Jigga was only rapping for financial benefits. He doesn't care about the culture of Hip Hop. Shawn Carter only cares about the culture of Jay-z. Dame Dash been spoke about this.
Yall kill me wit that narrative jay was the hottest rapper in the game when he merged with b she was just going solo and was struggling with hip hop street credibility. Jay gave her that they both gave each other. yall nedd to stop.
@@nvm7191 yes I'm one of them. And stop acting like you don't know what it is In the industry You put an RNB darlinext to a hood wrapper And she gets to cross over to another market. From Beyoncé to Jennifer Lopez. Christina Aguilera on and on and on, don't act dumb.
@@taffygore6285 It is an impossibility to have a career even half as good as Jay without loving to do it. Around the time of Kingdom Come Jay had already released more then 450 songs including feature verses. This means what Jay does is beyond loving hip hop. To drop that much material in under ten years you'd have to be obsessed with rapping to the point of almost insane love for the craft. Most people who love Hip hop will never do half or a 3rd of this.
@@leroygreen6310I wouldn't say he don't love the craft cause he's far too competitive with his peers to not love it...but I would say that he saw hip hop as a business or a product more than he saw it as a culture...dame even said recently that jay was ashamed of being seen as a rapper he always wanted to be seen as a business man....
I love how people in this comment section make all these excuses for Jay. It's borderline ridiculous. Just ridiculous. Any excuse they can make for him, they do. Yet everybody else do it, everybody else gets slammed for it.
Jay walked his path and is living his life, and people are trying to malign him for absolutely no good reason. Are they condemning the man in Jacksonville? No, but they’re maligning Jay for not participating in a celebration. It’s absolutely ridiculous
This is coming off like a bunch of whining. I would've love to have seen Jay perform for Hip-Hop 50 but him NOT performing doesn't stain his legacy, his love for the Culture and what he's done and continues to do for it. That man is somewhere chillin with his family...RELAX!!! 🤦🏾♂️
I think Jay Z got comfortable with his lifestyle: married with kids. If the legends can perform and celebrate Hip Hop, Jay should too. Plus I think Jay don't like being around Black people no more.
What are you talking about? He always his guys that he came up with plus he’s traveling with his family. His kids are also on the tour with Beyonce and he’s just spending time with them. You didn’t see the videos online of him backstage with his kids?
@@abzda1700 He was performing in Superbowl just last year. And performed in his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame acceptance And he did give an editors letter to I think XXL or Billboard regarding Hip Hop 50 and his influences
The real question is why is anyone judging/questioning a man for what it is he chooses to do with his own life. Is Jay Z harming anyone? No - let the man live
@@silentambition2080 they favourite rapper is irrelevant man sell 17k first week the Brooklyn library issued 39k card for jayz exhibit first week they got outsold by a museum
@@kapo2012fb nas never had another album like that it’s been a decline since, he tried to do something with the shitboy run recently but only kd3 is good
By the way on Drink Champs, Irv said Jay said 'i gave it all i had' (at about the 1:55:00 mark) essentially admitting to having nothing left in the tank as far as Rap goes
@@silentambition2080 Then they should use their talents for free instead of being paid because the craft should be more important to them then the work they put in.
He probably had things to do but no rapper should be considered "to good" to participate in big hip-hop events. Similar things happen in battles too where someone may call another rapper out and you'd see some people say "he's to rich or he's not on his level". Unless that rapper announces retirement then I don't see why not. Hip-hop needed a manual book with rules when it was created because nothing matters anymore.
What is wrong with Jay not rapping anymore. He not putting himself number 1. People are. Coop we get it you love Nas. But why you stay having Jayz in your mouth. If the man wants to silently retire, let him. Every segment I see you in Coop , Jay z comes up, you're like what Skip Bayless is to Lebron. Smh...it crazy man. If I was Jayz I would never rap again. Simply because if he puts anything out, you people are going to tear it to shreds even if it's good, or compare it to Nas. There beef ended over twenty years ago let it go. You can't go through a segment Coop without mentioning JayZ name. Your obsessed
The craziest thing is i think The Blueprint 1 is his best ever project. But i compare RD but neither of them are better than All Eyez On Me, Illmatic, IWW, Stillmatic, The Score, Capital Punishment, Moment Of Truth, Me Against The World, Makaveli, Get Rich or Die tryin, Death Certificate, Amrikkkaz most wanted, doggyatyle, both Chronic album's, Dmx first 2 album's and so many more loool
Bro didn’t perform because he didn’t put it together, Nas and his company did. Nas came up with the idea first. If it was him and Roc Nation he would’ve been there but he’s not going to promote Nas’s company. Period
This is such a dumb take. 🙄 It’s never been about Nas. It’s about the celebration of hip hop. It’s because Nas embodies it hence why him and his company put on an event. The point is Jay could have did anything and he didn’t!!! He promoted his movie tho 🤷🏽♀️
You know how mad these people would've been had Jay showed up at a Nas event? Jay had the library thing and Nas fans went into a rage and that didn't even have anything to do with Nas. These people are crazy.
@@leroygreen6310 we DEF didn’t care about the book of Hov!!! We are too busy listening to all of Nas’s albums, rocking with him on tour, and talking about him online. But since that’s all Jay gave y’all did you go, take pics, and get your library card?! Lmaoooo 😂😂😂
@@YagirlLia22 Again its the hate but too bad you ain't actually support these Nas albums you claim to like so much which is the biggest indication that the competition you think he given Jay ain't even moving his bad albums let alone his classics.
@@YagirlLia22 The talk been more about Jay then Nas actual music. So much so I myself had to say several times get back to Nas songs smh Shit got so bad at one point me and Coop had to join forces hyping up KD3 for weeks before it dropped smh.
I don't know why Jay wasn't there and I definitely agree that no matter what Jay has to be a part of something like that. But at the same time these dudes clearly just don't like Jay. 😂
Yes, yall saucy for giving him a pass, he is just a human, he is good, not the best but this media driven narrative is ridiculous. Men placing men on a pedestal it's shameful. A
I think Jay's not at a place where he needs to, or is even willing split the pie. He can draw the same crowd by himself, so whats the urgency for him to go on a novelty tour with those guys? He's not going to move unless it benefits him, and doing the hop hop 50 would be him lining someone else's pockets. This is the same guy that said "My presence is charity". Thats not a guy thats going to be a team player...lls
These guys wont let jay breath. I guess jay can't walk to his own drum. Im sure he was not the only rapper to not perform for hip hop 50. Outkast, Eminem, scarface they have not performed.
Jay participates y’all then say he tryna purposely outshine Nas 😂😂😂😂😂 wtf do y’all niggaz want ? Y’all wanna take him out ya top 10 then do it and move on !
Gentlemen, it is disingenuous to say Jay and his payola practices were like everyone else. Yes, record companies pay for play, but Jay would also pay to keep other artists from being played. He used his position to not compete fairly against his contemporaries like shelving DMX projects or dropping on Nas dates or paying top producers to not share top tracks with other artists.
I’m sorry no one is bigger than Hip Hop. That’s a laughable question I tell u if Jay thinks he’s bigger then Hip Hop then he is smokin because he’s not. This music made him who he is now I don’t care what people say. Honestly I’m a bit disappointed that Jay hasn’t perform for the culture yet hopefully before the year is up he will perform for the art and culture that made him. Same goes for Kanye as well 2 very big egos that don’t acknowledge that it’s the 50th for Hip Hop they both need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Maybe he cooking up something on the low quietly..LL is a Cornball..He got his own thing going on but checking for the next man that’s Not checking for him.
If Jay-Z is or considers himself the greatest in hip hop history but wont or, cant perform at a Hip Hop's Great anniversary event says hes not the greatest.
Oh, that is clear. I bet you they are not going to talk about on how Jay is providing is legal team to help the man who was wrongfully arrested on AppleBees…. I mean they didn’t do any journalistic work like they claim when Roc Nation arrested Roger Colubski a super corrupted cop from Kansas City The Nas channel lose his signal when great Jay work occupy the wavelength.
@@Junboframewe are talking about HIP HOP!!!! Nobody discredits Jay for what he does outside of this arena (although some of his moves are questionable at best). Y’all are too busy making excuses because you all fail to just admit that Jay is not involved here! Don’t conflate the two to make an irrelevant point!
@@YagirlLia22I’m a hip hop head, I like Jay and Nas, but Jay is way better. I personally don’t care who did or did not perform for hip hop 50. I don’t think it’s that serious.
I guess Dre don't love hip hop or em or q tip , mos Def, Talib Kweli, Kanye, common sense, ludacris, chocolate droppa AKA Kevin Hart lol , Twista, Killer Mike,
@@silentambition2080 Em definitely loves hip hop he makes it obvious, q tip and ll are releasing a new album this year and has 3 of his solo albums after that, talib and mos def do stuff regularly, common releases and did radio freestyles recently, killer mike released a new album, not sure about the rest.
@Noob-mr4pe but they didn't show up to perform alongside Cool J so just like Jay they get the same treatment we not talking about what they did earlier in the year we talkin about August 11th anniversary if we're going to be so strict on J
Because what are the other rappers doing that we actually care about?! Don’t take that up with the podcasts! It’s not their faults the OGs are active and we are much more interested in hearing about them! 🤷🏽♀️
@@YagirlLia22 If this is supposed to be a Channel for senior citizens and Oldheads that’s fine. Channel won’t grow tho because it’s young people that are active on RU-vid, Instagram and reddit. Constantly talking about past events isn’t going to attract a broader audience
@@YagirlLia22 Me and my friend care about so many current artists. Maybe yall just old and lost the connection 🤷🏾♂️ Oldheads are so out of touch, it’s CRAZY
@@YagirlLia22 "Only the artists I grew up on are making music that’s worth checking out. This young generation is trash and produces nothing of value, why should I even engage with newer artists? 👴🏾 👵🏾" that’s how you sound LOOOOL
Jay Z No.2? Number 2 in Brooklyn yes😂 1. Nas 2. Pac 3. Eminem 4. Rakim I’d say BIG but 2 albums ain’t enough for me to put you on a list. His somewhere else, a list of his own
Let's keep it 💯. Besides LL COOL J's tour. There have been 1 REAL 50 celebration that was run by NAS/ MASS APPEAL. JAY-Z isn't playing employee to NAS when that ETHER is still burning SLOW.😂😂😂 JAY & NAS are NOT COOL I do not care what they say. NAS owns 50% publishing on a JAY-Z song that probably started the whole BEEF. NASTINESS from IRV trying setup a KILL NAS chicken run in Baltimore & the constant pettiness from JAY releasing albums in the past same day as NAS while blocking homie from a grammy before KD1.
Hell no! Jay-Z isn't not too big for Hip Hop 50! In my opinion, KRS-1 is better than Jay-Z and Nas! BDP's Criminal Minded album was better than both Jay-z and Nas' best albums! Please!? GOOH!
Jay a hustler a smart business man arguably the greatest lyricist alive. What i respect the most is that he march to his own drum he dont let what you think or your opinion decide what he do or dont what moves he makes or dont. so jay foul or wrong cuz you want him to perform somewhere when you want him to and he dosent. Also ether was an emotional call you names i dont like you only really one truth diss tho it was hot. takeover all facts not just dissing you and calling you names just what it is its like telling one person say what you want and telling the other just the facts. To be honest super ugly is harder [ pause ] and realer then ether. jay ah hustler you b.s. wit rap if you want when its all said and done you now see what is what.
@@thembabloemfontein4807 I don't know who Yall And I'm sorry they hurt you so much, but no I just remember In the beginning of his career I'm not a rapper And you can't knock the Hustle, yet that's all People seem to do is Knock his hustle. I'm just saying Where I'm from You aint supposed to do that You Suppose to let that man get his money Without hating Or worrying about how he getting it.
@@Follow.the.Leader There wasnt it was just big lips f@g scared to smile as a child did they call you ugly big lips you think you getting girls now cuz of you looks yo man stabbed un...low key snitching compared to beans you wack dame diddy dame daddy or dame dummy all emotional disses and opinions. Mean while on take you the model karl kani. nas modeled for karl kani fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all. While jay was blazing till they beef went public nas was cold. till ya body guards oochie wally verse better than yours. sort of an opinion but even nas fans say he was weak on that an hoarse verse was fire I showed you ya first tech on tour wit large professor then i heard ya album bout ya tech on the dresser. large professor confirms this. you made it ah hot line i made it ah hot song. facts. you said you been in this 10 i been in it 5 smarten up nas. Real talk jay had lapped nas twice by then. you know who did you know what wit you know who. damn shame. you know what this getting to long so im just gone give you 1 from super ugly which got the coldest ones actually. Since you infactuated wit saying dat gay ishhh....im just saying jay was shinning and winnig so everybody got behind nas but if you break it down it aint even close.
Jay is the goat, because whether or not he had the number 1 song or album of any particular year, he has consistently been a major part of the hip hop conversation since 1996, based on his hit music, business moves and life style. And that’s hip hop personified. Objectively speaking, No other rapper in history has done it like Jay has done it.
That's Nas too. Jay is bigger commercially and helped bring the culture to the masses, but Nas is the most respected and revered in the hip-hop community as an artist, by fans and artists alike. Jay himself looked up to him. Not putting one over the other, but don't exclude Nas from that conversation. He did it like Jay, and as of recent times, he did it better to show the true definition of longevity and graceful aging in a young genre.
@@williesween8780 Nas surpassed him. He just had a 5 album run in 3 years on his own label, he's performed and toured while running multiple companies, he's organizing and hosting the 50th anniversary celebrations of hip-hop. He has just as many #1 albums as Jay, and he also has the single greatest rap album ever made under his belt. He's a better rapper above all of that, and always has been. What part of Nas isn't on Jay's level, other than sales and being married to Beyonce? I love Jay but he was made the media darling when he sold out years ago. Nas never did that but still came out on top.
@@mgopaul27 This 5 album run proves my point. 5 albums, 70 plus songs, not one hit. Do you think if Jay dropped 5 albums with 70 plus songs that he wouldn’t have multiple hits ? Thats because Jay is the better artist at the end of the day. Those Nas albums were mid and came and went. Nas superfans can blame Nas’ lack of success to Jay on the media, Beyoncé, the Illuminati, blood sacrifice, Lyon cohen, biggies death and payola all they want. The mass hip hop has long since decided that Jay is the better artist.
@@williesween8780 The point you're making is nonsensical, and a false equivalence. Since when did hits and sales equate to artistry and quality? By that metric, Ice Spice is one of the greatest artists of this generation. And if you believe that, then you're beyond helping. It's not even like Nas's sales are suffering either, Jay is just a bigger celebrity. That doesn't make him a better artist. Only a bitter Hovenger would say this album run was "mid," it's not just Nas fans who have been raving about it. At least 3 are considered modern classics; publications, fans, and fellow artists have raved about them. I'm not sure how hard you're working to ignore that lol. There is no lack of success on Nas's end either, so I don't know where your argument with Illuminati and blood sacrifice comes in. Jay just went a different direction away from hip-hop to find success elsewhere. Nas IS hip-hop. This album run has never been seen before in the genre, further cementing his place in hip-hop. Hov has his white billionaire friends. He's a GOAT business man, and a great artist with multiple classic albums. But as far as this hip-hop and rap thing goes, he's not the one. At the end of the day, there's no sense in pitting these two GOATs against one another, just don't discredit the importance and the impact of Hov's favourite rapper.
Why yall always gotta talk about Jay and Nas man. It’s 2023, no one cares about some weirdo beef 20 years ago (except Nas LOL), move on please. Yall neglecting actual current HipHop culture by being stuck in the past.
@@SoulOfTheSouth Didn’t Nas just mention that beef on KD3? I mean it wasn’t a serious or offensive bar but to even play into that whole thing is corny to me
Coop, Reasonable Doubt is not a Top 20 rap album of all damn time. Say it as it is. I can't put it above these albums below 1. Illmatic 2. It takes a nation 3. Low End Theory 4. Enter the Wu 5. All Eyes on Me 6. The Chronic 7. 2001 8. Good Kid Maad City 9. Paid in Full 10. Doggystyle 11.Only Built for Cuban Linxxx 12. Life after Death 13. Criminal Minded 14. The Score 15. Get Rich or Die Tryin 16. Straight Outta Compton 17. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 18. The Miseducation 19. To pimp a butterfly 20. The greatest adventures of
That is such a dumb argument. Let's go to coke rap you mean to tell me Jay Z don't have and all time great album for hustler music? 2nd even if people don't like Reasonable Doubt that erases the other 27 years of his career? You folks sound crazy.
@@YagirlLia22 Of course it didn't here but in the world of coke rap Reasonable Doubt is the hustlers Illmatic, Blueprint brought back soul samples and American Gangster pound for pound is one of the best gangsta rap albums of all time. Here's the thing about Jay vs many he's compared to. With Jay we know he's speaking from experience vs most we know just have good imagination. Thats why he 100 million more albums sold and a few billion more dollars up.
The thing about jay people tend to forget is he said from day one he was hustler. People forget how jay would pretend retirement just for album sales the guy who would blackball his competition & would have radio not play people to destroy their opportunities. The same guy who has bit more styles & concepts then any ten rappers combined (remember when he tried to say he was a 80’s baby & cam clowned him for it, I could go on all day but the biggest insult for a hip hop celebration he put out an exhibit to himself. Jay has some dope songs & 3 classics but his stans idolize his money & lifestyle & ignore his character. I respect his music & his contribution but everyone knows jay is a piece of 💩. He always has been & always will be, he’s just an incredible businessman & master manipulator “you believe in your own lies, so you can’t be real” I bet people understand that line better