Krishnan talks about Morrissey's new autobiography with writer and broadcaster, Amy Lamé - a die-hard Morrissey fan. And the author and journalist, Tim Lott..with a little help from Jon Snow. .
That Lott guy had no place to talk about anything in this, regardless of if you are a fan of Morrissey or not, to talk in such a way is completely disreprectful and even quite ignorant. Morrissey has been writing for a long, he's worked very hard and his writings are good. So what you're a published author on the classics? Stop trying to make yourself seem like a massive big deal? This is the same debate in the art world, "oh I spent a month on this painting and your 1 hour painting is in the gallery and not mine how dare you!" - "yeah, but my painting is now more liked than yours"
Morrissey was a published author with two books under his belt before he was a lead singer. I for one was pleased that he was published as a Penguin Classic. Well deserved! He is the only modern author I can read and completely lose myself in the words and story. The man IS the poet of our generation.
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All poets are writers. Nor came you name one song of his which would stand up as poetry without the buoyancy of musical accompaniment, and I say that as some who likes his songs.
ALSO, England has ignore their greatest living icon all throughout his tenure as writer/singer, and for that they (the media - especially NME) should feel ashamed of themselves.
Morrissey is pretty much unique as a musician, as in many of his lyrics stand up as poetry. In fact I'd put him up there with Ginsberg and Kerouac - or rather our uniquely British version of a beat-poet. He gave romanticism back to the country that gave it to the world.
trev moffatt Hahaha Ginsberg? Are you serious. Ginsberg was by far the least interesting, and least talented, of the beats. And he doesn’t belong in the same conversation as Morrissey.
As far as I'm concerned Morrissey has the right to sanction a book release through who ever he chooses. His word holds up regardless of which media it belongs to.
Morrissey's book is fair. I am a huge fan but his book is nothing more than fair. 10 years on it has been forgotten. No one will be pulling this out in 10-20-30 years and say you must read this.
Morrissey, legend, true poet laureate, there is true and reflective prose that encompasses social history and the emotions reflected in it, regardless of whether the royals have the intellect to recognise this. Tim Lott, sorry I don't know who you are, I'll do my best to read your book, but times move forward and if music is the vehicle that carries his poetry, don't get angry and self righteous. Understand that we still ride horses but the motor vehicle just moves faster. Music is the way he encompasses and reaches a wider audience. I hate to say this but maybe penguin recognise in the distant future he will be remembered, loved and respected for his ability to use langue as a tool by many more people than you will be. sounds like you got a case of the sour grapes, lol
Yes i agree with Lott that you cannot judge what a classic is until you've waited a long time. It's like declaring a wine a vintage after 1 month in the cellar.
Lol just hearing Lott go on and on about how long it took him to get on the Penguin Classics label - and Morrissey did it with one book aha. The strength of his lyric-writing alone was going to guaruntee his place on an established book label.
I dont know who that Tim guy is but the ego on him, wanting to make the entire interview about his writing and his hardship. Yawn, not about you it was about Morrissey. Im half way through and thoroughly enjoy it, his writing is like his interviews very eloquent quaint and English with alot of thought to specifics and detail. He's been continuously writing since the 70s he knows a thing or two pfft. this guy needs to get off his pedestal.
A lifelong Morrissey fan, but I have to agree with Tim Lott. It's way too early for us to judge a book as a classic, in its very release, even if written by such an acclaimed writer and cultural icon. Penguin should have waited and gauged. Even Bob Dylan who has written books for half a century now hasn't gotten his dues, and we all know he's no less capable a writer.
Someone suggested he hadn't written it, I said that he clearly had...first half misery, next quarter slagging off the English legal system and the last quarter slagging off everyone he'd ever met...of course he wrote it! Seriously...he has got into my head and it was only when I got to the half way mark that I realised it was funny, now rereading to see if I have missed the point of the first half.
Morrissey and Bob Dylan have both written books, both incredibly talented song smiths, read both and morrissey is slightly better because of his injection of humour. Neither books will be classics but I've read some classics and fell asleep, Ulysses, war and piece, moby dick difficult reads
Blahhhhhhhh . Tim read your book and the bit where your character saw somemone who so closely resembled his dead mum . And he then he just experiences that emotionally volcanic moment of breaking down in tears . That's never left me . He suppressed it for a time . Then he just goes . So beautifully written . Loved that book. Can't recall what it was titled . 🤔
I think Morrissey was taking the piss (not for the first time). Tim Lott?? Never heard of him so he has clearly never written anything worth a wank so don't come on television being self-righteous. Better not ask him about Dylan winning the Nobel prize, eh??
i wonder if james joyce would have felt devalued when scent of roses was published as a penguin classic... i actually kind of agree with lott's point, but the way he made it was distasteful.
I feel very sorry for Tim Lott in this "discussion". Amy Lamè is wearing blinkers so tight to her face, she can see no wider than a pin prick and Krishnan is siding with Amy so fiercely that poor Tim can't get his point across at all. Of course Tim is right, no matter how good anything is it can't become a "classic" instantly; it goes against the definition of it. Classic - "judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind".
Agreed. Tim Lott essentially says, no matter how esteemed you cannot judge a book as a classic for a long time. Amy Lame's response is to say, "But Morrissey is one of the greatest cultural icons this country has ever produced." Thus, she clearly is incapable of understanding Lott's point.
+Matthew Reynolds Lott is correct obviously about the notion of an "instant classic" is ludicrous. However when he made the inflammatory blanket incorrect elitist statement "songwriters aren't writers" he opened himself to critique.
Tim Lott, how to make yourself look arrogant, selfish, rude, dismissive and like a grown man baby in 60 seconds. If you replaced him in this review with Alan Partridge, nobody would do a double-take. He speaks and acts like he has been written to sound incredibly rude.
I don't know who's the nice little spectacle's man, and I believe he's a great writer. But compare Moryssey to Kajagoogoo??. To say the least, he doesn't has a clue of who's Moryssey and what kind of things he writes. None.
I really love Morrissey and I've enjoyed so much the book. In my opinion, it's very well-written, such as his lyrics.I mostly agree with Lott because this woman has no reasonable argument, just how she loves Morrissey. I do love him as well, I can be a crazy fan sometimes but, come on, if you don't have proper arguments to defend something like this, then why do you accept to come on television? Has anybody noticed how does she get more and more nervous as the interview goes on? That's because she's not quite sure of what to say against Lott. What I'm trying to say is: Press and television is behind all this, they could have called anyone else who knows what to say, but they want it to look this way...
She's getting more agitated, not "nervous". She can't believe that someone who is comparing their work to the likes of A Clockwork Orange is being as narrow-minded as to say that Morrissey's writing, whether lyrically or in his book, isn't as important as being an author. Morrissey has changed the musical landscape of modern history, whereas this a***hole is angry that Penguin have recognised this, because they know how important he is to British history.
Sour grapes indeed from the speccy fella. If I being a time served bricklayer of 30 years get to work on a grand house worth a million.and another less experienced bricklayer comes and works along side do I go to the foreman and say excuse me but what gives him the right to work on such a prestigious project. He would turn to me and say most likely mind your own fucking business and get on with your own work.
I'm a sincere fan of Morrissey but the book is not a Penguin Classic and never will be. Heavily stylised prose lacks a writer's confident voice. A precious artefact, nonetheless.
How dare you judge Mr Tim Lott!! How dare you use the word "cheapen" - you are utterly embarrassing and obviously have a bigoted idea of what good literature is.
