Is Russell Wilson Struggling Because He Abandoned Being Mobile? | Pat McAfee Reacts 

Seeing how Geno Smith has been playing and how Russ has been playing it almost gets you wondering if the QB magic is actually in Seattle when we all thought it was in Russell

Never forget when he wore his own throwback to training camp

“Broncos country, I’m tired “ 😂

My man secured the championship and now secured the bag, he’s done

I think this shows how well Pete can keep things taped together. He finds a way to get people to play nice with each other.

It doesn’t make sense for him to abandon it when it’s primarily how he trains

The big “let’s ride” belt buckle shining in the corner of the desk makes this whole conversation funny to me for some reason 😂😂

As someone in the Seattle market, who listened to my parents watch Hawks games every Sunday, it’s no coincidence that the Seahawks started to go downhill when Marshawn Lynch left. People seem to have forgotten he was part of the team. And yes, Russ would run. My parents, rightly or wrongly Point the change to Russ to when he married Ciara. That’s when team 3 became a problem.

It was always Marshawn Lynch’s offense in Seattle

Russell in Seattle had similar issues but they weren't nearly as bad. From my perspective: While in Seattle his strengths were - • Beautiful deep ball (Best in NFL) • Physical quickness inside / outside pocket • Great improv skills to make something out of nothing • Big in clutch moments • Infectious Positive Attitude While In Seattle his weaknesses: • Throws / Reads over the middle were below average at times • Once his speed declined he became more predictable • Holds on to the ball a tick longer than ideal • Offensive Line Inconsistency • At some point he became more focused on being "the guy" than the team winning no matter what • LOB Defense fell apart in 17'. Defense has been bad since 18' (At least with regards to yards given up) • Haven't found a viable replacement for Lynch since 15' - (Rawls hurt, Carson retired, Penny hurt) Russ in Denver: • Poor decision making at times • Deep ball accuracy is off (Could be the shoulder? Who knows) • Lack of chemistry with skill guys • Mobility is about the same as it was the last few years in SEA • Holds onto ball too long • Positive Attitude Looking at Seattle's offense now, Geno is playing out of his mind and I think its because he has a young talented line and he doesn't hold the ball nearly as long as Russ did. This trade was vital for both parties as well. Pete gets a reset with personel and can restock his team with quality draft capital and Russ gets a chance to flex his skills and show he can have a Mahomes / Brady type influence on a team. It's off to a rough start for Denver. The idea that he was gonna just pop over and make it work better than in Seattle was a gamble for sure. Russ is a talent and can be a top guy in the league but the way the AFC is its gonna be a lot more difficult. Russ wanted this to be perfect optically and I think the slogan stuff is a distraction as well. Denver also is dealing with injuries to key players and that def is a huge factor. Everything will work out the way it should. Russ got what he wanted and now ALL of the pressure and focus is on him and it's ultimately his duty to produce. Let's see how the remainder of the year goes...

I recall a divisional playoff game a few years ago (Jan 2020 I believe) ... SEA @ GB. During the first half, GB was dominating them and Wilson was doing hardly anything as he wasn't using his mobility. Eventually, Wilson started scrambling and he was a totally different player. They almost completed the comeback from down 21-3. If Wilson doesn't use his mobility then he's a fraction of what he was.

Broncos Country, Im Old

Russel Wilson is a really good qb. He thinks too highly of himself though and it hurts his team.

Darius is a great addition to the show

Russ is kinda washed not gonna lie, it’s sad because I loved watching his play :(

Maybe it's like Cam Newton where once past his prime, double-threat QB is no longer that much of a threat.

Russ made a statement awhile back in Seattle saying that he no longer wanted to use his legs as much, but instead wanted to be a pocket passer or something.

Did homie with the mullet really just ask if a shoulder injury would affect a deep ball? Like am I trippin or isn’t that wild obvious…

I can’t believe Russ is playing like this. Y’all stay blessed

It’s almost like Pete Carroll designed the office to keep Russ mobile lol

can't wait for this chant in Denver "WE WANTED AARON RODGERS!"

Wilson reminds me of Donavan McNabb at the end when he played with the Redskins and Vikings

“For SOOOO LONG!!!” - Connor at the end 😂

It's year one week 6. Mans spent his whole career with one team, one facility, one training staff it's a full on adjustment, and also maybe this head coach is clueless (remains to be seen)

Doesn't help that his WRs aren't as good as Lockett or DK

I told one of my workers this yesterday. Russ never really had an o-line in Seattle but he had legs and great moves to escape the pressure - he simply does not have the legs to be able to escape a collapsing pocket and make things happen anymore. I said it from the rip - signing him for THAT much money is one of the worst contracts I've ever seen. Haynesworth-like.

The secret is in the Seahawks Gatorade buckets. Geno playing like the second coming of Warren Moon.

Nathaniel Hackett and Josh McDaniels arguably the 2 worst coaches in the league rn

He needs Tyler locket, that guy is like megatron to him, he’s had him most of his career and he’s pretty much been the most clutch receiver ever with russ, and Russ needs to work on leading his targets more it’s nothing about being mobile

It's because he never had the soft skills to be a pocket passer

I'm convinced Russell wants passing records so bad, he would rather pass as a first option every time, even if a run is the better play.

So a major problem with Russ, is that he is in a true west coast offense for the first time. Russ has never truely had to play with timing, make reads every down, and stay in a pocket. 1. He’s short, and it’s hard to see above his o-line. 2. Timing… 5 step, 7 step. This is the first time he’s truly had to do that. 3. In Seattle for most of his career he has a terrible line. So his first read is only what he had time for, before he had to make magic happen. So now, Russ has a bad habit of only looking at his first read before looking to escape. Russ could be great, but he needs to go back to basics and rebuild himself into a Drew Brees esc qb if he wants to succeed in a west coast system

At his age it shouldn't be surprising that Wilson isn't running so much anymore. An interesting comparison is Aaron Rodgers who has dramatically reduced his running attempts more than Wilson has. QB's in their mid 30's are normally less mobile which explains why so few mobile QB's are still around at that age unless they adapt their style. In Wilson's case the impact on his game is even more noticeable than Rodgers because of his size and the fact that he has never been as prolific in the pocket as Rodgers.

His legs seem completely done. Without his abilities to scramble, you are left with an undersized pocket passer.

Rancho Santa Fe, CA home 🤙

He struggles because his ego is 100x his talent & leadership ability, not his physical mobility. Manning still played well & won well beyond his prime physical condition. He was the sheriff, knew how to run an offense, & did what was best for the team to win above his own ego.

yep would love to see the "offensive guru" we have as a head coach would send guys in motion and let Russ adjust at the line.

The backyard is in San Diego. Likely near Poway.

As a Bolt fan I expect the Donkeys to look GREAT this weekend and come out victorious

Yes... just like every "mobile" quarterback when they get older.

How many seattle fans have been telling everyone this ,he's always relied on his athletic ability and escapability .He can't be a pocket passer when he doesn't throw to the middle and doesn't properly diagnose the defense at the line .yall are late

You know that empty used tube of toothpaste…that’s Wilson

Russ had three tricks... That first move to yank the rusher out of his shoes... The sandlot scramble to wait for a receiver to find a hole... And a beautiful moon shot... That first move is gone... That scramble is slow... And the moon shot is 2 to 10 yards in any direction from its target... He is not even a ONE trick pony now...

I feel like somethings going on that we don’t know about and we’ll see the Russell Wilson we all know again sometime soon. Somebody that good and that accurate doesn’t fall off a cliff that quick!

"Best deep ball in the game" belongs to Geno Smith.

When they said players can’t play forever it’s true cam Newton!

The middle of field completions has always been his weakness. check it out teams just figured him out took the sidelines and deep ball force him to throw to the middle and since he doesn't scramble they got the better of him. . I watched every Russ Seattle game 12here in Olympia WA

Everyone acting like the season is already over and what you see is what you’re gonna get there’s still a lot of football to be played. I hope Russ and the Broncos turn everything around just so everyone can eat their words.

It’s even worse because the Broncos stupidly gave him a ridiculous contract extension before he ever even hit the field for them.

Being a dual threat QB your career length isn't as bad as a running back but its not as long as a traditional QB. A RB is usually kaput around 30, a dual threat QB around 34. The reason that Brady is still affective is he was never a threat to run the ball even when he was a rookie.

Isn’t that the problem with every mobile qb that depend on their mobility. The shelf life of a run first qb is very short. Those that run enough to throw, are the biggest threat, like Tua and Josh Allen. And Tua got caught 1 too many times. Lamar Jackson will be good for another year or 2 unless he gets hurt. He has wide open receivers because of his running threat, especially the tight end. I’ve thought Wilson has been done for a couple years now. He’s turned into a game manager that can hit a deep pass once in a while but needs a stout defense. Pete Carrol might be a jack ass but he knows talent

What ended up happening is that the Broncos have Russell westbrook at quarterback 🤨

This is classic sports radio stuff. They don’t know, but they will make up reasons. It’s the nature of the beast.

Gahhhdd dahmmmit I love having Darius on more !!! 🙌🏼👏

People like myself who have actually watched Russ play throughout his entire career knew this was going to happen. I'll admit, I was about 6 weeks off from my prediction though. I thought videos like this would surface around Thanksgiving (American Thanksgiving that is).

Ya'll need sherm on a show with Butler. These two would be electric to listen to

The news that run on the bottom of the screen says Jim Irsay are 20,000 calories as day. I call BS!!!

The Kurt Warner breakdown explains it pretty well, Russ isn’t see his reads and it’s all fixable question is how long will that take

As a Broncos Fan this Sucks!! That being said, many people said "The Broncos Are A Quarterback Away!!" The statement should have been that "They Are The Right Quarterback Away!!" Broncos have a Good Defense!! But can't be Great Defense if they are Always On The Field!! Just Sayin

love DB!!

Same thing happened to Donovan McNabb. When he was running and passing, he was great: 4 straight NFC Championship games, Super Bowl loss. But when he stopped running, he became ass.

Crazy, almost like Russ is learning a whole new offense and new team. Who could have guessed early struggles. Oh ya, anyone with a brain.

Geno Smith is a very good QB and is a very good starter in the NFL, he just never had weapons! With that being said, Seattle drafted a LT as a top 10 pick in the draft this year. The first premium position chosen in the first round in over 10 years. So Geno has better pass protection, better offensive line, better RBs (Penny starter). Maybe Geno Smith is really that good! Hes 6’3 ran 4.56 at the combine. Has an accurate cannon arm. They are using Geno smith and instead of admitting that Geno Smith is just really good and never had any legit weapons with the jets, the narrative is that even a bad QB like Geno can look good in Seattle! Geno never got to play as full time starter with brandon marshall and eric decker! So we never got to see him in a legit situation! Then the NFL blackballed him from starting after the punch in the face!

nobody is talking about the drops. that pass to jeudy, put your hands out man! he's had a few where it looks like he's doesn't try to get it, and even when he does he drops more than he hangs on to. Boone dropped back to back passes, we gotta talk about all the drops.

That’s the problem with relying on your ability to run alot as a qb.. it’s great for the early part of your career, but when you’re nearing your mid 30’s and the speed slows, your career drops with it. That’s why brady and manning played as long as they did, because they both had the speed of a tortoise, they had to be that good in every other area. When their speed slowed it didn’t matter, they were never able to rely on it from the beginning.

I remember there were games I watched where russ would throw ill advised interception and not make great passes most of the run set up our pass game when russ was in Seattle dating back to marShawn to most recently Chris Carson any time he wants to call his shot it’s usually a 50/50 now it’s more like 40/60

Theres a reason why he fell to the third round, Pete Carrol and John Schneider created the system to facilitate his strengths. Strong running game to open up PA and burners to fly deep.

Been saying this for a few years now. No surprise here. I'm just surprise more ppl aren't blaming the team (which they shouldn't it's stacked)

I’ve been saying this for years, since the NE Super Bowl he stopped running, that’s what made him different and versatile now he’s just an old Bum

PNW fan here that gets Seahawks games every week due to regional programming situation. Russ has been pretty bad for two years. He is severely undersized for the position and needs to escape the pocket to find throwing lanes. Problem is, he has lost a step and has lost a willingness to take hits as well. He has one and only one superior skill at this stage of his career - loading up to throw high trajectory moonshot bombs with pinpoint accuracy. Outside of that, he has fair to good elusiveness and knows how to take ten easy yards if a defense breaks contain. But he is absolutely NOT a top tier QB. He's also more than a bit of a weirdo, but that's another story.

There’s no debate about Russ. In the past, he has stated it clearly that he doesn’t “want” to be a mobile QB anymore. He can be, he just doesn’t want to be. He has stated that he wants to be a pocket QB. He’s choosing to no longer play to his strengths and that eliminates him from being elite. That’s what’s wrong with him. If he wants to be a pocket QB, then he has to control the game and make changes at the line of scrimmage, make proper reads and not make errant throws, like P Manning, Rodgers and Brady. He’s trying to be something that he isn’t and he’s letting everyone down, including himself. Except for those one or two drives per game where he plays like his normal self and Denver scores some points.

The only thing I can think of to give Russell some what of a pass is if he was injured during the preseason games and couldn't play or was too risky he wasn't 100% so he didn't play. If that is not the case then I think there is no other excuse that makes sense and understandable to not at least go through the motions in 1 or 2 preseason games to get used to live game action with a whole new team of players around you, a brand new coaching staff that needs to understand how to best assist you to be the best you can be, and a brand new offensive scheme you are running for the first time. It's just unbelievable that with all these new things which a preseason game would of for sure helped yet nope Wilson is too wealthy and too selfish and egotistical to even care how he plays or how the team performs. There has to be a level of money in which football as a job just seems too hazardous to your health so just take your check for the next 3 or 4 years and stink it up so bad they pay you not to play.

Everyone forgets how bad the Bucs looked in the first half of the season that first year Brady was there.

His house/backyard is in Rancho Santa Fe

As a Seahawks fan Russ has never been able to see well over the middle and early in his career his mobility helped compensate for that, as he has lost the mobility there is a giant part of the field he just doesn’t see in time. It doesn’t matter how good he is outside the numbers/ on deep balls if he can’t hit the lay ups over the middle.

Rus stopped rolling and throwing that lob over the secondary. His coach doesn’t know him

If you look at Russell's stats over the last few years you can see a decline. Denver was stupid for giving him the contract they did. I never believed the hype around Denver during the off-season. They look how I expected them to look.

It’s this simple. The Broncos offense is insanely slow. Plus Noah Fant was a much more important piece than people realize

Good thoughts, guys.

It takes a lot more than just pure talent to succeed behind Center. The on-line needs to be on point and execution needs to be perfect. There's a lot more wrong in Denver than just Wilson. He definitely carries blame but it's not just him.

PMS Fam , Let’s Ride! 😂

I always thought Russ was at his best when he free lanced and went off the script. He now seems to think he is a pocket passer, and that seems to have lead to more pics for him.

Been saying this for 3 seasons now.

Russel didn't bother to learn the playbook. His wheels still work enough, but he has no idea where to throw. He doesn't know his progressions. He doesn't know which defender to key off. He's a mess.

Yes!!! I’ve been saying this way before he left Seattle

Ngl watching Russell fall off in more ways than one recently has been depressing.

Rus ain't a cook, he does delivery!

Washington should start thinking about starting Sam Howell

Russ is content with all he has achieved, SB ring and a big payday not much else to do.

short QBs can make it in the NFL. Add short with average mobility and that's something we haven't seen be successful yet.

Ciara gon leave this man 2 years tops 😭😭 freaking Ned Flanders

Yes

Pat why do u wear the same tang top

one thing everyone needs to realize about the Broncos tho is that their defense is playing well enough that if their offense actually got it together, they could definitely compete in that division. Chargers Defense is no where near as good as people thought they would be. I could see Broncos still getting 2nd place.

How about this Russ, “Let’s not ride ”

He is incapable of playing in the pocket. Scrambling is his only option and he's 10+ years into it.Once he scrambles,and he will out of desperation, he'll get CRACKED !

Russell Wilson is going full Kenny Golladay. Got the bag and now just trying to do the bare minimum to get it.

Why is DB wearing his watch on the right wrist???

Crazy Denver gave him an extension without even playing for the team.

No!! He’s missing throws, not seeing wide open, receivers, and flat out refusing to use his legs