IS IT WORTH THE UPGRADE? | Mizuno Pro 243 vs Pro 223

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The Mizuno Pro 223 is no more and Mizuno have replaced it with the Pro 243, building on the already impressive performing Pro 223, the 243 has increased MicroSlot in the longer irons to help produce better launch and more consistent Ball Speed. It has a reworked multi thickness Club Face providing increased Forgiveness from that of the Pro 223.
Is is worth the Upgrade? well lets see how the new one works compared against the old and see what benefits you will get from the NEW over the OLD Model.
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@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

COMMENT Below Guys, I will answer as many as I possibly can 👍

@douglasgardner4004 3 месяца назад

Thanks for doing this comparison. I picked up a set of used 223 irons late last year and am really enjoying them. Good to confirm that they're as good as the latest iteration. I do like that the 8 through gap are a one-piece forged club. I find them very pleasant to hit.

@petemajor4454 4 месяца назад

Great analysis as usual. Will be on the lookout for some 223s when I've sold my 921 forged. Picked up the 921s Modus 105 Reg, 18 mths ago, put in a cheaky low bid & won😎 Had lies adjusted to suit my 2° flat but never fell in love with them. Didn't feel like Mizunos I'd been playing. Out of interest picked up some cheap, half decent MP54s with DG R300 XP shafts a week ago & used them this weekend. The difference was night & day fell in love with the Mizuno feel all over again. Lie's are Std so had to start aiming a bit to the right. Being 34° loft 7i they went high stopped dead & about 3/4 of a club shorter than the 921s. How much was the shaft is hard to tell but I felt in control (almost) of my shots. Outcome is 921s are up for sale & I'll be having a fitting session before hunting down some 223's Nothing feels like a reel Mizuno.😎

@royjerm33 3 месяца назад

Seems like shaft was major part of the problem. My swing didn’t agree w the lighter weight 105g shafts as well

@petemajor4454 3 месяца назад

@@royjerm33 Might be something in my brain😁 Hard to explain but almost as though if its too easy to swing I don't commit, but if I k ow it needs effort I focus on whats required🤔 Demo'd some 243s with 105 shafts & light & strike was fairly consistant. Full shaft fitting required😎

@markboreham5258 4 месяца назад

Another super video!!

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻

@juanr.rodriguez3109 Месяц назад

Thanks for the video. I’m looking to upgrade only MP18 MMC 7-P, I still like and will keep 3-6 MP18 MMC Fli-hi.

@dropkickdrones4569 4 месяца назад

Thanks! Love the look of these. 245’s more my cup of tea.

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

I personally agree, the 241 and 245 design best suits my eye also 👍🏻

@etherblitz4796 4 месяца назад

Thanks again.

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏻

@dogankeskinkilic6070 3 месяца назад

To me MP 243 looks like MP 25 design. Super video Jay!!

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

Does a little doesn't it 😊 the Pro 243 is a super performing iron for it's size, very difficult to make it massively better than the 223 but definitely going in the right direction performance and forgiveness wise! The looks is very subjective and you'll get different answers by different people. Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻

@stephan5278 3 месяца назад

sticking with my 225's for now. maybe when the 263 comes out in a few years I'll make the jump.

@williamvandenbergh9296 3 месяца назад

Great review! A comparison between 243 and combo of ZX7 and ZX5 would be great as I have the feeling the 243 is sort of a combo set on its own? 🙏

@arturogonzalez-arquieta7882 3 месяца назад

I own a set of 223. I'm a 20 handicap and to me the 223 are very forgiving. Especially on toe hits no loss of distance. I am not a great ball striker but I still hit them very well. Very happy with the 223.

@petegalindez9961 3 месяца назад

I’m actually glad they aren’t much different. I started out with a set of MP221s when they came out…realized I needed help up top and added 5-7 iron in the MP223s and played those all through last season…my conundrum has always been I cannot hit large headed clubs so GI clubs are out…I strike it well but after two hip replacements and back issues, losing some swing speed over the years…so, for this year, I sold the MP221 set, kept the 5-7 MP223, and order the 8-PW in the MP224 to go with them…I really like that they made the heads slightly smaller, which I prefer. Hopefully they come soon!

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

Keep an eye on the gapping as the 243s have a slightly reworked loft and also head design so blending with the old especially old in the long irons may need some tweaky on the loft going forward 👍🏻

@petegalindez9961 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut will do…I do gapping sessions every few months and have a machine to bend lofts and lies, so am usually very cognizant of that, but will keep an eye out! Appreciate it.

@andrewwailes7858 3 месяца назад

Thanks Jay, awesome analysis. I’ve been patiently waiting for this one! Would love to hear your thoughts on either of these two compared to the Blueprint S. if you had to put one in the bag, which one would it be!? (ignoring the chrome on the S please!!)

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

I think it would have to be the Blueprint S being honest on balance, but that's just my opinion, people should test them all out to see which one they prefer 👍🏻

@andrewwailes7858 3 месяца назад

You’re dead right mate, I will hit them both and see if they are noticeably better than the MP 60’s but your opinion is highly valued!!

@JohnnyBoy4 3 месяца назад

Hi Jay, I have been fitted for these. Obviously only ever fitted with the 7iron. I am loving them first off, but I am not getting a great deal more distance from the 5 and 6 vs the 7iron. Very likely this is down to swing speed. Now I've made some drastic changes in my swing over the last 2 years but whilst making these changes I've never really swung out of my boots as I focused more on strike. What's the most effective way of increasing swing speed (assuming my strike is already great) Thanks! Edit: I moved from HMP as I just don't enjoy hitting such thick irons. I find the thinner face and softer feel, confidence inspiring.

@felobo33 3 месяца назад

I just got myself a set of 223’s in superb condition for 660€, I’m loving them , project IO 6,0 I thought I couldn’t be happier but then your video popped up and guess what ? I’m even happier , feels like I’ve saved 1000€ Thanks for your video Jay!

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

It's always honest and backed up with head data 👍🏻 glad you are enjoying your new golf irons 👍🏻

@felobo33 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut without a doubt !👍👍 By far the most in depth club reviews on the net , 70 shots per club it’s really more than significant!, and the different swing speeds and face impact locations , I don’t look elsewhere to find reliable and honest club reviews. Thanks for doing all that! (even if sometimes it comes at expense of loosing a bit your natural swing)

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

@felobo33 to be fair these compares aren't bad as I can swing my normal swing, it's when I do the single full reviews all at different speeds where the swing can go off on a tangent 😊👍🏻

@andrew_shell 4 месяца назад

I feel as if the only significant change from this range compared to the last is just the 245. I haven’t seen any pros in the 241. As for the 3’s I think the looks of the 223, smash the 243. Very interested in how these compare though. Great video!

@lkae4 3 месяца назад

If I had to do it again, I would still get the 243 because of the extra bounce and custom shafts. My only suggestion for Mizuno would be a 247 cavity option that is slightly bigger and even more forgiving than the 245 with the same thin topline as 243.

@scottclarke4330 3 месяца назад

I’ve had my 243s nearly a month now and I still haven’t hit a bad shot with them yet , so yeah they’re totally worth the money and worth upgrading to ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Mizuno Upgraded from MP64

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

Definitely will see a difference coming from 64s to 243s. It's the guys that have already got 223s that may or may not see a difference. The 64s although great clubs, put them up against the 243s and it's not a fair contest, especially on off centre strikes 👍🏻

@scottclarke4330 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut in all fairness I hadn’t seen anything about any irons that made me want to replace the MP64s they were just so good , the 243 exited me from the moment I saw them and after an hour with the demo ( 7 iron ) I was hooked

@kevintrew2299 4 месяца назад

Would you say there is a distinct difference in the “nothing feels like a Mizuno” between the 223/243 and the JPX Tour? Great video, really appreciated, as the 223’s and Tours are at discounted rates right now on numerous websites (even still in custom options at certain sites). I do know my custom fit spec, so logically to save a couple hundred £££ would make sense for 223’s but you said it….I just love shiny new toys😂. The dilemma continues.

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

JPX923 Tour feels nicer throughout the set than the 223 and 243s, the JPX923 Tour is 1025E all the way through with copper, the 223 and 243 are Chromoly in 7 upwards 👍🏻

@zittyrrrs7082 4 месяца назад

Ooh good question - I hadn't reckoned those into the equation 👍👍

@Ryglado 3 месяца назад

Is it worth upgrading a set of MP18SC?

@djmitch1 3 месяца назад

What's your background? You are so consistent I would love to know if you ever played on any mini tours or whatever...

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

Nope no mini Tours for me, the golfing world is just so competitive that going down that route would have drove me and the family insane 😊 teaching pro and Custom Fitting Specialist turned RU-vidr due to the amount of poor advice and fittings have been and still being run for golfers with limited funds. It's a minefield out there in a world of endless choice and many just after profit margins than ensuring the golfer gets what they need 👍🏻

@djmitch1 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut 100%. Well I was just wondering because I've seen alot of good ball striking here on your channel. It's like robot testing. lol. cheers, keep up the good work

@RajKumar-zm4ll 4 месяца назад

Hi Jay would be good to do similar test on 225 and 245

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

Already done.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K_qw1_KX15A.html

@Noone-dy7sh 4 месяца назад

I bought the 243s and I like them but feel that they perform better if the miss is on the toe side vs the heel. My miss is towards the heel so I am searching for an iron that favors that miss.

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

By the forgiveness data they are more forgiving on the toe than the heel for sure, although many are the same. The Srixon and also the Cobra are worth watching as by memory they are very good from the heel 👍🏻

@lkae4 3 месяца назад

I think most irons are the same. You could try choking up on the grip or maybe checking out Edel SMS Pros. Those can be configured for heel bias. But the sweet spot is smaller and they offer no extra speed. I recommend 160yd+ 7 iron carry for the SMS Pro.

@willadair6178 3 месяца назад

Cobra King Tour or Srixon Zx7 would be perfect for heel miss. Cobra CB also, but shorter heel to toe than the King Tour

@zittyrrrs7082 4 месяца назад

Stupid question... Mid teens h/c , based around being short but keeping it in play. Definitely not a blades player, but having had my Benross VeloCT irons for over 12 years. Would this sort of iron be the right place to look. Basically modern prices scare the bejesus out of me so I'm thinking the older set in a similar set up as my existing. Or is that bad logic. Cheers 🥴

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

I've done a video surrounding this...... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AnEnsLbcJfE.html Best way to shop for irons and narrow down the huge amount of choice is go by this very simple rules ..... How much forgiveness you need? How much help with launch? How much help with Distance? How much does Feel enter into the decision? All of those above will determine your correct choice in that order. Don't go by handicap as handicap is a measure of score and not necessarily strike consistency or club requirements 👍🏻

@zittyrrrs7082 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut Thanks 🍻

@markcroft2743 3 месяца назад

Don't you think the 243's look alot like the MP-25's?

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

Do they ever 😊 but without the Boron and with Chromoly. It's a stronger construction so they can thin the face better for increased ball speed and easier CG placement 👍🏻

@markcroft2743 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut thanks for the response

@petemajor4454 3 месяца назад

Pure chance but happened to drive past an AGD after making my delivery & popped in to have a look at the 243s in the flesh. Nice😎 Unlike previous experiences in some of their stores, I was invited to hit a few😁 Not to waste a free hit took them up on the offer. Chap asked my swing speed 75-78. Previous fittings had been 2° flat but they only had std or up. Have to say Top Line hits the spot as did my ball striking. He suggested Recoil 95 had following numbers:- Club 75 Ball 102 Carry 143 Total 150 Spin 6200 Attack -5° Path -1.5° Height 38 ft Decent 38° Range balls Trackman tweeked to compensate. He was concerned about decent angle & proceeded to try graphite shafts. Then offered Wilson Staff CB top line looked thick in comparison but felt same as 243s with same numbers. Also offered P770 looked wrong at address. Could it be lack of chrome😂? Question is do the trackman numbers make sense? Visually the flight & decent looked good enough to stop. By the time I'd finished did get 78mph 147 carry 160 total spin 6500, attack -5°, path 3°

@petemajor4454 3 месяца назад

Oops! Height was 38yds not ft 😂

@AskGolfNut 3 месяца назад

Hi Pete, I'll reach out on instagram to do the reply as it will be a little long winded 👍

@petemajor4454 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut Thanks for the chat today.👍

@markbatcho60 2 месяца назад

Have my eyes on new 223 LH set at 20% discount ....243 not avail in LH....

@AskGolfNut 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately not, it's the 241 and 245 for this model available in LH 👍🏻

@lanmurgatroyd9503 4 месяца назад

The 243 are definitely not well over a grand better than a current set of 223. Prefer the look of the 223 as well

@AskGolfNut 4 месяца назад

It is interesting with the 243s, really they should be seen as the updated 223 from a retail point of view. Make an already great iron a smidgeon better with a new number on it.... 243. It's not ever going to be marketed as a massive beater of the 223, but more so the new model so it can be custom fitted as before. Prices may have gone up a touch but that has as much to do with the component costs (shaft and grip) increasing than the head material costs. 👍🏻