Is Suspiria Overrated? Unpopular Opinion: Overhyped Movies That Everyone Says They Love 

You're going to want to hear my thoughts on this no matter which side you are on, or, in the middle, there is a case to be me made... pop that tape in, I got you, let's go do this!

File this under Joe Bob's quote: "people lose their #@$@ minds when they talk about Argento" - because this video is having to have segments trimmed out because of copyright complaint because I used a clip from another video about this movie to show how people over-analyze Suspiria hahahaha...so if it is jumpy, that is why!

I watched it a long time ago and didn’t think about it again since. I have been kind of surprised at all the hype lately over it and personally it’s kind of like hearing your ex that you dumped has suddenly gotten hot, but you look on Instagram and you’re like “nope”

The movie is amazing. Super stylistic. And in 4K HDR ohhh baby. That technicolor is AMAZING! best use of HDR I’ve ever seen.

overhyped? overhyped for whom, within which group? that is the question. the film has always been a niche taste, something discussed by horror fans and film students, not a staple of mainstream taste by any means. it's still that way. over the years it's popularity might have grown, but it's nowhere near as popular as people within certain communities tend to say it is. therefore it's not really overhyped in the sense that it's considered good or important by most people. it's still a cult classic film, it's not the godfather or shawshank redemption.

Frankly, I think calling any movie overrated is just false narrative. Calling a beloved movie overrated just means you personally don't like it. And that's fine. But that doesn't mean it's overrated. It just means you didn't like the film. I think the more honest thing to say is..."I didn't like this movie" or "I don't like this movie as much as others do". I don't think overrated really exists. A ton of people like certain movies for a reason. Anyway, I personally like Suspiria. I don't love it. It's not a favorite for me. I don't find it mind blowing like some do. It is a beautiful looking movie and I do enjoy it but I don't watch it very often. I really have to be in the mood for this one. It's a bit slow for me and I find the ending a little disappointing

Argento is an acquired taste. Its a particularly aweful taste . Susperia is garbage.

Suspiria was a film that needed to win me over with a second viewing, but I consider it to be one of the greatest horror films ever made. This is definitely a unique film, and I can see how it might not be for everyone, and my love for the film was not immediate. That said, I've introduced it to around 20 friends over the years, and all but two said they were glad they watched it with me. I love the atmospheric tension generated throughout the film. The sound effects early in the film intensify as we move closer to the climax, and I love the finale. Yes, the use of color is a major part of what makes this move special, and why so many people find the film interesting. The usage of color is intense throughout, whether it's the sheets in the gymnasium you point out, the flowers on the walls of the school or the lighting of the city at night. Additionally, his use of color is consistent through the peak of his filmography. Susperia is the best example of his use of vibrant color, so it's why the film is most frequently cited, but this is not his only film that uses vibrant color. Your video makes emphasis on the sheets in this film, but this isn't his only film where sheet are a major set piece, see Tenebre and Opera for two good examples. Now, I'll give you two major flaws in the films. Two of the props used in the film look straight off the shelves at Spirit Halloween, namely the bat and dog head puppet. That said, the scene with the dog out in the courtyard is very effective with the flying camera up until the close up of the puppet. And most scenes in the dormitory are very creepy, especially the stuff with the maggots, but I have no idea how they thought that bat was passible. Second, I understand the plot is thin, but then look at how many effective horror movies over the years that have thin plots but develop great tension throughout. I like your channel, and I've been watching a lot of your videos over the past week, but this is the first one I strongly disagree with. I understand how some people think Suspiria is overrated, but I think you're too dismissive of what works with this film.

You spent 5 minutes on whether people should say the definition of 'diagetic' or just use the word 'diagetic'? Ya know, it's not that uncommon of a word, especially among film buffs.

Well done video sir. You have some really great insight, I feel like I've missed out on this Joe Bob character, is he still a thing?

The Haunting - wow. Dull, boring, depressing. It’s a black and white soap opera about a very depressed young lady with a very sad life. Throw in two scares, st most, and that’s The Haunting. Everybody feels like they HAVE to like it because there’s a hype train Super super dull.

Film school? 🤣 I'm not that big an Argento fan but Suspiria is a masterpiece. Argento worked with Goblin developing the score, a few early demo's were played on set similar to the Sergio Leone methodology on The Good The Bad And The Ugly. I'm absolutely shocked by your ignorance but at the end of the day art is subjective.

Suspira is a wonderful film but I can totally understand why people wouldn't like it, it is not for everyone. The story is plain weird and often makes little sense but the overall atmosphere, the colours, the music etc just makes it a pretty special film for me, though is it as good as some of his others, no ... I prefer Deep Red any day as well as Tenebre and others. Everyone is entitled to like or dislike films, it would be a dull world if everyone liked the same thing. Not sure it is overhyped, it is probably known by a very small percentage of film watchers and a lot of dire films are watched (by me included)

I remember not being impressed with Suspiria. It was my second Argento film. My first was The Bird with the Crystal Plumage and I thought that was a lot better than Suspiria.

I’ve avoided so many films over the years because of the hype. When something is overly hyped in a positive way, it actually has the opposite effect on me-I get turned off and it takes a long time for me to revisit it. So, I try my best not to buy into any hype. I’m not sure about Suspiria. I’ve never seen it, and although I’ve tried to dip my toes into Italian horror, it’s hard for me to get into. I guess I’m just not “intellectual” enough to fully appreciate them. I mean, I’ve never even heard the word “diegetic” until today. 😂

I’ve said it before I like the film it’s not the greatest ever I think phenomenon better. I hate Forrest Gump it’s a well made film great actors great cinematography every thing about it says I should like it, the subject matter was targeting my parents so zero nostalgia for me. It relies too much on nostalgia and Jenny is trash the entire film is meant to be an emotional rollercoaster with nothing I can relate to. I hate and don’t get saying it’s one of the best films ever made.

Im a well seasoned horror fan but seeing that knife go thro the open heart made me look away

First, great video, buddy and all valid points about the film. Second, I love Suspiria. For me, it was a gateway to Italian Horror and Giallo films. It's a weird movie for sure, but I enjoyed how weird and kinda bad the story is. I liked the twist of the movie. The visualization definitely enhances the experience, especially watching it on 4k. Obviously, opinions and preferences of films and formats are all subjective, but I like istening to everyone's viewpoints even if it's different than mine.

i first saw suspiria when i was about 11, i thought it was good but the hype around it was it was this crazy violent movie, so after i'd watched it i kinda had a 'that was it?' moment. keept watching as a halloween staple and theeen as a teen me and my pals would do various mind-altering substances and watch suspiria and thats kinda where the love for it set in lol. i'd eventually got a chance to catch it in theaters at an AFI theater, and even in their intro to screening it was a dude saying 'it's hard to say what this movie is, some people think its art, others think its complete trash: make up your mind on it.' but yeah it's a movie i've grown to absolutely love, likewise most of 70s-80s argento. buuut do i keep it as a normal horror movie rec to say a coworker? naaaah, only if they're a complete burnout and like weird shit.

I think you are right. The film is not aging, particularly well. One thing that always bugs me in movies is characters who have bad dialog and for whatever reason, makes outlandish choices (like jumping into the Razor wire) That usually falls under another kind of entertainment for me. Under the... so bad its good label. I'm not saying that this movie goes that far, but it's a bit of a disconnect for me in the type of movie it's trying to be. I think people who love a movie so much try to or think they know what the director was thinking while making a film and go a little delusional and make up things. It's a good movie, but it definitely has some problems. It's visually memorable, but much of that wouldn't fly today. You want a lot of color watch 1966 Adam West Batman. That will blow you right off your color wheel. 😂 love your content, man. To each their own, as you said. No stones are thrown here. It's just my take.

The original Suspiria is in my opinion a very good film, but I don't think that it is a masterpiece. On a 1 to 10, I would personally give it a 7. I love the way that the film looks, the sound track, and the way film makes you feel. The story is easy enough to follow. Dialog isn't the greatest. But for the time period that it was shot and budget, I think that it is a very good film.

I do really enjoy my annual viewing of "Suspiria" but I would have to agree that it's probably overhyped. I've always had a fondness for it, but for the way it looks and sounds--that 4-track mag stereo audio is wild. That said, the narrative is tissue thin, the mismatch between the dialog and age of the performers jarring, and the acting is not very good most of the time. I do like Alida Valli as Ms. Tanner, but Joan Bennett as Madame Blanc is really bad...which will also make some people angry. The Synapse 4K is probably the most beautiful disc, picture-wise, that I own and the style over substance is ok for my yearly viewing but I couldn't watch it frequently.

i love suspiria because it was my second Italian horror film experience. its a decent film but i definitely prefer lucio fulci's movies over dario.

Great video man, finally I’m not alone on this!

I loved this movie in my early 20s but now in my 40s, not as much. I appreciate its legacy in the horror genre and I am a fan of the cinematography and mood but Argento’s script and dialogue is just amateur hour. I also have a big problem with the way Argento edits this film and all of his films in general. The editing can be very choppy along with the sound editing. This results in a very disjointed presentation that can be annoying and disorienting. These elements I overlooked when I was younger because I was more taken away by the scary visuals and craziness happening. Now, with maturity and having watched many other films, these issues stand out like a sore thumb to me. Having said all of this, the film is still a classic of the genre, imho, because it is very unique and one of a kind. There hasn’t been a film quite like it before or since it was made. It’s very distinct in its style. And it has influenced a hell of a lot of people and filmmakers. But the reality is, yeah not as great as most say it is if you truly look at it objectively. And I believe you did a fantastic job here looking at the film in a genuine way. Cheers mate.

I've never liked suspiria. I don't get it I guess and when they remade it, I didn't even watch the remake. Yeah my one friend says man. You hate everything I said no I'm almost 50. I said I've seen a lot of bad shit and I said I'm just selective. I thought the new dune movies were some of the worst movies I've ever seen but people love them and my friends say I'm stupid because I don't like them. I don't care what people think anymore. I like what I like. I don't recommend stuff to any of my friends anymore either LOL.

Haha people are such followers. I knew people all of a sudden would start to trash Suspiria in the comments. though you definitely made great points(which I already knew Italian movies aren’t too well produced). I like Suspiria as fun movie, turn off your brain type, but It also has unique visuals I like. it’s entertaining but it doesn’t hold a candle to films like The Exorcist(1973). I always like American made movies the best, they make more sense to me. I’ve only been watching Italian movies for five years, they always seemed a bit off, with dialogue/plot, scenes that don’t make sense.

It’s only an 8/10 for me. The remake is better Giallo overall is overhyped. It’s a nebulous and uneven subgenre at best. Suspiria is one of the better ones but still not all that

There are aspects of Suspiria that I can certainly appreciate, but it is certainly not Argento's best. Deep Red, Tenebre, and even Phenomena are much better. I feel like even with the best of Argento though you have to be in the right frame of mind and just roll with it.

Thanks for reminding us that super intellectual jargon doesn’t always mean anything and it’s ok if your favorite movie is trash 😁 I love this movie but I HAVE refrained from talking about it, bc hype trains really turn me off for some reason! I guess I don’t want to be redundant or something.

You’re 2 for 2 on movies that I agree are overhyped. I don’t dislike Suspiria, I may even get it on 4K someday just because it looks cool. But I don’t think it’s that great, either. (ETA I posted this comment just before I got to the part where you said you’d probably pick it up on 4K.) I’m looking forward to the day when you talk about a movie that I disagree on.

Chase…All of the Argento fans are in your comments, lol they are funny. Mentioning anything from Argento is like saying Beetlejuice 3 times, they all come out of the woodwork.

There are many silly things about Suspiria, but I also think the demon in The Exorcist is pretty silly. Why does it scream "your mother" insults, like a teenage boy would do, it always makes me laugh. And in A Clockwork Orange, the way the droogs dress is another thing that amuses me, aren't they supposed to be tough guys, they look like they are wearing nappies on the outside,? I'm sure there is a good artistic reason for it, but I just can't take these guys seriously. And don't get me started on the 'Singin in the rain' scene, it just makes me cringe. Unpopular opinions, I guess we all have them 🙂

I like the film

You’re being nice, I don’t understand them. I watched most of Argento, and they ruined me for any other Giallo I think they are terrible, not the filming terrible screenwriting and story. This is also his best movie, the rest get worse and worse.

Nooooo haha I love Suspiria. I will say I don't really think of it as a fancy elevated thing though - definitely like a b-movie with a bit more style to it. Now whether that style was intentional or not, I can't say nor do I really care just that I think the movie is awesome

I think its a classic but respect your views. Did you like Phenomena? Love that one

I'm a big giallo fan. italian horror fan. italian cinema fan, and big Suspiria fan. Suspiria was the film that got me into italian horror, like most people. it's a masterpiece and I 100% disagree with you. It's a perfect movie. I am never bored with Suspiria. Through any of the film. Now I will say....I do love this movie. I use to watch it all the time, but it's become less and less of a favorite giallo movie of mine and I think it's very overrated and that is Deep red. Deep red is a great movie. I love it..but it is far too overrated. It's not at all a "go to" giallo movie for me. I rather watch a ton of other giallo movies and I think Cat 0 nine tails is underrated. By the way...I've loved Suspiria and the giallo genre since the 2000's, which were my teen years. And I love giallo movies like Torso, Autopsy, Knife of ice, Case of the Scorpion's tail, etc. Dario Argento. Never liked any of his 90's movies. Those were terrible. His 2000's movies are also terrible. The last good decent film he made and this includes his recent movie Dark glasses was in my view Sleepless. That was Dario's last good movie. Sleepless in no where near as good as his original stuff, but for a last good movie? It's pretty damn good. I wish I could of said the same about Dark glasses. "These women are in their 20's. They could of walked away from this" Well....technically Suzy had an illness spell put on her and she was in a foreign country. And the term is "German expressionism" which i am a fan of by the way. I love Suspiria because of the plot of the movie; foreign exchange girl goes to academe for dancing; girl's boarding school. Witches, etc. Also, people including you always say "The film has no plot" and "Those Italian movies make no sense." and I call total BS on that. What is the PLOT of the movie of Suspiria? Well, it plays a bit of a giallo movie. it's a mystery first of all and it's about a girl who goes to a girls school where there are witches and the witches are killing people. In fact the professor basically tells you the entire plot of of the movie when he's talking to Suzy. The witches use magic to harm anyone who crosses them and Sara's friend was murdered by the witches and slowly begins to pull Suzy our main character into her investigation........that is the plot of the movie. So I 100% fundamentally disagree with "it has no plot" or what ever or "it makes no sense" ya, it's a surrealist nightmare in a giallo mystery plot. It makes PERFECT SENSE. By the way...this is far more of a plot then say Halloween....what is halloween about? A psychiatrist trying to catch his escaped mental patient on Halloween night and he's going around killing people. That you can understand and that's a plot...but "20 year old ballad student goes to ballad school and gets involved in this mystery involving witches using their powers to kill/harm people" you can't get? Just saying. Like, what do you mean by "no plot"??? Because when I watch Suspiria, i see typical 70's conspiracy/mystery plot about witches. it's no different then Halloween 3, Blue sunshine, Blow out, Video drome, Looker, Coma, etc. Films that I love. I love the "under dog who gets caught up in a mystery/conspiracy" plot. I love those types of movies. That is why I love giallo movies. So ya, to me the plot of the film is very easy and straight forward and obvious. Dario Argento even hands you the entire plot in dialog, and to me, it seems like Suzy would of been perfectly fine if she didn't talk to Sara who basically leads her into the mystery of the blue Iris, and if Suzy had only arrived earlier or later when the friend left and was soon murdered. If those two things didn't happen, then the Suzy would of probably never ever stumbled upon any of this and maybe it's because I am a giallo fan....but am I literally the only person who has noticed Suspiria is a mystery/conspiracy theory movie? Where you have an underdog character that slowly finds them selves going down a rabbit hole. Putting two and two together and keeps going further and further till they finally stare death in the face? And of course Suspiria would have these elements and be that type of film; Dario Argento's past movies were giallo movies. He knew what he was doing. Also...and maybe this plays into it. I watch a modern giallo. A giallo movie made in 2015, 2019, and they FAIL. They always FAIL. Why?! Because they always miss the ENTIRE F**KING POINT OF A GIALLO MOVIE; giallo movies are suppose to be MURDER MYSTERIES. Not "Look at me, I'm so artsy" and that does seem like what a lot of average people get from these movies. They just think giallo movies are about style and that's it. They are pure style over substance. They look at Dario Argento movies, Suspiria and they ONLY LIKE IT because of the style. They totally misunderstand the entire point of a giallo movie and why they were so popular and what type of fans they were appealing to. And because of that, because modern giallo only care about style I am not a fan of modern giallo movies at all and a few of them truly are devoid of any and all plot what so ever. Literally ZERO plot, it's all about "Doesn't this look beautiful?" and that isn't a giallo movie and that isn't Suspiria. So ya, this "it has no plot" is a criticism that has never ever made sense to me and if that is true, if Suspiria has "no plot" then Blow out has no plot. Video drome has no plot. Every giallo and mystery/conspiracy movie has no plot. Halloween 3 has no plot. The reason why I love Halloween 3 so much is BECAUSE it's a conspiracy/mystery movie. Because it's in the same vein as Suspiria and all my favorite giallo movies. I love the colors and overall look of the film. I love the soundtrack. I love the mood Dario creates. I love Suzy. I love the kills. I love the giallo'ese, mystery thriller aspect of the movie. My only issue with this film is the ending because I feel like the head witch could of at least fought back, or been more active before or after being stabbed in the neck. That is my only complaint about the film. And in terms of "Dario doesn't care about logic." and all of that...films are suppose to be escapism. Or as John Carpenter said "much more a surrealist" or as George Romero said "This is the way I want it to be and that's the world. Take from it what you will." it's like a stage play, with all the cut out backgrounds and stuff. it isn't suppose to be super realistic and be in the real world. I have far more of an issue with Lucio Fulci's movies in terms of plot and logic to be honest. And I am a big fan of House by the cemetary. That to me is his best movie, and a lot of people would say "House by the cemetary makes no sense and is incoherent" but I 100% fundamentally disagree. It makes perfect sense, just like The shining makes perfect sense. And in terms of Dario Argento fan as well as a giallo fan and italian horror fan...it does kind of erk me when I think about how big of a name Dario Argento is....because to me, as an Italian horror fan and giallo fan - THERE ARE FAR MORE MOVIES THEN DARIO ARGENTO MOVIES. I as a giallo fan am not obsessed or a massive fan of Dario Argento. He made some really really good movies. Stand out movies, but there are a ton of great awesome giallo movies that came out during the time period. There are other Italian horror movies that are really good, great that weren't directed by Dario Argento and that's how I feel about Suspiria and especially Deep red. "Suspiria isn't even a giallo movie and Deep red is not the entire giallo genre." So to me, when I hear someone talk about Dario Argento and "how amazing he is" and so forth...I am like "Your a Dario Argento fan. Your not a giallo or italian horror fan." I am not a Dario Argento fan because I am an Argento fan...I'm an Argento fan, because I love giallo movies and italian cinema and he made a lot of good movies within that area." and I was into Suspiria long before it became "over hyped", like most things I've enjoyed and ya, I also hate the term "elevated horror".

let's go do this!

also, i really dislike the example of the guy talking about diegetic/non-diegetic sound, who seems to be implying that using academic or technical terms to talk about films is somehow elitist or confusing, and should be avoided. why is it always the social sciences that get ridiculed for using their own specific terms? no one goes to a physicist and says -- "i don't understand what you're researching, so in order for me to do so, please bring down your set of tools to what i am familiar with so that both you and i can do the research." why should film theoreticians, critics, social scientists, philosophers, and others have to simplify their language and avoid well-established terms just because you've never heard of them? logically, the onus is on you as the reader to learn them, not for others to accommodate you.

I am glad I am not alone! I hate... HATE this movie!!! Plot was ridiculous and very contrived. Cinematography is eh. Actors were very wooden! Oh i have it in 4k and was super unimpressed! I have tried multiple Argento movies and only somewhat liked Bird With The Crystal Plumage.

No its not, ok. Its a classic bro people love it. You have to come up with talking points I get it. But youre overthinking the whole thing.

I’m with you regarding Suspiria.

Some awesome KILLS.

Susperia was ok

Suspiria is massively overrated and boring. And the remake even longer and even more boring. Most of Argento films are overrated.

I just discovered this channel a couple days ago and i'm binging here and there. i'd love for him to critique Glenn Danzig's movies. Argento is one of his influences. he uses Argento-isms in Verotika with the colors and camera angles.

I didn't think Suspiria was all that great...🥱