Is LG Bribing YouTubers?? - pt.2 

So send them a good ole moist turd back to them with instructions on how to cook and eat it.

did hardware unboxed's channel blow up after that? edit: i mean sub/view count wise?

@@mehregankbi Not really. Check socialblade. Their sub added count has remained more or less at the same rate

May the Infinite Cat Girls be with you.

Sam Harris dropped a really good one about AGI and the dysfunctionality of wider cultural redirectioning. You should check that one out. It describes your logical position of playing along because it is irrational as an individual to do anything else, beyond entertainment and strategic combat. The floaty objective huh stuff in the clouds is a friendly reminder the forces of darwin are not free to exert themselves as a new dark age where the level of science far exceeded our outside observers tolerance for lack of a better word, evil.

Bro the quality is good. It just needs more youtubian collaboration and the rollercoaster effect on your audience. More nervousness would have been great. Like really run with the emotion and exaggerate it to the point of ridiculousness when talking about the shill culture. Nothing wrong with it, just turn it into a pleasing likeable art that other youtubers cant master.

Not really, their channel is so boring

@@ayalaamaury your opinion on their content is irrelevant.

@@ayalaamaury right because people watch hardware unboxed for pure entertainment value not for their unbiased technical reviews when trying to decide between products😂😂

I hadn't watched them until this scandal lol, been subbed 6 months now

@@ayalaamaury I subbed since this video, its a great channel for info. Ty for your opinion, it has been considered briefly then ignored.

Your not the official NASA because you don’t have a checkmark, and Only have one VIDEO!!!!

@@riponrip4574 wow you are so perceptive congratulations

@@noeljonsson3578 nope

Unfortunate - you seem like someone who values integrity, and that's the best kind of reviewer making the most useful content in the space. Posting your own review seems valuable in that instance, because (if warranted) including their corporate manipulation would be a unique and valuable piece of information for potential users who are evaluating a purchase decision.

@@Soleniae interesting point!

He wasn’t saying it was an excuse, but I think he did try to give a fair and balanced overview of things as they *might possibly* have taken place... but as he dives deeper, it seems like LG doubled down on a bad decision

@@Big5ocks well, even if it’s true, they should have hired an English speaker to talk to English speaking press. That’s not that hard or that expensive for a corporation of that size.

I've been offered free stuff if I give a "five star review" on Amazon. I told them I'd be happy to review the product but I wouldn't promise a certain rating. They replied "OK a four star review would OK". I didn't review the item. This was ICStation which I think makes reasonably good stuff. I showed some of the LED arrays on my channel which I purchased and told people I liked them. If I did review the product, I'd probably like it. I just won't promise to give a specific rating. The interaction I had with ICStation really soured my opinion of the seller. By the way, don't trust reviews on Amazon. Especially reviews on ICStation products. One more thing. I'm a RU-vid nobody. You don't have to have a lot of subscribers to have people offer you products to review.

@@ddegn nice to see you have strong standards even though your a small RU-vid creator. The cheak of asking you to give a certain rating wow, how low will companies stoop these days.

@@Wooksley That mindset is the arrogance of a native English speaker. We're so used to everyone knowing English, we expect everyone to be as good and have a similar way of talking it. It's hard truth I learnt since working at a multination company with a large presence in Asia, eastern and southern Europe. Yes, they may have English as a second, third or even fourth language, but their usage will be different. For example, the Dutch are blunt as hell. They'll tell you straight up if something is bad. While we British people sort of skirt around the issue.

Doesn't korea have a real problem with corporate strong arming? Where big tech companies(Lg, Samsung, Naver) can twist arms of smaller media outlets or even store to have info or products which show them in favorable light?

Inexperience played a bigger role than language in this case, I think. The emails contained way too much internal information. Anyone with one or two year experience in any work would have known, i.e. it must have come an intern § junior staff. A more experienced staff would have more skillfully hidden the shaddy internal policies at LG and the scandale would not have been that big .

@@siddhantdeepful Yes, corporate strong-arming (and all other kinds of strong-arming) are an embedded part of Korean culture.

@@siddhantdeepful Big firms can make their good news to look even better, and bad news to look less worse. And to be honest, people, including me, are so so relying on those firms, for example naver and kakao, that we don't really care now. Small mishaps from those firms would not affect those firms in any substantial ways.

@@KaaptnIglo Surely that should be the case, but imagine a situation where both the writer and the supervisor know nothing about English and both of them rely on Google Translate to write that email. Companies here reluctant to hire foreigners because we have a quota system here (5 locals : 1 foreigner) and they have to provide higher salaries to foreign employees. Yes LG is a big company, but whether they are willing to go through everything just to hire a foreigner to write English email? I doubt. I also doubt that both the PIC and their supervisor understand everything that was written in English in this matter. Or maybe they just believed that by providing a review sample to an influencers, they would have to comply to the guidelines they provided. Is it a cultural thing? Difficult to say. But most of the sponsored videos on Korean RU-vid are less than fair reviews. You can feel that those content creators are some what bias. That's my own observation tho.

This comment is lovely.

LG sandwich sounds nice...

I don't think so. It seems like being unable/unwilling to learn and keep pushing these insane attempts of control is a requirement to make it in that job. They all behave like sociopaths!

You have a great point but in reality, the damage to the brand is not greater than the possible gains. What you described is exactly what the big companies do to gain, and whereas it does damage the brand, the people who are already manipulated don't care and will continue to buy their products. I mean, look at Elon Musk. Tweeting about cryptocurrencies and creating so much controversies and hurting his brand, yet Tesla stocks are at its highest point. Same thing with Apple; their ads and business practices are full of trash, yet they have gained 30% in stocks over one year. Also, what you have suggested about making everything public is a dangerous territory that leaves precedence and stereotypes, and it can lead to witch-hunting and borderline McCarthyism, because you are putting faith and fostering trust in the media outlet that YOU deem to be trustworthy, which may not actually be trustworthy, which is literally the state of the US politics today. At the personal level, how would you feel if every time you made a mistake at work, everyone gathered around, called you out and shamed you in public? Because that's what you're suggesting in your comment. LG was in the wrong here in my opinion, but maybe they had their reasons too. Maybe they just couldn't transport all the previous generations of monitors due to the pandemic issues and intercontinental shipment, etc etc, so they're worried that if the new one is advertised too good, no one will buy the previous generation products. Who knows. However, I still think this was a bad business practice for the consumers. However, your suggestion seemed to be at the level of an extremist. I think it is important to be in the neutral as a consumer.

@Running With Cat Are you sur you want to meassure the trust custumors have in a brand soley by the stock price? Sure trust in a brand has an impacton sales and might lead to a higher stock price but there are a lot of other factors. I sugested that whenever a media outlet encounters practices where the subject it is reporting on trys to manipulate said reporting it is always the right thing to report on such practices. How would this transparancy lead to stereotypes and the other bad things you mentioned in this paragraph? No, I did not suggest to shame anyone. Don't put words in my mouth! Also you have to consider the context of the comment. We are not talkin about calling out individual persons. LG is a company. There is a big difference. However, even if we were talking about an indivitual persons mistake: How would anyone learn something and better themselves if nobody would point it out when they make a mistake? An other point you seem to be missing here: LG didn't make a small mistake because someone forgot something. They had teams of lawyers, marketing people, executives, etc. who deliberately developed a way to manipulate media outlets. Thinks like that do not happen by mistake. They happen on purpose. With calculation. Whatever reasons they had. They could have just made those reasons public. They could have realeased a press statement with information about shipping problems due to covid. Then the consumer would have had acurate information about the product and the reasons why some models are late in shipping or whatever. If some customers would have decided to never buy LG again because they had shipping problems during a pandamic it would have been their (stupid) choice. If they were buying an other product it would have been their informed choice. I don't see how sugesting that there is no excuse for manipulating the media coverage of a product so consumers have acurate information to make their choices can be considered "extremist".

Right! Even if it's not malicious and really is genuine blunder, it is not acceptable for companies to bully the public over their own incompetence

It's not "slowly fading"; it's getting more and more aggressive as income inequalities increase across the world, including Asia.

@@selohcin Yeah. I don't know how it can be fading, when even western companies are looking at these Asian slaver firms for inspiration. I'm sure Bezos or Zuckerberg would be happy to bring the asian work culture to the west... and the worst part is that they're actually succeeding.

Same

Dude, this email was sent by a lower-mid level employee in a Korean company who does not speak English even halfway decently. There is absolutely no chance this guy watches RU-vid videos that are spoken/written in English. He wouldn't understand them if he tried. He had no idea of the recent scandal between Nvidia and Hardware Unboxed.

@@selohcin Did you miss the part where about eight people were CC'd in on this particular email chain?

Very hard, as you can see. Remember it's the marketing department we're talking about, after all! 😂

JayzTwoCent is a sellout, would have sucked lg if this email was sent to him.

*threaten

@@selohcin thanks

This is the first thing I thought of and is most obvious explanation. Linus had to do allot of mental gymnastics to try to reconcile that LG didn't want their new monitor compared to the old model, because LG thought the new model was so much better, then suddenly not much better than the new model. It is much more plausible that LG didn't want the comparison made because it would not be favorable to the new model. Rather than LG's explanation to Linus, that it would hurt the sales of a monitor which almost certainly will have reached the end of is production run and is also no longer in stock. The theory that the new model didn't test as well as what LG were expecting and that LG didn't know about this when when asking reviewers not to make a comparison between old and new models, I don't buy it. I think Linus was either a bit naive, or didn't want to go down the rabbit hole that somebody at LG had lied to him.

People can't lie.

I’m watching on an iPhone, so…either LG or Samsung lol

Tf

They made phones ?

I agree, I got the 27gn950, awesome monitor.

Agreed

Dog chain

Yeeees

Cog?

@@trs5127 Was geht

Given your nickname, i would expect you to have an old school CRT monitor!

@@TheJubess 😂😂😂

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Definitely just you. It’s written like it was copied and pasted from Google translate.

@@HCG lool

Your lack of formatting makes it really hard to take your message seriously.

@@Draugo Lol - what would help? A new paragraph at "*"? This isn't exactly a word-processor we use. To be honest, I gave up long ago on anyone actually caring. Just occasionally I feel the itch to comment. Actually considering folks reading it is a different thing. Anyways - if you think it matters - I'll keep it in mind.

​@@ChristopherCobra RU-vid comments are really narrow, especially on mobile, so it helps to make lots of paragraphs. Here's where I would add line breaks: Unboxing made a mistake, I think. When I tech reviewed (it has been a long while) it was not uncommon to get "recommendations" or even "wishes" from the supplier/reviewee - and that is OK because I could always say "so-an-so recommends...." - honesty is all that really matters in reviews. Embargoes are just part of the game - but they were agreed upon in advance -- ALWAYS - you can't change them after the fact and companies know this - LG knows this (I mean LTT even entertaining a misunderstanding here is reaching.) HOWEVER - never would a company tell us (or me) how we must do anything or what to say or EVER offer compensation. If we said what they wanted or did what they said. That is an ad - not a review [Sponsored vids are OK as long as folks know if the sponsorship effects the review - but that is a different thing - a showcase like he said]. That (paying for a cooperative review) is what LG is trying here regardless of language barrier and they know it. Sure....there is a cultural barrier. They need to get over it - the rest of the world is not their culture, but it is their market. This is not a new game. *Sometimes companies would let you keep the review product after testing. This was not discussed in advance in my experience and never seemed to be coupled to the actual review. And yes.....we got black-balled from certain products from a certain company (Corsair [yes - you got called out]) for a poor review - which is their legit right if they they think you are not reviewing them fairly (though we did). As a review site you have to be prepared for that....they (Unboxing) never should have even asked about it IMO. **Private reviews I have done and they are exclusivity for compensation - but not released to the public....that's really the only time I think "pay is OK". Just in my old guy opinion.

@@Jake-bt3fc Thanks - I never consider mobile because I never use it. You are not the first to point that out to me either - obviously I should pay more attention!

fourteen

Fifteenth

Ok?

... so how many subs should they have to be allowed to get involved in drama?