Is the K1 Max better than the Bambu? 

Bambu slicer (BambuStudio) is not based on Cura. It is based a fork of PrusaSlicer which is a fork of Slic3r.

Bambu printers just work, and that's that. Creality printers have to be tinkered and maintained to even try to be performed on the level of an out of box p1p. Not to mention that bambu has the X1c is faster has better features and can have an ams attached to it. If anything, this is the end of creality.

I got a P1P and did the P1S encloser upgrade and I pretty much just click print and it does the magic it does. My advice for cleaner prints is to turn off all the fans except for the parts fan. Works great.

My friend bought a p1s about a month ago, and received my K1 max just this weekend. I’ve been using Creality machines for about two years now and I can say other than build volume the Bambu machine is just better… not that I dislike my machine, I’ve already had issued with mine, ie parts missing, extruded clogging, print oddities, and more. While my buddy has had almost no issue at all with his bambu. I’ve had more issues with my K1 than he has had with his P1S this weekend than he has had in his month of ownership… still a nice machine and if Creality comes out with a multi filament system I think they will be much more comparable to those machines at that point.

I've been using Orca Slicer also with the K1 Max, and it's been great! I have V3 and it still came with the glass top btw. Great video

I have the K1 and the K1Max and the standard settings in the creality slicer work best for them. You can copy those settings to another slicer

Just ordered my P1S. This video, along with many other reviews, were really helpful. Thanks!

Thanks for this great video I was asking and looking specially for a comparison between these two!

I have an X1C but I dont have a K1 Max but I do have 7 other Creality printers. I did not even consider getting the K1 Max as every Creality printer I have bought has had issues that I have had to fix myself and from what I have seen the K1 Max is no different. Apart from having to print a few parts to get rid of sharp Bowden tube angles on the AMS I have had no issues with my X1 Carbon! BTW Bambu Studio is a fork of Prusa Slicer not Cura!

I'm in the market for one of these printers, and was leaning towards Bambu before this video. I currently have 3 Creality printers. After watching this video, I'm convinced, I'm going Bambu X1 Great video!!

I love the hand to point hahaha. Nice touch

Great video as usually!!

I'm talking from Brazil, and on this date the Bambu X1 is costing US$3400 here and the K1 MAX is US$1200. Therefore, it is obvious that the X1 has to be better, as we are talking about different products in different price ranges.

Thanks for the review/comparison!

I picked up a k1 a few weeks ago. For the money I am very impressed. But in my case I didn't mind modding it a bit. I rooted mine, shimmed the bed, printed a top cover and designed a door seal. I also only use orca slicer. That is the best one in my opinion and works via wifi etc. And just a heads up Bambu slicer is a clone of prusia slicer and not cura. Thanks for the review

BambuLab has blown up in popularity for a good reason. They're better in every single way.

Did you change your support settings to get them to come off so easy? Mine are extremely difficult to remove!

I guess if you need the build volume then yes, the K1. I just done with tinkering, I want to focus more on what it is I’m making than the printer which the Bambú does for me. Now I just dive down into CAD and design stuff. I’ve inspired more people to get 3D printers because of what I make.

I have an Ender 3 S1 Pro. It’s my first printer. I’ve been considering the Bambu X1, and then I saw the K1 Max. The ability to do multicolored prints with the Bambu, is a huge advantage. I think, if Creality can design a similar set up, and take their time ensuring it works, they’d have a better chance of competing. Thank you for this comparison. I think it’ll be worth the extra money for more options, and less hassle.

I was on the fence between the k1c and the p1s. At the. My best experience I had previously was printing with an old XYZ machine. And I've been messing around trying to upgrade and fix crappy machines ever since. I decided I'm done with the printer being the project. I bought the bambu and I couldn't be happier. It just works. I click print and my part is there a couple hours later. Buy once cry once. Don't make my mistake and think you can make an inferior machines work well. The price difference isn't that much and it will save you 100s of hours of frustration.

u get points for being real! Thanks!

I'm waiting for delivery on my P1S with the AMS, sounds like I made the right choice!

I have the A1 mini and thus use the bambu slicer. There are printer profiles for Bambu printers that can be used in Cura but Cura doesn't support the Bambu AMS and limits to 1 spool prints. I too had supports sticking out above the object from Bambu slicer. Not sure how to adjust that.

Creative video, thanks :)

Great job!

Love my P1S and AMS units. The A1 & A1 Mini are great units as well (own all three). If there is anything that Bambu still needs to work on it's beefing up their support staff. The actual support is great but it can take some time to get help due to demand and staffing (six days in my case until first reply to ticket). They did send replacement parts (which took roughly 5 days after shipment) and unfortunately with the issue requiring multiple part replacements it took about a month and half to resolve. That all being said I still wouldn't make the tradeoff for a different brand. They are a victim of their own success on that front and I'm betting in another year or so things move a lot faster.

I've read that the mesh bed leveling isn't the problem but rather the bed is not square and needs to be trammed. The bed leveling logic adds gcode to compensate for an out of level situation but if the bed leveling is too far off then the mesh logic cannot compensate. I had this exact issue with my Prusa Mini. I read many other people with the K1 Max are having this issue and added bed leveling screws to manually tram the bed

just a thought, have you changed to sunlu filament in the creality slicer? there is an option you can choose to change filament type.

I’m a beginner. Less that 600 print hours. Had a learning curve when I got my XC1. Had a few issues in the beginning that were my fault but after that I just hit print and I get great results that generally exceed my expectations. I have zero regrets buying the XC1. Zero.

I have the K1 Max and don't regret the decision at all, only thing that lets it down is the slicer. K1 owners should give Orca Slicer a go, the K1 profile is fairly solid now. Orca Slicer is a fork or Bambu's slicer with profiles for heaps of different brands of printers.

Orca slicer must! One big reason better than Bambu is one feature missing, that is.. Generate perimeter on overhang... Must try this for support regions.

The main problem with the creality brand is that their quality control is low and they are always rushing products.

I'm an agreement with your overall conclusion. However I feel that the expectation that a lot of us have to do a significant amount of tweaking and tuning on your printer to get it to work well is flawed. Especially With people new to the hobby having an extremely steep and time-consuming learning curve. Let's be honest, very few companies have made significant improvements in 3D printing over the past 5 years until Bambu entered the market late last year. Now everyone is scrambling to catch up and we have some decent entries. Bamboo has unequivocally proven that the steep time consuming learning curve is not necessary with expensive and very inexpensive machines that are extremely effective out of the box for absolute newbies. I am not a newbie to 3D printing. I have worked with many in the past and have several of my own now. The K1 Max was an absolute nightmare. Whoever tested it completely clogged the nozzle to the point where I could not load it ( Even after heating it up to 50° past the max temperature it required and trying to push hard filament through). I had to take the whole hot end apart (in terms of difficulty of hot ends this was one of the most time-consuming I've ever had to take apart and then ultimately reassemble in my life). I hate to say it but I actually gave up. My K1 Max is completely packed up and ready to return. I did not get a single print out of it. My Bambu labs X1C and my Bambu A1 mini were the easiest printers I have ever used in my life. That includes printing with multiple colors and loading multiple spools on them for either individual multicolor prints or prints with multiple pieces of different colors. I think as a community to include content creators we need to expect more from these larger mainstream 3D printing companies. Some of them have done nothing but make a lot of money off a brand name while giving us very little in terms of upgrades or improvements for many years. There are many issues with the K1 Max that have not yet been resolved. The filament trail, the location of the filament, the angle of the filament being loaded into the hot end, these were all deal breakers that needed to be resolved before using the printer. I will admit that if my hot end hadn't been completely clogged by what I assume was an incompetent tester (and this was not the first time and Creality is not the only culprit) I most likely would have worked my way through all these issues as the K1 Max represents the pinnacle of the printer I've been looking for from the day I was first interested in 3D printing. The K1 Max may one day be the best 3D printer, but as it stands right now it still has many issues to work out in comparison to any of Bambu labs printers. Unless you want to spend a lot of time with the printer doing upgrades and tweaks I would strongly recommend waiting until Creality works all the kinks out or somebody else comes out with a similar printer that works out of the box without a bunch of upgrades and tweaks. My hope is that bamboo will now focus on a larger format printer.

Just skip cura and go strait to Orca slicer. Bambi’s slicer is based on Prusa slicer. Bambu from what I understand basically took their slicer and created Orca slicer which makes its basically work with all printers. You definitely should give it a try. I’ve tried them all by and definitely appreciate having everything in one slicer now. Also near the top left calibrate will make tuning for filament much easier with instructions for those that need it.

1. Orca Slicer for the K1 and the Bamboo. It´s like the Bambu slicer so you have a comparable experience for both this way and the slicer is just good. 2. Bambu print quality is a little better, bed mesh is better too, the bed is also a little smaller so it´s easier to get a smaller bed straight but even the smaller K1 has a worse level quality. 3. Creality is a lot cheaper though so...

I have 2 x1c and they are great, just need a little more build volume amd they would be even better.

You can use Bambu slicer with the k1 max. I use it all the time and it works great.

Creality: When you want to buy cheaper and like issues to tinker with Bambu: When you want to buy for the right price and know you'll have company support and less issues

14:04 X1C did a pressure advance calibration on the first print too. This will took some time.

I have a X1C but my finnsih is nowhere near that good. Along the long straights i have some annoying artifacts. What settings have you used for the black boxes? What firmwere is your bambu running?

Creality Slicer is based on Cura, Bambu slicer is based off prusa slicer. which if you are going to use a different slicer, use orca slicer for both.

Support settings seems a little janky. would recommend the tree/organic supports in PrusaSlicer. I think they are in other slicer software

You're being so lenient and graceful with the K1 Max hahah. Probably given the price point lol.

I have 2 creality printers 5 plus and an ender 3 v2. While they both are decent I have to always play and adjust them or upgrade. I bought a X1C over a year ago and the 2nd one 8 months later. I have had failures printing but for the few times it happens, its an easy fix. Bambu Labs are the reason that everyone has fast ptinting now. I will stick with the Bambu Labs since they just work. Sure the Creality is a bit bigger but it won't be long before Bambu comes out with a bigger one.

Chep used a different slicer with the K1 Max and it drastically changed the print quality.

bonsoi sorry to go off topic, can you give me the address where you bought your metal shelf @1min22s on video, I can't find a structure like that. Thanks, always good video.

I bought 2 creality Sermoon D1s brand new. They were horrible, main boards went out twice on both. Fast forward to buying a P1S the shit is crazy how it prints without the tinker.

So many people are having issues with the K1 especially bed levelling and the profiles for the Bambu's are already tunes in. Creality has a history of making half arsed profiles that everyone has to spend weeks trying to tune in. Bambu wins easily.

I actually bought the K1 Max on sale for $511.... BUT, I'm considering returning it and getting the Bambu Lab A1 instead. Size difference isn't an issue for me. And i just don't like the idea of having to tinker with it just to get it to print. That and I didn't find the reviews for the K1 Max very reassuring...

The lines can be fixed with printing outside perimeters first.

I still use my Creality printers but it always just seems like the printers take constant tinkering to make them work. I would much rather Creality charge a bit more and just iron out the simple things they always seem to overlook to save a few dollars here and there. (like the bowden tube) That large print space vs Bamboo ease of use is the only real debate here, IMO.

Almost bought this, decide to buy X1C intsead

I'm returning my k1 max. 4 days into owning the max it dug a massive hole in the build plate after an auto bed level and lidar scan. This ruined the nozzle and hotend as well as the build plate. So I replaced hotend, nozzle and build plate and before I could even start the first print it threw an error code 111 which appears to be a main board or print head board failure. I'm guessing that the board failure is what caused the initial bed crash. Anyway it appears that some people get good ones, and some people like me get shipped a lemon. Support was terrible.

Links to printers and filament in description!

I own both. I only slightly regret buying the k1 max. It's not as polished software wise as any of my bambu printers (x1c, p1p, p1s, a1 mini, a1 yes i've compared them all) the bed required shims, the lidar only works with their slicer (big negative, although who's to say it makes a difference) but at the end of the day, it's almost as good (90% ish) AND can print the big parts none of the bambu printers can. I hope creality stops the rush and refines their k1 series further. That seems to make or break a company in today's market.

Great review. Thank you. I purchased the K1 Max as it has a bigger build size and the price in Canada was CA$1,150.11 after taxes with K1 Max + Hyper PLA*2 + Nozzle kit + Smooth and textured PEI Build Plate. The Bambu would have been close to 1500 or more. On thing on your video you mentioned tweaks that you made. Might I suggest that you indicate what the tweaks were to get to your final results. This would greatly help others trying for those great prints. Also not sure if either printers were actually bought by you or sponsored by either companies.

I have the K1 Max, the glass top barely touches the Bowden tube, not even enough to interfere. I’ve always found it funny what ya’ll call “tinkering” or “maintenance “ on Creality has nothing to do with the machines and more to do with your inert desire to just mess and screw around with things. The “upgrades” that are always mentioned are only “needed” so you can satisfy that tinkering desire, again they are not needed to make the machines work.

Use Orca Slicer works amazing on my k1 max and as well u can view and command the printer in orca

Double click on “quality,” “normal,” or “fast” preset for K1 Max’s slicer to fine tune support (and all other) settings

If you also had the option for a pursa xl. What printer would you pick??

Крутое видео, спасибо!

I feel the k1 max is a very solid machine and does not need the tinkering of other Creality machines

Warning for anyone considering a K1 Max or any creality product. K1 Max here with under extrusion and over extrusion on the bed just like this... and it got worse the more I used it. Along with wall layers not sticking together and benche separating from the first layer during print(but looking fantastic up to that point) Then got a ginding noise from the z axis motor ontop 3 weeks with Creality(plus weeks I spent trying to find the problem myself before contacting creality) trying to find faults including taking the machine apart to check screws were not lose and other stuff. They couldn't find a way to fix it... I asked for a refund and was denied, apparently having a good half or more of your large prints failing even on the first layer and mechnical noise that sounds wrong is not grounds for a refund/replacement.

Good enough reply. Why make videos, though? If you don't really care? You are very knowledgeable and have much good advice to give. The Bambu is stock, but you've adjusted it to get what you want. The Crealty (latest version) is more open source on the slicing software. You ran it without setting any settings adjustments. There's a big price difference. It's not a matter of you caring what people buy, it's a mater of wasting people's time, then saying you don't care anyway, why bother then. Just one more "dude" on the internet, as if there weren't enough already. Problem is, you're a smart dude. However, since you don't really care, keep having fun, because it doesn't mean a thing. :)

We planning to purchase a K1 MAX, or P1S. My brother wants volume, but for me P1S just looks like better choice - also possible AMS in future is just nice possibility. After your video, I just dont know, and by comments below K1MAX seems as worse choice...

I am looking for someone to print 1000 small caps out of TPU 90A, Is that something Two Moose would be interested in?

Every Creality printer takes work to get running and keep running. However, if you watch a teardown of the Bambu printers, I think you're going to find that, beyond a certain point, they aren't fixable and are manufactured to be disposable. Like that $100 DVD player. Only it cost $1600.

So if you need a larger print area what are my options? Bambu only 256, creality is larger. Thanks

excellent video, first time here. good luck on youtube. new sub here. after having snapmaker 2.0 used it several time bought it few years back and started using it since didn't get a chance to use it first day, i am already regretting it. at my job, we recently purchased the X1C and omg instant love. This machine is 2x or more faster and better in every way. The software so intuitive its a dream machine. anyone used the snapmaker?. is there any way i can make this thing print faster ? also why is it so damn loud ? hahahha. i guess i can use the CNC and laser features and forget about 3d printing in this machine. i will definitely be purchasing the X1C soon. Happy Printing. thanks.

Try orcaslicer instead. It‘s the slicer of choice for bambu and creality printers as well as all other printers.

Bambu slicer is a fork of Prusa slicer which is a fork of Slic3r

how do you do multi material or color on the Max. It is the only real difference to me in what I buy

I have the Bambu x1c. I can't get my texture PEI plate to work, nothing is sticking to it..what was your temp at say for just PLA basic.. no glue

Love to know what you tweaked to get the beautiful wall finish on the Bambu black box at17:30

5:12 That is simply a PTFE tube, you call a BOWDEN system when the motor pushes de filament through a long PTFE tube from behind, up to the nozzle, other wise is called a DIRECT DRIVE, when the motor is slightly on top of the heat break and fans, and it pushes de filament into the nozzle, but it does not need a PTFE tube in the middle.

I will just say this. 6 months ago I was totally new to 3d printing. I decided to buy an x1c and my first one did experience a bizarre failure where it crashed and the microlidar failed (though it kept printing perfectly anyway). Bambu replaced my machine within a few weeks and my replacement machine has worked perfectly ever since. Even despite the micro LIDAR failure, both machines just worked when it came to printing items, and I'm very happy I went with bambu. They are phenomenal machines!

I can't get the K1 Max belts looser. The adjustment doesn't seem to work. So it has ringing like crazy.

Use Orca (It directly Supports the K1).. BTW Orca is based on Bambu Studio.. Bambu studio is based on Prusa Slicer... Prusa Slicer is based on Slic3r.

I had a lot of printers, and now own fiew (47) x1c...far the best and that is fact! Just repace with soft legs and that is it...there is no printer i came across with print so perfect as it is in x1c...just my opinion!!

Great video. I almost fell in love with K1 Max. But then this video showed me "her" different sides. I own ender 3 pro and cr-10v3 and I'm really tired of 3d printer maintenance.

I have been absolutely loving 3d printing, what kind of 3d printer videos would you be interested in in the future?

I also have a K1 max printer I just bought it and thank you for the information. The product you made for the glass at the top is very good, can you please send me a file of it or is it on your website. Thank you.

Bambu slicer are based of Prusa slicer which is based of Slic3r.

bambu lab as the K1 & k1max profile on there now

Thank you bru!

Was looking into both of these... I don't like that Bambu forces cloud use, webcam, etc... Extreme lack of privacy in a world where it's already to much of an issue. Have 3 other printers that are all Creality, 2x Ender 3's and a CR10-S. Creality seems to have the edge in open source support. I would just like to figure out how to use a web based interface with it like I did with my CR10-S and Octoprint.

Run k1max on bambu slicer and do the prints again. So much of the problem is the slicer. I have a ender 3 s1 plus with Sonic pad and it's not in the list of printers so i used k1 Max. G code wasn't perfect but the print turned out better then anything it's ever printed before

Interested in that Spiderman helmet, very nice!!! Files? Lol

The corner spotting on the K1 Max boxes is just the seam being supposedly hidden so it isn't a straight line,

does sunlu filement work with the speed of the k1?

Do Banboo do a printer without an enclosure that is as quick and accurate as the one tested?

Do you have either of these printers? If so what do you think? Overall the x1c was super easy to learn on and is a powerhouse! The K1 Max is also great for the price, it’s been pretty good just a little sensitive.

Hi, I'm curious. What was the cost & quantity of filament used for the helmet printed on your K1? Also, if you were to print a slightly scaled-down version of your helmet on the Bambu, it would be interesting to find out if you would be able to see through the "eye screens", or not. This is the second video of yours I've watched. Both have been informative and easy to watch. Great job! Looking forward to more. Thanks Alot, Jim Dasher Spectrum Graphics Seattle metro

Bambulab is worth it for the software alone!

Great review but I still can't decide between the two. Currently using Anycubic Kobra 2 Neo and want to upgrade to a faster, high quality printer. The K1 Max is on sale for AUD $1211 on Creality's eBay store and the X1C is AUD $1839 (without AMS) so there's a big price difference there. I've heard Bambu lacks customer service and Creality requires more tinkering to get quality prints out of the box. If K1 Max had AMS I'd buy one without hesitation.

I would never consider creality again after owning one of their printers. Too much difficulty finding parts and getting support. I had features slowly stop working until the entire board failed.

The only reason I bought the K1, because I got it for like $350. I just need a printer for ABS. If I would've had to pay $500 or more, I would've gone for the Bambu A1, I would NOT pay full, original price for the K1. I don't think it's ever gonna be full price again anyway and they may, then I'd tell people to find a deal instead, don't pay full price for these.

Bambu is like apple where it is premium and comes with premium price point. creality is like android a little cheaper and more work but you have more room to tweak and add stuff.

Cut the filament at a 45 degree angle and it will help with the sensor.

i had no problem with the filamentsensor, for my usage it's a perfect printer, it's quick with a high print quality, to bad there is no AMS like thing for the K1 max.