Is Sigewinne Viable? WELL...no, but really YES (Rant) 

If you spend that much money, even Amber can bring huge numbers. So, unless you are talking to other whales, your example means nothing to everyone else.

This is like watching an influencer promote their pyramidal scheme and declare it as non-financial advice. 1. Even as a whaling option, Sigewinne is by far the worst financial decision anyone could ever make considering that the DMG increase for both Neuvillette and Furina isn't as impressive as the optimiser makes it look to justify her slot in the team in comparison to other characters that can offer either similar buffs (any insta-healer with SoDP) or increase the total team DMG (Raiden+Nahida). 2. If you really want big numbers on Furina you have her weapon, and for the RES Shred Zhongli already does that at C0. Yes it's 20% rather than 35%, but even RES Shred has its own diminishing returns and -15% isn't gonna make that much of a difference considering Neuvillette's DMG increases between 1% and 10%. Plus the lost 15% is compensated by the extra stack Neuvillette gains from his passive since Mono Hydro only keeps him at 2, or 1 when at C0. 3. While the showcase was in the 2nd half, that part is more so an Application Barrier rather than a DMG one. Sigewinne practically applies no Hydro whatsoever while Neuvillette and Furina do enough to get through the shields in no time. Also throwing Sigewinne's burst before her skill literally does nothing other than wasting time and even rendering her signature useless. But since we're talking about a C1R1 Neuvillette and a C2 Furina, you obviously won't notice it because those two alone can carry even the most high on copium teams. And for what they cost, they better be. 4. I do not doubt that if you were to swap Sigewinne for Zhongli in the optimiser you'll see about the same DMG output as you showed. You would lose on the SoDP buff which would be around 10 hits if we're optimistic, but considering you just press her skill and sometimes accidentally steal Neuvillette's droplets so her A4 is also inconsistent so we can pretty much ignore it, there's a chance you might not even get the full value of SoDP in some rotations. And this is coming from a character whose only thing is healing. Using the optimiser as justification is already disingenuous, calling her viable if you waste money is honestly baffling. Try excel next time.

You don't need 3x HP to cap out Days Past. You have a 6s window to heal 15k. 6s is 3 bounces, so you only need to average 5k per heal. A bounce heals 3 characters, so 1.7k per heal per character is all you need. And in a team with Furina, Furina will buff healing received, cranking up the heals even more. Of course, her BoL passive thing caps at her having 50k hp, while her elemental skill bonus damage caps at 65k. So you could want 3x hp for that reason. But you could, for example, swap out her circlet for a crit stat one, to boost her personal damage. That said, that she's viable in hydro teams is already a known thing. But... there's one huge issue here. And that's Furina. Yours here is C2. You went for 3 copies of Siggy. That's a C5 Furina. Then you got Siggy's bow. That's a C6 Furina. And you know what C6 Furina means? Yeah, put whoever you want in that spot you were using for a healer, because Furina is now the healer. This is the second biggest issue Siggy has, after her lackluster hydro app: Furina cons are worth more to Furina than Siggy is.

Sigewinne was so disappointing to me, I wish they leaned further into her skill buffing

If I didn't lose my 50/50 I could've had a c2 furina 😢

pulled c2 Sigi so I can do higher Furina plunge numbers, she might not be good, but as a whale, higher dmg is higher dmg.

is it still better than zhongli with petra (or even xiangling)? the buff is great but you lose 1 stack of his A1 passive even with c1

Are you sure about your calcs? I did exactly the same teams with zhongli petra vs sigewinne c2 + furina c2 kazuha neuvi c1 I'm with Scrificial jade r3 on Neuvi with 3CA+E+Q I get 1865392 with sigewinne C2 (Forgotten Oath of Days Past) and I get 2090197 with petra Zhongli I think you forgot to remove 1 stack of your neuvillette A1 and that's why you are getting better numbers on the optimizer If I keep 3 stacks on his A1 in the optimizer with sigewinne I get 2250681 so it's better than zhongli but it's a false number since you can't get 3 stacks on Neuvillette A1 with triple hydro Sigewinne c2 should be really good on mono hydro with Yelan Furina though

Hello!

yo I like you and all but Neuv is better and you are wrong okay ily goodbye(do my abyss pls thank you I am struggling with my monno geo team ywuyO)

If a character needs cons to be "viable" not just "good" then it's a pretty garbage take. Your team sucks as you not only need sigwinne to be c2 but youll need Neuvilette to be C2 as wel because otherwise you'll lose in incredible amount of damage from not proccing Neuvilette's A2. You can literally take any meta healer, replace sigwinne, and you'll get a comparable benefit. I'm not saying you have to be F2P to be a worth listening to, as vertical investment is a smart thing to do, but you should at least be vertically investing into units that are good at C0 and broken at C2, of which Sigwinne is not I will never understand how people use Kuki on furina teams. Kuki can only heal the active character, and once your furina, kazuha, and Kuki are at 50% your Furina's damage output will grind to a halt and her fanfare stack generation rate will be cut significantly. Since on this type of team you want to be running EM on Kuki, not HP (otherwise you might as well run Charlotte), the few seconds to spend on your teammates isn't healing them enough to even last a few seconds of Furina's E. Overall L takes man

skill issue ahh streamer