назад

I love the new artwork for the reprints. I sadly can't buy the decks or single yet. I'm hoping Wizards continues this with the Doctor Who decks.

@mkainourg3502 10 месяцев назад

I believe these decks are almost a home run. Almost. It was literally the perfect opportunity to introduce archenemy in the format! So many great evil personalities that fit the description in the lore and even the good guys could get a crack at it by introducing the several different parties hunting for the ring! Each of those decks could have a scheme list to compliment it!

@LuuXorD 10 месяцев назад

I think they put less new design cards becouse they want the people to purchase some cards from the "Modern" list to this commander decks. There is a Sauron and other characters out of the precon that fits perfect with this decks. It's something that i think it's important to put that in cosideration, but again, Wizards wanting the players to put more money on its products.

@lietz13 10 месяцев назад

The 2 random card sample pack backs up this logic, just a tease of what else is in the packs that could fit in the deck without breaking the lotr theme. I got a Minas Tirith, really tempting to put that in deck for the men of Gondor and Rohan.

@LuuXorD 10 месяцев назад

@@lietz13 yes! In my case i've got "The Shire" and it fits perfect with the hobbit precon hahah

@Bobbybillybillbob 10 месяцев назад

Looking forward to building a Merri and Pippin deck, also turning that Bilbo into an Abzan lifegain would be 🔥🔥🔥 in that combo!

@leoandthefuture5309 10 месяцев назад

Merri and Pippin all the way!!! Absolutely thinking the same!!! Also I want to modify the food one to be so strong people are going to say “fudge all this food!” 😂😂😂

@kirkwright8954 10 месяцев назад

The food and fellowship is essentially already an Abzan Life gain deck. You could just buy this precon, modify it a bit to your tastes and set Bilbo as the commander. Should work great!

@MommieDovah 10 месяцев назад

Definitely gotta get a frameamajig for my new Surge Foil greathenge 👀

@sting94408 10 месяцев назад

thanks Prof!

@angelgaming8016 10 месяцев назад

I already ordered the mordor deck... I can't wait for it to come in

@aeyt4250 10 месяцев назад

When is that next Shuffle Up & Play? I’m so excited for it!

@bradenkropp7956 10 месяцев назад

Don’t really play magic much anymore but was going to build a couple of decks from the lotr set and go back and look at the 40k set. Lotr I’m build to themes of the different races like I did in the lotr lcg. Hobbit deck and dwarf deck to name a few

@hunterlippman9163 10 месяцев назад

If you throw the new phial into that food deck you can get some crazy ramp from sacking all your food tokens when you hit 5 health

@CarlosOleaSixtos 9 месяцев назад

I'm trying to get into commander or magic in general, would you recommend these or perhaps some other ones?

@limpec33 10 месяцев назад

Was really looking forward to this video since I couldnt really follow spoilers closely

@FenrirWerewolfe 8 месяцев назад

I love hobbits and lotr, and I'd love to make a full thematic deck with only lotr arts, but the precon but is a little pricey, and compared to when this video released the prices went low a lot. Is the precon still a good value, or should I order cards as singles or make a new one?

@pytawidmo 10 месяцев назад

While inclusion of cards like Reanimate, Heroic Intervention or Toxic Deluge is great and this should be the case for all precons, it's still a shame that the mana bases are rather "mid" at best. At least they included the painlands and checklands (at least the ones that did not have plane-specific names). But could easily get triomes and shocks, with in-universe name treatment same as box toppers for the set if necessary. Given that each color has land-subtype-cycling would make it logical inclusion too. At least one of those got a battlebond land, _it's something_ Why not one for each though? I get they wanted to avoid cards with names specific to MtG planes, but Bountiful Promenade is an easy fit for the Hobbit deck, Training Center sounds good enough for Rohirim, and Morphic Pool is generic enough for 'the bad guys'.dek

@Zaalbarjedi 10 месяцев назад

I'm pretty sure that they will print all battlebond lands in the upcoming Commander Master's set, they seem to be perfect fit for a rare land cycle there. Thus, they woudn't want to print a lot of them in these commander decks, as it would decrease the value of the Commander Master's set. And we all know that even a slightest thought of slightly reduced profit is a huge red flag for such a greedy company as WotC.

@rathlord 10 месяцев назад

It's been a while since I disagreed with you much, but I definitely do here. The reduction in original designs is likely better for the game in the long run, given the almost certainty that these cards won't see reprints in the future. And the quality of reprints in these decks is magnificent and should absolutely carry these into solid A territory alone. But beyond that, you somehow barely mentioned the land base, which is maybe the best of any Commander decks ever made? I'm utterly confused after so many years of (rightfully) pointing out how dreadful Commander precon lands were that you completely glazed over the fantastic lands in these decks. Really weird video for these- as I mentioned, I feel our views on things almost always align, but I would have without a doubt given these an A+.