Is Ted Ligety RaceSteering ? 

I was doing this type of turns in the 80s with my 209cm Spaulding Squadra Corse skis. The book "Pianta Su (up unweight)" was pushing this technique. Very powerful way to turn especially in the days of long boards.

I've ben doing it wrong all his time. Thank you so much for the information. Can't wait to go test this tomorrow on the hill. You are such an expert! Thanks a lot again!

Pardon me for being so bold as to offer a question/observation -- there are some heavy hitters on here and I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone. Harold and I were friends with a remarkable human, one Willy Draper. Were he still with us, I am sure he would ask if pulling the inside ski back, along with shortening the inside leg might not be a more apt description of what is going on. Pushing the outside ski forward does result in keeping the hips/pelvis/waist more square/perpendicular with the skis line of travel, but isn't it going to result in moving your center of mass BACKWARDS with the concomitant results? My understanding, I admit is not on the level of all y'all -- but isn't pulling the inside foot back a recentering/ forward move? Blessings

Interesting...Waist steering looks great as long as the timing is right which Ted clearly demonstrates....allowing the hip or waist to follow thru can be very powerful as long as the athlete remains in balance throughout the turn sequence or else you get rotation. I can see it for GS

Master Foo could lose a pound or two.....especially around his waist.

I will try this tomorrow. I’m all about the turn, really working that sidecut. I’m curious about this. I shake out of the turn if my uphill ski grabs hard.. I focus on riding the downhill skill but both tracks show a similar depth. If I catch a glance of my skis while turning I would say my downhill ski is definitely farther forward than the uphill. When I’m really turning on my favorite pitch I sit and twist, levering my waist I would say. You should come ski Keystone! Best groomers in Summit County!

I find it interesting thanks....it's a bit of a confirmation on what i've been experimenting but not really knowing if i was doing the right thing or not. thinking back about it it did feel better on my turns. Now i will try and be more aware of that movement and see what the effect will be. Aswell in some of ted's films you can clearly see he can allow himself to drop his hip in to get to the amount of angle he's capable of getting. Maybe waiststeering plays a role in this part. I do know dropping in your hips without waiststeering ends up badly most of the time.

What's the % weight distribution between uphill/downhill skis at various points in the turn? can you overpower the centrifugal forces at will in a turn at high speeds? I'd say there's a reason your outside leg needs to extend(not just the wider outside arc) to be able to maintain edge pressure. Can the average skier or a world cup skier really get tremendous edge pressure on uphill ski when pretty much fully compressed to the ground? It's a terribly weak position to maintain much pressure at all no matter what level.

Hello, does "waist steering" work for jump turns on steep slopes ?

I'm still a bit skeptical will this work on smaller hills? It seems all your testing has been on mountains. If this stuff is really legit would it make me a better skier?

no.

I'm not buying it. Unless you can explain to me how you've done anything more than move classic counter rotation from the torso to the pelvis, it's equally inefficient. Ligety et. al. keep a still disciplined upper body and pelvis, and their femurs rotate internally and externally at the acetabulum. From the neutral transition zone the athlete tips the skis on edge using a combination of partial knee flexion and femoral rotation. As the skis bend and redirect into the fall line the pelvis and torso retain their original orientation toward the apex of the turn creating a strong outward facing wall. That is, corresponding body parts of the inside and outside halves of the body are all equally displaced from one another relative to the direction of travel of the skis. Ligety increases pressure on the outside ski through the fall line by extending at the knee while the inside leg flexes at the knee and coils under the hip. While the skis may be railing turns, internal torque is generated through the femurs. Leave the "waist" out of it.

Here is a fresh WaistSteering demonstration video from two days ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E97hKt-I5rM.html

Tommy, you are at least 4 decades behind the curve. You definitely did not invent these pedagogy. There have numerous excellent ski teachers and coaches using this body motion during the turn since Stenmark's time. Many teachers in Europe and Canada have discussed this particular requirement of the hip rotation through the turn to generate the most power, stay in an anticipated stance for the flow into the direction of travel and to drive the skis with power down the mountain. Calling yourself the inventor is really very childish and flat out incorrect.....shut up & ski

Very interesting moments by you but it is not "your turn" or Ted's turn. I have been teaching advancing the down hill ski for over 30years to instructors & to the general public. Drive the outside ski around the corner & back it up with your arm driving forward as low as you can. I developed it after a French trainer (Alexie Suddan) helped my GS turns in 1979. So you cant lay claim to this. It has been taught for 50 years that I know of.

Does this technique still apply to 30m gs skis? Also Ligety isn't winning anymore, is that because you stopped coaching him? Good luck laying some spicy arcs down soelden on the inside ski by the way.

Based on your website and what I see here I am not sure what is cause and effect. Yes you use your waist and the weight on your skis to steer. However one point on your website is off. You state that the inside ski must skid to make the same corner. That is not true at all, because you have different weight on each ski. The outside ski could have less weight on it and therefor people are really flexing the uphill ski more. Watch more of Ted's skiing videos. There are lots of difference between his uphill and downhill ski beyond what you think he might be doing with his waist.

I continue to receive messages that say, 'Advancing the outside ski is nothing new. You didn't invent anything.' So for you Jurassic skeptics out there who think that, which ski do you have your weight on when you advance the outside ski? If you say your weight is on the outside ski you are living in dreamland. Post video!! I want to see it!! Stand up right now, put your weight on your right foot and now advance your right foot any way you can. It's impossible. The other thing you crusty old curmudgeons are ignoring is that I am a certified kung fu master will a myriad of body skills that you cannot duplicate. Steering from the waist takes incredible flexibility and body skill. You don't have it.

there were skiers like benjamin raich who became famouse because he was one of the first skiers who accelerated over his uphill ski. isnt that exactly what you invented

There is absolutely no way you can push your new inside ski forward without retracting the old inside ski first. A matter of physiology.

Berwang's Ski School in Tirol, Austria says (2015), "Waist Steering is the hip and happening thing on the slopes today!" www.hotelsinger.at/fileadmin/daten/dokumente/PDF-Downloads/2014/Singer-Sporthotel-SPA_News-2014-2015_E.pdf

WaistSteering slow motion: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lf-7RH89ysg.html