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Is the ESV the KJV OF OUR DAY? - Four parallels between these two Bible translations 

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The King James Bible has been the longest and most widely used Bible translation to date in the English language. Is there a translation that will ever match its impact and usage? This video presents four areas where the English Standard Version has similarities to the King James Version that may help it to rise above other translations over time.
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@todddale7041
@todddale7041 2 года назад
As a member of a reformed Baptist church which solely utilizes the ESV, I am a bit of a rebel as I believe, from a Trinitarian perspective, the NKJV is much more accurate.
@seanchaney3086
@seanchaney3086 Год назад
There is better Soteriology...
@swiftbear
@swiftbear 2 года назад
I would think the NKJV would be the KJV of our day, but I'm just a peasant.
@guymontag349
@guymontag349 2 года назад
Move over and make room for another peasant!
@PrentissYeates
@PrentissYeates 2 года назад
The NKJV is a translation that offers all the bells and whistles, even a peasant can memorize with ease.
@duranbailiff5337
@duranbailiff5337 2 года назад
P.Y.- The NJKV is truly a beautiful translation and has been a blessing to millions! Enjoy. 🤗
@MichaelTheophilus906
@MichaelTheophilus906 Год назад
NKJV was the KJV a generation ago. The NASB has been the best transation for the past 50 years. The LSB will take it's place.
@Servant_of_Yeshua_
@Servant_of_Yeshua_ 2 года назад
Esv was the Bible i used after dealing with the kjv. It has greatly helped me. Thank for your perspective on it. Blessings always in Jesus mighty name 🙏
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@jamestrotter3162
@jamestrotter3162 2 года назад
It's ironic that you say this Tim, because as I'm sitting here at my desk, the two main Bibles that I use are right here next to me; the KJV and the ESV.
@AFrischPerspective
@AFrischPerspective 2 года назад
Ha! There you go!
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 Год назад
You should get a Douay-Rheims one
@swamprat22
@swamprat22 6 месяцев назад
it changes entire verses to fit catholic doctrine, plus its a translate of the vulgate which is a very good translation of a horribly corrupted text @@christsavesreadromans1096
@evanarmont
@evanarmont 5 месяцев назад
how is that ironic?
@mikehoward455
@mikehoward455 2 года назад
Great analysis Tim. I recently made the switch to the ESV as my primary reading translation so this video was timely.
@artistocracy
@artistocracy 2 года назад
Ah, you've gone back to the ESV, Mike. Have you done your stint with the KJV? Which ESV's do you have?
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Terrible downgrade. Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@mikehoward455
@mikehoward455 10 месяцев назад
@@dantombs5697 Are you KJVO?
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@mikehoward455 I see the trick here you get me to answer your question before you answer my question. Christianity is offensive religion, we all believe in one God and there’s so many gods out there. All the rest are wrong? Of course they are. There’s so many religions out there all the rest wrong absolutely all the restaurant the believe in the triune God is the only true religion , so in essence, we believe there’s only one religion that’s true, we believe that there’s only one true faith, there’s one true baptism, and there’s one true holy Bible. It’s accurate and without error, so did the ESB get the right person killing Goliath?
@mikehoward455
@mikehoward455 10 месяцев назад
@@dantombs5697 You’re in a cult sir. I’m always amused at how mad KJVOers get when they find someone reading a different translation.
@garypritchard5836
@garypritchard5836 2 года назад
I understand the popularity of the ESV but I personally find it hard to read out loud even more difficult than the KJV and NASB. I prefer the modern English clearness and flow of the CSB. I enjoying studying the KJV, NKJV, ESV, NLT, CSB, and NASB for comparison and have several of each one in my library. I love and feel blessed that we have so many English bibles to choose from and feel that putting “Only” after any translation name is dangerous and close-minded. Thanks for your research and openness in this video!
@petey80
@petey80 2 года назад
I agree. I've never tried a CSB, I've added the Legacy Standard Bible in the last 6 months. I really like it. I read all of them frequently also.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
KJV is so flowly!!!
@Nick-wn1xw
@Nick-wn1xw Год назад
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries PARTS of it are for sure. Other parts, and there are a lot of them, are very much not "flowy".
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@@Nick-wn1xw They are all flowy.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@@Nick-wn1xw Well, I heard the other versions were corrupted. So I stick with KJV.
@d0g_0f_Christ0s
@d0g_0f_Christ0s 2 года назад
I'm a diehard NKJV, no matter where my little eyes wander, the NKJV feels like home. Yet, if the NKJV is home then the KJV is definitely where I work 😉🔧
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 11 месяцев назад
the NKJV is not the KJV
@eternallogic6394
@eternallogic6394 10 месяцев назад
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries that's a good thing. The NKJV is better.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 10 месяцев назад
No it is not.. it alsochanges doctrine@@eternallogic6394
@BibleTreasuresAndReviews
@BibleTreasuresAndReviews 2 года назад
My top 3 favorites are ESV, NASB, and Amplified classic. Thanks for the history and extra background information! I learn something new every day!
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@artistocracy
@artistocracy 2 года назад
Tim, your talk today is right on time for me, thank you very much, because my first ESV is arriving tomorrow! It is the Horween ESV from Crossway and I am very much looking forward to using it. Btw, recently I have returned to the Anglican church that my family always attended and I've been away from many years, so now they use the NRSV rather than the KJV of my youth which has been my only bible version until two and half years ago when I started also reading the NKJV. So this year alone, here in Australia, I've read the LSB Shamar goatskin which is great, then the NRSV purple Zondervan , so next is the Horween ESV! I love the word of God, and these new-to-me translations really open it up brilliantly! God bless you, brother.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@rudyvillarreal4482
@rudyvillarreal4482 2 года назад
In Seminary we have had a discussion about a growing "ESV onlyism" like "KJV onlyism" in a way. Some seem very tied to the ESV with a similar type of affinity. I love the ESV, but I also love the NKJV.
@billiamnotbob
@billiamnotbob 2 года назад
Exactly. This whole 'Onlyism' stuff is annoying and very divisive and some of its adhearants can be unhinged in their loyalty. I've had people tell me that if I don't use the KJV that I'm damned to Hell. What a fallen mess we are. Want some fun? Have you ever read the Geneva Bible? LOL I like a number of translations. Sometimes different wording can make something clearer.
@H1N1777
@H1N1777 2 года назад
I’m a NASB77 onlyist 😉
@billiamnotbob
@billiamnotbob 2 года назад
@@H1N1777 Some people's kids! ROTFL
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
The difference is that ESV-Onlyism isn't nearly as harmful. The ESV is in the same early-to-mid 20th century English as the RSV before it (which came out right after World War II). It is a bit archaic compared to its sister translation, the NRSV, but it's not in danger of being easily misunderstood due to 400 years of changes in word meaning. Plus, it's nowhere near as intense in its exclusivity. Even the most loyal of ESV users will still admit that the NASB is a perfectly good second choice, especially the 1995 edition. Granted, that might be as far as they budge: they might dismiss the NKJV for its textual basis and the NRSV for its theological leanings, despite these translations all being close relatives. And they might feel that even the CSB is pushing it in terms of non-literalness, let alone the NET and NIV. Finally, it's not as doctrinally dangerous. No one thinks that the ESV "corrects the Greek." No one insists on translating Bibles into other languages directly from the ESV. No one spouts a doctrine of double inspiration.
@rudyvillarreal4482
@rudyvillarreal4482 2 года назад
@@MAMoreno I agree, I was thinking in merely traditional terms, the ESV is the traditional text for this generation as KJV was for previous, which is funny because I can remember these ESV only peeps complain about traditions of the older Church goers, “stuck in their ways,” “not missional,” and now we have tradition. Funny how those things happen.
@DearWokeChristian
@DearWokeChristian 2 года назад
I can see your point, Tim. For me it's kinda true. Thanks for the history lesson on the revisions. By the way that mic sounds amazing. I never got it to sound that good w/o a ton of moving it around. Great work.
@John-hp8sg
@John-hp8sg 19 дней назад
Great job on comparing the two translations. This was an excellent video.
@michaelsowerby8198
@michaelsowerby8198 2 года назад
It seems to be a consensus of opinion, that the ESV feels like the natural successor to the KJV. I concur. Thanks for the analysis.
@guymontag349
@guymontag349 2 года назад
A consensus of opinion with whom? It is not my opinion.
@kylec8950
@kylec8950 Год назад
🤣
@michaelsowerby8198
@michaelsowerby8198 Год назад
@@guymontag349 that's why it's called a consensus, not an absolute majority.
@michaelsowerby8198
@michaelsowerby8198 Год назад
@@kylec8950 glad I made you laugh!
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
The KJV is far superior I mean it's in a different league .....Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@michaelaustin1020
@michaelaustin1020 2 года назад
I read your book, God Matters. Excellent! Just for your viewers who might not know, it is available in the Apple Book Store. I went through your book in 2 sittings. Great history video, thanks.
@twiceborn_by_grace
@twiceborn_by_grace 2 года назад
What is the “standard” by which the ESV, RSV, ASV and NASB go by? I’ve always wondered this?
@GmaJoKeepingitReal
@GmaJoKeepingitReal 2 года назад
First time I was able to hear how the translations are revised and their history. Awesome and thank you. GmaJo 👍
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Wait just wait! take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@dougbaker2755
@dougbaker2755 2 года назад
Tim, I enjoyed your video, as I usually do, being a subscriber to your channel. I think you are pretty right about the ESV. However, I think it would be an improvement if they had italicized words added by the translators. It would help make it a more complete Bible to do deep study in. Also, just a general thought: I hear a lot about local churches adopting a particular translation for use in their churches. That is a foreign experience to me. I am in a denomination that historically has used either the KJV or the NKJV in most of its congregations, but that has never been an actual policy per se. I can see the obvious advantage of everyone in a congregation using the same translation. But history also suggests that this practice too often gives rise to debates over translations and to members becoming emotionally attached to one particular translation, so that when another member starts to advocate for a different translation, it becomes a battle. It seems to me that intelligent Christians can follow along with a public reading of a Scripture even if they are using a different translation. Of course, for responsive readings of Scripture, the words could be placed on a screen or be placed on an insert page in the church bulletin. So have you ever considered producing a video discussing the pros and cons of congregations officially adopting a particular translation?
@LBCBrandon
@LBCBrandon 2 года назад
Great video, as always. As someone who comes from a more mainline perspective (albeit the more conservative side of the mainline perspective), I always appreciate your thoughts. It’s interesting because I feel like theologically conservative Christians might be more open to different translations than theologically liberal Christians. The materials that our churches often put out almost always recommend only the NRSV or the newer Common English Bible. Some might almost begrudgingly accept the NIV. Anything else is often discouraged. Yet when I attend church with my sister’s family (a Reformed Church), folks are using the KJV, ESV, NIV, NKJV, NLT, NASB, and more. It just seems indicative to me (and maybe ironic) that more theologically liberal Christians are becoming more and more closed off to other viewpoints. I just thought about that while watching your video.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
Well, if half the room is using the NRSV, and the other half of the room is using the ESV, then the whole room is reading the exact same words over half the time. As long as everyone's on the same "RSV update" page, it's a start.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@dayetonlarson8477
@dayetonlarson8477 2 года назад
Totally agree! ESV is my main study Bible, but I also use along side of it the CSB, and NKJV. However my KJV is not forgotten either ~ LoL! Like your book shelf (except for that NIV)...LoL
@dennisokada9287
@dennisokada9287 2 года назад
Have been using the ESV for about 10 years and not about to give it up anytime soon 😊
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@colorcreatively
@colorcreatively 2 года назад
Thank you for this type of video. It's very informative and I really like these types of videos that you make. I see the NKJV being used more than the ESV. However, I live in a small town with limited numbers of Christian Churches. I do love the ESV and recently purchased my first Premium Bible in the ESV. I will be using it more in the future but still like very much the NKJV....... JUST A SIDE NOTE: I know that the NASB is very popular also but I find it is not very enjoyable to read.
@VicGeorge2K6
@VicGeorge2K6 2 года назад
Actually, the lineage is KJV --> English Revised Version (ERV) --> ASV ---> RSV --> ESV.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
It really comes down to whether you consider the ASV to be a revision of the RV or just a second edition. The American Standard Version's official name is the Revised Version, Standard American Edition (but try fitting that on a Bible spine).
@maggieprice357
@maggieprice357 2 года назад
I think the tendency for tribalism in Bible translation is such a silly human thing. My husband and I use the ESV mainly but also use the NIV and the KJV. My husband grew up in a KJV only context and still loves it but switched to the ESV years ago as he wanted a modern translation that was similar. He really sees the ESV as the heir apparent to the KJV, even more so than the NKJV. Our pastor preaches from the ESV but we have a wide range of good translations being used by our congregation. I’ve seen ESV, NIV, NASB, KJV, and NKJV all being used on one given Sunday by the congregation in our church.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Wow that all sounds too bad.Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@duranbailiff5337
@duranbailiff5337 2 года назад
Brother, we may not be as educated, experienced, or smart as you, but we love your channel and are Bible geeks/nerds. Thanks for a great channel! I believe I have between 14 to 16 English translations, and I enjoy them all. I have two ESVs, but carry an NKJV to church. As my pastor reads the Bible in ESV, I follow along in the New King to get a feel for the differences. Hands down, the New King sounds better to my ear, and limited brain. If I had to live the rest of my life with only one Bible, I would have to choose the NKJV for my go to translation. 57 years in the KJV has developed a taste that continues to live on in the modernized NKJV. Two years I have delved into the New King and I have enjoyed every minute of the journey! 🙏🏼
@megalyon
@megalyon Год назад
NKJV for the win!! 🏆
@Nick-wn1xw
@Nick-wn1xw Год назад
So which one do you read? You never mentioned that.
@duranbailiff5337
@duranbailiff5337 Год назад
@@Nick-wn1xw At this point, I have 19 English translations of the Bible (not counting duplicates/editions). I plan on getting a print edition of the Geneva, and I want a deluxe LSB soon. Every one of them are special to me as they are God's Word. That said, I am still in the process of immersing myself in the NKJV. Once I have read every word of scripture text, the commentary by John MacArthur, and highlighted it completely, then I will move on to the next translation. I am at a loss to decide on the next one to delve into, as there are so many to choose from. For now. it's the NKJV. BTW, which one is your favorite?
@tony.biondi
@tony.biondi 2 года назад
Thanks, Tim, fascinating video. I think that here in the UK, the NIV is still quite widely used, although the ESV is gaining ground. I wish the ESV italicised supply words as the KJV, NKJV and NASB do.
@PrentissYeates
@PrentissYeates Год назад
Or dared to use the word “ begotten “
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@PrentissYeates do you ever notice that if you remove the word begotten exodus 4:22 makes the Bible contradict itself in John 3:16
@nobodyspecial1852
@nobodyspecial1852 7 месяцев назад
​@@PrentissYeatesit's not a deal breaker to me but I would prefer it. I'd prefer italics, red letter and capital deity pronouns more.
@nobodyspecial1852
@nobodyspecial1852 7 месяцев назад
​@@dantombs5697until the son of man came from the line of Israel and it's prophets and champions, "Israel" did carry the multigenerational paradigm of God's plan. Jesus took it, and remember that many times Israel, Jacob and Zion are used interchangeably (though they generally shouldn't be) for rhetorical purposes regarding lineage.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 7 месяцев назад
@@nobodyspecial1852 interesting View where do you go with this? This is just a curious tone.
@DavidIstre
@DavidIstre 2 года назад
I think you raise a lot of good points, though I think the ecclesial environment today is sufficiently different than in the 1600's that I don't think we should expect to see one translation occupy that space anymore in the English speaking world. For example, I think the ESV occupies the space you are talking about far more among reformed and American Christians today. When I was abroad, the only English speaking Christians I met using the ESV were in the reformed camp. Instead, the NIV was far more represented among international, evangelic, English speaking Christians. The NIV does not boast the same "heritage" or "lineage" that the ESV does, but, I don't think it is impossible for a new translation to step in to occupy that space in other regards. And I think the NIV is really stepping into that role right now. To me this is where our modern religious environment really comes into play. I think our diversity simply calls for more translations (which I think is a good thing). So I don't think we'll ever see another single version be as influential and formative in the English speaking Church simply because we're past that point. So I think it is more useful to think about translations (plural) that occupy that space in different spheres. In this sense I have seen the NET being used by translators in new translation works, including by translators working in other languages (for various reason). So there seems to be an influence the NET is having on other translations that is almost "cross pollinating" the translation world. The NIV and ESV I think speak for themselves. I think others are either stepping in or emerging as candidates to eventually occupy those places at some point in our life time.
@makarov138
@makarov138 2 года назад
You might be interested to know that there is an updated spelling version of the 1535 Matthew Bible's New Testament, Tyndale's translation. It is called The October Testament. I would love to see your take on this version. Work is being done on the Old Testament as well. But fear it is years away as yet. I've got the NT version on the way and waiting on it at his time. The version even has Tyndale, Coverdale and Rogers nots in it!
@jamesgossweiler1349
@jamesgossweiler1349 2 года назад
I like the LSB and NASB. ESV is o.k. too.
@anthonym.7653
@anthonym.7653 2 года назад
I stopped using the ESV in my regular daily rotation due mainly to Revelation 13:8. I have substituted it with the MEV which I read along with the NKJV and NASB95. But do still pull out my ESV study bible every now and then.
@TheChadPad
@TheChadPad Год назад
What is the issue you have with the verse in the esv? I've compared with the kjv, and the only difference I can find, besides the ordering of words, is the difference between "it" and "him, in reference to "the beast"
@evanarmont
@evanarmont 5 месяцев назад
​@@TheChadPad same here, I don't see any difference. It's not like the difference between it and him has any consequences, because either way it's bad news
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer Год назад
Thank you, Tim. I have to say, the English Standard Version certainly resonates with me. Its literary quality is top notch. I'll ad that I grew up on the KJV translation, so the phrasing it offers come naturally to me. All that said, I read from a broad range of Formal to Dynamic translations. I'd like to add that the KJV has the Tyndale translation as a large percentage of the text within the KJV.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@KyleSurette13
@KyleSurette13 2 года назад
I've been reading the Legacy Standard bible lately, and I'm really liking it, that and the NKJV make a good pair imo. NASB, too, but I believe the Legacy Standard to be superior to NASB. I think I'll replace the NASB once I can get a decent full bible of the Legacy Standard with translation notes and references.
@jamesgossweiler1349
@jamesgossweiler1349 2 года назад
I love the LSB.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 11 месяцев назад
is that calvisist John McArthur's Bible?
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries Calvinism is so so evil
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 10 месяцев назад
I agree..@@dantombs5697
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
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@RobbieCupples
@RobbieCupples 2 года назад
Great video, Tim!
@AFrischPerspective
@AFrischPerspective 2 года назад
Thanks!
@RobbieCupples
@RobbieCupples 2 года назад
@@AFrischPerspective you’re welcome!
@Rod-Wheeler
@Rod-Wheeler 4 месяца назад
I would like to see an update in 400 years.
@jimelliott1861
@jimelliott1861 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Tim for your perspective
@Scott619B
@Scott619B 3 месяца назад
To underline what your are saying: When the Anglican Church in North America was putting together the Book of Common Prayer 2019, the "off-screen" Biblican influence was the ESV, combined with an updated version of the Coverdale Psalter.
@philtanics1082
@philtanics1082 2 года назад
Good call Frisch. I never had formal education or anything, just a deep drive to know Gods' Word, but I can tell you from experience in the Bible study I teach we have gone from the KJV tot he NKJV to the NASB to finally rest on using the ESV, which is what now all the members use during our get togethers. Sure, it has some little things I think could be a little better put, but thats the case with every translation Ive ever read haha. The ESV for my money is as good as it gets in English.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
What are you talking about!Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/group/PLNGhZnJavRf01ILv3TJu_ke4IPYcKcpJm
@SK-mz4cq
@SK-mz4cq 2 года назад
I like the NASB because it’s the most literal and is less popular! The ESV is easier to read though thus why it’s more common.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
You need to get a KJV.Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@WWJD799
@WWJD799 3 месяца назад
​@@dantombs5697 Excellent catch, brother! Thank you for sharing this with us. I'll be sticking with the NKJV & KJV from now on.
@ThecrosseyedTexan
@ThecrosseyedTexan Год назад
You know one thing about the ESV I cannot find it in a large or giant print with cross references. The closest thing I found is a quintel and I might pick one up in a few months
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
True the ESV may be the Bible for blind but Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@itsstillcalledtoday9928
@itsstillcalledtoday9928 10 месяцев назад
​@@dantombs5697so basically the King James Bible is correct and every other translation is wrong? Friend disagreement about how to translate Greek words isn't demonic. The King James Bible is no more the standard for the English translation of God's word then the Latin was the standard for God's word. And I'm pretty sure no matter which translation we talked about you would come down on the side of the King James version.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@itsstillcalledtoday9928 hey let’s deal with the issue at hand did the ESV get the right person killing Goliath? It’s kind of a yes or no question and that’s OK. If it gets it wrong we’ll just work through all the other ones so that you can see the logic behind us.
@megalyon
@megalyon Год назад
Very interesting video thank you, I’ve been a NKJV Gal but I’ll check out the ESV, most likely their well rated study bible
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@wordforursoul787
@wordforursoul787 2 года назад
When the kjv bible came out a large crowd of people preferred the geneva bible the version people don't talk about much but it has a history the bible to first use number verses before that it was all paragraph. And the first family bible. The bible that came on the mayflower to America. But I do still love the kjv bible That's Been one of my struggles for long time moving to modern version bible because most of my memory can from the kjv bible. And the lsb bible could be a solid translation I have two of them I hope they come out with some study bibles and reference. And keep up the good work on ur channel
@duranbailiff5337
@duranbailiff5337 2 года назад
If you look into it, you will find that the KJV has borrowed much from the Geneva (and others) that preceded it.
@PrentissYeates
@PrentissYeates 2 года назад
I think the ESV took both the NKJV, NIV 1984 and the NASB audience due to it appeal to all evangelical bible readers. The NKJV is a repudiation of the 1984 NIV, since it basically came out at the same time. Thus, the ESV took away two groups of people, those put off or disagreed with the 2011 NIV ( albeit unfair bad press ) and those who wanted a modern translation that was literary and accurate , but not so dated. That said, I found the HCSB/CSB to be a close parallel to the ESV but reading smoother, but had it not come from a denominational publisher, the appeal would be more broad.
@legacyandlegend
@legacyandlegend 2 года назад
I love the esv. The kjv has its place, but it's too archaic for me. Not my thing. The esv is the successor though. Very similar.
@jimelliott1861
@jimelliott1861 4 месяца назад
Thank you Tim.
@brendagarnder9758
@brendagarnder9758 2 года назад
IS THE ESV EASIER TO READ Y UNDERSTAND THAN THE KJV? THANK YOU FOR SHARIN'! HAVE A HAPPY Y BLESS DAY!
@cfrost87
@cfrost87 2 года назад
Yes.
@brendagarnder9758
@brendagarnder9758 2 года назад
@@cfrost87 THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER! I'VE HAD A STROKE SO THE KJV HAS COME A LITTLE CHALLENGE FOR ME!
@cfrost87
@cfrost87 2 года назад
@@brendagarnder9758 If you want a bible that is still fairly formal, but easy to read, the CSB is right down the middle between formal and dynamic. But the ESV is still a good choice, as it's still formal, but readable. The ESV doesn't have what Mard Ward calls dead words and false friends like the KJV does.
@duranbailiff5337
@duranbailiff5337 2 года назад
God bless you as you heal and recover Sister! 🙏🏼
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
for me, kjv is best!! Its so flowing, I am not sure, its just is... the language, is poetry.
@glennosjv
@glennosjv Месяц назад
The Roman Catholic Church in the United Kingdom and India has decided to use the ESV as the official translation for use in their liturgy.
@allensagalla1579
@allensagalla1579 2 года назад
I just finished my devotional reading then this video was suggested. At that time I was reading among the KJV, NIV, ESV, NLT. Using the KJV as a standard, the closest to it would be the ESV 🙂
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
The ESV is brown fecal matter.Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
@GodisGracious1031Ministries 7 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/group/PLNGhZnJavRf01ILv3TJu_ke4IPYcKcpJm
@mattmanos1720
@mattmanos1720 2 года назад
Another key reason for the creation of the KJV was King James wanted a translation without textual notes that put the monarchy in a poor light, i.e, an alternative to the Geneva Bible that could be pushed by the crown.
@ta3p-theannex3project84
@ta3p-theannex3project84 2 года назад
They are all just translations of translations of translations.
@austintucker394
@austintucker394 Год назад
I thought the Geneva Bible was the base text for the King James Bible?
@AFrischPerspective
@AFrischPerspective Год назад
The KJV translators were given the commission of updating the Bishops Bible, I believe.
@Davidferrell1964
@Davidferrell1964 Год назад
Brother you are one of my favorite Christian nerds.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@normmcinnis4102
@normmcinnis4102 2 месяца назад
The ESV is a modern Westcott and Hort RSV from 1881
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I like NASB AND LSB BUT STILL LOVE KJV. IT IS WHAT I READ FOR YEARS SO EASY FOR ME. PURE POETRY.
@DarrenN72
@DarrenN72 2 года назад
From what I heard they are constantly updating the ESV without saying anything. So people's bibles may read differently if they are only a few years apart. I know different Bible versions do updates, but not as frequently as the ESV. I don't like that idea. I use the NASB which when they do an update the announce it and have versions such as the 1977, 1995, and now the 2020 version. All 77 versions read the same as well as all 1995 versions read the same, etc. I really don't want to get a Bible that might read differently than a Bible that was say printed only a year or two ago
@TTaylor
@TTaylor 2 года назад
I was gifted a NIV bible in 1994 and really like it. My wife just bought a new bible and went with NIV because it’s what I have. When we read together we realized that they’re different… changes that cross a line in my opinion. Anyway we’re going to try ESV. Im disappointed to hear that they change it frequently
@barbaramandy8708
@barbaramandy8708 Месяц назад
I can't get past the missing capitalization of He or Him when referring to our Lord. It seems disrespectful to see Jesus referred to as he and him....just like a normal person. NKJV is my main preference but I also read the Geneva Bible and the NASB '95.
@russell77962
@russell77962 2 года назад
I agree with you
@Nick-wn1xw
@Nick-wn1xw Год назад
I think it is beginning to become the modern standard. It's become my choice, and I have a lot to pick from.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
True there will be a great falling away,,,, Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@jaredb6323
@jaredb6323 Год назад
I definitely think that title goes to the NASB
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@jaredb6323
@jaredb6323 10 месяцев назад
Dude what are you talking about? The question was “is the ESV the KJV of our day?” Not your opinion on Bible versions? Also, even the KJV translators saw the value in updating text… sooo good luck with that
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@jaredb6323 so I believe in inspiration of the word of God, that it is alive and living. It hasn’t died. Some people believe that the inspired work of God is the autographs. So scriptures are not living anymore. Inspiration means God breathed, God breathed on man and became a living soul, God breathed on the dead bones in Ezekiel, and became alive. There’s evidence in the new testament that the scriptures are alive maybe not the sense that we consider it. But they are powerful and if they’re with error, then it certainly isn’t the word of God . What do you think about the ESV getting the wrong person killing Goliath?
@jaredb6323
@jaredb6323 10 месяцев назад
Bud, I rarely read the ESV so you’re asking the wrong dude. I read the KJV, NKJV, and CSB. I use the CSB because in the footnotes, it always notes the differences in manuscripts, referencing TR and the other line. But my comment and this video were about neither of those issues. I also believe that the word is LIVING.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@jaredb6323 right right good on you for using the KJV, yeah the CSB has the wrong person killing Goliath. yeah and sorry to imply that you were digging into these modern translations. But most of those modern translations are either missing really important scripture or change significantly enough to affect the outcome of the verse. I can give you samples, but you know if you’re in the KJV You’re doing way better off than most
@eternallogic6394
@eternallogic6394 10 месяцев назад
Is this really a serious question? The KJV of our day is the NKJV.
@jonasaras
@jonasaras Год назад
FWIW most Calvary Chapel churches use NKJV
@davecrawford4377
@davecrawford4377 2 года назад
Hi Tim I agree with everything you said about the ESV. I believe in 20 years or less people that do read the KJV will be switching to the ESV, because of great difficulty of the old language of the KJV. Thank you very much Tim.
@aumtheaum3827
@aumtheaum3827 11 месяцев назад
I love the CSB and the NKJV the most.
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Just take a look at second Samuel 21:19 they got the wrong person killing Goliath. Now if you go to the New Testament you're gonna read John 3:16. They've taken the word begotten out which is so terribly important in the early creeds. Just take a look at exodus 4:22 and you'll find out how it contradicts John 3:16.... Then read Matthew 18:11… Catch this first Timothy 3:16 they mistake in the word Theos Greek word for God to for Heos, Greek word for he... Wow can you see the demonic influence right there. That says it all!!!
@aumtheaum3827
@aumtheaum3827 10 месяцев назад
I’ll check that out. What do you read? KJV only?
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
@@aumtheaum3827 I believe that scriptures are God breathed, they’re alive, just like God breathed on the dust of the ground and man became a living soul. Like Ezekiel saw the dead bones and God breathed on him, and they became alive. So I believe that there is a Bible without error. do you or do you think it was only the autographs that were inspired and the scripture is dead now?
@ShoelessJoeChristian
@ShoelessJoeChristian 2 года назад
I'm Catholic and I'm so happy that in 2017 we finally got a Catholic Edition of the ESV! It has replaced the RSV-2CE as my go-to translation. And the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales has now approved the ESV-CE for their new English-language lectionary!
@rubiks6
@rubiks6 2 года назад
Not meaning to hurt your feelings but I must be insulting and say, I didn't think Roman Catholics were much interested in what the Bible actually says. For example, do you think Mary is a perpetual virgin and that she is immaculate?
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
@@rubiks6 Believing in tradition in addition to the Bible isn't showing disinterest in the Bible. The New Testament never says that Mary was NOT an immaculate perpetual virgin, so you have an argument from silence at best. (And yes, Jesus had brothers according to the NT, but the fourth Gospel suggests that John was given charge over Mary after the crucifixion. Surely James would've been in charge of taking care of Mary if she were his biological mother, right?) Granted, I do think that these Mariological traditions are unreliable secondary developments, but I also don't think that they're a good measurement of one's view of the Bible.
@rubiks6
@rubiks6 2 года назад
@@MAMoreno - Believing in tradition _instead of_ (when it conflicts with) the Bible was specifically condemned by Jesus. (Mark 7.1 - 12 is just one example. Pay special attention to verses 7 and 8.) _"The New Testament never says that Mary was NOT an immaculate perpetual virgin ..."._ False. "He went away from there and came to his hometown, and his disciples followed him. And on the Sabbath he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were astonished, saying, “Where did this man get these things? What is the wisdom given to him? How are such mighty works done by his hands? Is not this the carpenter, the *_son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon?_* And are not *_his sisters_* here with us?” And they took offense at him." Mark 6.1 - 3 (ESV) Jesus had 4 brothers, two of whom became New Testament authors. Jesus had sisters. Mary, the mother of Jesus was certainly not a perpetual virgin. You ignore the Scriptures and follow Roman Catholic (false) traditions. In Luke 1 Mary sings a song which begins, "My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior ..." Why did Mary call God her "Savior"? Because she knew she needed a savior because she knew she was a sinner like all persons. Mary was not immaculate. She was a sinner like the rest of us. Again you reject the Scriptures and cling to the man-made traditions of the Roman Catholic church. Commandment 1 - "You shall have no other gods before me." (Exodus 20.2) Yet, the Roman Catholic church violates this command by elevating Mary as the Queen of Heaven and teaching their followers to pray to her, teaching that Jesus, the Son of God, who died on the cross for your sins is inaccessible. Did Mary die on a cross for anyone or in any way suffer for us? Commandment 2 - "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." - (Exodus 20.4 - 6) The Roman catechism actually removes this commandment from the list because the Roman church violates this thousands upon thousands of times with images of saints and angels, even demons, Mary, images of Jesus that couldn't possibly be Jesus, etc. When a Pope kisses a statue of Mary, he is most certainly violating this commandment but I repeat - the Roman church has removed this commandment, rejecting the Word of God to honor their own invented traditions. ----------------------------------------------------------- Now I've told you the truth and shown you the Scriptures. You are at a crossroads. You have to make a choice. You can believe God and His Word and change your mind about the Roman Catholic church or you can reject God's Word and thereby reject the God of the Bible and worship the false god(s) of Roman Catholicism and lie to yourself and convince yourself that you are not the recipient of a massive deception. Choose this day whom you will serve - the God of the Bible or the god(s) of the Roman Catholic church.
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 2 года назад
@@rubiks6 why would you take the time to be divisve? How is that edifying the Body of Christ? What did pointing out a Catholic belief that you disagree with have to do with choice of Bible translation? The person was expressing joy about obtaining an ESV-CE, and your greatest impulse was to indicate: "You still can't prove to me that you're in the club! PASS MY LITMUS TEST!" Immaturity on your part. WWJD!! 🤔
@rubiks6
@rubiks6 2 года назад
@@brendaboykin3281 - WWJD? He would speak out against false teachings that lead people to Hell. Read the gospels. Learn about the real Jesus. Learn how he spoke to the Pharisees. You haven't a clue what Jesus would do. Pick up your Bible and read it. Learn about the Man/God you claim to follow. False teachings lead people to eternal Hell. It's just that simple.
@mrmister6058
@mrmister6058 Месяц назад
Besides the KJV, I must go with what is accurate to the manuscripts although I really struggle reading. I will read but yet it is like I must go back to the KJV. But in my honest opinion, I think the RSV of 1952 is the most accurate, getting rid of the Catholic Latin words, virgin and Lucifer. But that is my opinion.
@wjckc79
@wjckc79 2 года назад
The flexible licensing of the ESV demands respect and is the primary reason for its dominance.
@rubiks6
@rubiks6 2 года назад
You are right about the literary quality of the KJV. I actually prefer and find it easier to memorize KJV than any more modern translation because of its poetic sound and cadence. (Consider John 15.) That being said, I do not consider the KJV to be very faithful to the original languages. Consider how many times "doulos" is translated "servant" like someone who is employed to clean our house or bring food to our table. "Doulos" is "slave" - a person who is _owned_ by another person. We are God's slaves, Jesus' slaves. He owns us, purchased with his blood. The ideas and paradigms conveyed by this relationship are lost in the KJV unless someone else points them out and you look for them hidden in the text. This relationship, foundational to our Christian life is not even known to many Christians because of the influence of the KJV. I have yet to find a translation wholly satisfactory but for various reasons I find myself using ESV the most when interacting with others. As for my personal studies, I use many translations as well as Greek and Hebrew dictionaries (not all are equal) and various commentaries. It is crucially important to me that when someone tells me the Scripture says such and such, that it actually says that.
@GodisGracious1031Ministries
we are his servants, not slaves.
@thewayfarersjourney6336
@thewayfarersjourney6336 2 года назад
And more than the KJV. We Catholics are now more accepting of the ESV with lectionaries approved and being approved.
@brynnsahved3681
@brynnsahved3681 2 года назад
Jesus Christ is God incarnate who came to earth to be born and live a perfect life, a sinless life. (He is one person of the Trinity, consisting of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; one God in three persons not three Gods.) Jesus then gave Himself up to be crucified and died to pay for the sins of the whole world. My sin, your sin, the sins of everybody. 3 days later He was resurrected. He now offers salvation to all who will turn from their sin and trust Him to save them from eternity in hell. He paid our debts because we couldn't, but we have to trust Him to do it. I cannot add anything to what He has done (not even baptism). I cannot do enough good to take even a year off of my death sentence in hell. The sentence is a never ending one, because I have sinned against an eternal God. But Jesus took my punishment, He saved me, and offers that same salvation to you. I am praying for you.
@bwhunter1991
@bwhunter1991 Год назад
This is a joke right?
@tradcath2976
@tradcath2976 2 года назад
Honest question: why do many Evangelical Protestants tend to be obsessed with English bible translations? (ESV v. NASB v. NIV, etc.) Corollary question: why do many Evangelical Protestants also seem to be obsessed with bible formats, e.g., "premium" leather, "perimeter stitching," goatskin, calfskin, leather colors, "re-binds," etc.?
@AFrischPerspective
@AFrischPerspective 2 года назад
Because they love and respect the Bible
@tradcath2976
@tradcath2976 2 года назад
@@AFrischPerspective So do Catholics and Orthodox.
@jamest4659
@jamest4659 2 года назад
Unfortunately, a few people in every denomination think their's is the "true church".
@knightrider585
@knightrider585 9 месяцев назад
Were the "conservatives" at the time of the KJV the Puritans or the Catholics? haha
@deannascott3475
@deannascott3475 2 года назад
The King James translators were initially told to revise the Bishops Bible, but they later on in the process decided to start anew, and make a fresh new translation. So the King James version is not a revision of the Bishops Bible as is claimed here in the video.
@Hospody-Pomylui
@Hospody-Pomylui 2 года назад
It's 75% Tyndale or more.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
It very much is a revision of the Bishops' Bible, as can be easily demonstrated by its strong similarities to that previous translation (and to the Geneva Bible, for that matter).
@davidcalhoun7385
@davidcalhoun7385 2 года назад
The cover of David Norton's "A Textual History of the King James Bible" shows a page from the Bishops' Bible marked up with notes from the translators.
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 2 года назад
The ESV is biased toward a particular soteriology. Guess which one.
@mikerichards8400
@mikerichards8400 Год назад
Which one? Please tell us. I've never heard that.
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 Год назад
@@mikerichards8400 Calvinism. It is slanted toward the Reformed/TULIP view which teaches predestination. Its General Editor was James I. Packer, the leading Calvinist of his day. Others who worked on the translation were also Calvinists.
@mikerichards8400
@mikerichards8400 Год назад
@@davemitchell116 please give more details about the Calvinism found in it. Which passages are translated in a Calvinist manner? We need to know.
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 Год назад
@@mikerichards8400 There are scores of podcasts, Internet articles and RU-vid videos on this subject. You'll appreciate it more if you do your own research like I did.
@mikerichards8400
@mikerichards8400 Год назад
@@davemitchell116 I understand, but I would like you to give me three or four passages the ESV has changed or perverted to endorse Calvinism. Such examples from you would help us so much. Actual proof of the ESV's Calvinism. Please.
@lauriesmith218
@lauriesmith218 2 года назад
I will read nothing but the KJV. I grew up with it and I trust it.. Enough said.
@Lance.West4
@Lance.West4 2 года назад
Please read me Atcs 8-37 from the esv. When you find it, you'll understand why your justification is wrong. Then ask yourself why they leave that verse out and several others. It appeals to liberal doctrines who have to get Jesus out of the Bible so they can teach their watered down everyone's going to make it to heaven gospel. Just be a "good person".
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
Here's Acts 8.37 in the ESV: "And Philip said, 'If you believe with all your heart, you may.' And he replied, 'I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.'” Yes, it's in the footnote, but it's there. Speaking of footnotes, those of the NKJV and NET do a sufficient job of explaining why this verse doesn't appear in the main text of most modern Bibles: it isn't commonly found in the Greek manuscripts.
@Lance.West4
@Lance.West4 2 года назад
@@MAMoreno which Greek manuscripts? The received text or the Alexandria text?
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
@@Lance.West4 The Received Text was created by Erasmus, Stephanus, and Beza, so it obviously wasn't that Reformation-era work. If you mean the Byzantine text type that is (imperfectly) reflected in the Textus Receptus, then at least there's some argument to be made for its antiquity.
@Lance.West4
@Lance.West4 2 года назад
@@MAMoreno Just because a text is older doesn't make it correct. I'm not a Bible scholar thank God because most aren't Christians. But I know enough to not be fooled. I believe God is strong enough to keep his word for us (John 1-1) and when in doubt, I will go for the one that's not taking out very important verses about the virgin birth, salvation, when we get baptized etc, etc. Ask God to open your eyes on which Bible is correct. They all can't be correct! Ask yourself why they take out acts 8-37. Read verse 37 and think why they want to put doubt in your mind. I mean if verse 37 is wrong what is verse 36 asking?? Why is verse 36 still there?? For it to make sense 36 needs to be gone also. Think about it seriously.... What are the first words out of Satan's mouth? He put doubt in Eve and it worked like a charm. He does the same thing with these new Bible translations. Call me old fashioned, idiot, hillbilly, idc. When it comes to God, I believe you're better off being in the book that holds Jesus in the highest literal divinity possible than a watered down feel good version. JESUS IS LORD AND THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
@@Lance.West4 John 1.1 isn't about the Bible, and to equate the Bible with the Word that became flesh--Jesus Christ--is arguably heretical (especially when you try to figure out how that makes any sense from a Trinitarian perspective), so you might want to use a different verse to support your argument. Acts 8.36 is a rhetorical question. Obviously, that rhetorical question bugged somebody at some point, which explains how verse 37 emerged in the Western textual tradition. And just because a translation "holds Jesus in the highest literal divinity possible," that doesn't make it a good translation. I could make a paraphrase that would make The Message look like Young's Literal Translation by comparison, and I could fill every chapter with an extra line about the divinity of Christ, but it wouldn't be a faithful representation of the Bible. That's why a more pious reading in a certain passage can't be automatically assumed as the original reading.
@Witness4Jesus59
@Witness4Jesus59 Год назад
Not true. Go read Acts 8 with the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch. Read in context his salvation experience in both the KJV & your ESV. You’ll quickly see that in the ESV vs. 37 is missing. In the KJB Phillip ask “If you believe with your heart” The ESV omitting that verse when you read it in context teaches water baptism is salvation like Catholics teach. The ESV is a Reformist Calvinist Bible.
@kurtn652
@kurtn652 2 года назад
Answer. No. The ESV is not the textus receptus.
@makarov138
@makarov138 2 года назад
Correct. It is the Critical Text as its basis. The KJB and earlier translations use the TR. I've got a NT Tyndale translations on order. Waiting for it like crazy!
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
Another similarity between the KJV and the ESV is that the translators used up--to-date scholarship. If the ESV relied on the Textus Receptus, that would be like the KJV relying on the Vulgate for its New Testament text.
@manfredcaranci6234
@manfredcaranci6234 2 года назад
@@MAMoreno It's been noted that where parts of the Greek used for the NT of the KJV were missing, the translators had to resort to the Vulgate! (I love this.) Ironically when Archbishop Challoner revised the original (1582/1609) Douay-Rheims between 1749 and 1752, he borrowed extensively from the KJV.
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 2 года назад
Absolutely not. I am not a KJV Onlyist but the KJV and the ESV have 2 different textual bases, one the Majority/ByzantineText and the other the Critical Text. The Majority Text is superior and I'm o.k. with any translation that is faithful to it employing formal equivalence. The Critical Text omits so much and it always seems to be words and passages undergirding vital and fundamental doctrines. Granted, certain parts in Critical Text versions may be better rendered than the KJV, NKJV or the MEV but I just don't trust them. Like going into war with a blunt butter knife at worst or machete at best as opposed to a well honed and very sharp sabre or scimitar.
@seanchaney3086
@seanchaney3086 Год назад
No, the KJV is the KJV of our time...
@Textex1611
@Textex1611 2 года назад
The KJV is the KJV of our day. Gods perfect, preserved word in the English language
@igregmart
@igregmart 2 года назад
The King James version is the King James version of our day. The ESV is just another "modern" per-version in a long line of per-versions. BTW, I will NOT go to a church that does not use the The Holy Bible, aka the King James version.
@ernieland2480
@ernieland2480 2 года назад
Is the ESV the KJV OF OUR DAY? NO!
@bradwilson525
@bradwilson525 2 года назад
No
@dantombs5697
@dantombs5697 10 месяцев назад
Sure sheeple like sweet stuff that looks good. But the ESV is a work of crud. If I had a KJV round and I ran out of toilet paper and there is an ESV Bible I know what I'd be using. Just take a look at Second Samuel 21:19 I got the wrong person killing Goliath, and the New Testament even worse.
@kylec8950
@kylec8950 Год назад
Not even close. The ESV is a highly overrated, subpar translation
@deniemarie5010
@deniemarie5010 2 года назад
Hey brother Tim already subscribed. Love the topics love the reviews. Does this mean I'm a nerd?🤔✝️📖🙏🤍
@AFrischPerspective
@AFrischPerspective 2 года назад
I'm afraid so! 🤓😆
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