@@d3xmeisterThey will never ever compete with a professional camera for sure, but they are very good for taking punchy nice looking snaps and videos for social media or just capturing life's special moments. They have come a long way from the days of the first camera phones. (Mine was a Nokia 6020) Now they truly WERE awful but we loved them in the day and they did their job. Pitifully...😂😂😂
I gave up my iPhone for Sony Xperia and I do not regret it. The iPhone is good, but I hated the overprocessing of the pictures, even RAW photos were processed. I get better and more natural Photos from Xperia. The Menu was not a big deal because I am good familiar with Sony Menu from Sony cameras.
I gave up on an Xperia phones years ago, after having several models the software bugs and stability issues just became too frustrating. Sony must have known this as they popped up a notification telling me to manually reset the phone every week! I moved to Samsung and then to iPhone and got fed up with all the over processing. I now carry a Fuji X-100F in my bag which produces far better images than any of these phones, I mainly just use the phone for video and the occasional snap now.
@@MrSamoDudeYou do realise that Xperia phones now are very different from Xperia phones from "years ago" when you used them? Since then the Xperia division (which used to be a wholly seperate division within Sony) has been fully integrated with audio, Alpha cameras, Bravia TVs etc.....put under new management/leadership. And the entire Xperia line was rebooted. If your experience of Xperia phones was from years ago then your information is woefully out of date and no longer relevant to the conversation.
@@Sabundy Nope, it’s still perfectly relevant. The end result is still the same, once bitten twice shy, I wouldn’t buy a Sony phone again due to my poor past experience, and a dedicated camera with a bigger sensor will still produce remarkable better images than any small phone sensor. Whether the end user would notice that difference is debatable though, especially if they’re only ever viewed on a small phone screen. For everyday snaps the manufacturers color science and processing tend to have more impact, and the reviews and samples make it clear that Sony’s is far from the best even on the latest models.
It would be interesting to compare more RAW images from both phones, and more RAW images parallel-processed in something like Lightroom. This would show the lens and sensor differences rather than the different phones' post-processing.
That would be like comparing a7s3 raw vs a7rV raw, one has more mpx so clear winner but one has better noise control in low light, in summary, depends on what you need it
if I'm gonna go RAW and post-process I'm gonna shoot with a DSLR/MILC, not with a phone. I use phone to grab quick memories - I want to snap as soon as possible to capture a moment (of my daughter or anything else) and to be able to share it and I want the best possible photo right out of the box. I'm not gonna import it to lightroom and the process it and share it with the family...
before i started photography, i never thought that phones look oversharpened and unnatural. Since im a photographer, i think smartphone stuff looks absolutly awfull unrealistic :D Props for the sony beeing more natural!
That's the case with most people. It's why most people think and believe that the iphone camera is "the best" 😂😂😂😂. Good marketing by Apple as well as the average person's lack of knowledge about photography has convinced them of it.
All you have to do is to turn on manual mode and it will turn off most of the processing - the way they tested cameras here is just so invalid, like comparing back camera with front camera video footage. That's just insane from testing point of view
Tony’s words weren’t aligning with the examples they were showing. The Sony faces were more saturated for a lot of the examples. And a blown out sky isn’t more natural, it’s just more natural to what a normal camera would do (but not what your eyes see).
I had such high hopes when I saw you guys were reviewing this phone. I was expecting to see you work the photographer angle a lot harder. I am VERY interested in seeing how well the DNGs from the 1 V respond to torture in Lightroom. How much headroom is there in highlights and shadows, including if you expose for the phone's strengths? How well do the colours respond to curves manipulation? Do any of the colours clip? etc etc etc This device, with all the manual controls it offers, is clearly meant for this kind of enthusiast/pro workflows. All you guys did was just pixel peep!! Also, in what universe were the vlog test skin tones of the Sony better than the iPhone's?
I really like what Sony does with it's high end phones. The range of pro tools they offer can't be beat. And Apple really need to sort out the over-sharpening and colour science.
also, all the shadows are blue in my iphone, i always have to manually edit the photos and dial the warmth to 30-60, and so many peoples just post with that wrong white balance, usually cold, so cold images and yet somehow the faces are orange...., and they don't even realize, it has become a norm
Only the Audio jack and micro sd card slot is all ready a destroyer of the iPhone. If you use the best settings for the lowlight video situation I believe it will be better then the iPhone. iPhone no micro sd card slot a very important thing for creators. Iphone no audio jack a very important thing for creators, iPhone no special button to shoot and focus on objects,Sony all having it. For me I’m waiting for the successor of the xperia pro i mk2 there are rumors sony is planning to use dual one inch sensors.
Barbary, I agreed with you. In addition, the Sony camera Menu (user interface) is also better than those confusing smart phones camera menu. For camera/video users, Sony is a winner here. But if people concerned too much about quality and details of video or pictures... Get themselves an APSC or FF camera. You just can't have everything in one piece. That's why I'm owning a Samsung Note20ultra and a Sony A74 with 35mnGM.
The SD card option makes my old desktop relevant again and it won't need an expensive hardware upgrade i had been planning. Great phone and will be my next, when it is released late July in Australia. Also now plan to buy a decent set of wired headphones thanks to Sony.... earbuds and bluetooth 5.0 just don't cut it for me.
I've been a Samsung user for as long as I can remember. Currently have a Note 20 Ultra. I won't use a phone that doesn't have an SD card slot. As Samsung has decided to be the Apple "B" Team, it looks like I'm moving to Sony.
I like this review as they have a low light test but do not use it as reference. Too many reviews turn the lights off and compare cameras just based on night vision. So many of us will never shoot photos or video under candle light. That said the Iphone has a really good balance for the average user but If ATT had the Sony My pre order would be in already. Gonna have to wait for the inevitable price cuts and snag unlocked version then.
Yeah, that was a huge difference. The iPhone actually looks very good in low light video whereas the Sony looks like a crappy old camera. I prefer the iPhone cameras generally but refuse to switch to the Apple ecosystem. I like every other feature of the Sony Xperia 1 V so I'm going to go with it. Hopefully some updates will make their cameras better.
I got my Xperia 1 V a month ago or so from adorama as well. Best phone I've ever had. Speakers, screen resolution, and the camera and video are awesome to play with. Best phone by far. Threw my S23 ultra in the drawer
Appreciate the video. It’s Mark 1 five not “V”. I know you guys do mostly pics but for video makers Sony is the real deal. It has real optical zoom and true colors unlike an iPhone.
Besides the phone review, I love the way you two present 😃. It's so natural and calm, with no exaggeration, and the filming is amazing as well. You've got a new follower here 😅. Keep it up
To be more accurate it was an Android thing. Now big manufacturers like Samsung are upping their game for software support with their latest offerings. Sony has to follow up with that because the price has to be reflected in everything. We are talking about the most expensive of all the offerings.
Android updates are in most cases useless. I have a phone with android 7 which is working perfectly today, without glitches. The most important updates are those made by OEMs that improves the phone's performance on different capabilities (camera, system, battery etc).
@@alxdava2004 Well Alex some apps dont work anymore with android 7, that's another reason why i switched my Xperia Z5 compact (Android 7) to get a Xperia X compact (android 8). For example i had to withtdraw an order from an amazon locker, the amazon app is supposed to connect to the locker via bluetooth....seems it needs android 8 and above to do that...
Northrup always pushes for this "Android Camera" thing and am definitely on their side, I hope your predictions about Sony's next move by the Xperia "experiment" is true.
It’s not android or IOS, Sony has real optical zoom and real colors. iPhone colors are fake and processed. It’s like eating processed food daily lol. I’ve owned Sony 1 IV and ordered the V now. It’s a video makers future
You are the supreme hypocrites and marketing like reviews ever! How to say about Sony is bad when you have only a probe?! And how to say about Sony when you s*ck Cook's crap?! Shame!
Some very good evolutions that I was waiting for since a decade, Sony seems to finally understand what year we are. They should go further and get rid of the face cam and integrate a small built in backscreen.
iPhone wins 1 or 2 results - iphone fanboys, I told you iPhone is the greatest camera on earth. It doesn't matter if Sony wins 99% of the time. That 1% is more important.
iPhone 14PM user here. There will be no comparison between the two. Sony make there own sensors, lens and camera software. I love my iPhone, but the Sony is going to be much better for photography.
How could sony do that worse in the low light video? It's impossible for me to believe, i assume something must went wrong in the sony, like it have cropped heavily in active stabilization or 4k@120fps mode. Or it had recorded in 48mp mode instead of binned 12mp, or something is wrong within this unit.
Probably used Photo Pro (not great for videos) with wide dynamic range turned on (which shoots at 120 FPS). Video Pro will result in much better footage as it unlocks longer shutter speed, higher ISO and better noise reduction algorithm.
Just got my Xperia 1 V and updated to android 14! Could not be more happier and certainly glad I did not get a Samsung or an Apple. Focus Peaking is really handy and as for S-Cinetone=wow!
Hey, Chelsea! Next time Tony reviews the Xperia 1 VI and slaps the vlogging monitor on its back to make fun of your iPhone's front camera, just put your Apple Watch on the back of your iPhone and boom! You have a video monitor, you can use the main camera AND you don't need a cable.
Xperia 1V and I phone 14 pro literally have the same camera specs on the wide angle 24mm main camera lens which is 48MP. Probably compare the lens modes of each phone to get a close comparison? Ultra wide vs ultra wide, telephoto vs telephoto, and 24mm vs 24mm. i Phone 14 pro max's ultra wide is also 12MP but Sony Xpreia 1V's 24mm is also 48MP similar to the i phone. When it comes to the macro capability, both have the same 20cm minimum focus distance by using the 24mm lens so technically they have the same or similar macro capabilty. The sony camera has better telephoto than the iphone but the iphone has slightly wider focal length with the ultra wide. All in all in my opinion if we compared each lens respectively on their own specific focal lengths, xperia would hands down be better. Thanks for the review.
Tony and Chelsea should create a RU-vid channel for AI Image Creation. With Tony’s technology skills and their photography talents, that is the direction of where content creation is heading. Love you guys!
s-cinetone Tony, you missed it in the vlog section, that was going to be so much more better for the sony :)) i wondered why so orange on sony, well, you used the standard sdr
Fun review/comparison. As a photography enthusiast, my main selection criteria for a smartphone is for it to take the best photos in the market at the time of purchase. I am not convinced the Sony does that, at least not better than the P60 Pro, but I'll wait for DXOMARK to have their say.
DxOMark is a consultation company. They sell advices and test kits. Product that had high score in DxOMark are those that bought the test kit and tune their product specifically to get high score in DxOMark. None of them were tuned for real life application.
You Can also take pictures of the moon with both yes the Sony phone would be able to zoom in farther, but if you bring the exposure down with the iPhone after zooming in all the way, you tap on the moon and then bring the brightness all the way down or at least as close to the bottom as you want, you can get a good moon shot same with the Sony phone except I don’t think you can move the exposure down. Maybe you can but either way both phones are great for moon shots also, has anyone ever noticed that if you Flip the pictures of the moon after taking them and then turn the picture two times or so you get the same craters that are on the Earth globe, and it looks identical like a mirror, and all of the same areas that the Earth has in the green and blue globe part of the earth. You also get on the moon if you do this it’s an exact replica
An iPhone is also not a benchmark for the best smartphone cameras. So it's not a big deal that Sony is significantly better here than the IPhone 14 pro. The currently best camera smartphone is the Huawei P60 pro. That would be much more interesting as a comparison.
The Sony will be my next phone. Coming from LG's V series the Sony would be the most similar. Headphone jack, SD card slot advance camera modes . A tool...not a toy. Great video!
I still don't understand WHY people go like "I'll get a good phone with a good camera on it". The phone is 1400 dollars! Get a 400 dollars phone and you have 1000 to spend on a good camera. Get an entry level DSLR or mirrorless (around 400 U$D new) a good nifty fifty (around 150 new, but they are pretty common, so used ones in great conditions are available by the dozens), a good telephoto zoom if you are into it (I got mine for 100$ used, it'd probably be around 200$ or 250$). Some extension tubes (10$ if you are into macro photography, just to have a taste of it, or you can get a 300$ macro lense). A wide angle 24,28,35mm of your choosing lense for around 150-250$. And you'd still have money to spare! My entire set up was about 1000 U$D I think, but here's the thing, I built it up as I thought I needed the thing, instead of having to spend everything off pocket all at once. IF YOU ARE INTO PHOTOGRAPHY, DON'T GET A PHONE WITH A GOOD CAMERA, GET A PHONE AND A GOOD CAMERA, IT'S CHEAPER AND WILL BE MUCH BETTER! (And for the people who'll 100% gonna tell me, but I can take my phone everywhere I go. Well, you can do that too with your camera, just get a bag! I take my phone in a bag anyway!)
I don't understand how Tony can take the Xperia for 1 day and get drastically different results than every other reviewer out there. There is absolutely no chance the iphone can produce a better night shot than the Sony at double the light hitting the sensor. Its like they didn't want to shame Apple too hard, so they can still get sponsorships I dunno
Sony is the only company still making flagships with headphone jacks and sd cards... truly the only company catering to people who truly use their phones. Everyone else is like "nah you use it the way we tell you to. And please buy pointless accessories."
I remember when Apple ditched the 3.5mm jack and introduced the bluetooth earbuds for £120 extra on top of the ridculous price of the phone - and STILL idiots wouldn't ditch Apple. It's like they cast a magic spell.
Did I notice On the studio At the end of the video When Chelsea turns her head and look towards Tony, the camera focussed on Tony's eyes perfectly and the other way around??
I’m a 14 Pro owner and the camera even though is great, it has few flaws. I was honestly shocked when I got my hands on the 14 Pro with how terrible the camera can be on full auto. Coming from iPhone XS prior to 14 Pro, the post-processing is just over the top making photos taken look very digitally processed with over sharpening being the most obvious one. iPhone used to have that balance between sharpness and detail, natural and authentic look on their photos but with every iteration of new so called “computational photography”, the images since have been hit and miss. However, the computational photography does help a lot when in low-light though. I found myself have to use ProRAW in every single pictures and thankfully Apple ProRAW did a great good job without the need of post-editing. The pictures from ProRAW is much cleaner. Just take a look at Xiaomi 14 Ultra and Vivo X100 Pro. The images are very clean, have that soft look to it mimicking DSLR camera. It blows away the competition, let alone iPhone 15 Pro with rather now outdated Sony IMX 803 image sensor. It recycles the same exact sensor from 14 Pro. The competition already moved on to next generation of Sony 1 inch LYT sensor. When Sony gets the auto mode right with perfect post-processing, I’m pretty sure it’ll be the best camera ever for mass market. Sony already has the advantage of using advanced camera sensor (Exmor-T) that up until today, isn’t offered off the shelf for other manufacturers to use.
I think they may have went wrong somewhere, either with the app or settings. Because in other reviews Sonys low light modes are incredible on the Mark V. Ollie Nilsson and Kohki Yamaguchi's videos really showcase what this device is capable of!
problem with xperia is when I want to fine tune everything and have total control over what I shoot, I take out my mirrorless camera. IMO phone cameras should be for fast and easy access when I just want to take quick picture/video without thinking about and get best results on its own. iPhone has no competition in that. and xperia will never be as good as professional camera so I don't really see a point in having a phone like that.
I swapped from Android to iPhone a few years ago and I know that it takes more than a better camera to get me back to team green. But it's still great to see a good comparison, it also forces apple to stay on their toes and actually improve their stuff. Some notes though: on the lock screen you can just swipe left to get the camera on the iphone. You can also add a shortcut to double (or triple) tap the apple logo, that's what i've done. Also the iphone low light blows me away, not every time, but most of the times. Like how it handled the video here that's amazing.
I personally don't like these super-tall aspect ratio because the user interface is generally poorly designed in landscape mode. It takes up far too much space and the content is limited to a thin strip. Examples: browsing the web, using the quick menu or even the keyboard. I'm not saying that the phone is terrible, but the interface really needs to be improved for these screen formats.
Maybe Sony could release an update allowing the full resolution of the main sensor for it's RAWs. And I want to make two criticism of the Xperia because it appears Sony is finally listening! For years I complained to reviewers of the past models that they should test the "Pro" modes. Finally this time finally everyone is doing that, but I was hurt by the monkey paw. With the V Sony finally started doing a bit of "computational photography", but it only shows on Basic/Auto mode. The Dynamic Range is that in the Pro/Manual modes seems very limited is actually very good, even exposing the lights correctly during the night, but only in Basic/Auto mode. Couldn't Sony keep this processing when using manual controls too? The other things is... personally, I don't think that variable zoom camera is doing much. The range is too limited and the less very blurry with low contrast. I don't think is work the cost, not at this quality. Apart for that, it's perfect! And I think that despite the bad result in night video seems in Tony and Chelsea test, you can get dramatically better results adjusting the shutter speed correctly.
Interesting comparison, but I found many of Tony's comments were super bias. For example on Chelsea's skin, where it looked to me like Apple's was much more natural and was just rendering her skin and makeup when Sony's was oversmoothing tons and was looking super waxxy
Fun fact, the low light image combined thing that all phones use these days was created by a Sony engineer who works at Sony PlayStation on videogames. :)
6:35 that’s not more details on the iPhone, that’s word processing, basically adding details that do not exist (in this case the letters it has detected) using ML algorithms “Deep fusion”, it fails in certain scenarios (finer details) like in the back the wood lines on the house are better and naturally represented by the Sony.
Pretty good comparison. But I think the best thing for Sony would be to add also the photo / video form the camera you are filming the video with, to show how wrong the Apple or Samsung are in oversharpening and other tricks they are doing. Edit: It's showing anyway, and you did a great job of pointing this out.
*_I'm finding the dishonest value comparison funny, being that the 256GB iPhone 14 Pro Max is many times more expensive than the Xperia 1 Mark V that comes with a pair of Premium Headphones being the best there is for free!_*
I’m sorry, but this guy man, I don’t think he’s being fair. A lot of creatives use the iPhones for their video capabilities, because they are extremely competent. iPhone video capture is unrivalled in any smart phone. In fact, I have used my old iPhone 11 promax to film a RU-vid video, and it gained a lot of views. I now use an iPhone 13 Pro Max, and I’ve done videos with that, and nobody has noticed to date. That’s not even the latest iPhone. In many ways, my iPhone 13 Pro Max handles colour better than my Sony ZV1. It’s much more consistent. I love Sony phones; when I was younger, I had alot of them. They got me into phone photography, however the new one, is not really refined enough. You’re claiming that this is a professional tool, and you can use additional screens with it or have it as an additional video camera. But I think that you’re better off, spending your money on a proper Sony video camera, and just having your iPhone, for those moments, when you don’t have a Camera with you, and you just wanna capture some b roll really quickly. Pretty much every tech reviewer, who deals with cameras, knows that the iPhone is the best video capture (On a phone).
a little strange that it has 52 MP but only takes 12 MP stills. I myself have the cheaper xperia 10 V and it takes still images in 48 MP but video in 12 MP on the main camera. or did you choose 12 MP to compare.
This was purely advertisement for Sony! The Iphone was clearly better in several areas both for pictures and video but it was obvious that Tony and Chelsea wanted to promote the Sony. Obviously they are biased because they mainly use Sony gear and that's a crucial factor. Yes, the Sony phone has many positive aspects and strengths but the camera and the basic camera app isn't one of them! It's sad that we do not get objective reviews anymore when when brands like Sony sponsor the creators and their content!
For phones, computational photography is just the way to go. Doesn't matter if the images look over sharpened, at the end of the day, it's still better than the quality you get with these tiny sensors and smartphone lenses naturally.
I hope one of the options is to easily remove the heavy orange cast from the video, at least in the early parts of the comparison. Tony almost looks like one of the Oompa Loompas from the original Willy Wonka. 😄
As an apple user i started to hate the iPhone 14 Pro pictures. I installed iOS17 to look if they changed something about it. Nope they didnt. It is so terrible with the overprocessing. As you mentioned even stuff gets sharpened which should be blurred. So after all those years since the 3GS i dont want it anymore. Vivo X90 Pro Plus with all the natural bokkeh is insanely good. No software blurr needed. Doesnt look good anyway.
Vivo phones have a dedicated chip for image processing and the image quality is great. Unfortunately the Western market drop hate reviews for Vivo stopping them from gaining a foothold. DXOMark's reviews of Vivo phones are totally biased. It's as though they went out of their way to find faults.
It would have been interesting if you guys covered 3rd party android apps like mcpro24fps and MotionCam. I wanna see how much dynamic Range you can squeeze out of the main sensor with either mcpro with 10-bit log (which is limited by the real time processing of the phones ISP) or MotionCams 12-bit raw video.
I just had to upgrade to a Samsung s23. I wish my carrier carried Sony again cause I would have upgraded to this. I've been using my phone to take photos of my modeling hobby lately and I'm just not happy compared to using my canon.
for me its not competing with iphone, but my note 20 ultra. I wish they'd put a stylus in the sony, and I'd buy it right now. You could take quality photos and edit with pressure sensitivity all in the same compact form factor of a phone. Though I must say it made your skin look quite orange in that early footage.
@@JoeGillian0 yes, but i think only 30 seconds max, which is enough for some astro, however, i remember, they do capture like big stars but that's it :( still good, i had one photo with the phone with the tent having the inside lamp on, and the mountain on the back and a few stars in the sky, that was a pretty photo i will never forget, taken with a huawei p9 leica dual :) and i do remember the s7 edge had this option too, up to 15 seconds max i think
@@thelensguy6050 it s also 30s max on Xperia 1 IV (to shoot at very dark night or use a ND filter) but Samsung has now added astrophotography mode (I have not tested since I live in a city)
