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Is Online Therapy A Scam? 

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Danielle Carr, Assistant Professor at the Institute for Society and Genetics at UCLA, joins Emma to discuss mental health. The need for mental health treatment skyrockets during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic. Rules changed allowing patients to get mental health medications easier to allow people to stay home and not be exposed to the virus. Online therapy outfits like BetterHelp stepped in. But was the treatment on these apps as good as traditional therapy?
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Can you expand on The Better Help and the kind of explosion of these kinds of apps and quick fixes for mental health that I would imagine quite profitable for some of these startups? But does this have the same level of oversight that traditional doctor-patient relationships have? Like how have they been able to exploit this as a Marketplace? Because it seems quite dicey. Well, I'm glad to have the chance to talk about this. Because I think a lot of people don't realize this is happening. There was some coverage of cerebral specifically by The Wall Street Journal. And I want to say there was an investigative report by Bloomberg. But it didn't get as much of a press cycle as I thought it would. And of course, cerebral is not the only company doing this. They were just the most egregious. So one of the things that happened during covid of course there had already been telepsychiatry but the kind of sea change in the market had not yet happened. During covid the rule mandating that you have to see your provider in person at least once to get the prescription for schedule two medication so we're talking Adderall we're talking a bunch of Controlled Substances right. That rule was lifted for obvious reasons. but this is why there was suddenly this kind of we were all getting ads that were like do you want Adderall? You can basically have some. right on Instagram? and of course, there are these that are extremely profitable these are also it's not totally clear what forms of data these apps are collecting on us. So for instance Better Help is currently a class action lawsuit against Better Help because of the very poor privacy protections that were in place for what is, you know, an important medical encounter. And so there's a movement right now as you can imagine from these companies to lobby for instance to keep the rules that were instant for covid in place. Because a great deal of The Profit model depends on those loopholes. I think people should think very seriously about that. but so there's so like that's wrong right? We know that's wrong. But in another sense maybe even more Global sense and this is not to indict any of the very hard-working and well-meaning and often heroic medical providers who are working on these platforms albeit in an increasingly kind of gig economy model. Which results in you knowing degradations and quality of care. This is not to indict them at all. But just to say it's not totally clear that this is the type of thing that is going to really make a serious difference with population levels of mental and emotional distress.

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@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 Год назад
A marketplace for therapy is incredibly dangerous
@croissant4131
@croissant4131 2 месяца назад
that has existed since the inception of therapy, but this is an unregulated gig economy marketplace for therapy
@russell2910
@russell2910 Год назад
I attending in person therapy at a place called best self in north Collins, ny. They prescribed drugs without a doctor overseeing. My couceller had a scale in her office and said that I had to weigh myself every week, if I ever lost weight, she told me she would have me institutionalised. I attended a therapy group called pros, in orchard park, NY. Counsellors let clients promote the great replacement theory during classes repeatedly. So sure, I imagine online isn't immune from weird shit happening.
@philwilson609
@philwilson609 Год назад
Little known fact: Therapists are often unable to pay the rent or buy groceries. Some depend on public assistance. Many community mental health agencies are providing therapy to impoverished clients who are suffering from the stress, trauma and material struggles endemic to American poverty. The entire mental health industry is circumscribed by larger issues. The ad hoc, for profit, post pandemic mental health business is a meager answer to the enormous social mess that it is supposed to address. I worked in community health for 35 years and saw action on the front lines.
@francisvillegas8421
@francisvillegas8421 2 месяца назад
No therapist deserves to make a living they are all scammers and need to get a real job
@aureliusp1330
@aureliusp1330 Год назад
6:28 I agree, I think simply giving people the means to live a dignified life would go a long way to addressing mental health problems. I suffer from depression and anxiety, the causes of which are not related to broader societal issues, so I understand there's more to mental health problems than societal issues and we can't address all of it by just giving people money or decomodifying basic necessities, but mental health issues have become so wide spread over the past few decades and there needs to be societal solutions. A large portion of the population didn't just start experiencing personal trauma these past few decades, it was caused by the fact it's an immense struggle to just get by for the vast majority of people.
@avirichar4981
@avirichar4981 Год назад
So true, the overlaps of larger situational and conditional/positional types of difficulties/diseases/symptoms/diagnoses/illnesses/issues, overlapping in symptoms with the more specifically rooted and/or chronic kinds, as they mentioned in the vid's end really about the large umbrella thing...just serves to ignore actual distinctions, when people who have power but don't really care want to find whatever ways to confuse things (or just neglect to find ways to un-confuse them), as status quo corruption 101 in so many fields/industries. It serves their selfish interests to conflate things, and to on the other side of the same coin of profiteering, to create arbitrary nonsensical differentiations that are off track as well, and on and on in the modes of basically clever conniving, uncaring and really not at all smart in the long or short run, kinds of ways, harming society *and* economy, and stability of civil institutions, all at the same time, just for the sake of hyper-individualistic benefit at the expense of everyone. We really need to keep making clear what's real in ways like this (your post, and the vid), because the whole game for people who exploit others is to muddy things as much as possible, and pick off as many of the people stumbling around, trying to get by as a consequence, as they can. It's sad, and yes depressing and anxiety-causing, that this is how we have an ongoing unnecessary obstacle to everyone's well being, playing out, but it's one more changeable and preventable kind of version of these conditions/symptoms and natural reactions to an effed up, scary and grief-worthy reality that we don't actually have to societally and economically and politically leave as is (and where possible in its extensions, individually and interpersonally, but yeah, at scale especially).
@coreysmithson4002
@coreysmithson4002 Год назад
I did better help when I couldn't afford more traditional therapy. It might be different for others but all I got was "hey, have you tried Journaling or getting sleep?" If that's what helps people, great. But therapy should be accessible the same way that basic medical care should be
@Celestina0
@Celestina0 Год назад
That sinking feeling when you bear your soul to a new therapist and in return they give you a sheet of breathing exercises
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
@@Celestina0 Similar to talking to a doctor about a pain, so they write you a prescription for "whatever".
@mgiantpurplepanda
@mgiantpurplepanda Год назад
I don't think we yet have the proper language to talk about depression and anxiety in a medical sense. I've dealt with depression for most of my life and been on 6 medications. Finding the one that worked didn't mean I was better it meant I could get out of bed 29 days a month rather than 2 days a month. It's a life line, not a cure
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Год назад
I mean, sometimes a lifeline is a sort of cure. Definitely feel that way about my ADHD meds
@mgiantpurplepanda
@mgiantpurplepanda Год назад
@@MrGksarathy I'm on both and I don't feel like either are a cure, but that's what I'm getting at it's so different because no two brains are exactly the same, always little differences.
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Год назад
@@mgiantpurplepanda I mean, it hasn't fixed all my problems, but it has done a lot for me, especially at work. Then again, I was told not to expect it to be a cure-all, so...
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
@@mgiantpurplepanda were you on any medications before you had been diagnosed with depression?
@jodimarie379
@jodimarie379 Год назад
Pills don't teach skills - but they may help you get or stay in a place where you can learn/use those skills ...
@Usagi393
@Usagi393 Год назад
Sometime, online therapy is the only option for folks. Other times, it’s like the Wild Wild West and people walk away more harmed than helped. I would say it’s not necessarily a scam, but for people to definitively be cautious and don’t be afraid to walk away if the online therapist you are matched with is not meeting your needs
@shelbykuenning2575
@shelbykuenning2575 Год назад
As is also true of in-person therapy.
@Usagi393
@Usagi393 Год назад
@@shelbykuenning2575 I think there are more regulations/recourse for in-person therapy compared to the online world
@toastiesburned9929
@toastiesburned9929 Год назад
​@@shelbykuenning2575 so true. When I was young, my parents took me to a "Christian" psychotherapist... Basically the toxicity doubled down and things got worse, which I was blamed for.
@danielmikula1375
@danielmikula1375 Год назад
Rural communities are especially underserved when it comes to mental health access, even more so as rural hospitals shut down.
@Bum_Hip
@Bum_Hip Год назад
Anyone have a TLDR version of this? After 7 minutes of not getting to the point I gave up on the video.
@fighttheevilrobots3417
@fighttheevilrobots3417 Год назад
I think the title is poorly worded. I think the main concept here is that therapy is not going to help if your misery is caused by political and social culture. I know that if I had grown up in a culture that told me my fat body was beautiful and worthy of love, 90% of my mental illness would never have occurred.
@steppenwolf3252
@steppenwolf3252 Год назад
I don't know if that's true, Fight. Your therapist can encourage you to go within, discover your bliss and follow it to fulfill yourself & become the best you, you can be. This will mitigate any misery caused by political and social culture.
@waize-1383
@waize-1383 Год назад
Therapy is extremely important it isn't just the end all be on all. We should be able to address mental health issues and the misery caused by political and social culture simultaneously.
@anecdotal_mattybs5435
@anecdotal_mattybs5435 Год назад
Enjoyed this conversation a lot. I was an aspiring therapist/psychologist until I went through university over here in the uk and discovered the fragility of many psychology academic egos. A lot of them seem intent on trying to prove that psychology is a science and that they can then treat everything “objectively” as manipulable variables in a big experiment that they are just observing. That would be fine, but unfortunately it feeds directly into the governments aspiration to treat therapy as something they can use and wheel out a lot of dodgy numbers and statistics on their shiny new(ish) IAPT (increasing access to psychological therapies) which is only there to get people back into work and paying taxes. Things like that are “evidence led” but only “treat” people who probably are just a little down and anxious because of all the stresses from the cost of living crisis, covid, extreme inequality etc. it looks good for both the professors who fudge the numbers on success rates and the government who says they are dealing with mental health. Meanwhile, those more seriously ill cannot find any treatments for actual long term conditions because the sappy psychologists are playing with their IAPT toys and trying to flog the concepts to other countries, ignoring more serious issues. Over here IAPT is becoming like a religion, being applied to everything in the most surface level, virtue signalling way, as if the world burning down around us can be treated in 6-8 sessions on how to re-frame things……..sorry ranting 🤦‍♂️😛
@avirichar4981
@avirichar4981 Год назад
Good rant actually, and over here in Grate-ing ol' 'Murica, the same sorts of issues apply obviously, in different metastasizing ways maybe but yeah...reductivism and greed and etc. manifestations of what frankly seems to be essentially a Malpractice Industrial Complex, medically overall, with the whole different but related-issues thing of how people make their bread and butter, from academia to healthcare practice to all the profiteers financially co-opting and corrupting anything they can get their sweaty depraved mitts on, especially if it has the whitewashing veneer of launderability that comes with supposedly being about "helping" people or being for the "public," on the surface and in the name. Sorry for the rant back, but yeah, agreed, on the excellent convo in the vid.
@Radocruz
@Radocruz Год назад
Please find some way to twist therapy back onto the system, it works but its hijacked by corrupt losers, so much potential wasted by the system.
@Boobalopbop
@Boobalopbop Год назад
I thought about doing it, even filled out a form on Better Help, but as I was filling it out I’m thinking Omg. I’m entering all these very private issues to something on the internet and it feels uncomfortable… So I know I’ll never be comfortable video chatting therapy with a stranger. I am old school. I see what ever you do or say on the internet lives forever as a bad thing.
@ChairmanTrump
@ChairmanTrump Год назад
It’s actually not a big deal. I’ve been doing it for years. Extremely expensive(of course)but worth it if you find the right person.
@Boobalopbop
@Boobalopbop Год назад
@@ChairmanTrump I just can’t imagine saying certain things on video, that could perhaps be seen by my children some day.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
That's probably smart, data mining is a huge problem, it's everywhere. Of course at the same time, it's not like avoiding online therapy makes any difference. If you've ever been on the internet for absolutely any reason whatsoever, people have your personal information that you never consented to giving.
@Sovgoth
@Sovgoth Год назад
A RU-vidr called Jacob Geller did an amazing video on this concept of online therapy apps called "Fixing My Brain with Automated Therapy", I highly recommend it because it talks about the very same kind of personal data security issues you mention you were worried about. The short of it is, you are completely reasonable in your hesitation.
@nancerod7193
@nancerod7193 Год назад
Hi I do telehealth therapy for a non profit origination my experience my client feel more open via telehealth. I’d say what ever makes you feel most comfortable & def connecting with your therapist is important
@shaneyaw4542
@shaneyaw4542 Год назад
I think they nailed a huge proportion of the etiology of our current mental health epidemic: i.e. the extremely high cost of living arising from the unaddressed wealth and income inequality in this country. Therefore, it does make perfect sense to invest in social programs such as housing and food security, which is economically and socially less costly and more beneficial than medical interventions.
@happyliving1922
@happyliving1922 Год назад
Having a better economy will help treat biological depression. Being forced to work two jobs on top of a mental illness is the worst.
@janepappas1032
@janepappas1032 Год назад
The issue isn’t seeing a person virtually / via Telehealth or telephonically. The issue are these fly by night, exploitative, get rich quick companies that ONLY offer online therapy and not within, and coordinated with a larger health care and social system. How experienced do you expect a clinical on said platform will be when they are not receiving fair compensation? Also, therapist often coordinate with psychiatrists and other members of a health care team? Where is the opportunity for that? Of course I understand we are more anxious and depressed due to systemic economic and social reasons too, but the issue of these new companies marketed directly to patients is an additional separate issue compounding the matter.
@churchofthelambofsat
@churchofthelambofsat Год назад
Therapy is not magic, and a lot of therapists don't have a clue what they're doing. I haven't found one who suits my needs in real life after 30 years, so I can't tell you how long it would take to determine the effectiveness of online therapy.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
The effectiveness depends on the client, not necessarily the therapist. A good therapist you have connection with can be helpful, but the common element of recovery and success is the client.
@churchofthelambofsat
@churchofthelambofsat Год назад
@Jay Mann l've heard this claim, and while it's true that the client has to be willing to work, more often than not, it's an excuse to blame the client when the therapist brings nothing to the table. Almost all of my progress has been made with support groups of peers that I found myself.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
If the therapist brings nothing, sure, however regardless if the therapist brings nothing or something, the common element of recovery and success is the client. I'm glad you found progress with support groups, but your support brought only something. Much of the progress came from you. Keep it up.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
@deedeetops True, but mental health affects everyone on the economic spectrum.
@bernan1
@bernan1 Год назад
@@jaymann5180 a good therapist has a tool box to use and realizes somethings that apply to one client, though very similar, may not apply or register at all with another.
@ThisChangeIsAwful
@ThisChangeIsAwful Год назад
I just tried online therapy for the first time ever. This is no lie a brief paraphrase of what happened Me: I have a drug addiction, I use it constantly as a coping mechanism. I'm spending $50 a day. Them: Have you thought about buying just once a week? I think the problem is we have a far greater demand for mental therapy then qualified people to fill those roles so free market capitalism is coming in to soak up that money.
@toastiesburned9929
@toastiesburned9929 Год назад
Wow, what an obvious scam...
@toastiesburned9929
@toastiesburned9929 Год назад
I think you're on to something...
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
I think leftism is the disease you're suffering from, drug addiction is just a symptom.
@kurohime23
@kurohime23 Год назад
I’m so sorry about your experience. And yeah definitely think you got a point there
@daoistdansah54
@daoistdansah54 Год назад
that's what is called a "harm reduction" approach to addiction and it is evidence-based( human nature being what it is, most will reject a top-down approach if told to just outright stop using. The aim is actually to empower you, provided there are no acute safety issues.)
@JohnMoseley
@JohnMoseley Год назад
Even a lot of private shrinks now work exclusively online. I tried to get a therapist in my area recently and the first two I contacted were like this. I asked one how that was supposed to work if I had people in my house I might not want hearing my sessions. He replied, 'Do you have a car?' Felt like one of a few things the internet had ruined.
@theonetruetim
@theonetruetim Год назад
Ok. I liked this. Not anywhere near as basic as ; housing, food-insecurity, and discrimination to explain or illustrate the broader (very REAL) problem, but at least the caveats are placed well. (better) Emma- you good people. Thank you for continuing to learn. Rare quality in folks, and it IS noticed and appreciated.
@beautydragon7616
@beautydragon7616 Год назад
As a counselor in training, I will say what you are talking about is a social-cultural perspective and is taught to counselors as a way to view mental illness rather than a legal model or medical model. So things are changing and we are learning to see things from a different perspective
@thebeigesheep6132
@thebeigesheep6132 Год назад
I was always terrified of the idea of going to therapy because of fear of judgement.. better help allowed me to start anonymously. It was a good baby step that later allowed me to gain the confidence to go seek therapy in person. Now I have a great therapist and I'm almost finished with school to become a mental health clinician myself. I think it's a net positive
@tristessa771
@tristessa771 Год назад
It's called the biopsychosocial model of mental illness. Biological, psychological, and social factors all play into it. And depression is a complex thing, there may be many different subtypes we're just all calling depression. Just because we don't fully understand something *right now* doesn't mean anything. We do know there is a biological basis for mental illness, the genetic basis is clear, but the diagnosing and treating of mental illness of course is not as cut and dry as prescribing an antibiotic for tuberculosis because we don't live in a Star Trek world and there are also psychological and social factors.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
You can always just leave the leftist cult. That's the first step towards regaining your own mind.
@waize-1383
@waize-1383 Год назад
@@markzuckergecko621 You can always get therapy that is the first step towards solving the trauma with your stepdad.
@waize-1383
@waize-1383 Год назад
Correct it kind of threw me off, when it seemed like she was saying there wasn't biological factors. There are def biological underpinnings to mental illness its just multifaceted like you stated.
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Год назад
As someone who's benefitted from telehealth, no it isn't on its face, but it definitely needs tighter regulations and a higher standard of care.
@Lynara
@Lynara Год назад
I'm currently in online therapy and it has been wonderful.
@Kira-zm7vy
@Kira-zm7vy Год назад
I'm doing online therapy because there are only a handful of people in my state that specialize in what I need. IMO it seems a little better because I can be in my comfort area instead of an office setting. But also not as good as in person in ways. Technology problems are a pain. Sometimes video calls don't work the best and we have to just do a traditional phone call
@lachousalle31
@lachousalle31 Год назад
I don't like therapy because I'm an introvert and possibly on the spectrum. So it's just an hour of awkwardness and having nothing to talk about and trying to think of random problems I have to talk about so I can just get the session over with.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
If that's the case, I would ask you to either sit alone and ask yourself questions to solve your own problems. Good questions to ask are 1) What are things I can change to make my life better, and 2) what are things I can't change that I have to accept. That's the basis of therapy.
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 Год назад
I feel the exact same way. I have my 1st appointment tomorrow and I'm really nervous. Also on the spectrum.
@124085
@124085 Год назад
@@kushclarkkent6669 Hope your appointment went well! Best of luck!
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 Год назад
@@124085 Hey thanks! I really appreciate it. It went really well actually. I needed to vent and she could tell. She let me use the entire hour to let it all out which was great. If I had that type of support and understanding in my personal life things would be A LOT better. I'm going back in a couple weeks.
@peachteatina
@peachteatina Год назад
I had a hard time listening to the interviewee, didn’t catch her name. You wanna get your point across, speak more clearly. Listening to this gave me anxiety. I still don’t understand what her position is on this topic.
@xiaolinstyle
@xiaolinstyle Год назад
I'll be honest, I can usually get a pretty good sense of where you're coming from and what your position is on any given video, this one? I have no idea...
@Neofilmcritic
@Neofilmcritic Год назад
Online therapy saved my life
@scottoleary3726
@scottoleary3726 Год назад
Working with a qualified person through telehealth can work well. I would stay away from the practices that are basically fast food Chains like better health. When I was forced into doing telehealth due to COVID, I used DOXY which was a secure, confidential way for me to see people.
@radnukespeoplesminds
@radnukespeoplesminds Год назад
Ai therapy bots are the worst. Wysa once gave me a glen beck quote to make me feel better
@croissant4131
@croissant4131 2 месяца назад
3:17 croatia here we have universal healthcare. Still, our vacc!ne hesitancy was higher than the US even. Not to counter any of the core points made here, but i wanted to mention this
@chrisball3778
@chrisball3778 Год назад
A lot of people don't like hearing this, as there are people who believe in and advocate very strongly for them, but talking therapies have a very poor clinical record overall. Even if performed by qualified people who mean well and act professionally, a very large proportion of patients don't benefit from them. If you try one and don't find it helpful, do not ever blame yourself. This is especially true if you are paying out of pocket to access a service you don't feel is working for you or if you feel a therapist is acting in any kind of abusive or exploitative way.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
This is true if your malady is societal and environmental.
@bernan1
@bernan1 Год назад
"but talking therapies have a very poor clinical record overall" Based on what?
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
@@bernan1 And compared to what as well.
@waize-1383
@waize-1383 Год назад
Not getting therapy at all has a poor clinical record for the person. Therapies do help people and work. We honestly just need to take the PROFIT Motive out the healthcare system. Don't talk out your ass.
@chrisball3778
@chrisball3778 Год назад
@@bernan1 Based on their record compared to a placebo. No talking therapy has ever performed strongly against a placebo. Psychodynamic therapy has actually performed significantly WORSE than a placebo in some studies. There's literally no scientific evidence that you can cure a significant mental illness by talking the patient out of it. The very idea is deeply offensive and absurd. You can't talk anybody out of (eg) a psychotic episode- the best you can do is help to calm them down. Some depressed people feel better for talking about their problems with a sympathetic professional counsellor or therapist. Good for them. They should have that opportunity. Some depressed people also feel better if they go to a religious ceremony or do sports. It doesn't make any of that scientific medicine.
@thesnapz54
@thesnapz54 Год назад
@majorityreport and Sam need to please STOP re-titling and reposting these videos. It's deceptive, clickbait BS and Sam's plausible deniability of "we don't clip the show, someone else does it" has grown stale. Stop please, we're supposed to be better than this. At the very least, there needs to be a [reclip] distinction in the title.
@germandrummer13
@germandrummer13 Год назад
As someone who has done online therapy, it’s not a scam
@Jessica-gy6kr
@Jessica-gy6kr Год назад
It's a good stop gap measure but I need in person.
@fighttheevilrobots3417
@fighttheevilrobots3417 Год назад
I think the title is poorly worded. I think the main concept here is that therapy is not going to help if your misery is caused by political and social culture. I know that if I had grown up in a culture that told me my fat body was beautiful and worthy of love, 90% of my mental illness would never have occurred.
@timothypulliam2177
@timothypulliam2177 Год назад
As someone who has tried it, it's kind of scammy
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it's an overall good form of therapy. There are plenty of people who have eaten trash their entire lives and are perfectly healthy, through some weird matrix that makes no sense. That doesn't mean eating healthy is a scam.
@janejohnson6912
@janejohnson6912 Год назад
It's an industry grown by business and corporations monitizing mental health and profit under the lax unminitored policies that helped to increase it. All diagnosis and clients are not a good match for online. The industry must regulate and offer in office and online as an alternative to therapy when they can not make it to the office. Sort of an emergency kinda service rather than the it being the only service. Its a mess.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
Here is the #1 maxim used by all therapists everywhere: The therapist never works harder than the client. This is the focal point of ALL therapy provided everywhere.
@bernan1
@bernan1 Год назад
how does one quantify the comparison?
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
@@bernan1 What do you mean? There is nothing to quantify. It's a rule of thumb used by all therapists everywhere. You never work harder than the client. The client has to do the work. That's how therapy works.
@Ashakat42
@Ashakat42 Год назад
Better Help is a data mining project.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
The entire internet is a data mining project.
@SecondLifeDesigner
@SecondLifeDesigner Год назад
There are two types of mental illness. One is caused by what a person has experienced in life and is cognitive. The other is mental illness caused by actual disease where the brain is damaged in some fashion and no longer functioning correctly such as schizophrenia. I am sure there is also mental illnesses that are a combination or that one leads to changes in the brain to cause impairment thus making it a physical disease such as long term abuse or long term depression.
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
Schizophrenia requires a psychiatrist, and the use of medication.
@ChairmanTrump
@ChairmanTrump Год назад
"The bourgeoisie are today evading taxation by bribery and through their connections; we must close all loopholes"-Lenin-Some things never change.
@diversetribe231
@diversetribe231 Год назад
Is the guest that afraid to say capitalism sucks!
@JohnMoseley
@JohnMoseley Год назад
Very smart person, this interviewee.
@Graeberwave
@Graeberwave Год назад
Would be interesting to see what Thomas Szasz (RIP) would say in response. He always defended everything he argued very well.
@janejohnson6912
@janejohnson6912 Год назад
Thank you for the information.
@croissant4131
@croissant4131 2 месяца назад
i like this video, needs to be talked about a lot
@shelbykuenning2575
@shelbykuenning2575 Год назад
As someone who has facilitated online therapeutic assistance in a group format I can happily report that it is not only successful, but every bit as successful as in-person experiences.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
This is like a McDonald's employee saying Big Macs are not only delicious, but an essential part of a healthy diet.
@10-AMPM-01
@10-AMPM-01 Год назад
"As someone that financially benefits from this marketplace; I can happily report you should help me earn a living..." - Your goofy ass - Shelby Kuenning. How many scripts are you hawking on the back end?
@bernan1
@bernan1 Год назад
@@markzuckergecko621 except that's not what he's saying..especially your last part
@beautydragon7616
@beautydragon7616 Год назад
Group therapy is excellent in general at helping people through so many different ways. The 11 therapeutic factors. This interview discounted all the work counselors do from a social and cultural perspective!
@cfrey1988
@cfrey1988 Год назад
Let me save you 15 minutes of your life. Capitalism bad......muh 😮
@reck8602
@reck8602 Год назад
Better help can't prescribe anything. At least not in California..
@bernan1
@bernan1 Год назад
therapists aren't necessarily medical doctors. This is why psychologists often can't prescribe but a psychiatrist can
@Bojan_V
@Bojan_V Год назад
Online therapy is ok when it is conducted by professional therapists.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
Professional just means someone else signed a paper saying they're a professional.
@Bojan_V
@Bojan_V Год назад
@@markzuckergecko621 No. There is much more then that.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
@@Bojan_V not really. That's really all it is, a college degree is just an expensive recommendation.
@Bojan_V
@Bojan_V Год назад
@@markzuckergecko621 Maybe somewhere in America.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
@@Bojan_V so what do you think a degree is?
@SteveRuprecht
@SteveRuprecht Год назад
Mc Therapy.
@qp4367
@qp4367 Год назад
y
@dirkturtle3354
@dirkturtle3354 Год назад
Was hoping this would be a Sam interview. Tough to get through the semi-pro ones.
@isaacpicon169
@isaacpicon169 Год назад
Best therapy is going to the gym and torturing your body so that your soul finds peace and learns to be humble.
@markzuckergecko621
@markzuckergecko621 Год назад
I can't afford a personal trainer, so I just go to the gym and act like I don't know how to work the machines, and a gym bro comes over to give me a hand. Pro gamer tip.
@tgs1766
@tgs1766 Год назад
Why would you have any reason to not be humble? Like, who the fuck are you?
@Mae_Dastardly
@Mae_Dastardly Год назад
I do both and it's definitely been helping, i've been less prone to flipping my shit on my coworkers and my involuntary jerks have been less of an issue
@Mae_Dastardly
@Mae_Dastardly Год назад
​@@markzuckergecko621 i skim through gymtube vids and watch the gym bros form to emulate but hey that prob works too
@cmo5150
@cmo5150 Год назад
at best it’s a step along the way toward getting real lasting help
@Iamrightyouarewrong
@Iamrightyouarewrong Год назад
yes.
@robertweaver4728
@robertweaver4728 Год назад
Absolutely it is. Nowadays they tell everyone to get therapy just because. They want you all on antidepressants and anti anxiety meds and to always visit your therapist so they (pharmaceuticals and “therapist”) always have a nice income. this whole therapy renaissance has not improved anything at all if you take a step back and look at the big picture.
@churchofthelambofsat
@churchofthelambofsat Год назад
Eh... you sound like a 90s Fox News grandpa. Yes, the core problem is capitalism, and our therapy system is designed to get people back to work rather than primarily to get them help. That does not mean it's all a scam and should be thrown out. It just means you're a neurotypical and your neurotypical privilege has blinded you to the fact that it can still help people.
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 Год назад
Hard disagree
@skyty0
@skyty0 Год назад
Everyone should get therapy, just because. Therapy is not exclusively for people in crisis.
@Michael-jq5pf
@Michael-jq5pf Год назад
Therapists don't prescribe Psychiatrists, general practitioners, anrp, DO, PAs can. But LMHC'd therapists do not write prescriptions unless they are also one of the aforementioned class of providers. For the record, although most people can probably agree meds are relied on too heavily/quickly in America in particular, they are invaluable for many. If you don't understand the neurochemistry involved in illness (clinical depression, for instance, is a very real physical illness [inflammation 100%, altered activity in certain regions of the brain, reduced neuroplasticity, etc] that manifests as mental and cognitive deficits) or the pharmacological processes involved with the drugs used to treat those illnesses, then it's best to avoid speaking on it unless you like having eyes roll at you when you parrot the same old cliche "they want us drugged up" trope. Again... There's definitely truth to over prescribing in America in particular - this nation is the mecca of unconstrained capitalism, and drugs are extremely profitable in that setup. Look at the GLP-1 inhibitor Semaglutide (Ozempic) for a current example of irresponsible mass-scale drug peddling. But illnesses like depression and anxiety are real (undeniably so, and with a neverending stream of new proof) and a *good* medication choice can allow people to turn their shit around. It's a world of grey, nothing is black or white.
@shelbykuenning2575
@shelbykuenning2575 Год назад
Most therapists can't prescribe. Meds have their place and can be very helpful, especially with organically based and inherent psychiatric issues, e.g. brain defect or schizophrenia, but some form of what is referred to often as talk therapy is essential. Your characterization isn't accurate, although there are always those who abuse their positions, in any field.
@86Corvus
@86Corvus 7 месяцев назад
Yes its a scam. Online and offline.
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