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Is It Worth Upgrading a Vintage Mountain Bike? The Teal Steel Finale! 

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Today we're discussing vintage mountain bikes and if they are worth upgrading. We'll look at what they are good at, and some things they aren't so great at.
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@bagusalvin8180
@bagusalvin8180 3 года назад
26inch ain't dead ....
@NaeMuckle
@NaeMuckle 4 года назад
Saving anything from a landfill does everyone a favour
@hoya7127
@hoya7127 4 года назад
Man, I just did this. Bought a 91 Rockhopper to be my grocery getter. New chain, seat, grips, and I was loving it. Then a week later I saw the identical bike on sale for $60...bought it and now I bought wheels, cassette, rear derailleur, shifter, nw chain ring, pedals, and grips. Turning it into a 1x10. I blame the pandemic on my spending.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
haha the internet is a dangerous place when you're at home all day. I luckily didn't start any new projects during this pandemic, so it's kept my spending down. I hope you enjoy your two bikes!
@bryanotero123
@bryanotero123 3 года назад
@@CobraKyle i spent like $300 for a shimano deore 12 speeds components. Painted an 80's frame bought deore break levers. Ive spent like 500 already 😅
@Mrswissy69
@Mrswissy69 3 года назад
I’ve just upgraded a £22 Diamondback with new v brakes, lock on grips, maxxis tyres, new pedals saddle and bull horn bar ends.. Must have spent 5x the bike value but best fun I’ve had on a bike for years. And it’s f’ing cool! Note: I also bought a trials bike and hard tail bike this month which I’ve literally done the same thing with 🤦🏼‍♂️
@anielyantra1
@anielyantra1 3 года назад
I think vintage MTB's are the best value for commuters, street and mild trail. Converting them into a 1X drive train is a good choice as long as your okay with a freewheel gear limitation. Cantilever brakes are given bad press but considering the maintenance, they are far better than discs (unless you are doing actual MTB). I think you can buy a vintage MTB for under 100$ and put 300$ into it, giving you a customized ride equivalent to a 1000$ bike.
@ryanwilliams8512
@ryanwilliams8512 3 года назад
I have 2003 Kona cinder cone, converted to 1x10 full race face crank set, stem and handle bars. The most fun I’ve had on a bike.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Great bike! Something very satisfying about a simplistic rigid design.
@pennsyltuckyden9823
@pennsyltuckyden9823 4 года назад
I think it was worth it because you made it your own, and you can't find that in a store. Besides it's a really cool lookin bike, nice job, and congrats.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thank you! This bike is for sure a one of a kind at this point.
@djkenny1202
@djkenny1202 Год назад
I just bought an 87 in teal… u brake… its in nice shape. I’ll replace the pedals. What kind did you Put?
@ShutUpandRideMTB
@ShutUpandRideMTB 4 года назад
Teal Steel is like Cobra Kyle dating a much, much older woman. She teaches Kyle things he's never seen, and tries new things he's never heard (will it hurt?) but in the end, can't commit to her, but he does answer her very late night texts.
@MikeBMW
@MikeBMW 4 года назад
This.is.golden! :D
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
It's like you read my autobiography "Cobra Kyle's Ultimate Secrets to a Shameful Love Life"
@chumpmtb2554
@chumpmtb2554 4 года назад
Most of the gnarliest trails around me were built 30 years ago, and whenever I approach a feature that intimidates me, I find it fascinating to think about the guys that built it and rode it on rigid bikes with steep head angles, skinny tires, narrow bars, and all that crazy stuff. Here I am sweating it on a $7k bike, haha! It can be inspiring and dehumanizing at the same time 😆
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I was scared riding down those stairs for this video. I wouldn't even bring this bike to Arizona haha.
@chumpmtb2554
@chumpmtb2554 4 года назад
@@CobraKyle It blows my mind to think about people riding North Shore on those bikes back in the day. I would love to see someone make a vid where they ride North Shore on a vintage bike to compare it to a modern day sled.
@hubdeep9452
@hubdeep9452 4 года назад
Also just want to add that I've converted 26" wheels to tubeless using gorilla tape and been running them for about 3 years without any problems. I run them at between 25 and 35 psi and they are great.
@cannotthinkofaclevername
@cannotthinkofaclevername 4 года назад
I can't believe this but I literally just started this exact same project... same bike... same year... same colour! I was looking on facebook marketplace for an 80s MTB to restore and ride to mix things up from my Devinci Troy and holy crap when I saw the hardrock I knew it was perfect! Can't believe someone else beat me to this exact project (and put it on RU-vid!). So far I've stripped everything and just finished regreasing the wheel bearings. Hyped to get everything back together with all new cables and everything and shred!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's super cool dude! Sorry I beat you to the punch haha. It was such a fun bike. Just sold it a couple weeks ago. Hopefully you don't spend as much money on it as I did. If you got Instagram tag me in a pic of it when you're done. Would love to see it! @Cobra_Kyle
@michaelburstein2036
@michaelburstein2036 4 года назад
As someone who has a teal steel that my dad bought back in the 80s its an awesome bike
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Totally rad bike! Glad you get to experience one...especially one your dad owned.
@saipuakivikaupias
@saipuakivikaupias 3 года назад
I still have my 1988 Specialized Hardrock. I rebuilt it with period parts. Love that bike . . . my first mountain bike
@billle5159
@billle5159 3 года назад
omg that is me saying nice bike man it was downtown austin somewhere
@lcollingwood5959
@lcollingwood5959 2 года назад
I just found last night out for garbage, a 91 rocky mountain equipe. The green and yellow scheme. All it was missing was wheels, pedals and a seat. Post isnt seized. Im in the process of cleaning it up right now. Brakes work. Post adjusts smoothly, steers smooth. Save from a landfill.
@mikebennett146
@mikebennett146 3 года назад
Vintage mountain bikes are so much better than ultra-expensive modern mountain bikes. Not better in actual performance, but better in every other way like looks, simplicity, nostalgia etc. I absolutely love vintage mountain bikes from the 80's and 90's. I grew up in Ontario Canada, a child in the 80's and teen in the 90's. I have so many wonderful biking/mountain biking memories with my friends. We all had & rode these mountain bikes from that era. We loved our bikes and all the good times we had. We rode urban probably even much more than we rode trails. Some of the very best times of my life was riding around with my friends. It didn't matter where went or what we did, all that mattered was we were together, happy & free and loved our bikes. Sometimes we went camping in the summers with all our gear carried on our bikes. I'm 40 now and almost in tears writing this, nostalgic tears of joy. And old mountain bikes from this era played a big role in our happiness. Norco, Raleigh, GT, Diamondback, BRC, Yokota, CCM, Ozark Trail etc...
@fossil-bit8439
@fossil-bit8439 19 дней назад
What a great build! I just got into these older mountain bike builds. I tried getting into old school BMX, but the prices are absolutely insane! These are more reasonable and more comfortable for a simple ride the older I get.
@mattneville9560
@mattneville9560 3 года назад
I have restored and upgraded around 7 vintage mtb from the late 80s early 90s. Chromoly steel is only used on the nicest steel bikes today and can range between 700-1,500 for frame alone. So if you have the means and know how to restore and convert to a 1x10 with modern hub I highly suggest. The quality in the frames just isn’t there today unless you dig deep into your wallet! Ride on
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Great point! My hardtail is chromoly and it was way more expensive than this bike lol.
@balzacogarage5635
@balzacogarage5635 3 года назад
i am restoring a 1998 scott timber here in Brazil, it is an incredible experience to discover how good the bikes were already.
@brettkirkpatrick464
@brettkirkpatrick464 4 года назад
Great video and interesting series. I have a 1995 Hardrock that I ride almost every day. I appreciate its simplicity and versatility. Definitely a jack of most trades and master of none. Just like you, I got mine for $100 and then dropped $200 into maintenance. Am I upset? No. I am not a serious mountain biker looking to do gnarly drops or rock gardens. I just wanted a high quality bike for about what I would have paid at Wal-Mart. Rest assured that the lessons that you learned on Teal Steel inspired me to keep mine 98% stock, while getting the most joy out of riding it possible. I appreciate the shout out for Old Shovel, he does fantastic builds on vintage bikes. Thanks for the effort that you put into producing this video series!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's awesome! I would recommend these bikes all day for people doing light trail riding. I'm working on that GT for a friend, and watched an OldShovel build on a similar GT. His work is super impressive!
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 3 года назад
Oldshovel is an internet legend now... ! :D)) Seriously, any old bike with a "modern standard" i.e. 135mm hub on the rear can be made into any worthwhile project. 1x11 or even 1x12 (SRAM SX, SunRace) is possible, geometry from the mid 90's is very similar to modern gravel bikes and V-Brakes give more than enough stopping power for moderate usage. And they, too, are dirt cheap on fleaBay.
@johnnydoe66
@johnnydoe66 Месяц назад
Kinda funny that YT suggested this video to me considering Cobra Kyle hasn't posted in over a year. I had been watching numerous vintage bike builds lately because I recently built up my 1998 Barracuda XC URT frame into a softtail gravel bike. 1 x7 drivetrain, friction thumbshifter, Carver steel fork (suspension correct), Paul Components Cross Stop 3's front and rear, and a bunch of Amazon purchased parts. It rides so well as a 26" wheeled gravel bike, I am planning on riding the Katy Trail in Missouri next year on it, complete with front and rear racks.
@jasonw7053
@jasonw7053 4 года назад
I recently built a "vintage" mtb it's only from 1997 but still very similar, the main difference is that is has a cassette and a 1 1/8 head tube so that helps a lot. Was totally worth the few hundred I spent on it in my opinion, it makes me appreciate my modem bike way more haha :p
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
The cassette and head tube makes a world of difference. I loved having this bike to challenge myself on easier trails, but for anything else I gotta grab my modern bike.
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 3 года назад
@@CobraKyle Do you know that the old steel bikes like yours can be widened in the rear to accomodate modern 135 axles for 110/11s cassettes? (see RJ The Bike Guy). And there are quill stems for your bike dirt cheap on FleaBay.
@91rattoyota
@91rattoyota 4 года назад
I like new bikes, but I have a soft spot in my heart for the bikes that started the whole trend. I just got done restoring a late 90’s Specialized Hardrock fs, and I love it. I will be doing a cheap video on it soon if anyone is interested in watching it. Mine was inches away from being scrapped, and I just didn’t have the heart to see it happen.
@sirgilbert357
@sirgilbert357 20 дней назад
I would love to see what you did to it. I have a 1999 HardRock Comp FS that I was considering putting a 2x10 Shimano CUES drivetrain on and making it a gravel bike, but it would have cost close to 1,100 bucks in the end...it's for sale on FB Marketplace now, lol.
@ChrisCXK
@ChrisCXK 4 года назад
The Teal Steel songs are pretty great! I've witnessed this thing in action, its slightly scary but still pretty cool. I'd think someone would love to be seen riding this so they'll be asked "Hey, isn't that Cobra Kyle's Teal Steel?!" They'll have a trail talking point for years to come...and a sore taint!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I made a Teal Steel video once without the song and people were asking me where it was. I guess this bike is more popular due to it's theme song. It's truly unique, so I think someone would love to have this thing. My wallet is counting on it!
@mattkruger8412
@mattkruger8412 4 года назад
I was really into riding, maintaining and modifying bikes in my high school years (some years ago). I got more into cars through university and hadn't had a bike for a while. I found the prices of new bikes these days to be very high and that deterred me from getting back into the hobby. I decided to buy an older bike and fix it up to ride for a while just to see if I could commit to the hobby again. I got a 98 Kona Hahanna and made some modern upgrades (using all used parts). All in I spent $300 CAD on the bike and it rides quite nicely. I agree, for hard mountain biking I may as well just ride a road bike but for basic riding it rocks and it re-ignited my passion for the sport! So in my opinion... totally worth it!! Although, I will be getting a modern bike again soon.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Very cool Matt! Glad you found your way back to the sport! I like Kona bikes. Maybe you can get a modern Kona to go with it!
@Dantick09
@Dantick09 4 года назад
My first bike was a 1995 auto bike I upgraded it with 8x3 drive train and vbreaks and I love it. It can climb things you wouldn’t think it can and is a great all rounder bike.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I kind of wish I would have left this as a 3x6 cause I can only imagine how great it would have climbed.
@rolfaalto
@rolfaalto Месяц назад
I've gone a bit higher end with several top spec Titanium 90/00s MTB builds, with upgrades to top spec 00s components (e.g., 10x XTR). They are both fun and can actually compete with modern XC bikes. Necessary upgrades are a dropper seat-post and a high spec fork (which means finding a MTB frame with a 1-1/8 steerer), ideally adjustable like a 2010 Fox Talas -- with that you can hit moderate jumps with the slacker geometry, but then drop down to the steeper head tube angles for blitzing the climbs. With the fork upgrade you can also run a front disc, which is really all you need in terms of better stopping -- high-spec 26" disc wheels can be bought cheaply on Ebay. As for tires, if you get the right frame you have some great options -- My 1999 Moots YBB runs 2.5" x 26", and my 2000 Mongoose Titanium Pro fits 2.3" x 27.5" wheels, so plenty of traction and speed.
@bikermonster8354
@bikermonster8354 4 года назад
Yeeeehaaa, in my MTB Collection i've got 6 Classic MTB's and all are pure fun😎👍 I got also Roadbikes, Crossbikes and one Trekkingbike. Ride your bikes with fun, it does no matter what kind of bike✌.🤩👍 Best Wishes and Big support from germany
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's awesome! I'm working on that old GT I teased in the video, and they are a lot of fun. I have 6 bikes myself in all different disciplines. I just love all bikes! I appreciate your support, and especially cool you are watching from Germany!
@bikermonster8354
@bikermonster8354 4 года назад
@@CobraKyle there are many Bike Freaks like me in germany and we like to connect each other to a big community. Restoration or rebuild of old bikes is great. One You Tuber called "Oldshovel". He is a great Bike Restorator and in some cases he transform old bikes with modern Bike parts. Really great.. Best Wishes and support from germany. Or like Toogy Howser "Keep your feet on the pedals " stay well in this Times.
@trailhead743
@trailhead743 2 года назад
Restorations aren’t about recouping the money spent. It’s the love of the sport. I still have my old Rocky Mountain hammer. Love the bike. It’s not as nice as my crosstrail, but I’ve upgraded it, replaced parts and don’t think about the money. I’ve beat on it and it just asks for more. Great video.
@sumrandumguy7177
@sumrandumguy7177 4 года назад
Nice vid. I went actual legit mountain biking for the first time td with my brother. I was riding an early 90s specialized hard rocker zero suspension, (the bike is a few years older than I am), my bro was on a much newer (only 2-3 years old) aluminum hard tail mountain bike. Obviously my brother is a bit more skilled than I am (he’d been out 15 or so times), I can’t help think that the hardware we were on made a bit of a difference. It was definitely noticeable seeing him go down many of the considerably rocky/stumpy/rooted slopes with relative ease while he mostly was sitting down, while I struggled to maintain my grip of the handlebars as they would shake so violently. Obv I’m a total noob too, but still. Regardless, it was hella fun. Looking forward to going out again
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's awesome! Bikes have come such a long way since these were built, but I'm glad people still enjoy riding them. As you get better, it's fun to keep up with modern bikes on a 30 year old machine. It especially upsets people when they spent 2 grand on a bike and you're ripping it on a sub $100 bike haha
@Valiumtino71
@Valiumtino71 4 года назад
Fantastic! The teal is great! Just found a 91' Panasonic mc4500. Steel is real!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Steel is the best! Congrats on the Panasonic. Should be a fun ride.
@joshc8178
@joshc8178 4 года назад
I purchased a Diamond Back Ascent for $50, put on a new chain, new pedals, a total blast to ride around town and on low key trails. I have been considering making some upgrades similar to teal steel but in the end i enjoy the rigid frame, janky ride and a slightly out of true front wheel that takes me back to my childhood. Thanks for the video and giving life to an oldie.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's awesome! I think it's best to keep it how you have it. It's fun to have a cool throwback bike and sounds like you're enjoying it!
@joshc8178
@joshc8178 4 года назад
@@CobraKyle such a blast to take it easy and plan a line on the trail that doesn't throw me off.
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 19 часов назад
Worth buying one hell yes! Upgrades can get spendy sometimes though. I would say just buy a chain tires and lots of cables it takes a couple tries
@AKiDNAMEDLAX
@AKiDNAMEDLAX 2 года назад
My trail bike is a 50s Schwinn Cruiser on 26" balloon tires with a 2 speed manual Bendix coaster brake hub. It's so inappropriate for the stuff I ride that whenever I ride friends' full suspension disc brake jobbies it's like I suddenly sprouted wings. 10/10, would recommend. Definitely wear a helmet though, braking distance is about a quarter mile going down loose dirt hills, and when the terrain is too rocky, it's impossible to position the pedals to brake while also dodging and hopping rocks. Having said that, this build is rad! Currently working on converting a 40s Norman to 2 speed Bendix (duplicate to other hub, love that thing but modding it to negate the brake function) with a double chainring and TWO sets of rim brakes! Riding some nonsense like that Schwinn has me convinced that 1.) Brakes 2.) Low gearing, and 3.) Tires with grip are the only real essentials. Otherwise it's just a matter of practicing and being damned careful! Won't be taking either off more than a 3-foot drop though... Good trick to save money is to just buy cheap unusable bikes for parts-- everything I have is salvaged from about 6 different rusty and obsolete trash bikes that probably cost about $50 altogether Keep it up! Love to see other folks doing this!
@mattcameron9349
@mattcameron9349 Год назад
Older MTB's like this make excellent 'campervan bikes' (or 'RV bikes' for our American cousins!) 1. They're cheap. In they get damaged or stolen, it's not as catastrophic. Arguably much less likely to be targeted by thieves. 2. They are very easy to fix whilst on vacation. No suspension or hydraulics, just a (easily stored!) basic tool and puncture-repair kit. 3. 26 inch wheels are easier to store in a locker. They're smaller! 4. To some degree, they are disposable. Use them for the season then donate them to a thrift-store, and use the freed-up locker space for other vacation goodies such as gifts or momentos.
@anthonyharris483
@anthonyharris483 3 года назад
I have two old vintage Diamondback Axis TR with beautiful riding True Temper TT-LITE steel tubing that I upgraded to a gravel bike, 1x11 Microshift Advent X. It is an amazing riding bike even on off trails with 2.4" Maxxis Ikon tires tubeless. The frame bare is under 4lbs and complete is 22lbs. One has a titanium Kona Project two fork and the other a carbon fork. I just recently bought a NOS Dirt Research Kenai made with Columbus EL-OS steel and the frame weighs only 3.5 lbs so it should be very comfortable.
@Praxcycles
@Praxcycles 4 года назад
I love the looks and simplicity of this bike! I'd use it for bikepacking. :))
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thanks! It would make a good candidate for bikepacking.
@eltorito1011
@eltorito1011 3 года назад
I have an old Cannondale Hardtail mountain bike. I've been wanting turn this bike in to a full blown commuter with drop or bull bars. Seeing this project is inspiring.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
I considered drop bars for this, but I also had a road bike at the time, so went more MTB. You should totally put drop bars on that Cannondale and rip it!
@mistermatsuda
@mistermatsuda Год назад
Vintage bikes as a whole have a cool factor - interesting to see one in good shape or refurbished and upgraded. There's no cool factor in a low budget bike that the first thing you want to or have to do is upgrade the low quality parts. You'll end up spending more anyway.
@christopherwing8588
@christopherwing8588 4 года назад
Straight up, detailed, unbiased and entertaining talk about 🤘🏻
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Really appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed it.
@joepublic7692
@joepublic7692 2 года назад
I'm a professional and passionate mtb builder / restorer and it is simply a matter of fact that old-school machines are far superior both in design and build quality. Modernising a 90s frame always results in a complete monster of a bike
@rickcarroll90
@rickcarroll90 3 года назад
Just grabbed a 1990 iron horse they are starting to get more expensive a lot of people here in Maryland are wanting the retro look and to do exactly what you just did awesome video 👏
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
The Iron Horse is cool! Definitely seeing a surge in retro style. Hopefully the prices don't get too absurd!
@THEDANKFEED
@THEDANKFEED 4 года назад
My pops got an old bike one of the first bikes with rock shock forks I love that bike been in the family for years still rides smooth 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
@jackeyster5885
@jackeyster5885 3 года назад
The added dialog made this video worth of a like and comment for me.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@elwynanderson9947
@elwynanderson9947 3 года назад
I know the illness from personal experience. I dusted off my 1988 mtb and began riding it in 2020. Had so much fun I now own eight old mtbs ranging from a 1988 Schwinn to my newest mtb from 1993. I do have three newer bikes that I ride regularly but the old classics are a blast. If you are waiting for a bike I’d strongly recommend picking up one of these to tied you over until the new bikes are back in stock.
@ScottHolcomb007
@ScottHolcomb007 3 года назад
Great video, thank you! I was debating about my 1987 Diamond Back Ascent EX that I started back riding on city park trails last year. I was laughing at how much fun I was having on trails and then an older rider rode right by me with a new mountain bike with suspension and I was like, dang....
@steveprice9737
@steveprice9737 4 месяца назад
Still racing 26" , top end 90s stuff. A laugh thrashing around the woods getting the better of modern bikes , but raced in the 90s so can cope with minimal suspension. Still on 3x but might go 1x . The canti brakes are adequate in dry conditions... just. Good vid, buy a higher end vintage bike and tune it up, really rewarding.
@M3LTUP
@M3LTUP 4 года назад
Those old bikes are not great for bouncy trails. But they are excellent commuter or gravel bikes. The 4130 frame/forks are nearly indestructible compared to 6061 Aluminium or Carbon Frames. I have a 96 GT Outpost that i work on and ride around town. I will probably never sell it.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I like those old GT's. I'm working on this 94 Karakoram at the moment, and it's a sweet ride. These bikes are a blast for city riding. Almost like a road bike, but can take jumping off a curb a bit smoother.
@safidoesyoyo
@safidoesyoyo 4 года назад
I think what you did with this bike is incredible. I ride a 1998 giant Yukon and while it might not be much on paper, it has a lot of sentimental value to me and I'd love to give it some new life with some modern components if I had the funds.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I appreciate it! Enjoy your Yukon and upgrade over time, and I'm sure it will turn out rad!
@josephawatson
@josephawatson 4 года назад
i started riding a couple of years ago on a vintage steel bike like that one. it did ok at first as i rode more i needed more. It did give me an opportunity to learn maintenance and such.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Very true. I learned a lot about maintenance on this bike, and that knowledge has carried over into more modern bikes. I consider it an investment in my knowledge!
@richardcarbajal7800
@richardcarbajal7800 3 года назад
Teal steal tugging at my heart here. Born again 90's rider recently purchased a 97 GT Outpost for $75. New rear wheel, freewheel, New tires, new pedals, grips, handlebar ends, new chain, and the prize find, a barely used like new '96 original GT Supersoft saddle. Give or take around $200 plus the $75 I started with makes it worth to me. As long as you can keep the budget within reason these bikes are workhorses and a lot of fun. Teal steel a little over budget but a super cool ride.
@Abandoned_Brane
@Abandoned_Brane 2 года назад
Love the comments. I recently bought a 1986 diamondback ascent, the chrome one. Same one I had as a kid. I paid about $350 for it. Too much? Possibly, but I had one for sale last year I wanted to look at, but after the seller and I agreed on a time the next day, he texted me back a few hours later and told me it sold. He wanted $315. Now all I want is a light trail/bike path bike to drop the 40lbs that snuck up on me after hitting 50. 😩
@1pho3nixmatt
@1pho3nixmatt 4 года назад
My '92 Giant Rincon was my dad's first "mountain bike" and I've repainted it twice in the last 7 years, upgraded everything on it except the frame and fork, and it serves at least once or twice a week as my commuter bike. Mavic wheels (rim brake of course, and tubeless compatible) and a shimano xt m8000 drivetrain. Overkill maybe, but it is super reliable and still fun and gets me to and from work in the saddle.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's sick! Tubeless compatible is a nice touch on a bike like that.
@shannonkeller8003
@shannonkeller8003 3 года назад
Totally agree! I’m in the process of getting a 95 Trek 950 back on the trail! Strong work!
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 3 года назад
Dude!! I have a late 90’s rockhopper. What amazes me is that it is so much lighter than entry level mountain bikes like my daughter’s trek marlin. Yeah very connected feeling to the trail but also yeah, nut buster.
@ChrisFowskae
@ChrisFowskae 3 года назад
I just got a 1994 Specialized Rockhopper Sport in violet purple, mint condition! Only paid $75, and it's going under the knife for all the same stuff, worth it!!!
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 3 года назад
I used to grab bikes from bike shops that people donated and I'd ride freight trains and take my 1991 Marin mountain bike or Nishiki I Liberated from Boulder Colorado bike rack.
@francisdelacruz6439
@francisdelacruz6439 10 дней назад
In the 90s early 2000s 20ft drops are quite common for the serious MTB and the chromoly ones survive not so much the aluminum frames. How can it be done? How do you ride Red Bull trails now? With insanity and skill!
@dstromboli7945
@dstromboli7945 3 года назад
Thanks man. Spent $100 on upgrade parts for my 93' M400 Cannondale (tires, bars, seat, suspension post, grips) plus the $150 on a tune up. Hopefully my skill level will be up there when I upgrade to a full suspension after this beast. A lot of sentimental value though.
@MrRedPony01
@MrRedPony01 3 года назад
I put a 10 speed 11/38t flywheel and zee derailleur with a 1 up rad cage just for fun. It actually worked well. I had the derailleur already and the freewheel was $40. Might be worth looking into if you already have a 10 speed group set.
@outdooradventures1361
@outdooradventures1361 2 года назад
I love fixing up old downhill Enduro mountain bikes you can find them for a steel. Besides I don't have $6,000 to throw at a new downhill mountain bike
@peteryvr3329
@peteryvr3329 3 года назад
I have one of similar vintage; great for road and light trails. yes, not easy to go up hills on them. plus I'm restoring my "heavier" 70s 10-speed.
@wm21121
@wm21121 4 года назад
My first adult bike I bought myself was Specialized Hard Rock, it could be a sister bike to Teal Steel. I have kept it in working order, and about two years ago I went through a similar restoration process. I have a newer bike, but the Hard Rock is now my main bike. The brakes are the main weak point, but I went for 3x7, and that bike handles everything I throw at it.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
That's super cool! The brakes on these bikes leave much to be desired. I put V-Brakes on my friends old bike, and they stop so much better!
@Korina42
@Korina42 4 года назад
@@CobraKyle my old bike has Tektro Oryx cantis and Kool Stop salmon pads and it definitely stops. Cantis are a pain to set up properly, but once you get them right, they're super reliable.
@evanloudenback3700
@evanloudenback3700 4 года назад
Love the video, very entertaining! I'm half-way down the rabbit hole too, fixing up an old 1999 Specialized Hardrock. Great learning tool, easy to spend "just another $30" and find yourself out hundreds. Would do a new bike, but they're all sold out! Rim brakes = sketch
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thanks! I turned my eye to how much I was spending during the process of building. Super easy to get carried away when it only takes two clicks on the internet to get sweet new parts. I don't miss rim brakes at all! Bikes have come a long way in a relatively short time!
@carravagio16
@carravagio16 4 года назад
i got the best chuckle when you were riding down the dirt stairs, we have all be there where your entire body becomes a spring, ride that bucking teal steal baby!!!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
haha it was quite the harrowing descent.
@jp93309
@jp93309 4 года назад
Your video is rad! I just bought my Teal Steel last week, a 1987 Hardrock. It has different decals than your’s and came with the matching teal handlebar stem. It is the cleanest vintage mountain bike I’ve ever seen in person. It’s at my LBS for a tune to sort out a little problem with the shifting but it’s mechanically sound overall. I’m keeping it stock since everything works. Can’t wait to sport my aloha dad shirt, cargoes and wayfarers this weekend on it!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thanks! Smart move keeping it stock. Much cheaper that way. I'm guessing we talked on Instagram about this bike?
@jp93309
@jp93309 4 года назад
Cobra Kyle Yes that was me on Instagram.
@happyfreeliferc
@happyfreeliferc Год назад
I've put over 500.00 into my 88/89 Stumpy . Worth every penny !!
@erso3302
@erso3302 2 года назад
Crawl, walk, run. Get a full rigid for your first bike. Push the limits and upgrade when you get the skills.
@George-Kliavkoff4Big12
@George-Kliavkoff4Big12 2 месяца назад
I resto-modded a 97 Mongoose Rockadile (pre-Walmart). Cues drive train, Salsa cockpit with TransX external dropper. Nothing is original anymore. The only old components are the Marzocchi EXR Pro fork, XT V brakes and Salsa Delgado rims. No longer a trail terror as I have newer bikes for that, but I ride it daily around the neighborhood and urban group rides. Get a lot compliments on it. Don't ask what the cost was to upgrade. I rationalize with myself that its not about the cost of the build but the journey. ha ha.
@jeremystig98
@jeremystig98 3 года назад
I bought an old rockhopper and the chain dropped while going hard. My foot slipped off the pedals and i jammed my leg into the big chainring. So much for my confidence being killed with old gear. Everything was adjusted properly. I think with a modern mtb this wouldnt have happened, unless the derailliour is adjusted like complete crap. I think old bikes are good enough for easy flowy trails, gravel and crusing. But i took it a bit too serious and immediately hurt myself haha. It probably needs a new chain, chainring, derailliour and shifters to make it stop slipping and coming off in hard terrain. I learned my lesson. I also own a vintage roadbike but it seems to handle abuse better. Smoother roads also make for less rattling haha. I never experienced a dropped chain on a roadbike.
@trimmerman1
@trimmerman1 4 года назад
I started riding again @55 about 5 years ago. I bought a Kawahara Impulse MTB and the parts to fix it from a local dealer. I enjoyed the bike for a few years. I still have the bike but it needs so many parts that I am having a bit of trouble justifying the expense, and as I have other bikes now? Well you know. It is so easy to carried away with a build. You can modernize an old bike. A shock fork with hydraulic brakes will do wonders, but it is still an old bike. I have a serious new MTB now. For some rides it takes everything that bike has. Going back to V-brakes for a steep hill, not me. For casual riding, any bike will work. However, if you want to do extreme riding, it's best to acquire suitable equipment.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Welcome back to riding and thanks for sharing your story! As cool as these old bikes are, mountain bikes have come a long way in the past 20 years. I wonder if bikes 20 years from now will make our modern bikes feel obsolete?
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 3 года назад
The new color scheme makes it perfect for cruising along boulevards in Miami Beach. :)
@thomashowell3214
@thomashowell3214 4 года назад
Awesome Video Cobra! A lot of great information here! Teal Steel really is a beautiful classic!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thanks Thomas. People will be saying that about your GT soon!
@RobBastien
@RobBastien 4 года назад
Hey Kyle, I did the exact same project, for the same reasons and my steel rig, just sat there too! Now, I can't even sell it, I'd loose too much money.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
These old bikes are truly a double edged sword.
@MrZombieTurds
@MrZombieTurds 3 года назад
I found an old mountain bike by a dumpster nearby. Going to upgrade it over the next few months😎.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Very cool find! Have fun bringing it back to life!
@paulcolllins9750
@paulcolllins9750 Год назад
I love vintage Mtn. Bikes! I have to many & always end up with too much money into them.
@RossPotts
@RossPotts 3 года назад
Luckily, the Diamondback Topanga I saved from a dumpster has only cost me like $300. But yeah, tools and crap to work on a bike, I’m not gonna even count. I’m afraid to! Definitely agree with how different a bike is now with all its suspension. I definitely learned a lot. Local bike shop was impressed when I brought it in for a tune (I’m in a hurry for a trip)
@shawnwakeman6324
@shawnwakeman6324 4 года назад
Hey, thank you for the video. All that I have are old vintage steel mountain bikes. And I love your honesty. I think I’ve had a hard time putting into words the pros and cons the way you have done. Thank you for the perspective. I will send my friends your way if they ask me if they should build up a vintage mountain bicycle.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I appreciate the kind words Shawn!
@masongates246
@masongates246 4 года назад
thanks for the video. I am personally working on a Giant Iguana from 1994 i just LOVE that mid 90's geometry .
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Sweet! Seems like these old bikes are still very popular. Been getting lots of comments about everyone's builds!
@billle5159
@billle5159 3 года назад
bout to buy a 95 hardrock in great shape for 125
@Emilio0587
@Emilio0587 2 года назад
Awesome build, if you intend on keeping the bike for you to keep for a long time I say spend as much as you want. But your right, you’ll never see that money back at resale so keep it and give it to your kids.
@JP-vh1bn
@JP-vh1bn 3 года назад
Haha from what I've found my recent purchase is a 1991 Giant Butte. I considered a fork upgrade... until I watched this video. Think I'll just ride it til I'm bored going through the neighborhood. I think I spent too much. Haha
@jasweb147
@jasweb147 9 месяцев назад
How much was it?
@ScottSmithMTB
@ScottSmithMTB 4 года назад
First off I need a Classic Cobra t-shirt. Secondly, this was really fun to watch! Interesting to see you put it through its paces. Looks like it's best used as super fun and capable ride if you're trying to get from point a to b, and want to get a little rowdy on the way. Still, I can't help but want to see what it can handle. Maybe we take this thing down the big rock garden at Spider Mountain when it opens back up?
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
I can give you my Classic Cobra shirt although it may look like a crop top as it's pretty short on me too. I'm gonna say a hard no to this thing at Spider. Coming down that stair set alone caused me to spend like 5 minutes on adjusting things lol.
@fatbikearcticnomad2122
@fatbikearcticnomad2122 2 года назад
I love Teal Steel and Commando Bear. My favorite bikes that you have. Glad you really enjoyed yourself with these builds. I also love The Teal Steel song! It’s bad ass!
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 2 года назад
Thanks so much! I actually sold Teal Steel to a dude who was going to travel the country in an RV and wanted a cheap bike to cruise around different cities. I didn't tell him when I sold it that it has a theme song and I hope one day someone yells "It's teal, it's steel" at him. I miss doing more project bike stuff...parts just became more and more expensive and harder to find!
@bait3027
@bait3027 3 года назад
Vintage bikes are like vintage muscle cars: they look good and they can still compete
@mahhubbard
@mahhubbard 3 года назад
I have the old miyata trail runner. Love the simpsons bike seat.
@rolandovera5935
@rolandovera5935 3 года назад
Mission Trail? McAllister Park? That can only mean San Antonio, TX. My old stomping grounds countless hours and miles spent at Mac and OP and Salado... not to mention Flat Rock... very cool to see.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Nice! I love San Antonio. Was just at Flat Rock Ranch a couple days ago. Great place!
@devon08059
@devon08059 2 года назад
26” wheels and flat pedals is the main and best thing on a Simple MTB rider
@ET42Driver
@ET42Driver 4 года назад
My and my pocket learned the the hard way it's not usually worth to restore old mountain bikes... And if you do, never, EVER leave any of the old parts. I have this old, ruined and rusty Montana Downhill bike. I'll skip the unnecessary details on how it got neglected over the years. Everything on it was either worn, rusty or broken or something in between of these 3. Well, the only intact thing, minus the jockey wheels was the rear SIS Shimano derailleur. One day I decided to restore it. It was supposed to be a cheap project, but it turned out EVERYTHING, but the frame and that derailleur was shot. I took it apart and... Yeah, well... I spend a lot of money. For the amount of money I spent on that restoration I could've easily bought a decent used bike in much much MUCH better condition. Well, at least it looks kinda cool.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Yeah it adds up fast as you dig deeper into these builds. I seriously doubt I'd ever do a build like this again unless it was something really rare and special.
@mcndjxlefnd
@mcndjxlefnd 2 года назад
I see you've got a u-brake under that chain stay, but those old cantilever brakes on slightly newer vintage bikes are great. More than good enough.
@cheapshotslensreviewsandph3559
@cheapshotslensreviewsandph3559 3 года назад
This was a great video. In the same boat and this video is like having a good friend giving me advice ...
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Thanks so much! I appreciate it!
@coolcycles
@coolcycles 4 года назад
That you still have the original parts, gives me a little comfort, at least. The pink parts are full fresh, though.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Yeah I wanted to keep the original parts in case the next buyer wants it back to how it came. I love the pink accents. Really makes this bike pop!
@_CrankZilla
@_CrankZilla 4 года назад
Teal Steal looks rad! I've been on a vintage Specialized RockHopper FSR for 2 years ( about when I took MTB up ). Just last week I got a modern ride. I am with you, thought about upgrading it to its limits but it won't come close to a modern bike. It's is fun though but still sketchy.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Very cool and congrats! What a big difference it makes to have a new bike!
@benc8386
@benc8386 3 года назад
Good balanced review. These were actually very good all-purpose go-anywhere bikes and I think they're coming back into style. I think you should get some bar-ends though for full period effect.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 3 года назад
Thank you! These bikes are great for commuters and I think they are seeing a resurgence in the "gravel" scene. I unfortunately did sell this bike :( Kind of miss it, but got to make room for other bikes!
@happyfreeliferc
@happyfreeliferc Год назад
Us older guys never stopped riding them !! I've had GT & Specialized boy what fun!!! I'm 57 and still rip !!! trying to take it easy but it's hard too.. I'm still 15 yrs old at heart . Turn & Burn till the end⚡
@vickid573
@vickid573 4 года назад
It's Teal it's Steel!!! Love that little song but wish I could get it out of my head now!! Great video...
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thanks. It is a catchy tune. Probably my crowning achievement in regards to my musical career lol.
@HalfBritWings72
@HalfBritWings72 3 года назад
To keep your build Cheap get a donor bike from a thrift store Bikes from this era can be had from 15-45 dollars. I got a bike with perfect Araya rims like this one and a good functioning Suntour group set. That way there is money for new modern handlebars and stem, grips and stuff.
@danielworldwideex3289
@danielworldwideex3289 3 года назад
I met a guy who tinkered with bikes and would buy bikes at a bargain price to use them for spare parts. Recycle all the way ♻️
@royalkinga7399
@royalkinga7399 4 года назад
Just bought a '88 Takara MTB, this bike is so much lighter than these newer bikes and much cheaper to fix.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Very cool! Good point about the weight. These old bikes are easily 10 pounds lighter than modern bikes.
@gr8fulride
@gr8fulride 4 года назад
Nice build. I wanted to make a beach cruiser into a klunker. Put disc brakes, and stripped off all extras. It was a fat bike and a lot fun on sidewalks, but geo and weight was all wrong in so many ways. It got donated to a guy that collects cruisers. Nothing like paying and some sweat to learn
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
Thank you! That's been one of my dreams is to build a cruiser into a mountain bike. Seems like a fun project.
@SmallADVentures1973
@SmallADVentures1973 2 года назад
Really enjoyed the trip down memory lane (great video 👍), but as I bought one of those new while in high school (to cross train for motocross where I raced, gasp, a 2 stroke 😳), it made me feel old 🤣 I'm just getting into buying and refurbishing "vintage" bikes (for fun, not for flipping). Nice rebuild on this one 😁✌
@builtbydylan8315
@builtbydylan8315 4 года назад
Ive built a fair number of mtb steel bikes for the bike shop I work at, they sell fast haha.
@andi4281
@andi4281 3 года назад
Tubeless conversion is possible on any bike, and makes any bike soooo much better 😀
@hubdeep9452
@hubdeep9452 4 года назад
The problem is that building and transforming retro bikes is that it's very addictive. I'm now building my 21st bike 😳 90s bikes are much easier to upgrade and the v-brakes on one of my bikes are more powerful than my disc brakes. Normally my bike builds cost less than 150 quid. And I love being able to build something personally customised for my needs.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 года назад
21 bikes! That's super rad. I did have a blast working on this bike. I learned a lot about bike maintenance with this bike, and that was invaluable!.
@hubdeep9452
@hubdeep9452 4 года назад
@@CobraKyle yeah, I think I have an addiction. I think I need help 😂 But I agree, I learned so much from building bikes from 4 decades. Most of my bikes have been given to me as frames and I build then up from there and bring them back to life.
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