The best and simplest analogy I ever heard about karma came from S.N. Goenka: 'If you plant a mango tree, you get mangos. Don't plant a bitter neem tree if you want sweet mangos.' So simple, but so true. We are constantly doing things which do not align with the outcomes we desire, and we are so often unaware of it. We need to realise this truth to be free.
we (#2Spirit here - 1 man soul & 1 woman soul sharing 1 body) were born #indigenous in Europe 🏹 culturally we run #karma experiments we don’t practice free will either make of that what you will #spirituality #astrology
so deep, so subtle. Rinpoche does not just give us a definition of karma but he wants us to think about the practice of the teachings. Thank you Rinpoche for not making us just good intellectual students who repeat the lessons learned
For people who haven't reach a certain understanding through practice and not mere reading books, it is difficult for them to change the conditions they were born in and hence being 'trapped in the six realms of consciousness'. That is, ordering coffee in this example. One will need to 'accumulate' sufficient merits to change or upgrade conditions of their existence, in practice. One cannot just virtualise oneself out of the predicament one find oneself is in. Very good explanation given here by this lama ❤
It's not about changing anything, it's about realising the TRUTH as he explained that in reality, this is our perpetual dream and not to be attached to coffee too hot, too cold, wrong coffee etc. Light humour helps dissolve the tightness of our preferences 🙏🏽
He used the word "choose", I think that should be what resonates with the audience. For others who can't or won't watch these types of videos, they may not have the choice. But for us here, we do.
For those budhhists monk my great respect and humble sadhuwad will remaing for life long , for preserving these precious light of buddha in this sansara
Karma is neither caused by free will nor it is predestined as there is no separation between both. The present moment is a single happening of everything and that everything is empty of independent existence.
I'm of the mind that rather than there being no seperation between free will or destiny, there infact is no such thing as free will or destiny they're both part of the illusion lol. They're just more examples of thoughts ideas concepts, step back in time through your imagination and have a look. Someone somewhere somewhen just pulled that shit out of their arses miraculously for the first time in history then started spreading it about.
@@alansgjw we'll see it's tricky because you can't talk abou this shit without Invalidating anything you say lol embrace the madness. Be still and know they self, but don't talk about it
Very well said. Such a complicated phenomenon described simply very well. Karma is real until you are in a dream state. Once you wake up karma is an illusion
Karma in my opinion is not predestined. If it were, then it would fatalistic. Karma is dynamic. Is karma free will? It is not either. Our decisions, actions etc are the results of our upbringing at home, based on culture, traditions, beliefs, customs, the information that we get, education etc. How could it be free will if in Buddhism, everything hinges from the law of cause and effect. So, in short, our actions are not predestined. There is no authority that controls you to do this or that, you have choices. But actions are not free will either as why you do something, or the way you think and behave depends on so many factors; culture, faiths, traditions, the way you were brought up in the family etc
Think of karma as a train that's headed somewhere fueled by your past actions and you are the passenger. There is no free will when you are the passenger. But you have the opportunity to upgrade yourself to the front operator cabin where you gain clarity in vision and take full control of the train. Clarity and control is free will but true free will's purpose is to bring the train to a complete stop nothing more nothing less.
Is karma predestined or is it the result of free will? The answer is in the question ( karma is the result of free will, once it has been created then becomes predestined)
Then why a past life Aham Britti created Karma will create difficulty for present ? Why a different body & character wave will suffer for a different waves past life karma ?
It's both predestined and free will at the same time, imo. We decide to take on more karma as is determined by our heart's connection with om. om being all.. The living source. 💖
Ur not taking karma, karma is coming at u in life through ur thoughts in mind continously, now its upto ur freewill or will power to choose between which karma u will do & what u will avoid or ignore.
The way I understand it is that it is both. For example, if I have been greedy all my life, that habitual tendency would strongly affect my next action. It is thus pre-destined as a result of my prior actions. However, this does NOT mean I cannot stop being greedy if I really want to. Looking at it from this angle, it is then free will.
Exactly! You summed it up very well. In the name of “free will” people build themselves a prison. Their “free actions” and “free responses” lay the foundations for future imprisonment through the establishment of causes and conditions to ripen later in the form of limitations and obstructions. The underlying motivation for their “free expressions” pave the way for future experiences of non-freedom. The root cause for the yearning for “free expression” can be found in the non-acceptance of the present moment and the underlying identification with a self. The only escape is through an absolute acceptance of our TRUE NATURE AS INDIVISIBLE WITH THE TRUE NATURE OF ALL PHENOMENA. Our inability to accept that reality will have consequences, such as the endless accumulation of karma. The skilful Path is the way of sowing beneficial seeds of karma that eventually will lead to the realisation of true reality beyond the impact of karma. Karma can never be the “producer” of insight and enlightenment. Only our primordial wisdom, inherent within every living being, can be the direct cause for Buddhahood and enlightenment. Nevertheless, beneficial or positive karma is said to be of vital importance to clear the way for our own wisdom to arise. The process of accumulating beneficial karma is sometimes call to accumulate merit within the Buddhist traditions. To be skilful in this regard means to know what activities through body, speech and mind that’s really conducive to positive ripening of karma. That’s where the teachings of the Buddha really shines! The Buddha have through the three turnings of the Wheel of the Dharma laid out the perfect path for us to follow, since we are in no state to determine on our own what constitutes real beneficial practices. And also what to avoid as well. To be able to transcend samsara we must learn to utilise the present means at our disposal instead of daydreaming about a state beyond this reality. That begins with the humble acceptance of whatever situation we happens to be in right now. The principles of karma is at the core of our present situation, no doubt about it! The only free choice we have is to accept the present moment as it is. That where we must begin! To accept something does not mean to cling or wish for something. It does not mean we want to encourage all those factors that’s holds us back from deeper insights, but it also doesn’t mean we make our ignorance and clinging into an enemy to be fought against either. It just simply means to accept whatever conditions we’re locked up in at the moment, and then work with that in whatever skilful ways we can. Due to emptiness, impermanence and the truth of interdependent origination we will find ways to walk our path towards greater insights and eventual liberation if we learn to be skilful in our understanding towards our present situation and the relative principles of karma. In this way karma can become our best ally in our progress towards liberation.
Carma means action.There is no free will just options. The more options one has the more free he feels. That is why when you have money you feel more free because you have plenty of choices. Choices give the illusion of freedom. That is how they enslaved us. It was easy though. People do not like truth and responsibility. The more you do the more Carma you create. So try to do nice things that will justifie your Carma. One has to learn to live peacefully within him self. Time and Space do not exist. They are just qualities of the mind. Reality is the result of our consiousnes's participation. That is why i believe there is no free will. The think is that even though i am conviced for what i believe i am sure that i am totally wrong. But that is how it works. Like the cup of coffee....anyway....hard times are ahead. Best wishes to everybody......
@@aouroram722 choices r free will or will power to choose the right path so that u don't mess up more karma. I even get instant karma result for petty karmic issues. 😂 also if I don't break someones leg who tried to kick me, they break their own in petty accident themselves. 😂 its really funny at times. 😂
I love how Rinpoche La is asking us to go beyond the entanglement of Karma and live in the NOW. Forget about the illusion of the past and the future…And when the Guru enters your life then Karma etc cease to exist. And ultimately we have to Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate Bodhi Swaha…go beyond beyond, transcend.
My personal take on this after what I believe is true is that Karma is at the very beginning caused by free will. A blank slate with no pre-existing “past” karma to affect that present moment. And so that individual is pure and free and chooses some path (karma) to experience. Over time, due to naiveness and ignorance (like an archetypical child), one might make decisions (karma) that might not be so “positive” for example. and so this builds up karmic debts in that individual which would in a way have to be offset based on karmic laws eventually. and so overtime, free will seems to not be there due to past tendencies being built up and causing certain karmic debts that would have to be paid in certain fixed situations in “future” lifetimes. Free will is always there and karmic debts that can’t be avoided are there to allow one to correct one’s “erroneous” action along the way.
So in other words life is a dream and people are asking on the level of dream, not realising that on the level truth, it being a dream means it (just like in a dream) isn’t real, only realised once you wake up (enlightenment). Hence the answer being, on the level of dream, karma is cause and effect, but on the level of truth, an illusion
As I write this there are 83 comments and you are the only one who gets it and/or expresses clearly: life is but a dream (suggesting that life is a dream is the fastest way to end any conversation, that's why Dzongsar Khyentse is so careful, I guess). But unlike other dreams the dream goes on after awakening: lucid living. You still experience life as the person you previously exclusively identified with but you now know that you are dreaming and therefore your essential nature is consciousness. As in any dream.
Life is a dream but dream is true. Action has consequences within that dream or next dream. But realised being enlightened ones, will power & mind is so strong that they will be able to cut their all Karma & won't react to predestination happenings in their life, they will be able to choose the right path to select which Karma to do.
but I hope everyone is clear on the point that it is bad karma to wake up from having drunk your coffee before having paid for it... best to get karmic closure by quickly re-entering the dream stream in order to pay...
To put it simply karma just means your inertia to get caught up with certain people, conditions and situations. Like bees are used to honey , and flies are used to shit.
Every Thing especially any action must be a karma. It has equal but opposite reaction. Karma is in various forms: Your direct conscious karma, your sub/unconscious activities, your parents karma that affects you, your species karma, your evolutionary karma, your molecular karma, your atomic karma, your Planck's karma, and so on. Every cause followed by its respective effects are karma.
That's happened to me before all the time. Like I had a saki decanter and suddenly I come in the dream. And the saki was blue colored and I was trying to understand why it was blue. It wasn't until waking I realized it was absinthe.
Chethanaham bikkhawe kammam wadaami... What u think it will come back to u as a boomrang.... be careful when u do bad evils for any sentinent being . Do good and collect merrits....that is the very fundemantal eaching of buddhism.. Sabba papassa akaranam kusalassa upasampadha sachiththa pariyo dhapanam etham budhdhana shasanam....
Action & consequences both r part of Karma. But in ultimate reality Karma doesn't work. It only effective in Aham Britti Ego Mind. It doesn't effect the True self.
The real trueself the SPIRIT has no karmas.. when spirit descended and dressed up with MIND, karmas started.. the mind created multiple events one after the other, and past lives.. for New spirits descending down for the first time, past lives were created by the mind, even though they did not participated in past lives.. Main reasons of SPIRITS descending down to earth was to have and gain all Types of EXPERIENCES, goodness n badness,, together...so inorder to have experiences the Spirit moved from the lower kingdoms to higher kingdoms finally to human body.. human body is the highest more higher then Angels.. Yes karmas are predestined, because we picked them up when we descended into realms of MIND WHERE AKASHIC RECORDS ARE KEPT.. THAT WAS NOT GOD IT WAS THE UNIVERSAL MIND, WHERE ALL MINDS ORIGINATED.. FREE WILL IS GIVEN IN HUMAN BIRTH ONLY, IT IS FOR SEEKING FOR GOD ONLY.. USE IT FOR SEEKING GOD THAT S ALL.. EVEN IF YOU GO TO THE VERY BEST HEAVENS YOU WON T ABLE TO DO SEEKING FOR GOD THERE, BECAUSE THERE YOU LOOSES YOR FREE WILL.. SEEKING FOR ONE GOD, IS ONLY DONE IN A HUMAN BIRTH ONLY.. WE MUST GO BEYOND THE MIND TO BREAK AWAY FROM CYCLE OF BIRTHS AND REPEATED DEATHS... OUR HIGHER TRUESELF NEVER DIES.. THE BIGGEST SUFFERINGS AMONG ALL TYPES OF SUFFERINGS IS REPEATED DEATHS.
He seems confused. He is unable to answer the question....Karma is the result of all past deeds words and thoughts. Therefore present karma is pre destined...it is ALSO free will as our future karma can be changed by the result of the actions we do today using our free will. Simple answer is Both!
Buddhist can not answer these questions. only Advitha philosophy can answer to any questions. Because Advitha philosophy is based on Upanishads which are ultimate knowledge for absolute truth.
This is the most confused person and answer i saw. Guru is supposed to simplify. He has overly complicated it, and dint answer the Q. Here is my learnings from Hinduism (parent of Buddhism -- buddhi means intelect in Sanskrit) 1) intellect is fluid and two sided knife. U can cut in anyway u want (free will). So, dont depend on it overly (mistake of the above presenter). Its a tool to be used carefully in a limited setup. 2) karma ia basically cause n effect. 3) at macro level, key milestones in ur journey are predestined. Based on your freewill you will reach the milestones in different paths. Your karma dictates the degree of pain/misery/happyness in your path. 3) if u work and build a strong freewill, using karma, you can change the predestined milestones , and make your own path and destination (if u really desire so).
This question is quite common among people whose religions are Abrahamic religions. In Buddhisme there is neither predestination nor free will as everything is a continuum of causes n effects.
@@maddog3768 the truth knows no names or labels. Karma is not a patented product. Even Hindu or Buddhism was not a religion at first. I'm sure u know at first people just called Hindu "Sanata Dharma" that refers to any belief in some parts of India. Hindu and Buddhism became religions and were labeled by people who did not practice the truth.
People are very attracted to the idea that there is no free will, so they are not responsible for the difficulties in their lives. At the same time, we want to be free to do as we wish. Oh well....
There is no choice but to be in the frame of the movie in conjunction with all else that is in that frame. The image in the frame changes from frame to frame and the identity "your name here" acts in perfect harmony with the rest of the image in the frame (the frame being your immediate experience). The only thing that you have agency over is WHERE YOU PLACE YOUR ATTENTION within the frame. Karma is the attempt to do something as an individually existing separate self within the frame. The illusion (created by language) is that there is a separately existing "I" that is determining the actions of "your name here." So we are free as to what we pay attention to in each frame of the movie but we cannot change anything about the image appearing in the frame
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Aham Britti & Mind ( Mann) suffers for Karma. Bcs that is the illusioner which reincarnates as a new wave. That also forms the body so body also suffers alongwith it. Self is the only observer who watches the Karma & suffering.
You have been listening to too many ignorant people that’s even told themselves they are enlightened and that you can get rid of the Edith by denying it’s existence
Según entendí de las palabras de Khyentse, nuestros pensamientos presentes son los que condicionan nuestro futuro (destino) (karma). Según tus pensamientos, diras unas cosas u otras, según tus palabras haras unas cosas u otras, por tanto quien dirige tu destino es tu pensamiento. Según lo que pienses, te vas a encontrar tu futuro. Si!!!!!!! Puedes canviar tus pensamientos.
It can be from past as well. Now think why a different waves Aham Britti created Karma will bother a new waves mind through subconscious? Isn't that unfair to the new body mind combo illusion entity?
Now explain why a 10 years old child die suffering in cancer who has done no karma as such in present form ? Why would this new wave body mind combo will suffer for another waves aham britti in different body mind combo in past ?
😂😂😂😂 the best answer would be : present is the product of the past and is also the seed for the future. Yes Karma is predestined according to ur deeds. U may think its illusion but the suffering out of it us real.
Understand this way , you are standing and asked to take one of your feet above the ground ( now you are free can choose whichever feet) once you lifted one of the feet if asked to again lift other feet too … you can’t your free will is gone now as there is already existing cause so karna dictates free will or precisely said destiny Since we can never know the full causal chain of karma we can pretend to use free will to take the best course of action …intended result may or may not bear fruit that’s the best one can do .
The very last part is very very important: Stop charging that force. It is also very very complicated. Further teaching is needed to truly understand what we should do
Yes, it's very complicated! Do we choose the thoughts and when they appear? Then, is there any free will? So, can we really and effectively decide to not charging that force?
@@thevisibleman7087 @thevisibleman7087 when the thoughts appear appear as combination from all past memories including they previous reactions (subconsciouss) and with the 'contact' of the forms and events perceived wich are always fresh and new and never exactly as those in memories, once are there, are there, but it is possible to redirect then and change if you choose to consciously introduce a new one, ideally, unhealthy ones for healthy ones, and that space when you decide create consciouss thoughts would be your 'free will'
@@thevisibleman7087 one needs to control thoughts, thoughts will be multiple choosing the right one is work of free will. That's the difference between a meditative living & accidental living with predestination without will power.
@@japonconkouken problem is why a different waves Aham Britti Karma consequences will effect a new waves mind through subconscious thoughts ? Isn't that unfair on that new body mind combo entity of illusion? 😂
If you can be in the present moment ,you stop creating new karma.Old karma will still take its course unless you have reach enlightenment.But we had been creating billions of karma since time immemorial that everything looks predestined. Thats why you weren't born as Bill Gate's son\daughter
But our ignorance may believe the highest rebirth is to be Bill Gates son/daughter. We must’ve done something right to have have this precious human rebirth and listen to these teachings ❤🙏
ตราบใดที่คุณยังไม่สามารถตื่นจากความฝัน กรรมก็คือความจริงสำหรับคุณ นั่นคือตราบใดที่คุณยังไม่ตื่นรู้ บรรลุอรหันต์ คุณก็ยังควรละเว้นการก่อกรรมชั่ว กระทำแต่กรรมดี เพราะนี่คือสิ่งที่มีผลกระทบต่อชีวิตของคุณ เพราะคุณยังไม่สามารถก้าวพ้นความฝัน เมื่อคุณตื่นรู้ เมื่อคุณตื่นจากความฝัน คุณเห็นว่ากรรมไม่มีผลอะไร มันเป็นเพียงภาพลวงตา ในโลกที่คุณตื่นนั้น คุณไม่กระทำกรรมใดๆ อีกแล้ว คุณจะไม่กระทำกรรมชั่วแน่ๆ คุณปรารถนาดีต่อเพื่อนมนุษย์ แต่คุณไม่มีภาระผูกพันกับการต้องกระทำความดี As long as you remain unable to awaken from your dream, karma functions as your reality. In other words, until you attain Arahantship and achieve enlightenment, it is advisable to avoid engaging in negative karma. Focus on cultivating positive actions, as they directly influence the course of your life. This is particularly relevant because you are still bound by the limitations of your dreams. Upon awakening from a dream, the realization dawns that karma holds no true significance; it is merely an illusion. In the world beyond your dreams, there is no longer a concept of karma. With this understanding, you naturally refrain from generating negative karma and instead harbor good intentions for your fellow human beings. While there is no obligation to do good, the absence of negative karma becomes an inherent aspect of your awakened state.
Catholic missionaries r hilarious. Heart is an organ which pumps blood in whole body. 😂 heart gets instruction from brain, if its not working properly then pacemaker machine gets installed in body for heart to work. 😂
