Moana Maniapoto takes a trip to Waitangi to get a real sense of how people feel and why so many decided to be there for Waitangi week. Moana sits down for interviews with Hone Harawira, Margaret Mutu, Maui Solomon and Anahera Morehu.
In a "Te Ao with Moana" video it would be great to learn what a wide range of Māori want from the treaty/principles, as opposed to what a few don't want?
Le système capitaliste divisent pour mieux piller les richesses des peuples du monde entier. Ils se nourris des crises des guerres des morts. Il faut rester uni et se battre contre le mal qui dévore l'humanité toute entier. Ne jamais baissé les bras. La culture MAORI est plus importent pour l'humanité que leurs système égoîte 💚✊🙏 KIA ORA TE AO MAORI✊✊✊✊✊🙏🙏🙏
@@joebloggs2862 nope you are divided by doing so don’t see maori divided at all it is yous that have a problem with te tiriti o waitangi its yous opposing some legal binding documents that makes maori to be on the right side of the law if yous had such documents maori would honour your legal documents easy has that Professor Margaret Mutu she explains what te tiriti is all about but obviously🙄through the arrogance yous are labouring failing or blinded to the truth
it would make sense to ask the common citizen rather than interviewing politicians who have a clear bias maybe go to some small towns and interview locals
She said there is a companion piece next week and eludes to speaking with conservative Pākehā, immigrants etc. still maybe not common citizen as you say but clearly another voice on the matter
I agree, the treaty principles were created by the Lange govt. ACT want the principles defined bc they are currently used to leverage inequality. 🤷♂ sounds reasonable to me.
I don't agree with the principles being slipped in etc but just to be clear, there are not really two parties to the treaty any more imo, just one country and it's citizens who came together because of that weird document.
It is a pity this episode didn't display and discuss the the Maori version of the ToW articles (as translated by Sir Hugh Kawharu on the ToW Tribunal website): The first - The Chiefs of the Confederation and all the Chiefs who have not joined that Confederation give absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land. The second - The Queen of England agrees to protect the chiefs, the subtribes and all the people of New Zealand in the unqualified exercise of their chieftainship over their lands, villages and all their treasures. But on the other hand the Chiefs of the Confederation and all the Chiefs will sell land to the Queen at a price agreed to by the person owning it and by the person buying it (the latter being) appointed by the Queen as her purchase agent. The third - For this agreed arrangement therefore concerning the Government of the Queen, the Queen of England will protect all the ordinary people of New Zealand and will give them the same rights and duties of citizenship as the people of England. It doesn't require a law degree or deep knowledge of anything to understand what these words mean.
Co-governance is in the treaty. Brits replaced rangatiratanga (run by local chiefs) into sovereignty (run by UK royals). The treaty house was set on fire but the treaty document still exists showing the details along with its burnt frayed edges. We've tried the colonial system for a hell of a long time and now is the time to give the actual documented deal a fair go.
its irrelevant, all only words, sovereignty isn't what you people think it is. It doesnt mean you will get your own rules and suddenly be allowed to do what you want 😂
@@djpomare erm ok, you are aware that there were loads of people already living here at the point the treaty was penned in the 1840s colonisation was already well under way, in fact the french were quite interested in another colony themselves, but you would know all this if you read a decent history book...and na, you will fight anyone the establishment tells you to if you get drafted, its as simple as that
@@djpomare 24th generation? really, so your saying that your family line started 24 generations ago? What did your Whānau just drop here out of a UFO 🤣 🤡 You know why there's no pun blooded maori left after only 20 odd generations? There *never was* any pure blooded maori here, the red hair gene, that was already here prior to cook and co arriving proved that. This is why they wanted all the heads back, they knew if they were dna tested it would show european genetic lineage already existed. Europeans were here first. Period.
...in Article 2 they gave the Queen the pre-emptive Right or first Right to purchase lands before all others, or the first Right to refuse, to the sale of any Māori land in Aotearoa, NZ however, Māori have not done that to date, and the Queen has not purchased one inch of soil in NZ. Preamble Sections 2,4,& 5 of Te Ture Whenua Māori Land Act 1993/94
So disappointing. Just another weak shallow presentation of the issues. Does more to confuse, misrepresent than enlighten. The appeals to authority are glaring
Te Tiriti o Waitangi 1840 (TOW) is an amendment to the 1835 Declaration of Independence o Aotearoa (DOI), on the 6th of Feb 1840 prior to the signing of TOW nga Rangatira excising their powers under Article 2 of DOI made amendments to the TOW, in Article 1 they gave the Queen's Government the Right to make Laws in Aotearoa (Privy Council) .......
Indeed, there is one Law for all and that is the Declaration of Independence 1835 & Te Tiriti o Waitangi 1840 and any other Law made by Māori within the meaning of Section 17 of Te Ture Whenua Māori Amendment Act 1994, sub-section (3)
When have we ever truly been a collective "we" in New Zealand? Throughout our history, Māori have been repeatedly marginalised. Our people fought in wars alongside Pākehā, yet did not receive the same respect and privileges upon returning. So, please be mindful of your words. This country has always been divided, and it is the Pākehā who have consistently kept Māori apart.
@@NNM5844 Maori went from savage to civilised in less than a hundred years thanks to settlers. Many thousands of years of wars , hardships and suffering , leading to civilised thought. 100 yrs . Maori should be extremely grateful. Your comments are rubbish , inaccurate and untrue. Maori youth deserted their culture in the 60s and become WE. This I know . I was there.
I'll be wiping my comments, the truth hurts aye, in regard to the 1835 Declaration of Independence & Te Tiriti o Waitangi 1840 o Aotearoa, NZ, it is a deal made and signed by nga Rangatira and the British Crown. The Settlers got the right to govern themselves in 1852, Section 71 says lay off Māori Govern themselves under their own Laws
Māori to quote the words of Lord Normanby Standing Orders of 1839, "Whose title to the soil and to the Sovereignty of New Zealand is indisputable and has been solemnly...
Kia pua atu te reo tuatahi o te whenua nei, te reo Māori; kia kaha te kotahitanga Māori, Kia kaha te kotahitanga o te iwi o Aotearoa hoki. Ka taea e tātou nge mea é rua!
The Google Translation of my last post: " Let the first language of this country, te reo Māori, flourish; May the unity of Māori be strong, May the unity of the people of New Zealand be strong. We can do both!"
Bro, it seems to me language is a funny thing, it has an immense amount of psychological and cultural power, eh.....I was born in Wales, brought up in BC, Canada, till 13, then arrived in NZ in 1965, as an immigrant...permanent so it works out, bro, coz' my body will end up here, along with both my parents, and my long lost departed closest (in age) brother, and my other four siblings, two of them born here. Because my childhood was spent in Canada, I can more or less easily understand the gist of French when I read it;(but not when hearing it, usually spoken too fast for me, except certain key/trigger words, eh) the deep difference in some languages is immense, eh. OK, when I read Te Reo...it does not come easily to me....yet I have been speaking certain useful words of it ever since I got here in 1965...and they are useful because they express meanings simply and EFFICIENTLY that cannot be said practically in any other way...BUT there are lots of other instances where what it is trying to express as a language (beyond it's innate feel) is so much more efficiently (and often, less 'in your face' mana based...??) said in English...but for other situations, I use Te Reo, or French, or Spanish...the evolution of languages , and their commingling and in the long term reciprocal 'fertilizing', or better 'quickening (as in hybrid-vigour) exists at the heart of what it is to be human, too belong, to know where you are....comprehende? Quite frankly, I find that the way Te Reo expresses/describes real world situations/stories over-blown and inefficient verbally ...and in other cases ineffably (indescribably) beautifully poetic and "on the nose"....sorry, but there it is, language is what it is...the essence of what makes us all human....I think maybe it is a mistake to try and force cultural understanding in a population by mandating language usage. Sorry. @@kumamotop
So sad to see so many racists who think they deserve different treatment because of their blood. Sad the media try to blame those rallying against this racism as the racists.
This monetary and Western system is not the way forward for humanity, people are dismantling themselves to try and get rich and just to own a house and a flash car not knowing that their has to be a low class of people to keep the economy running so not everyone can be rich and live a happy life if they spend most of it working for someone. Indigenous people know what direction is good for humanity, all of them around the world have many correlations like our mythology and faculties. This new system has slowly ruined people
Maybe you are right . Then you should give up the western system which has given you a much better life than what you had before. I'm sure your mythology will put food on your table and clothes on your back .
@chriskiwi2601 Yes we are all indigenous to this planet. The people I am mostly referring to are the civilizations before us, the ones who lived by the laws of nature and understood the natural world. Every race of people meaning our ancestors around the entire world had many things in common regardless of color and ethnicity. It is our Mythologies. we all have similar stories of creation and constellations and the timing of seasons when to hunt and plant food according to what stars they observed they knew it was what governed everything on Earth. All the old Civilizations had gods but they were not Gods they were constellations and planets, they may have referred to them as gods because they are above us. There is a bad narrative behind all of this, saying that indigenous people worshipped their God's but it was only to observe their positioning in the solar system a constellation and planetary alignments. To live this way is to live by the laws of the creator or God. If everyone in the world traced their lineage back to this time and researched the origins of their culture you will find a unison between every race of people as well as correlations with our faculties and how we treat each other we all had similar protocols. But there is a bad group of people who have had an agenda to colonize and control every human on this planet and destroying it to the point where we suffer the consequences and argue about minor things. If everyone pulled away from this system and took the time to study what I have said and lived by the laws of nature with the natural world we will grow as a people. I am not a preacher of the bible but according to revelations some of them seem to be coming to fruition and if you study these events they seem to occur during planetary alignments.
.... recognized by the British Government" And, "......the admission of their Rights....is binding on the faith of the British Crown. (Pre-Emption Article 2 TOW) Māori must not be permitted to enter into any Contracts in which they might be the ignorant and unintentional authors of injuries to themselves.
think about it, if you knew you had the upper hand and got extra handouts wouldnt you be upset if you saw the sun setting on that? 🤷♂ Its obvious as to why the outcry...
Good on you David. Same rights, same responsibilities, irrespective of one's race. The notion that you can take stuff from one race group of people and hand it to another and expect things are going to go well is delusional.
Yes exactly, that's what the New Zealand colonial government did to Māori and iwi from the 1840s. Māori had their property and cultural rights recognised in Te Tiriti o Waitangi. The crown (aka as the New Zealand government) then breach their responsibilites under Te Tiriti to confiscate and take property from Māori. So these breaches are recognised as fact. As you have indicated David is delusional.
You are right. It didn't go well at all. The wisdom and harmony with the land, sky water and wildlife was destroyed and we have struggled ever since to manage the destruction caused by pakeha. It has gone so badly that we struggle to repair the damage done- in every area of life here. It is the greatest shame ... the slaughter of forests, the pollution and pests... the disease and cruelty inflicted on the indigenous people... the involvement in war and killing others... the deliberate trampling on a beautiful people, language and culture. I began reading the Tuhoe settlement several years ago. It started with a long list of acknowledgements made by the Crown. I felt so physically sick that I couldn't continue. Luckily, the children of today are learning about the history of these islands. These children have a hope of not turning out like you and Mr Seymour. I see tikanga being incorporated in the cultures of school environments. Finally our people get to experience a very small piece of sharing, looking out for eachother and including everyone equally. I have watched my sister who married an Englishman. Her children are all about competition and winning. Every day of my life, I cannot believe my fortune, being jn place where I have the strongest, most beautiful language and culture at my doorstep. I am at kindergarten level and have a lot to learn, but Mr Seymour is a baby and has no idea...he isn't even aware that as a white supremacist, deliberately trampling on the desires and intentions of ancestors... he is insulting many people and is up against a huge, huge movement of strong resistance. I hope you both learn something so you can stop thinking the ignorant things you think and share...and so you stop embarrassing yourself and offending others. It took very many generations for the crown to acknowledge their theft, trauma, murder and destruction and to work together. There is hope for your family too, as well my descendants.
pakeha built the country, roads, hospitals, schools brought horses and pigs. maybe maori should leave find a new land you only arrived like 100 years before europeans thats nothing in history@@barbsmart7373
@@barbsmart7373weren't the maori fighting each other and slaughtering each before the Europeans came? Why do you cherry pick history. We should be all equal in nz, this is modern democratic country.
prove me wrong they re wrote the treaty in 1970s and thats why they want to look at the principles of the treaty nothing wrong with a oublic debate as a nation@@stephenlennon7369
Iwi are a nocturnal flightless bird species, and your interpretation is simply nonsense just like the interpretation of the treaty. The treaty guarantees the protection of the pre existing rights that are the sole and exclusive property of the descendants of the inhabitants of the land when the treaty was proposed.
well 'hapu' depending on which definition of course like most reo means family or maori person and I hate to break it to you but David Seymour is of Ngapuhi descent so wether you like it or not he actually is 😂
@@zweed69David Seymour is an accidental Maori and only claims this lineage to justify his bigotry. We all know he's an Altas tool and is no doubt been compensated accordingly.
But they've got more tanks and nukes than you, so would it be a fair and equitable partnership?!! Would you discuss any breaches with them and expect a fair outcome? Delusional!!!
The treaty united this country for the first time in it's History, before then it was split. To deny this fact is disrespecting true history. We don't want to introduce an archaic ethnic caste system, we need to be all equally one in the same.
