Ignore weakness is something you need in any unit to avoid them being powercrept lol. since like Jingliu they aren't adding any ice weak mobs in M0C anymore.
I don't think that's really true. More characters comes out, less you need to go against element as your roster get more rounded. It's great that Acheron can break physical enemies, but Boothill is better in that regard so I just use Acheron against... you know... lightning weak enemies...
You know what, I think they shouldn't have introduced such mechanics in the first place, having that restriction made more units viable in endgame, now I just use my acheron team and firefly team and just Auto everything in the background while watching anime and eating breakfast😑
No I didn't include break units, because they don't cont as plain damage dealers, they are called speciallist in the prydwen tierlist, and that's what most players and content creators refer to... And also at that point, firefly just becomes the second coming of acheron...
Feixiao having Moze and March 8th as usable sub dps is such a win, it gives her a lot of flexibility in teams and in cases where I use Topaz somewhere else, I don't lose that much dmg. Her ability to have 2 ults back to back is also dope as hell
I will always enjoy acheron more just because of how satisfying it is to mow down a full field of enemies in seconds also I just don’t think feixiao will ever beat acherons technique that just allows you to skip fights in divergent and simulated universe, also acheron is just plain drippier with her cool nihility flower form and monochromatic shores
in regards to the builds specfically, those Acheron stats are purely impossible, at 136 SPD and lightling orb to achieve a crit ratio of 77/218 coupled with 3854 ATK stat. in regards to Lightcone damage increases, its also seems wrong? I'm not sure what criteria is being used here but Feixiao's lightcone is a roughly 15% increase from S5 Cruising while Acheron's Lightcone is roughly a 25% increase from S5 GNSW. in single target situations, the calculations from HunterKee has shown a 3x difference in favor of Feixiao. May I ask the critera for your calculations?
@@zalox12 i can tell you that is not possible outside of eidolons, even using perfect relic substats that you can check using fribbels, those statlines are not possible as a out of battle build.
Mine has 90.8 cr 215.6 cd 126 speed and 3359 attack outside battle. His crit ratio is fine but that 136 speed and 3850 attack make it almost impossible to achieve. Also my Acheron is e0s1 if he is talking about e0s0 lc then its straight up impossible
If Robin will rerun in 2.5 I will prioritize her than Feixiao. Supports will probably be a better choice to get before the dps. Might have to gamble since I'll also pull for Lingsha for my Firefly and future break characters.
i think you missed something. one Feixiao ult doesn't do as much as one Acheron ult. but the thing is that Feixiao is getting her ult a whole lot faster cause she does 3 attks every turn (1.5 out of 6 stacks). she is very fast as well meaning this is going to happen a lot. lets say we put galagher and new march in her team. march's stackes are gonna sky rocket due to Feixiao and she's going to be able to provide 4 attks (2 out of 6 stacks) on a perfect turn. Gallagher with his ult does 3 back to back hits (1.5 stacks) which is already 5 out of 6 stacks and we haven't even considered the 4th character! i dont know how much energy recharge this requires but we all know that a 1 (or even 2) turn(s) ult is crazy.
actually they r both doing exact same job aka "damage dealing raw dps" units even if one is FUA crit dps and other is crit dps based on nihility mechs. There is no identity for them outside that specific task(not for support,debuffing,healing or giving shields). so its totally fair for ppl to compare these two and choose whats best for their acc since not everyone can afford all the units like whales or dolphins. Meta in star rail is much more complicated than genshin bcoz it wants u to invest in a certain team to do even the optimal dmg for example firefly team. so ppl have to measure not only the investment for the dps unit but they have to measure the team associated with said dps unit and its getting very strict lately with 2.0 meta. U fail to pull robin? great now u r screwed forever until her rerun bcoz she is going make sure every fua teams is weak without her so having feixiao is useless without robin just like how firefly is non existent without hmc and ruan mei. Not to mention we dont have only spiral abyss in star rail aka MOC. we have 3 different endgame modes each have their own niche and some of the rotational buffs favor a specific team like FUA, break, debuffs or dot teams,etc so its very important u build multiple teams instead of one to clear every single one of them consistently.
I have a question, should I pull for fexiao even though I don't have FuA units like aventurine, topaz, Robin . I don't have enough to pair fexiao with , can't really build teams with her.
March Hunt can work as a subdps, yeah! You can also use Moze, who will release alongside Feixiao and is also a buffer for her and March (buffs FUA damage and also provides his own damage when attacking an enemy).
Her damage without those premium FuA units is so mid but she can work with moze, march 7(hunt), bronya or gallaghar. Now if you really want her and her design go for it. Don't listen to those meta slaves
Without follow up teammates it will be very hard to proc Fei Xiao's follow ups and that makes up for about half of her total damage... also Without follow up units, she will be a decent dps at best... majority of her damage comes from follow ups and even her ultimate considered follow up... not having robin who gives 44 crit damage, at least 900 extra attack on a decent build and 50 percent damage bonus her damage will be okayish and nowhere near acheron... she is a Dr. Ratio upgrade in a FUA team and Without that set up her value drops by almost half... so if you don't have robin and Aventurine, it will be way better to skip her now and picking her up later when you get robin and Aventurine... also moze can almost do what topaz does so you only need robin and Aventurine is optional but he has incredible synergy with fei xiao or any other follow up character in the game... focus on unit's that you use at their best potential... sub par fei xiao isn't a gold dps or a good character...
@@kurt1429 You calling me a meta slave? The whole point of Fei Xiao is to become a meta character... now you say you aren't a meta slave and then go ahead and pull one of the most meta follow up dps named Fei Xiao... get a life... also I did mention Moze not that I forgot him... and without a follow up team her damage and rotation will be very average and scuffed... you need high game know to pull off good clears with fei xiao in a non follow up team...
Acheron whil excellent doe sneed specific members in her team to use her full potential I do think Feixiao will synergize with more characters, so if you don't have some characters that go well with Acheron, Feixiao is a good pull.
Nah, she's a very expensive unit. Acheron can use Pela, Guin then Gallagh and she already has a functioning lineup unlike FX who needs Robin/RM, Moze e6 or topaz (sure u can use M7th hunt) then Aven to even reach Acheron's height and effeciency..
Ahhhh everyone is still comparing them? I skipped Acheron because she too OP, and will pull Feixiao because I love her design and character. Its simple as that. Even if Feixiao got nerf to the ground, I will still pull for her.
The “only” characters to potentially out power Archeron will be other emanators, lol. And they’ll only be released annually like their equivalents in other Hoyoverse gacha games. And, Generals will undoubtedly supersede other Generals.
I’m talking about the subject at hand, gameplay… until another Emanator is released to prove otherwise, and I assure you by the time the next one comes during the next anniversary, they’ll unquestionably be stronger or on the same playing field.
@@D4C_267You sound absolutely ridiculous, lol. You just watched a man run the analytics, just like an abundance of others… copium is one hell of a drug, lol.
@@D4C_267Lol, I don’t know what you’re watching (content tailored to her). I have all characters E6 S5 and everything you mentioned is fake news… Archeron is an all rounder not a “niche” character like Firefly. Did you lose the 50/50 on her or allegedly skip because you wanted to?
Additionally if both were at E2S1 because there will be some people who will be doing that, Acheron leaves her to dust with only requiring one Nihility character and one support, being Sparkle.
Acheron is very cracked if you invest in her. For example I have a team with e4s1 acheron, e1 ruan mei, e0 bronya ,e0 jiaoqiu , acheron can deal 2 millions dmg against 3 enemies. I succeed to make her deal more than 3 millions against sunday weekly boss
Which is better to pull Boothill or Feixiao? I try to get Boothill in his rerun bcz I saw some run he not using any LC and do a lot of DMG, but Feixiao need to to get other 3 limit character to see her best dmg
I have E0S1 Boothill (with Ruan Mei, Gallagher, Bronya) and he nukes everything in MoC and AS, honestly when it comes to hunt characters its best just to pull for the ones you like best aesthetically. There's not much disparity between them.
@@DarlingArilee I have a boothill e0 so0 and god i LOVE HIM he destroys everyhting but yea i just say get whoever you like more like ofc if you have ruan mei boothill would be better but if you don't fei xiao is better
You also gotta have that amount of game knowledge about speed, action value and break damage calculation to pull that off... Wyatt sky(who's video you're talking about) is a master of zero cycles, give him any character in the game and he can do 0-1 cycle with them.... you won't be able imitate whatever you see on the internet... Rather than that see what you actually need and have available... if you need a break dps and have ruan mei or bronya with good build pull boothill, If you have a premium follow up team setup with Robin and Aventurine go for Fei xiao(Since moze can almost do what Topaz does, he is a great alternative to Topaz)... it's that simple to decide
Boothil is easier to build for his best potential or close to . Fexiao need at least robin and topaz to get to boothill lvl . Also relics for boothill is easier to farm . Because crit /dmg crit + speed is fucking hell to get .
Disclaimer: I know that it's individual and there are no enemies tied to damage so I know it's not reasonable to hit these numbers. I don't think it helps that Acheron has +510.94 more ATK & +17% more CRIT DMG than Feixiao lol. I know it's impossible to get exact numbers but it's something that's noticeable. Once she comes out, people can test the differences with multiple team comps. These calculation are good on paper but the practical use is world's apart. I think these should be used a reference to playstyle rather than actual practicality. Good comparison between 2 giga dps nontheless.
Yeah, I sincerely don't know how anyone can get that atk stat and those crit stats while using a lightning damage orb when you're suppos3d to use atk%.
with hunt march 7th, moze in the same banner as fexiao she seems like a very solid pull for every one, even if u dont have her BiS units like topaz, robin and aventurine, you can still build a very competitive team i want to pull her so bad, i dont think ill get her LC if the upgrade she gets aint that big
People who dont have Acheron wont understand what it feels like to use her. I used to use hunt characters. Kill one target move onto the next. After getting acheron I even question what I was even doing all that time with a hunt carry. Acheron just wipe the whole wave with one ult move onto the next and do the same. Well she no longer do that because of hp increase in moc but she caused it. She absolutely invalidate sustains back in 2.1 because even with a mediocre build she was 0 cycling everything without a sustain and didnt care about enemy line up cause she can hit everyone. Now devs have to be careful not to give a character too much debuff frequency or acheron would be broken. A niche that no one care can literally break the game now.
with JQ release, they've said that a DoT Harmony unit will come out soon that will buff Acheron+JQ comp and put DoT back on the map. Whenever your ally deals dmg to enemies afflicted with DoT they deal additional DMG (something like DoT Crits but it consumes the DoT, and thats where JQ plays a huge role, cos he insta add burn to enemies) this DMG dealt also acts similar to Robin's ULT coordinated attacks.
Wouldn't it just be better to run it in a fua comp then with that support and jq. It wouldn't even buff dot by much but rather characters who can proc it frequently instead. Ratio, galla jq and that support in question. Can't really sees it as a dot buff or a buff exclusive to jq and acheron.
I still think they need to but her stats a little bit for her to be considered “single-target Acheron”. Her dmg is somewhat underwhelming imo and her team is quite expensive. I just wish she had a little buff on her ult multipliers…
it's not underwhelming, its just that Acheron has her own league. Releasing units par with the likes of Acheron, will only ruin every upcoming HYPER CARRY DPS units. It'll be an endless argument X unit, is not dealing dmg X unit = MID/Trash. Lets just accept the fact that Acheron is a gimmick unit released by hoyo, I mean just look at how her overworld technique works.
Unfortunately, right now, the game is super oriented for aoe I believe single target will eventually get their time to shine, we thought that would be AS but that gamemode is very much oriented towards break effect rather than single target dps Right now aoe characters can thrive in all gamemodes, while single target really only excells at MOC and AS Still, MOC still has 2 rounds of enemies, so it favors aoe and some AS bosses will also favor aoe, even bosses that don't, like kafka or argenti, are modified to favor aoe scenarios, like making it impossible to hit the main boss until the small enemies around them are defeated
Disclaimer, whatever my opinion below, i still gonna pull for Fei Xiao because i already have premium single FuA team. Well as a single char, of course Acheron is the best, i mean she's made for it even since her special program and you knew that Raiden Mei variants always special for mihoyo. For Fei Xiao, i dont think she's gonna be the best hunt, but i'm sure that she's gonna be the best dps char for single FuA team.
I have infested so much on my acheron E2S1, Sparkle/robin, Sw. I dont even need to pull on jiao hahaha. Seems I made the right decision which one to invest Also acheron technique>> everyone
Srry but the difference between herta lc s5 and fei lc is unlogical and incorrect ? And how is an acheron e0s1 with that build with her best team doing that single target dmg? I calculated the dmg and even used hsr optimizor and never got that result? Any explanations!
@@zalox12 u have no logic in what you say , if pela/sparkle/aven are not bis rn for acheron topaz/aven wouldn’t be as well , ur talking as if acheron is suffering with her current supports and still has problems to solve with future characters .
Feixiaos team also does dmg. Moze, Aventurine and Robin provide a significant portion to the team dps. Meanwhile for Acheron, both of the nihility / robin, dosnt provide even a fraction of dmg to the teams total output. As it stands rn, Feixiao >= Acheron considering Feixiao is the only unit that can 0c hoolay at 2 cost meanwhile Acheron needs 4+ cost. Also, calc wise, the break dps and Acheron may seem "broken" but in practice none of them 0cs better than Seele who is notoriously known for calcing low on sheets. Goes to show how sheets isnt everything. Also, what was the ult frequency assumption u made for the calc for both units ? Cuz feixiao charges her ults way faster than Acheron so it would be unfair to assume both get 1 ult per cycle. Feixiao overall, is a pretty good dps. Not better than Seele but more or less comparable to Acheron and better than Fireflop.
Thank god tbh. I mean, I wouldn't mind going for Feixiao but her whole energy system is just too close to Acheron's for my personal taste plus when it comes to FuA's, Yunli really surprised me. Probably only going for supports until 3.0 drops since those seem to be gettimg scarce there according to dreams.
Well a showcase of a video of Acheron team, firefly team and Feixiao team vs the new wolf boss two phase 1.2 million hp the fastest clear goes to firefly and Feixiao and Acheron came in last place, she maybe a main dps nihility unit however her recharge stacks is the slow part in other words comparing as total dmg output is useless the best way to compare is clearing in less time as fast as possible like you said Acheron is aoe and Feixiao is single target, not to mention is Acheron fault for why many nihility characters kit are cheap or revamp for example jiaoqiu took the Acheron pressure treatment.
this is just not true, fei has the lowest cost 0 cycle on hoolay v5 wich is 2, and dont make the argument of tailor made, when midfly doesnt even come close to that cost even while using moc buff, wich fei cant get value at 0 cycle
@@yguandotreyado9037 Well comparing to Acheron the optimal team is still Acheron + any random 4* which is crazy imo. To do that much damage without even farming for her teammates shouldn’t be this easy. Though Yes Fei atm is good because she’s the current meta, you can’t deny that but coming patches she’ll have a hard time due to MoC having more mobs again so. Yes atm Fei, but Acheron has still been dominating MoC and PF ever since release.
@@vagueeeee139 ok, ik acheron its better at 3+ targets ofc but i said that fei its really strong, and that she doesn't require a full premium team to do well
Feixiao has a 2 cost sustainless 0c (and a 3 cost sustain 0c) vs hoolay while acheron is at 8+ cost sustainless on hoolay 💀 but yeah, acheron is DEFINITELY better in ST and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself CN TC are crying about the fact that e0 feixiao powercreeps e2 acheron/e2 firefly while EN """TC""" are saying that feixiao is worse than e0 acheron in ST 💀💀💀 you cant make this stuff up, now i get where all the doomposters come from Amazing how you can just straight up lie in a video and all the casuals who have 0 game knowledge will agree with you
Buddy every TC have their own criteria when doing calculations, as for my part all I've said In this video is based on my calculations, you are welcome to believe it or not, and I respect those CN TC for coming up with better results, but I can't just talk about a unit without ample calcs on my part, and after doing so for the last few weeks, this is the conclusion that it ended up in...
@@ShoXpress yeah but solo calcs are irrelevant, people will see this and go around spreading misinfo that feixiao is mid while in practice she has already been proven to stomp acheron, boothill and firefly pretty hard, the fact that she can 0c hoolay at e0s0 with only an e0s0 robin (with no DDD) while all other characters need eidolons and multiple DDDs should tell you enough I respect your opinion though and thank you for answering
I am kind of confused: if I have no Aventurine, Topaz and Robin, does it mean I can safely skip Feixiao? She cannot be played with any other characters?
Okay I’ll accept everything except herta hunt s5 and fei s1 lc comparison Fei lc has 54% def shred in ultimate dude, it’s a lot better than herta s5 I don’t understand how it’s 3% better… it should be more better Def shred 54% is allat better than 1% crit rate increase and X amount of crit rate increased after a enemy or enemies have 50% less hp. Sorry your calculations ain’t making sense to me in this comparison
Yeah i mean if she use 6 stack ultimate well the dmg will be less than Acheron but if you use 12 ultimate/twice ultimate You will see Feixiao do more dmg than Acheron.😅
Just say which one is better directly or not why u guys always try to convolvulate ur opinion? No one gonna eat u out saying acheron is better or fei xiao
Tbh, I really do want to pull for her off pure aesthetics alone. Even when I have firefly and E2 Acheron. But my main issue is something about her feels inherently baity.. As if she's coming to us, right before another big meta shaking character comes out. Especially since her lack of character build up doesn't make it even really make her feel like someone the devs are actually invested in?
Except Dhil and JL were fairly close during their time and each had their respective pros and cons (DHIL higher ceiling but JL more SP friendly). Feixiao is supposed to excel in single target AND EVEN IN THAT she gets outclassed by Acheron. Truly one of the units of all time.
@@kingsimba9513incorrect. no one comes close to feixiao in st. acheron whole premium team still cannot beat feixiao+robin+flex+flex. feixiao is literally the only dps who can 2 cost upcoming 2.5 hoolay moc. acheron needs 9 cost iirc.
glad i wont pull feixiao because im still using acheron and firefly and dont want another dps and i knew fua is not that strong that why i skip every fua characters !
would Ruan Mei be a bit better for feixiao cause robin can't attack during her ult and ruan Mei can still attack meaning feixiao can get more stack for her ult and use her ult more often compare to robin
nah, robin buffs and action advance makes her a better option for fei, the action advance from robin would provide much more stacks than even a 200 speed ruan mei, plus better buffs
@@donew1thita11 cause the additional dmg won’t count for the passive cause that dmg only trigger when someone do dmg so it deal additional dmg but not considered as a separate attack that count toward Fei passive
This is a scam video , runs have shown the true levels of feixiao , even correct accurate calculations by testers have shown it. You are just glazing acheron , while also scamming people . Even by logic , how is acheron performing worse than feixiao in 2.4 and 2.5 moc while she’s doing higher st dmg 💀????? Fr it’s a game , it’s not a big deal to day facts here
Hunt are joke coz.. Even in AS, there is Gepard beside Cocolia and in another form there are 2 ice pillars to break..so all endgame contents have 2 to 3 enemies..so Hunt are just a joke...
No it isn't.... most meta hunt teams are dual dps teams or triple dps teams so each dps can focus different targets... in case of Fei Xiao if enemy dies in her ultimate she can save stacks and immediately launch another ultimate onto the next boss and remember it is not 1.0 anymore, some hunt characters are even better than aoe characters... like boothill clears content way faster and with more danage than Firefly can ever... do some research
@@1-hritayandebnath807 Dual dps is kinda a joke and copium to be fair. Like needing to hard invest on 2 Main DPS just to match the damage of Acheron and Firefly is kinda fcking sad. Yes you might deal like some more damage but the other two can do that without literally any effort at all. And so far from what I see boothill is the only Hunt unit capapble of dishing damage that even a f2p can do 1 cycle to a boss. but against multiple enemies he's kinda sh1t. Unless he's stronger than Boothill, I literally see no point in investing on another hunt unit.
@@zalox12yea,no. The runs have already proven that Feixiao >= Acheron. Fei is the only unit in the game to easily 2 cost 0c hoolay while Acheron needs 4+ cost. Fei is the better unit for MoC and AS as of rn. Arguably PF too since Fei can just run with Jade or even Herta who are the best units in PF by a longshot.
