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Is Physical Media Forever? | Let's Discuss Disc Rot 

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Nothing Lasts forever. Least of all your Collectables.
But what causes our precious items to break down?
Well in the Case of Blu rays and DVDs it's Disc Rot.
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#physicalmedia #dvd #bluray

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@legiontheatregroup
@legiontheatregroup 8 месяцев назад
Don’t panic. I have a lot of discs, hundreds of music CDs that I’ve had a really long time (like 30 years) as well as many many blu rays and DVD’s. I store them correctly and the ONLY ones that do not still play like new are CD-R’s, not factory made recordings. My gut tells me a properly cared for disc should last longer than celluloid film. I have reels of 16mm film, properly stored in my collection, that are more than half a century old and still project just fine. It’s true that nothing is forever but a physical media collection by and large should last a REALLY long time, with possibly a few individual exceptions that had defects in their manufacture.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for confirming what I had hoped 🙏 Though I haven't put it to the test, I agree with this. And have many films from the 90s that still play fine. Now my only hope is that we still have players and displays that will allow playback in future years 🤞
@CHRISMED2
@CHRISMED2 8 месяцев назад
I've had audio cassettes from 1981 that I was told would disintegrate within 10 yrs, and they are still playing with great audio
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yep. If looked after, these things can last indefinitely 👍
@tranzyd8808
@tranzyd8808 8 месяцев назад
same here I have digitized all my tapes & VHS - Once of the music cassette dated back from 1979 ! still works
@fuzzydunlop_1
@fuzzydunlop_1 8 месяцев назад
They dont handle cold well either tbf. I know ive found a disk in the loft or shed and the comdensation has got between the plastic and started to turn them. Simple finger prints can affect them also if theres anythin left behind that may degrade the plastic over time. 👍 😊
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yep! You're absolutely right. The cold can be just as bad as the heat. And acids from our hands are a nightmare for most collectibles. Thanks for the additional info. I should have mentioned those 👍
@tranzyd8808
@tranzyd8808 8 месяцев назад
I have collected CDs since mid 80s , now have over 3500 CD albums and 800 DVDs - 40yers later CDs are still all perfect... I am not worried
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
It certainly seems to be particular batches that have this issue. None of my collection has any problems thus far and likely (fingers crossed) never will... But for some this has been a huge problem
@ianmc87
@ianmc87 8 месяцев назад
I've never heard of disc rot before until recently. This seems to be a popular topic now. I've never encountered it. I have CDs that are over 30 years old. I have DVD's that I purchased in the early 2000s. No rot.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yeah my collection seems to be fine also. Fingers crossed it stays that way 🤞
@ianmc87
@ianmc87 8 месяцев назад
Same here. I suppose it could happen if I don't care of them or if they get exposed to adverse conditions for some reason. I enjoy collecting physical media and hope to pass it down to my kids. @@HydraCollectables
@JonathanHeydh-vy4yw
@JonathanHeydh-vy4yw 6 месяцев назад
And reason no 3 is planned obsolescence
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 6 месяцев назад
Could very well be...
@weldonyoung1013
@weldonyoung1013 4 месяца назад
Don't know if I'd call the read layer metal rot "erosion", perhaps "rust" as it is usually the aluminum that oxidises or reacts with other elements. Could be just that you are using United Kingdom english. Great concise presentation. But the few time I've encountered what could only be described as "disc rot" there were no signs visible to the naked eye.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 4 месяца назад
Disc rot is just the term they use to describe this process. But you're right. Its a rust that sets in once moisture and oxygen breaks the seal.
@superhonorablenephew3079
@superhonorablenephew3079 8 месяцев назад
Damn, I didn’t know this was a thing (although in the back of my mind, I knew they wouldn’t last forever)…. What a quick, well put together video. While I’m already pretty protective of my 4k’s now, I’ll keep an even closer eye on them.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Hopefully you won't ever experience it 🤞 In all my years of collecting, I haven't experienced it (yet!) Thank you as always for stopping by and taking the time to comment and join the discussion 🙏
@weldonyoung1013
@weldonyoung1013 4 месяца назад
I believe the problem has only become popular recently due to poor manufacturing from some location.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 8 месяцев назад
I've bought 25 year old DVD's second hand that sometimes looked like someone had carried them through a war zone, but they still played and had no signs of rot. I've had home burned CD's that still played after years in the glove compartment of my car, experiencing temperatures from -15 to + 40 (or more) Celcuis with loads of different humidity, and home recorded DVD's I recorded close to 20 years ago that still played last year when I did a clear out of old useless TV shows. Then there is that one set of Star Wars original trilogy discs on DVD I bought for the Theatrical Editions, that came with the "special" editions as well. Never played the special editions, never even took them out of the case, stored them same as all my other discs, then I decided to bring them on a trip 6-7 years after purchase, since I though no big loss if I lost them, and by the time I got to playing them all of them showed signs of rot and were unplayable in parts. Obviously take care of your collection, but unless you store it somewhere where it regularly experiences extreme climates, I think it's mostly up to the manufacturing. Keep your discs out of direct sunlight, keep them in the case when not in play and don't put your fingers on the read area and then it's mostly up to praying that manufacturing was good.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
100% agree. I think for the most part Discs are pretty hardy. However if manufacturing is at fault: Unfortunately we doomed 🤦‍♂️
@mcrobielord1503
@mcrobielord1503 8 месяцев назад
Vinyl records do not discrot
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
No. But still need to be looked after nevertheless 👍
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 7 месяцев назад
My oldest VHS tape is Trooping the Colours 1984 , recorded from the TV in 1985. Still plays the same as it ever did.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 7 месяцев назад
Great to hear! Yeah this doesn't seem to be an exact science and seems to heavily depend on storage conditions 🤔
@ChadAV69
@ChadAV69 8 месяцев назад
Just rip them all to a hard drive so you still have them in 50 years
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Well sure but thats if the hard drive survives its expected lifespan too... I personally use a Nas for my home theatre setup but there are still risks.
@andrewdriscoll1765
@andrewdriscoll1765 2 месяца назад
In 50 years ill most likely be dead. And im only 34. Could care less about 50 years from now.
@angrygnome4304
@angrygnome4304 8 месяцев назад
I've lost several PSone games to rot.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Sorry to hear this. Are they games you can easily replace if you wanted to?
@ZZ21zx
@ZZ21zx 5 месяцев назад
@@HydraCollectablesmany PSone games have been super expensive now (big titles are often more than 100 bucks each)
@tranzyd8808
@tranzyd8808 8 месяцев назад
i would be more concerned with your body rotting if you had all the covid jabs, rather than a CD..
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Not really what we are here to talk about but I am thankful for the comment nonetheless...
@Deadman1957TEB
@Deadman1957TEB 8 месяцев назад
Well that just proves, you're never to old to learn, I didn't know this was a thing! I do look after my collectibles and haven't come upon this yet! Is it the same with Cd's as I've been buying them since they begun? Mind you most of discs are downloaded on the computer now! Another user friendly video Luke, thank you!
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yes this is the same for CDs, CD Roms, DVDs, Blu-Rays etc... Thankfully so far throughout all my years of collecting I too have never encountered this within my collection but it is always a concern and worth keeping an eye out for 👍 Thanks as always for stopping by. I always appreciate you and your kind words!
@bothbarrelsbell
@bothbarrelsbell 8 месяцев назад
I didn't know this was a thing either. 🤯
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
@@bothbarrelsbell Be sure to look out for it. Especially if you are buying 2nd hand 👀
@weldonyoung1013
@weldonyoung1013 4 месяца назад
Agreed. I've only every encountered 3 disc that would stutter or skip, and I'd say 2nd hand discs are more likely to do so.
@adrianvanleeuwen
@adrianvanleeuwen 8 месяцев назад
For home made DVDs I only use Verbaitum which has stable materials and last longer. Regarding store bought movie dvds and blu ray, I don't know what they use. Storing them properly and advoiding scratching is important.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I've heard alot of people mention home burnt dvds not being so great. I guess it does depends which brand you use...
@garym6315
@garym6315 8 месяцев назад
I've only had this happen a few times. Tina Turner: The Collected Recordings 60s to 90s audio CD had all 3 discs rot within a couple of years of purchase. Definitely some poor production there. I've noticed a few of my old PS2 games have started to have that frosted surface like they're in the early stages of disc rot, and it happens to be the games I used to play ALL the time. So I was wondering if it was just the constant use or exposure to whatever more than the others.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
I've heard it happens alot more with CDs and Video Games (as opposed to blu rays etc) But I haven't experienced it myself. Thank you for stopping by and sharing 👍
@damian9303
@damian9303 8 месяцев назад
I only have ever _really_ experienced disc rotting on blank CDs that were left in moist damp humid storage bins. Masterfully pressed ones seem more resilient, the closest I have come across personally are delaminated Dreamcast games that boot back to the main menu. There’s some with the pinholes also, but they’re rather insignificant that the games play regardless
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'm learning that alot of early games had this issue. Thankfully it looks like it was only a problem for a short period of time 🤞
@pacer1705
@pacer1705 8 месяцев назад
Disc label tears is as bad as disc rot. It is horrible to think the torn disc label gets shredded into micro bits when spinning inside disc drive.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
I didn't know this was a thing... I'm going to look into it 👍
@matthaskell1988
@matthaskell1988 8 месяцев назад
I have never encountered disc rot in my 15 years of collecting. I check everything before I buy the item. If it’s rough, just pass on the item. The media should be kept in a dry, room temperature setting. Everything expires at some point. But I wouldn’t fuss over this issue one bit. You will likely be dead before the media is. Ain’t that about a beeeeotch? lol
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
I 100% agree. This stuff will outlive most of us!
@weldonyoung1013
@weldonyoung1013 4 месяца назад
@matthaskell1988 you have been lucky. In my experience disc rot has not presented any visible signs to the naked eye, but I would add the roit I've encountered is likely due to poor manufacturing.
@jabezhane
@jabezhane 8 месяцев назад
I have only bought 1 CD in the past 10 years (Sturgill Simpsons Sound & Fury...3 copies actually) but I was buying 2-3 a week from 1990 to 2010 or so. In my collection I have two that got some rot/oxidisation. That appeared pretty soon after purchase not like 30 years later. I have three others that have pinholeing as a defect of the manufacturing process. Thats it.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
I am unfamiliar with the term Pin Holing. Will look into it 👍 Yeah, I think if it's a manufacturing issue, it tends to happen reasonably quick...
@jabezhane
@jabezhane 8 месяцев назад
@@HydraCollectables Yes its when the aluminium layer is applied with small tiny pinholes in it, usually in a direct line of a data track. You'll get a line of like 10 dots. Hold it up to the light and you see right through the disc. Most annoying back in the day. Error correction aint fixing that one.
@bosskbounty
@bosskbounty 8 месяцев назад
It is just bad luck with a manufacturing error, it's all just about looking after your DVDS, CDs, books or whatever. First CD I ever bought back in 1988 is still going strong. Even some CDs I buy in op shops that don't look all that great, still play. Which is odd, as you can get a perfect looking disc which has a fault.
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Yep. All mine currently still work too. Still always something to watch out for 👍
@samtron5000
@samtron5000 3 месяца назад
I agree with you to an extent but the material may still degrade over time. Just because it hasn’t yet doesn’t mean it won’t in the future. A lot of people collecting retro and vintage physical media do not know how the previous owners stored things. Anyway just because you don’t have disc rot right now doesn’t mean you won’t in the future. People who have been “collecting since the 80s” often take pristine care of their stuff but the way a mom stored her sons Sega cd games from the early 90s could be very bad and while it might seem good condition at first the disc rot may come at some future point. Same goes for circuit boards and ICs.. a lot of these companies especially back in the 80s and 90s were not producing their products with the best technology and methods. There are some manufacture defect caused disc rot for sure but it actually CAN happen to any game. I have seen it myself working in retro video games for the past 20 years. Games I picked up in garage sales that seemed fine at first, then I go back and check it some years later, and it has begun. It’s a slow process over time.
@CryptoDudeUk
@CryptoDudeUk 8 месяцев назад
Very informative Luke
@HydraCollectables
@HydraCollectables 8 месяцев назад
Thanks mate 👍
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