Is the iPhone "Illegal?" 

Not really. It also applies to asian countries.

Yea and tbh they hype if having an iPhone isn’t there I’ve used androids all my life and I got my first iPhone (iPhone 13) 9 months ago and I genuinely don’t see the hype of most the features I’m supposed to “hype” about

Yep I tell people all the time that they are just following trends with no actual reasoning.

Nowadays people are also considering samsunga flagships so, this thinking will be eventually gone

Most USA users do not think this. I use iPhone and I can see why some people would want android.

I don't know why people would want to limit themselves to a text app anyways. Like don't you have friends on Facebook, insta, etc? I mean I'm pretty much 90% done quitting social media, but even I keep them because they're useful to message people. Screw looking at Facebook or insta, but I'd rather that than do text messages.

Same in Europe with 30% market share

Yeah I don't understand the obsession with blue bubbles

Do people use the WhatsApp app a lot in your country?

​@Nimisum People naturally want to feel like they're part of an elite group. No matter how silly it or small it may be

Time to ghost your bro'.

I'd take both the receipt and the phone back and keep my money.

What a waste. Next time keep your money.

Man, I just got the s24 ultra and this thing is top notch 👌 the features are just amazing and I've used android for years, but this last purchase I was actually considering an iPhone. After looking at their internal hardware and ecosystem, I decided there was no way in hell I was gonna sacrifice the better features, hardware, tech, and adjustments that android, specifically the Samsung Galaxy, has. The ONLY other phones I'd consider would be the newest Asus Rog, Think Phone, and maybe the new Moto flip. They had some pretty top notch features and hardware as well, specifically Rog, which I almost did buy.

I wouldn’t cry if someone were to give me a S24 or S23 Ultra but you probably gave him a boost mobile prepaid android phone so I don’t blame him 🤷🏻‍♂️

He is a good man for that.

So based! Good for him. Thankfully he won’t have to put up with Android anymore!

This is exactly where the "broke Android green bubbles" stereotype comes from.. Females. Women have openly admitted they will refuse a date with men if they have "green text bubbles". 🤦 People who claim this isn't reality are living in their own _bubble._

As someone who switched from android to iPhone in the last year, I do enjoy using iMessage a lot more than the android texting apps. As a graphic designer, I'm willing to pay extra for the outstanding UX/UI that is in Apple products

​@@ThunderfallFilmshe literally got an iphone cause of FOMO, not better features which iphones don't have. that's messed up dude.

I can relate, 2 of my friends have an iPhone but they rarely ever use iMessage well because nobody uses cellular messaging and a lot of people think that iMessage is cellular messaging

Exactly none of my friends who own iphones ever uses iMessage 😂

yeah for that whatsapp is the main one for family and now insta for teens

True. Indian here… my friends who use iPhones still have the green bubbles, we literally don’t care as long as there’s WhatsApp.

That's great tbh

Based.

Yup, that's exactly what the evil leeches at Apple want your kids to think.

🗿

means you are the smart one 😂

great parenting lmao

Yup! I too own an iPhone but it will never be the dominant one! It will mostly restrict itself to around 20-30% at best. And most of the iPhone people are buying are either 1-3 year old & bare basic 128GB models not, even the mid-level, so they are spending more for a lesser product. Also the Android update game is picking up at a great pace. And the price bracket where people are buying those iPhones, most Android companies give 2-3 yrs of update & most of them switch their device after 3-4 years, not much of a difference. Apple's philosophy doesn't really match with the majority of Indians & that's a good thing.

That’s a terrible analogy. We’re talking about a cell phone… is primary function is communication. Except modern day society rather text than make a phone call. Therefore, choosing a phone based on its messaging app is closer to buying a car based off of the horsepower it can deliver..

@@FlightBoyKizer yeah no. Any phone can msg, your just mad my analogy is spot on

@@FlightBoyKizerNo sir. I have an iPhone and have never used iMessage or FaceTime and it feels no different from my Samsung except for how it looks.

that's a horrible way to phrase it since a phone's primary is MESSAGING LMAO. By your analogy choosing a car based on the way it drives is a bad thing

@@JoeOf91 it’s obvious you didn’t understand my analogy if that’s what you got from it. Also a phones primary function is not messaging. It’s… wait for it, Making phone calls

Pakistani here, same thing. I never heard of imessage until i got older and learned about it from netflix lol. We all were viber users and now WhatsApp users

Same here in Asia

Same here in Austria. Never even used iMessage before. And I don’t know anyone actually using it either. I reckon it‘s the same in Asia with Line.

Here's in Greece it's Messenger, it's still Meta, but looking at this US perspective where iPhone is like a standard is so funny

Same here in Brazil 🇧🇷 Nobody uses iMessage, just WhatsApp.

We use SMS when we can't decide which other messaging system to use. I suggest Signal, Telegram or RCS; others suggest Messenger or WhatsApp. It is good as a common basis. BTW, RCS does not work without internet connection. So you almost certainly don't get RCS messages when you can't connect to the internet. You probably get SMS messages then.

Honestly it’s confusing text messages is so much more expensive.. I can get unlimited WhatsApp for 25 naira that’s less than 1 cents sooo why not whatsapp

You SMS. RCS needs the internet.

No one outside of the US knows, uses or cares about RCS.

Norway use sms/ iMessage, snap, messenger And watchapp or other apps if you have family or something in other countries

So gay Tim can steal your data instead,

We chat emplyoyee: hmm write that down. Make a phone and gate keep

That's the stupidest reason to switch a phone I've ever seen

Seems to be a country, rather than a phone problem.

@@alcrian8627 you say that, but it's not uncommon. So, what you call stupid is just you not understanding other people. Stupid is a gross oversimplification for what you don't understand, and it's tempting because it makes you smart.

@@kyleyoung1982 No, it's just plain stupid really.

@@alcrian8627 True

It is also kind of funny that Whatsapp is from US

I was going to make the same comment, most of the people in the US have no idea how expensive apple products are in Brazil.

But Brazil is a poor country. Y'all are still playing PS2 and PS3.

@@electrikoptik Brazil has the 9th biggest economy in the world, we abandoned ps3 ages ago, most people already have ps4 and most didn't change to ps5 cuz it's not worth yet because there's no games, anyway the reason is because of crazy taxes, when we buy on iphone we pay the price of 2, literally buying one for the government lmao

@@electrikoptik wow you sound like such a swell guy

but no proof they survived the tosses 😅

timestamp?

@@skodaroomster8124 12:25

​@@skodaroomster8124 13:02

@@skodaroomster8124exactly I need it

Kid is mad that he can’t afford an iphone lol. It’s ok bro grapes that you can’t reach are always sour

@@SuperDuperSeb Sheep spotted Bruh,, Samsung's some products are more expensive than Iphone being rich does not mean you have to use iphone to show for it...

@@SuperDuperSebwhats wrong with you? you are hating for no reason at all and your yt channel is disturbing af, like who makes meme shorts about a person who died of cancer?

Not mentioning this in the video was a bit of a blunder...

Exactly. Dumb ppl like to say "but samsung and google do the same thing" without noting that its apples fault bc they block it on their end.

Also it's important to point out that Android watches work with ANY android device, so the argument is really not the same as the Apple Watch. This means there's not just 1 company holding the monopoly over the ecosystem - anyone can be a part of it. There's various brands of watches and switching between those is seamless and non-restrictive. Apple is the one that doesn't like open source and wants to block compatibility.

​@@MartinodFExactly. He omitted a lot of context in order to favor Apple.

​@@spriteqcx0Yup! Also we have AOSP(Android Open Source Project) anyone is able to custom make their own Android/Version OS & yet be compatible with Android.

What's your general feeling about what could happen to Apple

Eh I wouldn't say eloquently. His explanation wasn't adequate. However his effort was good.

​@@kcopara1shut up

Never met such a accomplished person in youtube comment. I sincerely hope you succeed in your mission in life.

Could you reply to my comment with a summerized version of what your students' takes were? (Once they have replied of course) Thanks in advance!

As long as it fulfill your needs, It doesn’t matter.

At least WhatsApp ist just better that iMessage …

What happens if you have two people that are using different apps?…one is using WhatsApp and the other is using a similar, but different app. Just curious if that ever happens and how do they message one another?

@@mariussignorello exactly

because a new chat app comes out every five minutes. one day its aol, then the next day everyone switches to yahoo. then it's google, then now everyone has blackberrys and they are using blackberry messenger, then its facebook, then everyone just gave up and everyone has "generic text messaging" on their phone as a default anyway let's just use that. The USA is not "A" place. it is a microcosm of dozens of local cultures that work independently and it is not likely that the entirety of the population will agree on a communication app. And then if they did ... IS that communication a monopoly? What kind of Walled garden would that communication app put up such as hailing a taxi , or ordering food, or paying your bills ... I'm not a lawyer maybe Apple is a monopoly ... maybe they are not one this is a lawsuit that will take years to resolve. One thing that lawmakers can do today is put pressure on wireless carriers to make the default text messaging more robust, to essentially make Imessage redundant in the first place.

@@BassRacerx two reasons Other apps allow crossapp integration Apple doesn't allow other apps and other devices to utilize iphone to the fullest, only apple products can do that Which is the monopoly problem in this case. It's not that everyone else' product is just shit compared to apple, it's that apple prevents others from reaching their audience.

Apple is the _ne_ _plus_ _ultra_ of consumer electronics. The rest don’t matter.

It still has that image in the U.S tbh

Probably their personal phone is an iPhone 😜

If you live in places like Cambodia, India, Philippines, Basically any asian countries, You will see a lot of teenagers using Android Phones more than iPhones and all they care about is powerful specs for gaming, They don't care about brand image like people in the US and UK

Most of the dealers I know in the US use iphone

Same

Cool

The walled garden is almost as bad on Windows or Android these days. I just get the product that is easiest to work with, doesn't have weird errors or malfunction and allows me to get stuff done.

Same

I like the freedom and independence! Isn't that's what America was all about? :O xD!!! I do have both iPhone 14 Pro Max and Samsung S23 Ultra and the S23 is like a 1 device that acts as an equivalent all 3 iPhone + iPad + a base model of a iMac. So the iPhone is basically my cheap camera cause the Sony Cameras a re 4x 5x the price of an iPhone and I am no pro xD!!!

Mobicel users 😂

XIAOMI: hold our Tsingtao 🍻🍺

Not a status symbol, a symbol of the tech illiterate.

Wrong. It's not because it's expensive. Tractors are expensive and are not a status symbol. Apple is a status symbol because it has positioned its brand as a luxury brand and marketed it as such. And because people are DU MB AF!

@@costafilh0 Xiaomi has positioned itself as a CHEAPer Version of 🍏 It even sells its Smartphones as Affordable 🍎 Counterparts

at what time?

@@capyslay_guobaAround 9:10 to 9:28 ish

Marques is the only editor of this channel. It’s the one thing he will never allow someone else to do.

​@@MylesKillisthat's just blatantly wrong

Bhadiya thik

"they can't build a messaging app and have the same access to the underlying iOS features that iMessage has" Actually, they did. Apple refused to allow it to be installed.

@@Folsomdsf2 which is even worse...

That's the case on Brazil too.

Yeah pretty much, the monopoly isn't Apple, but the US carriers

my work chats on my android are a mess. every time we need to add or remove a new coworker we've got to make an entirely new chat. sometimes a coworker will talk in one chat and someone else will respond in another. so frustrating

Go you for not being afraid to be different. Apple ain’t all that, and I always think their greed will catch up to them sooner or later

I understand- I use a pixel and I am in middle school and people DO care too much. The “you have an android?!” gets exasperating after a while

They have no problems adding the Google Assistant or You Tube! Where would they be without Them!?

Why not just use WhatsApp?

What a isheep

I think he several times conflated the issues of apple the company and apple the ecosystem in his examples with Google. You can take you google watch and use it with any other Android phone - you have a ton of options about what company you purchase you phone from. You aren't locked into one company.

Thank you for pointing it out. It's funny how Marques somehow finds ways to say Apple isn't so bad.

true about Sony. but look at cannon :)

​@georgivasilev3417 i am not aware of this, will it be an issue for me when choosing which camera ecosystem to follow? Thanks for the info

It's somewhat of a feedback loop because kids will be ostracized and bullied if they don't have an iPhone. They ask their parents for an iPhone because they'll get made fun of if they get something else

Cause the iPhone is American, why would they choose other products beside their home grown companies?

In regards to the messaging app thing, having seen this in school, it is genuinely a case of most people being too lazy/uninterested to even consider using an app that isnt built in. That, and a surprising amount of people my age aren’t aware of the existence of apps beside instagram and snapchat, so trying to get any amount of people to use anything else is basically impossible. The people who have never even looked in the settings of their phone will never use third party anything.

Mid 20s EU-Citizen here. It really is weird. I use an iPhone for various reasons (mainly smart home stuff) but I’m pretty open for other devices as well and might switch when matter finally takes of. And here it’s fine. I’m mostly using Signal and Discord for my communication. Half of my friends have Android phones and we’re all good. Basically everyone I spoke to in my life so far does not care about the phone. It’s the simple question of: WhatsApp, or Discord? Of course I met people that say the moment I get my phone out: „Eww you’re using an iPhone? What’s wrong with you, everyone knows iPhones suck“ to what I respond: „Why do you care about my choice of phone?! And when it’s so bad why would I care to use one?!“ That shuts up most people. I also experienced the other way around when I was using an Android phone. It’s just stupid. Let people use what they like and move on. I seriously don’t get why people get so upset over a friends choice of phone. We all have our preferences and needs and buy devices that fit these needs. And when my application requires an iPhone to work properly, I’m gonna use an iPhone.

​@@haruyanto8085 both google & android are also from usa

There's people living where? Is that another planet?

@@madhououinkyomai think he’s just lying don’t worry about it

This right here.

😂😂😂😂 I notice this in Jamaica too. Flexing an IPhone and they don’t even have the latest.

I havent missed that part of school for a second.

Hate the fact that iphone has a reputation like that in country’s like the US.

Just whip your stylus out on em and show them your harry potter style magic tricks. *waves hand around* "Oh look at this, I can go back to my home screen remotely."

That’s odd. Because “as a film composer and content creator, and prosumer” I need the walled garden for my workflow to work. Unfortunately no other company or group of companies bother to step up and match that level of integration and seamless workflow with their own apps and development. Imo, Apple is the only hardware/software company that provides the goods and services that my industry and my workflow demand.

User may approach, but he may never leave. User is trapped inside.

@@jannikheidemann3805 Happily. Because it’s done right.

@@TheSteveSteeleto each their own. I went from a flagship samsung and tried apple and now im stuck with a newer iPhone that i hate.

​@@TheSteveSteeleWithout a developer, not possible. You are not understanding his point & what you presented is not an argument compatible with his OG argument!

Android does with with airpods. They work honestly perfectly fine. I use Sony WH-1000MX5 headphones and airpod pros gen-1, they both work equally well.

They designed Airpods and Apple Watch very well too. They should be awarded for it, and they are being awarded by user retention. What’s wrong with that?

​@@ahmetemreboyaci what's wrong, is that if a company makes something sooo good and sooo innovative, then they should have the confidence to say like "hey, check this out, isn't this cool, feel free to check out everything else, but eventually, ur gonna come back to use cuz we're the best" But instead the company goes, "hey we got this new thing, that no one ever has made, check it out... But we're gonna make it sooo hard for u to try anything else so that u can compare if it's still the best..." Also, just for info sake, even comparing the power of an android chip, and an iPhone chip is becoming sooooo difficult that Test companies like Geekbench are admitting that their score now won't even be accurate because apple doesn't allow their tests to be run for a fair comparison... It's really good that they made the best phone, the best ipods, the best watch, the best everything... But if it IS the best, then let us see for ourselves right??? Imagine Bugatti or Rolls Royce making u sign a contract demanding a special license that only let's u drive their cars and disallows u from driving anything else... Last point I could make, is that suppose a guy only wants the best camera setup as his smartphone... He would go for the Sony... (Imagine he REALLY wants the DSLR integration feature, and wants to connect his Camera and Phone as one) But he also wants a good watch... But can't use the Apple watch... Also he needs some good buds... But can't use the IPods... (I mean he technically can, but if the features that make these gadgets THE BEST aren't available to him anymore, then what's the point??) Also his phone wont seamlessly integrate with his laptop (it by default is a Macbook as it has the best battery to performance right now) So he can't also use half of the features of his Macbook just because he doesn't have an IPhone... I really hope u see some clarity here...

@@benjackson6260 you ARE free to check them out. But Apple doesn’t have to go out of their way to make Apple Watch, Airpods, etc compatible with a billion different types of Androids. People choose those devices because of their tight integration with iPhone, and since they are well designed as well, people don’t want to leave them.

@@benjackson6260 also Apple Watch is Apple Watch BECAUSE of its tight integration with iPhone. Most Android watches don’t even compete with Apple Watch because they have to support a billion different types of phones, different types of default messaging apps, different types of fitness apps, etc etc. I don’t want to deal with that. I’m paying a premium not to deal with that. Noone caressss, Android world is just too lazy to compete with Apple’s products so now they’re just attacking them for their success

May i know what the ad is about, mine ad part got skipped

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I used that time to scroll these comments!

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This is such a weird comment lol

Or like in Poland few years back, that base iPhone cost 2-3 times the minimum monthly wage. Good luck with saving for a year just to have a phone., it'll never be like in the US with 90% market share just for that reason.

Back when I first started using Samsung, this was true in the US too. The Galaxy lineup had features and specs that the iPhone wouldn't have for another 2 or 3 years and was still roughly half the price of the iPhone. Today, the prices are pretty much the same. Samsung still generally has better specs, but the prices have caught up as it became known as pretty much being the top of the line Android in the US.

As a brazilian myself, I can confirm this pathetic reality. Nothing like paying 2x the price because of taxes. And, hilariously, 99% of the people here thinks they're getting a completely superior device over your Galaxy S23+. Ignorance can certainly be bliss sometimes...

​@@michawnuk8114 In Brazil, the iPhone 15 pro Max costs practically 10x the minimum wage...

FAX

It's kind of like if someone insists on using Skype to message you in Germany instead of using Whatsapp. Then all of you Whatsapp users will make grief to him/her for not using Whatsapp, it's like that here.

Same here in Ireland, I’ve owned almost every iPhone, I don’t even remember the last time I sent an iMessage! I don’t even have the default message app on my home screen. Most of my friends have iPhones, but we use WhatsApp for the most part or other 3rd party apps, never iMessage.

I live in Belgium, and as long as i can remember, and as long as Whatsapp has existed, my friends and family all use whatsapp to message or even call eachother. Even my boss uses whatsapp to send pictures and info. I'm so confused about all these blue and green bubbles, i barely even touched the standard messaging app on my phones in the last 10-15 years.

I use WhatsApp and iMessage daily. iMessage is by far and away the better experience.

your imessage in Germany is WhatsApp. the app itself is irrelevant, what matters is what everyone around you is use. Just so happens to be iMessage in America

The global standard is whatsapp. Nobody use sms/imessage outside usa

They will be supporting RCS

@@Signodeexclamacion-di2eb Whatsapp is not a standard, it is a proprietary app owned by Meta. I would not trust Apple nor Meta my personal data.

@@Unknown1243 support is different from global standard

Or allow competing messaging apps to replace Apples Messages app if the user chooses.

Completely misunderstanding the difference and comparing two market approaches that don’t correlate.

No it was super illegal in the EU. They had to make versions of XP where they hid Explorer being baked-in.

​​@@iseptimussince I've seen this analogy pop up in a lot of places, from a lot of ppl I respect, I think it does hold value.

Bruh if you want to defend apple then be ready when the market would be 99% iPhone and you might be paying $3500 for an iPhone se. 👍

@@iseptimusestás equivocado. Es una analogía completamente válida y correcta.

It's funny how you deride the iPhone guy, only to close your "logic" by saying you like the Pc/Windows/Android ecosystem...which is EXACTLY why iPhone users like their iPhones..the closed garden ecosystem. For an IT guy you don't seem very bright 😂

youre not funny lil bro​@@SpaghettiKillah

@@SpaghettiKillah iPhone users like you are the PlayStation fanboys of tech. Have fun being annoying.

@@SpaghettiKillah LOL did we read the same comment? He never de-rode the iPhone guy. He never compared their money with his money, he literally only talked about his own salary. It’s funny how you pre-judged the whole thing and took the time out to blame him for something he never did. On top of that YOU tried to deride him by calling him “not so bright” when in fact you are the one lacking in reading comprehension.

@@valkiron11at least they got Spider-Man :(

Just yesterday I paired my Samsung Galaxy Watch with my new Pixel phone.

Yes because Android is owned by Google and Google owns Pixel, do you understand now? iOS is owned by Apple, therefore Apple watches will work with any Apple devices While Pixel watches also work with Apple, but that's cause Google works with Apple to make some of their devices work together. While Samsung watches DO NOT work with Apple devices. Is Apple being Anti-Market now?

@@haruyanto8085 There's somethings with the Samsung Buds 2 Pro that only work well with Samsung phones, I dont see anyone complaining about that.

Android is Open source and not owned by Google…

@@haruyanto8085the Apple Watch works on android devices you just don’t get all the features. Same with the pixel watch, it works on iPhone but you don’t get any of the features

This is actually still happening. It's like iMessage locks your phone number to their ecosystem, and texts won't be sent to the person's new phone

@@AbstractWerks Right, and you CAN unpair it, but frequently people are not aware what's going on.

I was going to the comments to point this out, but you described it perfectly. The problem really is the default messaging system we rely on was placed as a 2nd priority to iMessage and it grew into what it is today. While you can deregister your phone number from iMessage (which requires you to know this), it doesn't allow users to turn off iMessages entirely. I've personally experienced converting from iPhone to Android and not being able to message previous groups properly with what was once iMessage-only groups. I can send texts that are received by others, which they see as SMS/MMS, but I can't receive from any of the groups. Messages sent from the group are still only for iMessage receivers and I get completely left out. Only remedy I've found to this is for every iMessage user in that group to delete the thread so it can recreate as non-iMessage, which is awful. Compound that with any iMessage group I was once a part of and all those users have to delete the threads too. I've just decided its best to not even bug everyone and ask them to individually message me. There should have been an option for group messaging to turn off iMessage from the beginning.

the thing about this is imsg works with just an email, no phone number needed. when messaging the people who switched, you have to make sure youre texting the phone number and not the email

on my jailbroken iphone 3g there was an app called bitesms which is pretty much what imessage is today but worked on both apple (jailbroken) and android

Except why let another company benefit from your work making that thing?

​@@wkbdgeorge Not being a massive hypocrite. Apple has never used any technology made by anyone else.

Or if you deliberately go out of your way to make the experience worse for people who try to interact with your user base.

​@@MegaLokopo Except they have, and also got sued for it lmao

@@theymonrly, What tech was that? Genuinely curious. I mean they usually just buy startups with good ideas and make it their own.

Same thought here

I was thinking that too, but maybe the term can be used in a few different ways. I suppose in the case of the earbuds for example they're vertically integrated in that they only work with each other. If they were horizontally integrated the company could buy generic tips to pair with the earbuds, but since they've designed them to be unique they're the only people who can legally make them.

Yeah this guy just doesnt know what vertical integration is

@GarryDeWitt You are correct, his examples of vertical integration are 100% wrong. What he is describing is a proprietary product ecosystem. Vertical integration would involve you taking control of different stages of the production or distribution processes within the industry. For example, if you made a camera lens, and also owned the glass company that manufactured the glass for your lenses.

Exactly, also means that they have control over their software and hardware so that it works efficiently. In this case apple has vertical integration yes, but that's not the problem, vertical integration is just a feature, something they have that they use to lock people in the ecosystem, so it becomes hard for them to leave the iPhone.

hotel california

That's just gold my friend

*laughs in offline backups and offline media files stored in dedicated external storage* >phone no unlocked bootloader *”We can alter that agreement that I can either ‘check’ you out the window or you will unlock all of your functionality to me, including that proprietary bootloader. Pray I don’t alter the agreement any further, because I can and have nothing to lose doing it.”* Except perhaps a nearly useless piece of ewaste paperweight.

RIP X ❤

every single mkb vid*

that part, i love my tech video but a lot are high paced, high energy, this was really relaxing.

Yeah I like Marques but feels like he's lost in the weeds on this one. The issue isn't that apple makes good products that work with their phones, it's that they so actively disallow others from making a competing product because they own most of the market that product would be used with. No one can make a competitor to say the apple watch because apple won't let it work on their phones

Well not illegal, nobody would just buy Canon and they would go out of business. Nikon at this point is very protective of Z-mount. No Sigma art lenses for Z-mount. is that illegal or just protecting its own business.

@@ValtersPelns if they would do it with 60% market share that would be illegal and actually exactly why anti trust laws exist. They would not go out of business with that market share, your assumption that nobody would buy their products is clearly disproved by reality. We had monopolies and anticompetitive behavior exhibits from many companies, Apple is just one of the many.

@@stereodark Well, costumers vote with their wallets. If being locked is okey, then they buy in. 🤷 Legal, illegal thats on countrys law shoulders. As long companies are not talking internally about pricing agreements I am fine with it.

@@stereodark Apple has been doing this since its inception. Steve Jobs didn't want any customer or competitor tinkering with Apple products from the very first Apple I. It strikes me as unfair that you can execute your vision, but when you're successful with that vision (i.e. 60% market share), you're suddenly doing something illegal, and you're forced to change.

Or they could buy an iPad Air and Apple Pencil. They do have cheaper options too

Walls are thicc

Here 👋

Here 🫱🏾‍🫲🏻

Just about everyone probably. As this is primarily an Android channel and Android is a far superior OS. Can't stand iOS. The playing field has levelled slightly in recent times but Android is still better

@@the_kingd0mno need for tears bro it’s just software

pixel 3 and still kicking

You mean ✅

@mkbhd u used AOTs analogy.

​@@ian.williamsonNo that's green

Wallet garden. 😂

The podcast has essentially become their discussion room for their next vid.

I'm annoyed with how scared they are to explicitly call Apple out.

Not really a fair comparison. If you bought a PC you had windows and there was no other choice. There are other phones even beyond the Samsung

​@@customledandfiberopticsinc2756 well I mean, you do have options if you buy a PC. You can get ChromeOS which is honestly not half bad nowadays, Linux, and then there's Macs. So in that respect I'd say it's a pretty fair comparison. There's plenty of smartwatch options out there that "work" with iPhone, but are limited in capability purely due to the fact that it's paired to an iPhone, and that's not by the smartwatch manufacturers choice. It's more akin to if Microsoft limited the DPI or input latency on my mouse because I didn't buy the stupid bendy mouse that they make. And then they also made it to where that stupid bendy mouse doesn't work with any other operating system. Wouldn't that be insane?

@@CyanaraOfficial Bad take because he is referencing the Microsoft Antitrust case. Back then Microsoft had a marketshare of like 95%. (Linux and MacOS did exist back then too though.) I'd argue however that there is no point in letting the monopoly happen when it's obvious Apple is engaging in extremely anticompetetive behavior AND at a near 90% market share in the next generation of consumers. So them getting a monopoly and holding it anticompetetively is just a matter of time.

@@customledandfiberopticsinc2756 and once you get an iPhone, you're locked in until you get another one at least. my point was more about allowing the watch to do things other watches cannot even if they want to

reminds me of my youtube to mp3 days

iTunes is/was the worst.

thats true but for losless audio its better and honestly Im using it on android now. my rural internet takes ages to synchronise music buuuut its just very practical

@Feather-yk8su I cant say I do, only know it through apple music and about the cable necessity. But havent seen it being shown or as an practical option on any of my android devices / streaming services

It was doing too much in one app and was slow/clunky. Works much better as the music only app now.

There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that the plaintiffs won that suit, unless you are leaving out some crucial details.

@@yourwifesboyfriend6081 It was a very long time ago, and they *absolutely* won that suit because tech illiteracy was even more ridiculous back then.

Not just that. They also told Dell (and other PC manufacturers) that if Dell wanted to ship machines with Linux on them, they'd STILL have to pay for Windows licenses on those machines. You're vastly oversimplifying how badly Microsoft was abusing its monopoly position.

@@JanGoh-jb5ge just read the wiki article. The suit was just for the Internet browser. I am not arguing about the other stuff they did, they did do them. But this suit was just about the browser.

@@Zalian You’re right. The wiki page reads as if users couldn’t install other browsers, which would definitely fall within antitrust laws. I was just a few years old then, so I don’t remember if that was the case. Another issue I could see is if manufacturers wanted to install other browsers, but MS was prohibiting them from doing so, but even that could open a can worms. In that case, Apple isn’t comparable because they’re their sole manufacturer.

Yeah sure again we need to give more control to the government because people can’t “escape the garden” 💀💀 that’s such a stupid idea. No one is stopping someone in US to buy an android phone

Pretty simple. Imagine Europe. Now imagine all of the European countries fall under the same country code. Why in the world would I need to use a 3rd party app that spies on me to communicate to close people? Americans never needed a 3rd party app to communicate to each other in the first place so the eco system didn't catch on as much as Europe. And Apple made it so that their users didn't have to necessarily install those apps. After 15+ years of not improving their text function, Android finally implemented a similar system to Apple and is now crying foul that it's not compatible. GTFO.

​@@jhpjhun That's a cool story but why are you crying?

​@@jhpjhun But you trust apple to manage all your iMessage data just because? "GTFO"? Butthurt that someone doesnt like the same multibillion dollar company as you do? lmao

@@jhpjhun "Americans never needed a 3rd party app to communicate to each other in the first place..." Have you heard about NSA warrantless surveillance. Americans definitely needed a well encrypted communication service. L comment.

its only iMessage.

Controls its own app store. Not the total app market. Just the one on its own devices. They're very careful with who they let touch the OS

their requirements for building apps is insane, and you need to pay just to build and deploy on the app store, you need special software in order to code the apps, its just a bunch of hops they want people to jump through to lock them down once they are in.

@@jasonmartin364 personally, if it keeps shovelware and garbage to a minimum on the App Store then I’m fine with it

Couldn’t agree more. That’s not vertical integration that just plain how things works from a company

@@jasonmartin364 simple solution... just don't build apps for them. Instead of everybody complaining that they're so strict and whatnot, if developers all focus heavily on android, it'll hurt apple pockets and force their hand, but who wants to see actual change when you can just come complain about it on social media for likes...

It's the skincare routine

Jason cammisa ❤

bro does not have a makeup artist tucked away in his home

@@janvarecathis is his studio not his house

Everything combined tbh, he is making videos for a decade.

Apple has introduced M series chip, Vision Pro and many innovations in Mac like Dynamic Cache and game porting tools that takes games in weeks instead of months from windows to mac...

If a software feature with IP is deemed to be functional on other devices they could do something like lowering the years on the patent. What you’re saying is true but if I can’t be the sole proprietor of something for at least some time to reap the rewards I have less incentive to innovate

capitalism naturally leads to anti competitive behavior. it is thousands of times more profitable to prevent competition than it is to actually invest in it.

@@PSy84 for apple haters nothing apple does is valid. Apple is one of the most innovative companies on the planet...but it is never enough for some people because they are only looking for something to hate about apple

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