@Keyser Söze 100 different distros can't run the browsers that were created on Linux distros. Have you actually switched a Linux box on during the last 15 years?
@Keyser Söze I run firefox, chrome and have played with Midori. I'm not sure what your comment is based on. None of the distros I have ever run fail to load those browsers. Which "distros" have given you this "hellish" experience.
When you install Windows 10, you have to agree to Microsoft's terms and conditions. When you get a mac, you agree to Apple's terms and conditions. When you install Linux, it agrees to YOUR terms and conditions.
On linux, I can update all my software at once. I can't do that on Windows. EDIT: Left this comment for one year, wasn't expecting this many comments. Wow.
updating all your software at once is what breaks the system, and when something fails you don't know which package caused it. Linsucks have missing packages, drivers fail after updates + dated GUI... you will spend %100 of your time copy pasting commands into a terminal. Mac & Windows Just work.
Imodium funny, that has never happened to me. It's literally selecting a list of updates for all the software on the computer, with the option to update all your software at once. If I have a 5-year outdated system running Linux, I can just update the whole thing in a few steps. With Windows, updating is a huge project. And drivers are almost never an issue on Linux, with most things working out of the box and never breaking. I don't know what experience you had, but it certainly is far from my experience and likely that of many people.
Not to mention you can update it whenever you want, and it doesn't take 40 fucking years to do it, or require restarts in the middle of the updates, you can literally just "sudo poweroff" at the end of the updates and power back on if you even NEED to restart. Of course if there's a linux kernel update or a new version of your distro (say you're on a rolling distro for example) then yeah, that would require a restart
On windows, I can play all the new games on steam. I can also CHOOSE when I wanna update (I mean its pretty easy tbh) I don't have to worry about forgetting a line of code. I don't have to spend hours setting up my system. I can program in nice apps. I can play Roblox.
Actually, this is both false. In order for an EXE file to run on Linux, it must be prompted to be opened by a user through wine. This must be done because wine like every other Linux program must be prompted by either a scripted or a user, before it can start up. So no, it will not act as a back door unless you open up a virus yourself.
And you still need to have installed Wine, witch is not installed by default because most of the daily use software are available on Linux. Wine are for tech savy people, not for commons user.
@Vukašin Đurić Đura except those components are open source software that perform similar functions while running a program in wine, but ultimately are not Microsoft software or from Windows.
@@randomyoutubeuser8509 use as a driver? are you using beta releases? are you using non-beta proper drivers? There is a list of devices that Linux works with - unlike Windows which tries to work with all hardware. Are your devices on that list? Did you try to resolve your issues with the Linux support community?
I used Windows for over twenty years . I switched to Linux and never will go back. The switch turned my computer life around. I now am a programmer PHP, Python, C++, Ruby much more.
I switched to Linux for programming and ever since I have I’ve been a lot more productive, I’m not sure as to why tho probably because less distractions in Linux.
@@readysetreact1345 form over substance? You might want to reconsider. Try using Linux with KDE desktop. Mint 17.3 KDE is a more traditional desktop and so is any with the mate desktop BEFORE Ubuntu 18 came out. Ubuntu 18 and newer ones base don that look far too much like Windows and act like it too. There are ways to alter linux to look just like windows. For many, we want it to just WORK without all the BS, regardless of the OS.
@@readysetreact1345 How so? And why are they using Mint? For basic computer use they might want to use Mx Linux. Comes with Libreoffice. Fast and does not use systemd unless you select it.
I agree about the donations issue. But for me, I have no CC or Debit card. Can barely afford the internet due to high cost or healthcare insurance premiums. If I didn't have that problem, a donation would be a lot easier.
@@Ronzaigu you should be firced into software you dont want... edge is prime example, you force it into system to point of constant background use than no one uses it...pure bloatware that just stops you from using computer with no way to opt out. duscusting....
One advantage you missed with Linux. With Linux the updates sit and wait for you to choose when to update. I can't tell you how many times windows has forced an update on me when I'm in the middle of doing something else. Yes you can schedule when windows does updates but often windows will clear your personal settings including update schedule back to window preferred defaults. You can also setup Linux updates and it will never mess with your personal settings. But the default of sitting there waiting for you to click it is priceless. Linux respects its users windows disrespects its users.
@@majingamer6109 But it will take forever to update, then reboot a zillion times before it's ready to use like Windows always have in the past. No thanks.
@@majingamer6109 OMG really???? xDDD so what you're saying is you have to buy the PRO version in order to be able to schedule the updates by yourself!? Thtat's even worse than this DLC bullshit most big game publishers pull off
Huh windows never just restarted, forced me to install them or changed my settings. When I shutdown my pc I can shops between update and shutdown/restart or just shutdown. I adjusted my settings when I updated from win 7 to win 10 once even being in the insider program and then leaving it didn't do anything. It's all about setting things up correctly.
Don't switch, Windows > Linsux , in fact, Linsucks = worst driver support, Bad GUI, 100% terminal. Linsux is for communists who can't afford a Windows License or a macbook. Your best bet is to switch to Mac OS, apple will take care of you. They have apple support. 👍
@@imodium438 OS X comes with spyware like Windows 10. Driver support ain't that bad (as long as you don't use old nVidia graphics cards). There are pretty good desktop environments for Linux such as KDE, Deepin, Gnome etc.
@@imodium438 it's not bad of your an end user like me.. Also I'll never swap to Mac because of their data breaches and the price, my newer laptop has Windows 10. Not everything is command based on which distribution you use, I use Mint or Ubuntu.
The way Linux works is simply elegant. It makes more sense than Windows. I'm not saying Windows is bad, however Linux is technologically more elegant. A delight to use.
Sure, ....... and the earth is also a spinning magnetized pear tossing through a vacuum at 500 ,000 mph. Tell me how scouring every folder in the root file system is any easier than looking in your Program Files folder or appdata? Linsux scatters programs all over the place there's no single directory they're saved to. Plus all the dot files none of it is consistent AT all.
@truthseeker Oh belt up! So that's why Red Hat, Canonical, and Suse Enterprise are raking in millions in cash, because Linux is so bad that only people with no real work to do use it, right? You're pathetic, and need to grow up.
@@greenazure4367 what are you? A windows fan boy? Does that even exist? No, you're probably a fan of mac, which like Linux is based on Unix with a kernel made by apple with way more restrictions. That's the biggest difference between apple and Linux, other than MacOs LITERALLY IS slower than Windows. Even if you use the same CPU, Ram, Video-cards etc.. Ref Linus Tech Tips
No because if you take the square root of Joe and divide it by Thio you will get Half Life 3. So In theory if you find the square root of Thio then add Joe, you get ThioJoe
Now that Microsoft have created crazy hardware limitations for Windows11 I think a lot of people will be repurposing their old (but still good) PCs to Linux. I also agree with your comment on using Linux to create secure systems for older relatives, etc.
My mom has been using Windows exclusively for decades, but she still doesn't know what anything is or how it works. lol So, yeah, maybe. Thing is, if you get involved, be ready to be tech support. If you don't know Linux well, you can't be telling anyone else to use it.
@@NickRoman She might like to try a live session of Linux Mint - it looks and feels a lot like Windows, and I've switched a lot of Windows users to Linux with it because it's very accessible for someone that's used to Windows
They won't. People don't care about long-term solutions, just quickfixes so they can forget about it. Old laptop doesn't support Windows 11? Buy a new laptop. It sucks, but it's the way of the world.
In some modern Linux OS's you don't need to use the command line like Ubuntu Mate or Linux Mint. The update process in Windows is archaic, in Linux it's fast, VERY fast, seldom rebooting. Installing software is easy, depending on which OS you choose. However, if you game, stick with Windows. Linux user since 2006.
Really, the only updates you actually need to reboot for are kernel updates. And you don't need to immediately reboot, it will just update when you do reboot.
Balogh Mihály, Not everyone wants to dual boot. Some people just want consistency, that's why people generally use one browser and don't jump between Safari, Chrome, and Firefox every time they open a new window. I guess it is not a bad thing to have options though. "Peace!"
@@asans9849 I use 5 different browsers to prevent me from having too many sites bookmarked in one browser. It keeps things a little more organized imo.
@Insane Studios This is a false assumption. Stereotypes for Hackers is that they use Terminal to hack someone or something, but no. All hacks are made through programming not by command lines. But since Linux is known for using Terminal as its main settings/configuration/system management UI, everybody thought Linux is used for hacking... but no.
@@ohCran Kali Linux already comes set up with all the hacking tools anyone would need (whether it be white hat or black hat). Also Linux terminal is just far better equipped for exploits compared to CMD or powershell.
Ahmed Ali you mean specifically kali Linux right? Because every os pretty much comes with a way to code (which means you can hack) Kali Linux on the other hand comes with programs like Wireshark, Medusa...etc though, and is made specifically for “ethical hacking.” You can get these online though so... I don’t get your point.
I switched to Arch Linux because I was sick of kicking windows "10"(coff 9) into submission. with Arch Linux i command and it obeys nor does it disrupt you with "mandatory updates"
The mandatory updates are important security improvements that can stop viruses. You don't want to get a virus on Windows, do you? Just be glad the ultra-long feature updates aren't mandatory.
I'm a "regular user" who switched to Linux for the corporate-free nature of its software and the related user freedom, privacy, and security (as well as UI flexibility). I found that there are open source software in the repositories that cater extremely well to my workflow and actually work better than Windows software for the fact that, unlike on Windows, they are designed and developed by the people who actually use them in their own work. That's one huge bonus on Linux -- the reliability and quality of the software. Community maintained software has its clear advantages. Of course, that does mean that you need to approach Linux with an open mind, as its own computer platform, and not expect your Windows software to work on Linux (just as you wouldn't expect Linux or Mac software to work on Windows) (although cross-platform file compatibility is pretty decent, including files for Microsoft Office). Linux is also getting easier and easier to use by the average person as the years roll on and development continues. It's also an excellent solution for those who just want things on the computer set up once, and to work that way forever. No forced upgrades, no undesired changes. This makes it a great choice for non-computer-savvy people (as long as they have someone who sets the computer up for them, initially).
Your example regarding elderly users is spot on. My parents are 70 years old. I switched them to Linux Mint about 8 years ago. All they use the computer for is browsing the Internet, and playing music. Since these activities are not operating system dependent it really makes no difference what OS they are on. The main reason I switched them is that I got tired of having to maintain their Windows system. My father is one of those people who inherently always found a way to get his PC virus infected no matter what anti-virus software I installed. One time I found over 300 viruses, and it took 3 different programs to clean them all off. That was it. I was done with that. I switched them to Mint, and haven't had a problem since.
Exactly, especially linux is effective with people that do not even know what actually a computer is. You can teach only how to use it for what they really need! Like Your case, and the job is done with no problems.
Unlike what was stated at the start of the video, virus writers don't go after Linux because it is much more secure, not because there are fewer. Mac runs on BSD and is also virus free! Though I don't use Macs, the EUA is what kills all those other non free OS's.
@@robertgolding there are viruses for every OS, if ut exist it WILL be exploited. most viruses infect the computer by compromising the kernel, installing and running scripts they arent supposed to... that can happend on any operating system regardles of antivirus software and developers effort. all it takes is ability to install programs or even sometmes downliad files and your done. what actually makes linux safer is that it has repositories, places to download software that are already checked for viruses by devs a.k.a. an app store... yes microsoft also has this but it lacks miles comoared to linux package managers.
@@qwerte6948 Haven't had a virus in nearly 30 years, that was when I switched from CPM to Linux. If you keep the system as intended, i.e. SECURE, you never get a virus. Back in the early 90's CPM was nearly dead and I was initially looking at MS but when I read the EULA I decide against it and looked at Linux. I have never looked back.
I switched to Linux in 2012 and am in the process of switching back now. Here are some random thoughts in no particular order. 1. Linux is a BEAR to configure. Anything you want the computer to do, like say, connect to your OneDrive account, requires extensive web searching, lots of trial and error, cryptic terminal commands and much head scratching. Any time your computer requirements change slightly, like you buy a new printer, for example, you have to do to hours of web searching for some hack, some work around, some cryptic commands to make the computer work the way you need. You eventually stop trying to extend your computer horizons because the up-front investment is so great and too often fruitless (see point 14 below). 2. You will NEVER be entirely free of Windows. At some point, you will need to, say, take an online proctored test. When you do, you will be borrowing a Windows computer from a friend because there is NO WAY to do that on a Linux box. 3. Software support is minimal. There are a bazillion little 3rd party apps that add a lot of functionality to Windows. Those apps are not available for Linux. I'm talking about screenshot capture programs, pretty desktop background programs, weather bugs and the like. Get used to not having them in Linux. You know that little app you downloaded from your VPN provider that connects you up in minutes with a simple click of the mouse? You won't be doing that anymore. You'll be digging into the command line, entering long strings of incomprehensible gibberish and crossing your fingers every time you connect. Even worse, Office 365 is not available. Most cloud functionality is not available. Adobe Photoshop is not available. CAD of any kind is not available. Yes, there are Linux knock-offs, but they are shadows of the big commercial software programs, and no one can answer your questions about using them (see point 14 below). 4. Hardware support is minimal. Do you like your fancy mouse with 17 different buttons that do everything you want, just like you want it? Forget about getting that to work on Linux. It turns magically into the most expensive 2-button mouse you ever bought. Forget about getting a lot of printers to work on Linux. Prepare to replace at least 1 or two cards inside your computer, because some of them absolutely will not work with Linux, despite all your efforts (see point 1 above and 14 below). 5. I've used Linux exclusively for 8 years and still don't have to foggiest notion how it works. Like, WTF is in all those system folders on the HD? Why is there no rhyme or reason to them? What are all those weirdly named dependencies I have to download in addition to the software I want? Why does some software come via repository, some come via *.deb file, and some require command line codes to install and utilize? WTH is Grub and why can't I ever figure out where to put it? These are only some of the myriad mysteries of Linux that you will bump into routinely and never understand without a CS degree from MIT. The Windows architecture is rational and knowable. MSFT invests a lot of money into explaining everything with websites, tutorial videos, top-level training programs, discussion boards, etc. You basically have the smartest minds in the world going to great lengths to explain how and why they've built Windows to work like it does. By contrast, Linux is a Gordian enigma (see point 14 below). 6. I never did one virus scan and never got one virus on Linux. Ever. Windows was another matter entirely. 7. On Windows, I have the distinct impression once again that someone is looking over my shoulder whenever I use it. 8. On Windows, every system hiccup can be corrected in roughly 5 Google searches. In Linux, most are unsolvable, see points 1, 5 & 14. 9. Linux file permissions are maddening. There are some areas of the HD that Linux absolutely will not allow you to change. This is all in the interest of security, but it's a flat out PITA, because sometimes you need to make changes. When you do, Linux will block you with file permission nonsense. In a lot of cases, it blocks the administrator from making changes. When that happens, you're stuck doing hours of internet searches for terminal commands to move and copy files, hours more to change file permissions, then hours more to make them recursively for all the subfolders that the first commands you found didn't do (see point 1 above). It's absolutely exasperating. For Pete's sake, it's MY computer, I'll blow it up if I want. And usually, you will when you start doing sledgehammer fixes out of sheer frustration. 10. Linux is not that tough. I've crippled my installs on at least 3 occasions, leaving me high and dry and requiring an emergency reformat each time. Some of the issues could have been resolved if points 1, 5 & 14 weren't such problems. The 1 day spent reformatting was simpler than sorting through all the blind alleys online trying to fix a simple issue. 11. Some of the software on which you come to depend will just stop being updated one day without warning or explanation. You'll be bummed when that happens. 12. Linux was a godsend for my 75 year old Mom. Linux is very stable. It doesn't pop up bizarre warnings that confuse many unsophisticated users. Better yet, it doesn't decide one day to radically change its interface (MS Office 2007?) or re-arrange your menus because it felt like it. For most people it will work exactly the same, day after day. It's simply wonderful if you support users with very basic needs and limited tech savvy. 13. Linux is free. As in FREE! You can completely outfit your computer with just about everything you need for nothing at all. What's even better is that you don't have to fight with pay walls, or hack your registry for product keys or jump through any other hoops. You simply open the Software Center, select what you want and it downloads and installs just like that, and most of it works decently well. That's a wonderful thing. 14. Most of the answers you find on Google to questions or problems you're having with Linux will NOT work. I'd put the percentage at 95%. That's what makes point 1 above such a problem. You will find lots of answers in the form of confusing explanations and lots and lots of cryptic terminal commands. Unfortunately, when you try them, they will not work and you won't know why. So you always have the impression that a solution to your problem exists, but never the satisfaction of actually finding the solution. The reality is that most tech geeks using Windows (the kind of guys who answer your question about that funny error message you're getting) are professionals, IT admins, engineers, computer scientists and the like. They know their stuff and will have you sorted quickly. At best, the geeks using Linux are professionals tinkering with Linux in their spare time. They'll get to you after they've answered all the Windows questions. But then they'll be tired. That's the best you get. At worst, they are guys in remote cabins stockpiling beans and bullets. They aren't necessarily bad people, but logical thinking and rational communication will not be their strongest suit. I enjoyed my time in Linux Land and will continue to keep it around in some form or other. It has some very good uses. In the end, though, it just doesn't work for me as a primary OS. I was always able to bend Windows to my will. I could find the work-arounds, implement the solutions, do the registry hacks or whatever else was required to make it work like I wanted. Sadly, Linux has defeated me. It's a great OS, but for a curious power user who likes to tinker, it's just a constant frustration. In contrast, Windows 10 is easily one of MSFT's best ever. I am more than happy to make the jump back.
@Pumpkin Patch i am not one of those crazy people with the tinfoil hats. i agree that privacy is sadly dead, but i do believe that i would rather not use google because the less privacy invasion the better. i dont use Tor, but i understand that privacy is important. You can't hide from the government but privacy is still valuable.
I made the switch from Windows to Ubuntu. I was also de-google-ifying and unfriending Facebook, so I was changing everything. Basic funtions didn't change much. There's a learning curve under the hood. I'm not giving up though. I'm a man on a mission.
Well, I mean direct products, as in those explicitly displaying the Google icon. Sites like RU-vid are owned by Google and I don't like them, but before someone figures out how to start a video sharing service more successful than RU-vid, I guess I'll have to tolerate it.
"Dependency hell" - you've seriously *never* heard of *DLL hell* where one Windwos app relies on one version of a library (DLL) and another app needs a different version of the same DLL, and the clash between the two causes Windwos to become unstable and crash?
I've never had issues like that. The worst in windows was years ago, some program I tried to open said there was a DLL missing, and when I went and found it (not the right answer here), it then said another was missing, on and on. So I thought better and tried to figure out what these DLLs were a part of, obviously this is not how you fix this because in windows we don't expect they'd have us doing something like this, and I found the proper redistributable or whatever to install. There might have been a couple, I don't remember, but that was very rare, hasn't happened in modern windows or for ages, and nowadays windows (or steam) tends to find what it needs without any fuss. The worst problem in general I ever had with windows was back in ye olde times, with IRQ conflicts. Thankfully that's been absent a decade or two. It still pales in comparison to what happens whenever I try linux.
I am fairly new to Linux and from what I’ve seen and learned, I have to go with Linux It’s more stable and the updates on Linux are a breeze. Updates on Windows 10 take way too long
I’ve used windows and Linux on a fairly new laptop with an SSD and linux takes 5 seconds to 3 mins max to update, and windows takes 2 to 5 mins to update.
@@Gramini My whole library (Save VR but that's just because of the headset brand, if I had a Vive or Index it'd work) on Steam works fine under Linux, and I have 150 flatscreen games ranging from AAAs to niche indies. Proton (+ Wine-Lutris for the few incompatibilities) is basically flawless, even online. Will all games run the same or better as under Windows? Hell no. Is the experience good enough to leave my Windows install as an ugly but necessary VR mode? Hell yes.
My dad's PC had Windows 10. Then, somehow it corrupted it's own partition. Bsod: "NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM". So we put linux on it and he already likes it. *He used to hate linux*
Linux has come leaps and bounds in recent years; the pace of development and improvement is staggering. The story 5 years ago might've been different, but these days, Linux is super easy and comfortable, and better than any other OS in many significant ways. I feel much more at home and don't miss anything about Windows. Never intended to switch, I just found that I liked it better.
Vulcan will most likely replace directX, and more and more games / game engines are becoming portable (meaning OpenGL support by default) anyway. I think MS Windows being "the only viable" gaming platform is, more and more, becoming a thing of the past, and this perception is more of a backwards "this is how we've always done it, so this is how it must be" sort of challenge, rather than a technical one.
Damn straight. I cannot BELIEVE Joe has never heard the term DLL Hell. I heard it MANY times before ever hearing of Dependency Hell. That said, it's not an unfair criticism.
>In windows you don't have to worry about dependencies. Hello there, the Visual C and Dot Net runtime frameworks want to have a chat with you. But they don't come with the installer, you'll have to download them from a separate website.
Here's a trick: if something requires DotNet, don't install it, it's crap. DotNet is meant for lazy developpers and it uses a sh*t ton of resources for no reason.
Actually Windows now atomatically give you the option to download that dependencies without going to a website, and if you don't have internet conection you can download C or .Net in other PC and pass it with an USB.. Do that with linux that easy... You can't
That is incorrect. Android lacks a lot of compatibility with Linux binaries, and vise-versa. Android is a VM that runs atop of Linux with tight integration. So no, it isn't a distro and it isn't 100% Linux. ChromeOS, however, is a Linux distro (often derived from Gentoo), though heavily modified and locked down.
It lacks in compatibility because the kernel of Android is modified...But Android's kernel is based entirely on Linux...So yes, it is Linux...Modified with commercial purposes.
As much as I despise Windows, you're right about the shortcomings that Linux has. I mainly use Windows because of the comparability issue you mentioned. But you're 100% right about dependency hell.
For me the best option is to dual-boot Linux and Windows (Mint 19.3 and Win10) on the same computer. This way if some program is not unavailable on Linux and doesn't run properly with Wine, I can just install it on Windows. This also makes a computer more reliable, because if something goes wrong with one of the systems, I can still use another one.
Why use 1 OS if you could use 2?! Obviously you would need to learn both operating systems I mean dual-booting is great especially if you want to have 2 or more operating systems to run on, for example if you want to download something from Windows but you are limited to Linux and uh what distro you use, you could boot up the Windows OS and play it from their that is just an example but the capabilities and possibilities on how you want to use it is endless.
I'm 64 and I'm finding Linux easy to learn for exactly the reasons you have stated. I've been a Windows slave for more than 30 years! Linux has set me free!
@Computer User Trust me, you know nothing of what someone like me for example, could do if you didnt mess with that. I just hack for educational purposes, always with permission
10% slower than Windows 20% more vulnerable to attacks than Windows 69% increase in blood pressure than Windows 28.1% glazed more than Windows 81.991% sexier than Windows 1% smarter than Windows 100% more wholesome than Windows
@Computer User If there is a will Linux provides a way. You can set up pam_usb to replace typing your root password in terminal with requiring a specific USB to be plugged in, which is safer than typing a password anyway. That means no typing passwords if it's really such a big deal to you. What I love about Linux is I tell it what to do, in windows it feels like Microsoft has the final say. Whatever bugs you there is a way to customize with a little configuration in Linux
there's NO QUESTION linux obviously is ... windows wins only because of it's 90% market share, meaning a self-supplying ring of "developers use windows because everyone uses windows"
No mention of GNU/Linux giving you Freedom Mentions changing themes, not installing desktop environments, or different windows managers. Also you can get repositories on DVD. 4/10 desu.
Windows gets worse over time. Linux gets better over time. Even though I am a gamer, I still use Linux Ubuntu. Not because of better fps, it doesn't get better fps. But it runs wayyyyyy more stable. If you try Linux for a short time, you're gonna say it sucks. If you try it for a year, you'll love it. That's because it takes longer to get stable, but once you're done, it'll last you longer.
Windows gets worse over time. - nonsense I started with Windows 95 which was ok then Windows ME which was crappy...now on Windows 10 which has been a solid stable OS. Ive felt no need to dable with Linux nowadays
Yep, you said that right, dependencies problems literally suck but only when there's no internet otherwise "Sudo apt install -f" works I don't understand why one would even use a desktop without internet... Lol 🤷♂️ That's not a problem at all. I am in love with linux, I am using it for 5 years.
You can technically use FreeDOS for some things, including on the network. I have it in one of my VMs. That being said, it's extremely limited and while it will access the internet, it won't do most of what a modern OS will.
TL;DR ---- The better question is: How can more people be introduced to Linux? The main function of any OS is to enable people to do stuff. What kind of person, and what kind of stuff varies. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. When you really boil it down, the main issue in the Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac comparison is 100% of computer users are familiar with Windows (no matter if they use it or not), and a high percentage of computer users know that Mac is a thing (even though most don't use it, and can't afford it). Most computer users do not know about Linux, so that places it at a disadvantage. Just as mentioned in the video, there are perfectly valid and obvious use cases for Linux on the desktop -- such as old hardware, underpowered hardware, custom-built hardware, special-use hardware, nontechie users, and just want to try something different. I think pretty much everyone can agree that if you are heavy into gaming, then Windows is the OS for you. Similarly, if you are heavy into video editing and the like, then Mac is the OS for you. And if you are a computer enthusiast or an advanced/power user, then any or all of the above are good options for you. There are issues with any OS; some more annoying or concerning than others. The difference is that the entire infrastructure of the personal computing industry has built up so much muscle memory in dealing with Windows issues that we don't always recognize them as actual problems. That's why when some people find their way into Linux, it feels like such a breath of fresh air. For example: With installing printers on Windows, you get used to messing around with that printer for 30 minutes (or more) installing drivers and useless bundled software and then restarting and going through all the first-run software nonsense. Then you discover on Linux, that same printer has auto-installed itself and is immediately usable. You then realize how much time and effort you have been wasting. The main gripe with Linux is the unavailability of specific software or specific proprietary drivers. Though, I would argue it is not at all a problem for most users. Even then, this is becoming less of an issue over time, but it is potentially an issue for an interested user. That would change as more people were introduced to Linux. What we should be asking is how can that be accomplished.
Good point. Linsux is not for everyone. Its horrible , dated and meant to be used for computers from the early 90s. Missing packages, drivers failing with updates, installing kernel headers ... 100% copy paste command into terminals. its too much maintenance , so just buy a Macbook and use OS X. Apple has apple care and apple support they will look after you. 👍
Sell refurbished laptops with Linux to students for a superlow price. Get them while they are young and they'll never let it go. Just ask my therapist 😂
I would only buy a linux PC for the cheap price, and after that, install windows on it, i tried most of the distros in VMs and find it way too simple, manual and confuse
I'm no Linux patriot in any way. There are really only _two_ good reasons why you _must_ use Windows, and _one_ why Linux is not your thing. _1. Games._ _2. Specialized software_ used by the company you work for. _3. You know Windows,_ and Linux is different. That's a problem. However, you can easily install Linux next to Windows and have them both on your computer and see if you like it or not. Since this video was meant to the average user, I have to disagree at some points. I'm a "newbie" to Linux (mint) and Ubuntu, and have used Windows practically throughout my entire life. I like Linux better. *Power* Using a laptop? Linux is far less power hungry than Windows, so your battery lasts longer. Also, it's faster, and doesn't get "tired" over time, like Windows. *Software:* What programs do you have and use in Windows, _by category?_ Linux have them all, just lesser to choose from. And most of them are just as good. So how choosy are you? About any browser but Internet Explorer. Various Office's but MS Office. Photo, music or video editing? Several. The list goes on and on. As mentioned, Linux is _damn much safer, more stable, entirely free, a repository like Apple Store or Google Play and works the same way. And nobody cares about what you do on your computer. Windows 10 is _*_all_*_ about getting as much information about you as possible, which is why it was free for some time._ *Adobe vs Gimp:* I'm not a pro, but am quite familiar with both programs, and _yes_ I find them pretty much equal. Both are damn good, have just about the same number of filters and whatnot. One costs a shitload of money, the other is entirely free. No, you don't need Photoshop _at all,_ unless you're an educated professional who've used it since you begun your Adobe education. Besides that, I agree pretty much with everything *ThioJoe* says. My only big issue with Linux is "the dependency hell", and that I have to read _"how to do"_ this and that in order to make my computer the way I want it to be. But that's because I'm a newbie. Thank you for a good presentation. :)
You have to use Windows because even to today if you want to play the latest Triple A Title, or you want drivers for your wireless card working or whatever hardware you want functioning, it most likely will be only compatible under Windows. Windows is just straight up garbage but because of it's market-share and because it is taught in schools that Windows is functional, developers and hardware manufacturers usually make their products only on Windows, unless an operating system has notoriety like Mac and Linux. This is called network effects. It's not that Windows is so much better than Linux, it's just that Windows even to this day still has the majority of the hardware and software support. Me personally I am FreeBSD guy, I wish all the developers and hardware manufacturers poured all their support towards FreeBSD. For developers to recognize FreeBSD it has to have a large user-base. How to get lots of people using FreeBSD? You have to improve it's hardware and software compatibility where it's user-friendly enough. You see the cycle? The only way FreeBSD will ever be popular is through MacOS, since MacOS uses lots of FreeBSD code particularly in their kernel and user-space. But MacOS has a closed platform, Apple's business practices are very anti-consumer. You can't run MacOS applications on FreeBSD for example. If MacOS was free and open-source or had a more platform it would be beneficial to everyone because lots of people hate Windows. There is still a huge demand for an alternative to Windows. Linux and MacOS are not getting it done. And how the market works no niche OS like Amiga or Haiku is just suddenly going to become popular. If someone can convince Apple to change their ways, or at least make MacOS a complete fork of FreeBSD that would be beneficial too =).
I'm a linux user, and have been for 15 years. I don't run Windows anywhere except in Virtual Machines and on computers I don't personally control (i.e. at work). This comment is pretty accurate, but I would offer a few thoughts. 1. Games - This is highly dependent on the games you want. There are a lot of AAA titles available via Steam on Linux these days. Tomb Raider, Rocket League (Maybe not technically AAA, but soo much fun I had to list it. Also 100% cross platform online play!!), Hitman, Civilization, Deus Ex, Mad Max, DiRT Rally, Dying Light, Borderlands 2, and more. Don't even get me started on the number of titles from smaller studios that are available. The Linux Steam Integration package developed by Ikey from the Solus distro (Available as a Snap for other distros) really takes things up a notch. Sure, there are also some huge titles that don't appear on Linux and that's a shame, but that's why I have an Xbox. If I'm going to play games in a non-free environment I want it to just work everytime with no effort even if it means sacrificing some visual fidelity. ;) Power: I have actually seen much the opposite. While Linux based Operating Systems have the potential to run more efficiently, they often fail at this. At least out of the box. Installing a few utilities (TLP and PowerTOP) and configuring them correctly will help, but generally speaking power management for laptops is one of the areas that is pretty terrible. Hardware vendors are as much to blame for this as the software developers. I wish I had the knowledge to contribute to making it better, but I don't have the free time to learn. Adobe vs GIMP: This comes down to a matter of preference, but also cost/value evaluation. I can do anything I need to with GIMP. I started on Photoshop with Photoshop 7 and have newer versions off and on over the years via student licensing deals. If I were a professional photographer who was constantly re-touching photos I would spring for Photoshop and run it in a Windows VM. The main reason is the time savings afforded by the much more advanced builtin tools. I generally spend my time working images for websites and programming projects, so I prefer to save my money and just stick with GIMP. Also of note are Inkscape, Krita, and one of my most used applications lately Gravit Designer (A must have for anyone doing any sort of UI mockups/prototyping.) @Owen Kanaway - "You have to use Windows because even to today if... you want drivers for your wireless card working or whatever hardware you want functioning, it most likely will be only compatible under Windows." I just haven't seen that to be an issue in the last few year. Really not for at least 5. I haven't had any hardware support issues in what seems like forever. Mind you, I started using Linux back in 2002 and wireless drivers werea mess, graphics acceleration worked like black magic (Xorg/Xf86 conf editing) requiring just the right card/driver/kernel and manual recompilation on updates, audio was similar, and don't get me started on configuring mice or trackpads (particularly with extra buttons and scrollwheels). There are some edge cases, and sometimes distros don't update to provide the drivers you want immediately, sure. Overall the major hardware vendors have gotten really good about providing drivers and kernel patches where necessary to support new hardware from day 0. I'm not a FreeBSD person, but I do appreciate the way they handle things. I wouldn't mind seeing a concerted effort to turn it into a more competitive desktop operating system. Like you said though, it's a Catch-22 scenario. This is the reason I've really liked seeing how a few newer distros have been handling integration. Solus and Elementary are great examples of how a solid focus on consistency and internal integration can yield a much better product than many of the distros that have come before.
@Jeremy Coleman Thank you for taking the time to reply in such detail, much appreciated. As I said, I am relatively a "newbie" and was actually wondering if I was wrong when I wrote about _power._ Reason being that either my "old" laptop battery have gotten worse, or Linux Mint is draining it (or both). I didn't know that CIV was possible to play on Linux? The only reason I kept windows for so long, was _because_ of Civ V! I enjoy privacy, so I always wanted to use Linux. So using Windows X bothered me a lot. I don't have facebook (well, I _do,_ but it's completely empty, and I never visit it), and though I'm commenting frequently, and am "all over the place" on the internet, I always keep my username and real name separated, and my real name to a minimum on the internet. _(I guess you would too if your first name was as rare as mine)._
Philosophilia Well as a Linux patriot I can tell you I started using Linux only for gaming on only once i started programming i started using it as my main OS
My 2 cents, 1. Compatibility? Using Linux needs open minded perspective. Adobe Creative Cloud isn't available, but many alternatives are available and comparable in feature sets (and some are not even free, and it's running on Linux). 2. Installing software in Linux is easy, and mostly are automatic process, here's an example, in my OpenSuSE installation, when I want to install Webmin, all I do is type in 'rpm -ivh webmin.rpm' and it will install webmin with only the rpm file (similar to a .cab file in windows), and you can run this rpm file OFF a flashdisk. Yes, there are times where you need other pieces of softwares (dependencies) but if you install your Linux-with-everything-checked, most of the time you won't get dependency requirement (most are already installed). 3. Dependency hell is close to non-existent these days. Repos can be cloned, and in Windows, there is something similar to dependency hell, it's called DLL hell, and this is also VERY RARE, so as dependency hell. And don't forget the times when Microsoft installer hung on installing .Net framework dependency prior the main software install (though this happens very rarely these days). 4. "I shouldn't have to figure it out, it should just work", I'm not saying that I don't agree with this, but everything has it's own unique way of "working". Just because you are familiar to Windows doesn't make it Linux FAIL automatically, and vice versa for people who are familiar with Linux and repos will tell Windows users as outdated and old, why would you need to install a software by downloading a file, then installing it? And if the software requires a dependency (like .Net Framework version XX), at times it will just throw out some cryptic error message. The software should just INSTALL, and it just works in Linux (tragically, Windows is indeed very very "old-fashioned" in this regard). Even our phones does this automagically, Wiindows by default doesn't do this - except you install your software through a marketplace (Windows Store, or Steam). Well, the argument about "An application install in Windows just works" depends on a very specific perspective of your view as a user. If downloading an "installer" works for you, then there you go vice versa for Linux user, an "apt-get some_software" is MUCH EASIER and more efficient than downloading an "installer". Each has it's own quirk. I personally prefer the modern way of Linux Repository, Windows is outdated and old IMHO. 5. Switching to other operating system are most of the time will require a learning curve. Keep an open mind. 6. Not all software are available in Windows, netdata is one of those sofwares (google it). And it provides information in a way that no Windows application can provide.
@Shawn Shawn I get that, but there are security issues beyond that with windows 7. And when EOL comes along there will be even more issues that antivirus and antimalware software can't help.
@J W I can see you never have been trapped in dependency hell. Dependency hell is not a big problem these days because most distros now "ship" with most of the common dependencies by default and if one is required it is easy to get them installed. But back in the day, it used to be a huge problem especially if you didn't have an internet connection. Linux is a completely different animal these days!
Personally have experienced this multiple times on both windows 7 and 10. Haven't experienced dependency hell for years, in fact it was only once or twice on an older version of Ubuntu (14.04). On Arch, I've never really experienced dependency hell. If I'm missing a dependency of a software in it's repos or the AUR, it'll either install them for me (and ask if I want to uninstall afterwards if they aren't required to run the software) or it will list them out for me to install them myself. ez
@@jadoo782002able I run both Windows 7 and Windows 10 on Virtual Machine and boy, Windows 10 is so slow, laggy and takes forever for anything to load up. Windows 7 takes up for less RAM, and it is very smooth in virtual machine, everything is very quick and snappy.
I just installed Linux Mint 19 on one of my machines. In the dew days I have had it running I am well pleased. It's a bit quirky in some areas but I guess they'll become normal soon. The main reason for this 'trial' is extreme hatred of Windows 10 which I seek to avoid at all costs. On that issue, I am so far unaware of any company - corporation - that is using Windows 10.
Every company running a Windows environment should be running Win10 on their workstations. The exploits on earlier version would represent a huge risk to their enterprise. Win10 is the primary workstation OS in the Federal Enterprise.
Most schools use Windows 10 on everything but their Chromebooks (obviously) for no particular reason that I see. I think they do that for compatibility reasons. That said, a lot of the programs that I see teachers use (with the exception of those who teach stuff about computers) do have alternatives on Debian/Ubuntu. (Linux Mint is a nice combination of Debian and Ubuntu :) )
Anyone thinking of switching from Windows to Linux (or even just trying out Linux) might do well to check out Linux Mint. This is probably the most Windows-like distro around, and has all the power and functionality of Windows, and the desktop looks and feels a lot like Windows 7, with a start menu, taskbar and so on. It also has a ton of other cool stuff like multiple virtual desktops and system snapshots etc, but the average Windows user isn't going to need most of that stuff. The app-store-like Software Manager is a delight to use, and updates are easily managed and non-intrusive I've used Linux Mint as my daily driver for well over a decade now and never looked back. Yes I still use windows for games and a handful of niche applications that don't play nicely in Wine, but the only system that I have connected to the internet is the Linux one - all others are offline, with data being moved on and off them via flash drives and usb hard drives. Most home Windows users spend 99% of the time in the web browser, so it really doesn't matter what OS is running underneath it. The software compatibility issues are nowhere near as much of a problem now as they were 10-20 years ago, and modern Linux distros will bne able to handle almost all the requirements of most Windows users - the exception being gamers who would probably be better off staying with Windows, but for everyday general household computer usage, Linux Mint makes a perfect and totally free alternative, and the installer can effortlessly set up a Windows / Linux dual-boot system if that's what you need, giving you the best of both worlds. And of course one of the real killer advantages of Linux is that you can boot the OS from a DVD or a flash drive, so you can try it out without having to install it on your hard drive (though naturally if you do, then it runs a lot faster) Linux Mint is very highly recommended for anyone who wants to get away from Microsoft's increasingly intrusive corporate practices, and most people using it in a home environment will barely notice that they're not using Windows (especially if you install one of the many Windows-based desktop themes - though even the default one looks enough like Windows not to scare most people off) Also, the command line thing is not really that much of an issue anymore. Sure you might have to use it very occasionally, but that applies to Windows as well, and these days, pretty much anything that an average user is ever likely to do will have a GUI. It might have been true 20 years ago, but in the last ten years, Linux has really caught up. I know there are plenty of hardcore Linux tinkerers out there who like to do everything in the command line, and that's fair enough as it gives you immense power over the system, but for most users, they're not going to need it very often if at all...
Yes installing software offline on Linux can be a huge pain but that can change with Snaps, Flatpak and AppImage cuz all dependencies can be stored in single .snap, .flatpak and .appimage. Users can simply download .snap for example from website like .exe and run it and it will install offline using Gnome Software as it supports .snap and .flatpak. More and more Linux distros are starting to support Snaps and Flatpak.
Linux mvp What is your distro or choice? I've used manjaro and recently started using arch, still setting up some stuff 2 days in. This is on vbox btw I will switch fully but when I get used to arch, I'll try debian too, gentoo is scary though
My dad used to call me several times per month when he had Windows (8 & 8.1 on the most recent system). It got incredibly slow after 2-2.5 years, so I talked him into Linux Mint (I had misplaced my Ubuntu drive and was to lazy to re-download at 5mbps). That was 4 years ago and I've received 0 tech support calls since. I did have to show him around Linux once, but, despite using Windows 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, not ME, XP, Vista (briefly before having me install XP), 7, 8, & 8.1 over at least 20 years, he took to it like a fish takes to water. I really think ThioJoe is underestimating Linux. Also, who does that many offline installs? Even when I've done offline installs, it really isn't difficult and I've only needed to install dependencies once. A lot of Windows programs have dependencies too, like Adobe air. I like dependencies. If I need a dependency for two programs, you avoid installing two copies for no reason.
So much this. Changed my GF's PC over from Windows Vista when it ran out of support by Microsoft, to Linux Mint XFCE. Zero problems. That good, I used a Dell Optiplex with a HDMI card that also used to run Vista, converted to Linux Mint Cinnamon. Bought a wireless keyboard. Voila, full blown PC through a TV with VICE, Kodi, and MAME. Bloody fantastic, she loves it.
My wife is a writer and cannot connect a monitor to save her life. Hated win 10. I put Linux mint on her computer and she loves it along with WPS office.
@DeathNote laptop Linux traditionally required TLP to maximize battery lifetime. Agreed not ideal. However recent versions are more and more battery capable, indeed I was listening to a respected Linux device/podcaster recently talking about achieving 12hr battery life on one of his machines.
Christian Weissmuller Well it’s more of a want and not a need. You see, you don’t need a computer on your phone but most people wanted one when it was first introduced. Before that people were still making phone calls with ease. So yea, you got a phone, you don’t need to spend more of your hard earned money on a smartphone. It’s just a luxury, and now that the prices are a staggering 1000$ for some bullshit ass Apple phone, I’ll just stick to my Samsung S4(best phone I’ve ever owned).
Actually OpenGL is a better graphics platform but overall I think DirectX is a better API. Games on Linux run worst because lack of driver support; However some games actually run just as good if not better on Linux so it depends.
I love both. I don't feel the need to religiously hate one and worship another like a damn cult. That's why I distance myself from the Linux community. They're all lunatics.
I've been used Linux for 3 years. Here is my experience: - Windows: I always have 100% disk issue. That is bad - Windows: control panel is too complicated. New windows 10 has new interface, but it is worse: it is like old style mixes with new style. I've tried Cinnamon, Gnome3, XFCE, MATE on Linux and there is no complicate control panel (Settings, ... just the name) - Linux: Graphic drivers may not as good as windows. p/s: I am using Debian based distro.
@MissRiaElaine Fedora, Cent OS and Ubuntu are backed by enterprises -> Red hat & Canonical. I'd recommend a non-enterprise distro like Solus or Deepin.
I used Windows since I was 8 years old. Neighbors had given us an old desktop computer that ran Windows 95. So I learned some DOS and used Windows for the next 15 years. In my 20s I got tired of my laptops inexplicably crashing and never working again, so I bought a cheap chromebook, just to stop spending money on computers. I have to say the ChromeOS is really intuitive and I like it. The only real drawback is the lack of compatibility. It's the only things that regularly frustrates me. At the same time that frustration is balanced out by ease of use and security. I like it so much that I've started to learn more about Linux. Now, mind, I am a bit of a technophobe and a luddite and know little about computers, but even I can see that Linux is better, and hopefully, if more people got interested in it, then its biggest drawback, lack of compatibility and software, will be solved.
Actually look it up a Chromebook can run a standard Linux environment with a terminal might want to check that out you might be able to install some stuff
I have a laptop with Windows 7. I can't connect to the wifi in ANY public library, I can connect to wifi found elsewhere. I've had numerous people try to help me, we've tried everything. Then one guy put in a Linux boot disc and was able to easily connect to the Wifi at the public library. Yeah, Linux can do it, Windows could not. What the Hell? I like Linux, but don't want to learn a new OS. Incompetent Microsoft is forcing me to change. I used to have a Laptop with windows 10 also. It was stolen. As I recall I wasn't able to connect to the Library wifi with it either. I was using a different wifi available from nearby, but now you need password or something so I can't. I connect to the network, but the login screen will not come up no matter what. only works in Linux.
My first computer was a Commodore VIC-20... because it was new back then... not an eBay find... That's when computers made you think...Now just point and click... IF it doesn't do EVERYTHING for you, it's no good.
I've used linux for over a year and I have not ONCE, ever heard of dependency hell. I always use the repos and it works amazing. In my opinion its easyer than installing on windows. Also I used to hate uninstalling software on windows, you could olny do one at a time
Of course he was talking about it in about the only scenario in which it might occur these days - installing on a computer that isn't connected to the internet. It was something that was way more likely to occur many years ago. I remember going through dependency hell like 15 years ago when trying to install software that wasn't available directly from the distro I was using. It would go something like this: run the installer. it would say that there were dependencies x, y, and z. It wouldn't tell you that dependency x was part of some other package with a completely different name. It wouldn't tell you that dependency y had 5 dependencies of its own. It wouldn't tell you that you already had dependency z, just a newer version. All of that is highly unlikely now. I also thought it was funny when he said that he had never heard of anything like that on windows. Well, maybe he is a bit too young to have experienced it, but when dependency hell was an actual thing, Windows had DLL hell. Maybe he should do a little more research before he makes claims like that.
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh for a lot of ppl its kinda uncomfortable to have 2 OSs on the same pc tbh
Because it's a quarter of the weight of Windows 10 and doesn't have nearly the same amount of services, background processes, settings to load, etc. as Windows 10, so of course it's going to be lighter on resources.
So true even KDE and Gnome is just quarter the memory that Windows uses and even the ram is quite full, linux doesnt crash just freezes but still easier to get out of.
You can actually download a full windows 10 iso from the MS site and install it without the product key. It won't be activated, but it's pretty much fully functional regardless of not being activated.
i would like to interject here for a moment what you are referring to as Linux is in fact GNU/linux, linux is not an operating system on its own but rather a core component of a fully functional GNU system.
the only thing keeping me on windows 10 is the adobe creative cloud. Windows integrated spyware is only going to get worse as time goes on. Linux Mint is pretty intuitive of all the distros I have used so far.
Linux mint for laptops is awesome to use is easy ! You always use window with linux as dual boot partition window and linux by share the hard drive with both and use wine to share window in Linux!
I'm the extended family's I.T. guy. Now that I put 90% of them on Linux Mint, life is good. No more wasting my time on their stupid viruses and spamware. Just the gamers are on Windows. And they love how much faster their computer is without all the Microsoft bloatware.
You should try out Solus OS. Games do just fine with the optimized Solus runtime, and the desktop doesn't look like it's 10+ years old. Literally, Mint's desktop looks like my old Linux desktop 10 years old.
Migrated from windows to mac in 1999 and to linux in 2011. I never looked back. I am dealing with critical data on a daily basis and can't afford the security risks in windows and mac.
This virus argument is not very great. Because it basicaly boils down to: "Few people use Linux so no one makes virus for it. So let's use Linux everybody!" If you don't see the problem with that argument you don't understand that more users means more users.
It's not that simple though. Linux has more resistance to viruses in the first place. Almost any change to the system requires root access. Also Linux is somewhat self healing.
The best thing about Windows 10 it only takes 30 minutes to install.and you only have to spend another 2 days turning stuff off and uninstalling apps only to do it all over again when it updates.
You can also partition your storage (lets say 100gb out of 500 gb storage capacity) and then you can play around with Linux while still being able to switch back to windows if there is some feature that you need on windows that isn't supported on Linux. I highly recommend that people try using a basic version of Linux. I learned an amazing amount about coding when I used Linux ubuntu back in the day. I don't use the OS anymore, but I think the amount you can learn about the inner workings of an OS while using Linux as well as the related software is unparalleled compared to MacOS or Windows OS.
There are Distros like Puppy Linux you don't need to install to use. I know puppy so I will explain it. Presuming you have a CD/DVD drive on your machine and can boot from it, Puppy will boot from CD to make a working Linux system running entirely in RAM.. When you want to shut down, you can save all your settings and work into a file on the hard drive or on a memory stick. The process of bring it all in from the CD to the memory can take a while but from that point on, it really flies. Programs load lightning fast.
Ken Smith Most popular linux distros (ubuntu, mint, etc) offer a live CD/USB version. There's also no reason to use a CD when booting from USB has been a thing for more than a decade. I generally recommend Mint to newbies
Kendokaas: Yes, mint is reportedly quite good. The reason I refer to the CD booting rather than the USB booting is because some oldish desk top machines are harder to get to do that reliably. The CD can be given the boot priority so with the CD not in the OS on the harddrive runs and the next boot with the CD runs the copy from the CD without having to choose it. The USB boot doesn't get remembered.
I can't really argue with you on the points you made. I choose to run Linux because I have more of a say as to what goes on in my OS. Also, you made a good point about familiarity. I was fortunate enough to attend a school that used Linux and Mac computers vs Windows. In most cases, however, that isn't the situation. Given the more "tech dependent" schools and classes are becoming, seeing a Linux course added to school curriculum seems inevitable. Yes, Hardcore gamers or "Proprietary" software users would not get along well with basically any Linux distro, but, in general, it's not as big a switch as it used to be. Some flavors are designed specifically to mimic a Windows environment to ease the transition. In the end, it's all a matter of preference for most people. A very well put together presentation, regardless of bias. Keep up the good work.
Linux (PROS) - most stable, free software (depending on version but most all are free), breathes new life into older computers due to the much LOWER demand on resources (requires far less CPU power and MAYBE 4gb ram to work comfortably.), Linux (most anyway) are free and you can try them without installing them, linux leaves NO traces on your computer if you do not install it, has no preinstalled spyware, most work 'out of the box', fairly EASY to install for most versions (a few clicks needed, and most auto install everything including partitioning), HIGHLY MALWARE RESISTANT, a little harder to hack (most weaknesses are in the browsers just like windows has), and many other benefits), does NOT need to be defragmented. Linux can be run from Flash drive (best) or CD/DVD/BD disk (a bit slower). Laptop battery life is longer between charges depending on version and use. You can easily spoof hardware ID's (see forums on methods). Offers KDE desktop and Cinnamon Desktop both are generally 'full featured'. Linux OS upgrades are usually free. Linux (CONS) - lack of drivers for *SOME* computers, Not as good for some of the hardline games younger people like to play (just get an XBox or similar if that is your issue), Lack of compatibility with Windows (some exceptions though - office related items usually have no problem going back and forth), once in a while you *MIGHT* need to do command line but rarely if ever, most should have a minimal amount on computer using experience (at least know how to point and click anyway). Linux is best for machines about 3 years old or older but not more than a machine that used to run XP. Puppy Linux may still be able to run older systems. The older the computer or less resources it has the lower the desktop version needed for comfortable use (KDE is the top one) WIndows (PROS) - Most compatible with other Windows software and systems. Best probably for new computer users just learning. Most things are fully automated. VAST amount of software out there for Windows (Linux has a lot less available but they do cover most common software desires) works better than Linux for heave graphics gameplay (but MAC beats BOTH for graphics items). Windows (CONS) - RESOURCE HOG (many windows need at least 8gb ram to 32gb ram to work comfortably and a core i5 or better CPU), PREINSTALLED SPYWARE AND MALWARE (under the guise of being *necessary* for YOUR protection, easier to hack. allows other companies including governments to see much of what you do and allow THEM to control some of what you can and cannot do, Microsoft can lock you out of your own data and possibly your own computer. Requires antimalware program, antivirus program, and destroys any semblance of privacy you might expect. MANY CONS for windows. Windows usually can not be run from Disc or Flash Drive, lower laptop battery life (more frequent charging needed). Allows everyone out there to access your hardware ID's unless you take extraordinary steps to block them and such ID's can track you everywhere. You usually have to pay for OS upgrades and most software. On dual booting, Windows DEMANDS it comes first on the hard drive and then you could install linux as a dual boot. Note: About Mac. Mac is a CLOSED SOURCE version of Linux. It too is filled with the same spyware issues that windows has and is far less compatible with windows than linux is (read/write/format NTFS is one issue most have). MAC is far superior to all other operating systems when it comes to graphics development. Mack is VERY VERY resistant to some issues (due to the BIOS they use). Much depends on who you are and what you intend to use the computer for. However, if all you do is general online things like youtube, emails, surfing, chatting, browser based flash games, similar, more privacy, linux is best. Gameplay - Windows. Graphics - Mac. I have converted others to Linux over the years and all but ONE never went back. Reason? Proprietary medical software that demands Windows Only. BeOS is the most hack resistant operating system ever built. But NOT for new computer users. It generally takes a computer user with loads of time to learn and know command line. Qubes OS is OK but requires a LOT of fiddling to get to use it. Not recommended for less than computer 'experts'. Penetration System versions of Linux also takes a masters degree (kidding) to use. VERY HARD to use. Linux stands for Lite Unix for those who didn't know. Unix is the most common commercial server used on the planet. Microsoft is working on open source items for it's operating system. Have to wait and see how they can incorporate that. Just some food for thought from my personal experience and reading common things about each. Security note about the government - no system is immune to being spied on by the 'Five Eyes'. NSA uses 'air gap' among other tools that go right through the best defenses. Many hardware components now have built in government spyware on the hardware itself. Not even BeOs is immune (but that depends). So not worth trying to do things you shouldn't do with a computer. What people need to focus on usability for their specific needs and to take steps to keep commercial and private adversaries OUT of your business. Identity theft - stealing your money is bad enough but stealing your FREEDOM (committing crimes under your identity) can be devastating. Avoid Windows as much as you can for that reason.
Notice: Using a live version of Linux will NOT protect you from Law Enforcement (only slows them down a bit). It DOES however make it very hard for your spouse to find anything (wink) lol Windows ALWAYS keeps things even if it says it does not.
My daughter was about to throw away a Dell Latitude laptop from 2008 or so with a 70gb HDD and non-functioning Win7. I was looking for a second laptop, but couldn't justify the price of a new one. £32 for a 250gig SSD, Ubuntu at first and then Linux Cinnamon later, and the damn thing is as fast as my main laptop running Win 10. I only use it for internet, home network and writing professionally but I prefer it. I have a desktop with my main programmes so have little need for them on my laptops.
@@WritewheelUK Go try Mx Linux 17.1. Talk about fast and smooooth..... Even videos seem to look better when watching them. I just tried Mint 18.3 - HATED IT. Looked too much like win10 and far too hard to do much. Couldn't even sort desktop icons! I tried Robolinux. It too was pretty quick BUT typing in web pages it typed BACKWARDS (but not in all web pages) and it had other issues. I think you will certainly like Mx Linux 17.1.
Excellent Post, couldn't have said it better myself. The best advice is to tweak your computer to do what you want it to do. I don't play any real computer games myself, save for Solitaire, Chess and things like that, which are on both Windows and Linux. What I would like is for Linux to have it so that it's Office system would open up on Microsoft so I could do work on Linux and then send it to coworkers who use Windows and they could open it up and work on it. That is my only gripe with Linux. If you haven't tried a Linux based OS, try it, you will be amazed at how easy it operates and to use.
sorry gotta play devils advocate here, windows doesn't take 8 gigs of ram, and an i5, I ran a windows 10 laptop that had a shitty quad 2012 i3 at 2.4 GHz and 4 gigs of 1333 ram, your statement is objectively false and misleading, not everyone is a code money either, and some people just want to plug and play stuff like on windows. yes, there is a place for windows, yes there is a place for Linux, even a place for Mac users, it's just what people are comfortable with and can adapt to become comfortable with. I am very tech savvy, hardware, and software, I tried for a month to use Linux, but i personally found it annoying that there isn't just an "update button" or to access something I have to type in code in the command line, again, for some people this is fine, but for your average person they just want something for word processing and gaming, not everyone wants the most open source thing, some people want simplicity.
