Is the Elden Ring DLC "Too Hard" | Xaryu Reacts 

i took only 5 attempts to beat Messmer. but I'm yet to beat sister Friede ~ i gave up after 200 tries on her.. XD maybe back then i didn't have this much exposure to this genre.. I'll probably go back DS3 and beat Sister Friede soon after this DLC

@@SpadeApeiron I believe in you! She's one of my favorite fights now. I have now beat 6 DLC remembrance bosses but the deaths are still just barely peaking 50. I'm in the black keep now, pretty sure this is where stuff starts getting hard but we'll see.

@@zacbranch2083 A great tip would be to have minimum 11-12 scadu blessings, & wear all high heat resist for messmer. even then he does damage but very less compared to only physical dmg resist but I improved my run by just watching " Let me Solo him " run you'll easily know how to dodge his snake phase.. it really helped me a lot because people struggle with snake phase a lot & i got hit only once. Let me solo him guy does it so well.

I'm not trying to insult you, but, same as the creator of this video, you used the number of your deaths as to determine if is something hard. It makes zero sense. How good of a player you are? What build are you using? How many times you've played older FS games? What is your learning curve like? Are you patient, observant player? There is no such thing as "too hard", or "too easy" in Souls games for that matter. There is only subjective and circumstantial feeling. I've been playing From games since DeS release, every time as quick as they've released. The biggest wall I had was Midir. I was stuck on him for 3 days straight. Is he hard? NO. Not even in the slightest. After I've learner how to beat him, I did it a LOT of times hitless. It was not apparent to me how are you supposed to fight him the first time I did it. The only thing I would argue can be "too hard" is classic games, Ninja Gaidens, Ghost and Goblins and whatnot. The games that demand pixel perfect precision for some portions of them. And even then, I would use that term in regards to medium skilled player. If titty streamers can beat ER, if DSP can, it is not even close to too hard.

BUT if the general audience agrees to the same thing that is far different from what you are talking about. Sure, I get it some people might struggle with Mario 64 and say it's hard. But if a community of players are saying the same thing like for example Disney is ruining Star Wars and Marvel, Disney is a shitty company. Al though some people like LOVE the new Star Wars Trilogy, In fact Elden Ring Base game was nerfed because the community said it was too hard.

​@@Kanoog There are so many overpowered builds in Elden Ring. The only thing stopping you from beating bosses, is you.

@@Kanoog if you try to make a game for everyone, you end up making a game for no one. If the general audience isn’t enjoying overcoming hard challenges then this game might not be the game for them. Dark Souls games are well known for their difficulty and Elden Ring falls into the same category.

correct if people were smashing through the dlc you best believe the people who complain about the dlc's difficulty will then complain about it being to easy.

Yep, people are just lazy. They go in, fail and dont even wonder why they fail. But I guess you can summarize gaming in general nowadays with that.

​@@bellor123 yep this is so true, people always find a way to complain thats just the nature of them.

Seriously. Just adapt. I beat the last boss by respeccing, using a shield and weapon because what I was running before wasn't cutting it. Beat him 3 attempts after and I still get to say "That boss was tough" because I got my ass handed to me 15 times before that and got him to phase 2 only 3 times within those 15 attempts. I don't understand abiding by this arbitrary difficultly standard that people do. From gave you tools, use them for victory.

I have all the fragment and it's still hard...they took the legitimacy of my build away cuz it scales with me and I have to find items. This dude saying it's fair if he dies under 100p times..how far will defend FailSoft go😊

Nah I like the grind. I got 40 vigor and haven't used a single upgrade or leveled up since I started. It's about the same as Haligtree and Farum, bosses just hit harder, which makes me feel like I can improve.

​@@geordiejones5618 I bet you get vigor checked a lot..

Or simply Learn New weapons in the DLC itself. Many weapons like MILADY breaks Malenia asshole wide open. ! Backhand Sword fucked messmer so hard that he used his snakes for Other purposes lol ( Easiest Boss is Messmer like it only took 4-6 tries on my Backhand sword ) Actually Easiest is the Hippo. All you need to know which Sword Ashes of War is better on what bosses. and get smithing stones. I had plenty wasted stored on my main character which i hoarded for so long lol.. TBH the boss i missed after killing was Rellana

It was tough but fair and was fun to learn. Such a good final boss imo

The only bad thing about that boss is the insane amount of visual clutter

You can also find Summons characters + your own summon to help... this game has built in difficultly slider.

I would say the final boss was as hard as it gets while still being fair, minus one attack with bugged hit boxes. Just beat him on NG+7 and it was a thrill

I'm yet to reach the final boss but right now i'm full Scadu tree fragments & it saddens me to see Messmer The poster boy die to my BACKHAND Sword build in 4 attempts.. Only Putrescent Knight killed me 48 times and that's when i decided to pick different weapons for different type of Bosses. So yeah Didn't even need a Shield for Messmer like most people did and usually people write message "First off, Shield.." "why is it always.. guard-counter" lol! He's weakest to blood loss. Backhand sword + Bleed he DED.

They probably saw that people were cheesing all the bosses with azure comet so they wanted to prevent that. You can always use a summon to be your tank.

I disagree that without difficulty there's no point to these games. That may be true for you, but story, setting, exploration, power fantasy, there are plenty of other things that others may find equally satisfying. I think you're underestimating the wider merits of this game.

Some people like challenges and hard game are fun. That is the target audience. End of story.

Once you get 8-10 Scadu for sure. Enemy mobs are like a joke for me now with 13 haha

I think people are used to being over leveled and practicing constantly against the same handful of bosses for the last 2 years, where they know every exploit and the ins/outs of every weapon, so they forgot what it was like to actually have a new challenge. The DLC feels exactly like when I started playing Elden ring for the first time, not knowing anything.

Hehe I feel you honestly

Yeah morally grandstanding is when he calls out people for their horrible behavior. You’re right!

@@GlobalHaraKiri LOL truth

@@GlobalHaraKiriI mean it's him just giving us some grass is green take and going into psuedo analysis sometimes. His commentary is pretty funny and the stuff he covers is interesting to me but what they say is just true, he grandstands

​​@@christiansargent6053 you and the person who post clearly don't know what that word means. Politicians grandstand. That's literally their job to act ostentatious so people will vote for them, as if they give a shit. Moist's tone is way too tame for grandstanding. You could call it reaction farming, sure, but there's a distinction between the two. One demands an almost cartoonish posture, the other requires a microphone and a topic that people are willing to listen to.

Totally possible to not die much if either you're just good at the game or you use scadutree fragments a lot, summons, etc.

And if anyone asks. Its basically a fitting armor that looks like Paladin, Great Star with Prayerful Strike and thats basically it. You Poise thorugh almost everything and with the Weapon art heal more than you even recieve as damage. Get defensive talismans, use crab meat and golden vow. 80% less dmg taken, deal a ton. Took me 24 hours for the whole DLC and I killed EVERY Boss there is. I used Rune Arcs after every death so I died a total of 50 times in the DLC.

@Stefano-ev5mt Jup... it's bonkers

Have you never played these games? Why do you think strength users are so prevalent? It's gotta be like half of all builds are strength based. I play as a dex/int hybrid with 40 vigor and haven't used a scadutree upgrade once and I'm halfway through. If Messmer/Bayle/Radahn are too hard I'll use the upgrades.

Ironically Joseph Anderson said the opposite on his base game review 2 years ago. There will always be pros and cons to each build, and there's nothing wrong with adapting strategies based on the enemy and its weaknesses.

@@geordiejones5618 elden ring is my first game and I've beat the base game 7 times on different builds. All I hear is strength build is the hardest and if you use anything else you're playing on easy mode yet strength is the only build I played that I turn my brain off with.

@@zacbranch2083 see my 2nd comment

Haven't had any issues with Greatswords or Great Katanas, using charged R2, running R1/R2 and some occasional R1. It's all about recognizing your punish windows and what attack is more useful for any given combo.

Easy to confuse the names

What a noob

I jumped into my first dlc playthrough with a ng+7 charakter. Had about 500~ deaths until i reached radahn. Radhan took me another 500~ deaths. It was extremly difficult cuz every boss had resistances multiplied by a lot! Stagger on a boss did almost never happen. And now i have to listen to this people struggle even with +0 lmao

No he had 217 deaths BEFORE the final boss. Then an extra 179 from the boss. So 406 deaths total.

​​​@@Greenfreak91 I'm playing on NG+7 too. No frags, Dex build, 44 vitality, no/very light armor. Getting one shot by trash mobs. That's hard. If you put all the BS on your build it's cake. I watched a dude cheese Bayle with a poison cloud earlier. There is too much BS in this game. Way too much BS.

I used the quest NPC summon and it was still pretty hard, I’m pretty sure when you use summons they scale the bosses differently to make it harder. (Not complaining it was a great challenge)

That’s insane, when I got to the last boss my scadu level was 17, you are built different

Obviously skill is an issue, but not everyone is an expert at the game, it shouldn't be tuned for experts. It didnt take an expert to complete the base version of the game, it shouldnt take an expert to complete the DLC.

@@BrodyCanuck And it doesn't. As mentioned in the video and in the OP, the game has handicap systems that help get through it.

@@beiggo21that’s the way it’s meant to be played. The handicaps are the self imposed challenges that for some reason since Elden Ring it became more prevalent. Nobody cared how you cleared bosses. Git good meme came from PvP

@@BrodyCanuck It doesnt take an expert to complete the dlc thats what the Blessings are for. You dont have to beat it like i did without the blessings if you arent as good as me at the game. You should however have to get decent at the game to beat it. No matter what game it is

He is talking about 2 years ago when elden ring launched it got game of the year

For your sake, I hope they make brain transplants medically possible

Black knife tiche > mimic

@@donovan4222 maybe when tiche can power stance bloodfiend arms.😂

I spent a few hours at most on the harder bosses in the base game other than the final boss. Meanwhile in the DLC I spent probably 8 or 9 hours on Rellana which was longer than any boss in the base game.

Ds1 bosses are a joke even Ornstein and Smough, they are massively outdated. Even ds3 bosses like Midir and Nameless King are massively powercrept by Malenia. Malenis is powercrept by Rellana, Messmer and Radahn is in a league of his own.... and its great, wouldnt have it any other way infact if i had things my way id want Fromsoft to drop another dlc and make i5 even harder

@landrybt it's all relative. You'll never be SL170+ with 15 skadis in NG Vs O&S, and they'll likely wreck your shit if you're not prepared. SoE is absolutely massive and there's 0 reason to be complaining any of these bosses are too hard when you have so many options to go away and come back stronger

@@BrodyCanuck you're probably doing what Xar did i.e. no summon, learning the fight as Dex or arcane or something. In which case, that's awesome, good for you. You probably wouldn't have it any other way? Now, if you wanted to, you could have done what asmongold did, to a lesser extreme, fired some heavy armour on, traded with the boss with a summon up and there's no way you're spending 9h on that boss. Most of the really hard non-optional bosses have NPC summons as part of the story which completely trivialise them just having something there to split the agro.

@@FlashGamerShorts I do use summons and Renalla would just annihilate my mimic in about 10 seconds which rendered it useless

Nothing in the definition of a DLC suggests that it can't or shouldn't be harder than the base game.

@@beiggo21 and Im saying it shouldnt be :)

@landrybt Nothing wrong with a souls like game being difficult, Elden rings base game was a good difficulty. The DLC is TOO difficult though, you said it yourself its much harder... and I am not happy about it, as well as nearly half the player base feels the same way, clearly according to the reviews. The issue when the game becomes too difficult is it is no longer fun, even if I am still killing bosses, it isnt fun even when I am since I have to use a build that isnt fun, or I have to cheese something, or just struggle through non-stop irritating mechanics. The main issue is the non-stop aggressive attacks from the bosses that doesn't give me any opportunity to set anything up...and if I am unable to set anything up it then leads to boring combat.

@landrybt that’s not true at all, the base game didnt get nearly as much negativity as the DLC yet it was easier than the DLC

Your new to Fromsoft games arent you? The dlc is designed to be end game after the mainline bosses. This has been that way for every single souls game including bloodborne. Otherwise players come im and stomp the new bosses. Elden Ring brought in the casuals so just enjoy it for what it is dont try to tell Fromsoft how to make their game. If its too hard go play Spyro....