Is The Kyosho Fazer FZ02 a TT02 Killer? Tamiya TT02 Modified Speed Test and Comparison 

Now that's the kind of challenge I can sink my teeth into! But Mark, it looks like your rally drivers were at the pub before the test drive! Are you sure they can manage this high level of competition? 😆 It almost seems like the Tamiya kit just isn't up to the high spec the Kyosho is... Perhaps the drivers are nervous knowing they're walking into the lion's den? Ah, enough blabbering, it's GO-TIME!!! 😜🙌

IMO a large part of what "makes" the TT-02(or any of Tamiya's kits) is that its a dirt cheap kit that can be hopped up which calls back to what we are all trying to emulate: car culture. I'm not out there racing(nothing going on in my area) so a large part of the fun I have with RC cars is maintaining and upgrading; something that Tamiya kits give me in droves.

LOL the fight is on 🙂 Both bodies are nice but you get the fun of building with the Tamiya, I did notice did the wheels on the Kyosho seem off centre in the arches/

Brilliant work, gentlemen! Thanks for the effort....

The gauntlet is down! I love the banter between the channels 😄👍🏻

G'day McMark and McRobonthecamera😁💃. This is going to be awesome!!, I wonder if others will join in, might be another speed challenge👌😃. Thanks fella's for the fun video,good luck to all👍🦘🇦🇺

For pure performance, the Kyosho is better out of the box. The Kyosho also has the benefit of coming with sealed diffs, significantly more ground clearance, and has provisions for sway bars.

Ooooo this is gonna be good...GAME ON FELLA'S 😁🚙💥💨💨🏁🦘🇦🇺

Great video Mark 😊 how exciting, let the games begin 😅 take care & have a good weekend 😊

some awesome body shells for the fazer too marky i noticed good to have some healthy competion 👍great tests as always marky and rob 😁😁

Now that Audi Quattro you have on the TT02s chassis handles very well. It looks amazing too. Better than the stock TT02 chassis.

May the battle commence!!! I think a warmer day with less debris on the car park you’d be hitting 28mph Mark! Good to see this collaboration happening guys! Over to you Fil

Great video Guys 👌 enjoy your weekend 🍻🍻

Oh, I knew this was in the pipe. LETS GET IT ON!!!!! Good to see you out and about! Now where is that hotshot!!😂

Hey great stuff to kick off Friday evening mate. I think the main factor of which one you go for is whether or not you enjoy the build process and painting up the body. You do get an excellent result if you are Mark Bryan and I did a half decent job of a Tamiya Subaru myself but that was when it was lockdown and I had loads of spare time. If you really don't get on with that kind of thing or haven't got much spare time then it's great that you can just get the Kyosho out of the box, put in a battery and go. I think that the Kyosho chassis is the same as I had on my Mad Van and if so I think that the chassis tub itself is much more bendy than the Tamiya tub. Other than that it is fairly similar. Great to have this collab with Fil. Let's see what he responds with. Hope your weekend has got off to a good start. Have a good one mate 😁👍👍

He he, that's a bit of friendly rivalry we like to see, Mark, and I see Fil is up for it, of course he is! I think both look really nice on the bodies and scale detail, I think maybe the Fazer II chassis might be a bit higher end, but haven't seen one in person yet... But you did have some issues on that speed test, it wasn't straight as in the actual speedurn contest, there I remember it was Fil who was wavering all over the place... And yes, I do remember I also struggled to drive straight once the speed started to rise, he he... All good fun, I am looking forward to see the next installments in this... And we have another challenge, Peter CW-01 Creations' DT-02 challenge, I need to get onto that one, except I just got a good layer of blooming snow here again, he he...

I used to run Tamiyas but no longer have the time or supplies to build. I run Kyoshos now and they are well worth the extra cost, quality is just higher. My FZ02-R got around 30mph stock, now has a 5400kv brushless and reaches around 50mph before I run out of room/bail. Add some upgrades and the Kyosho is a real contender.

Woah, what a sketchy speed run! Good to know it was a wonky servo making it roam all over the place and not another mechanical issue to sort out. It is a shame you guys can't run them head to head but it should be fun shootout anyways!

TT 02 is a great kit, I own a few of them, and I also own a few of the Kyosho, the Kyosho a better car out of the box yes, it is a little bit more expensive but if you spend the difference in the Tamiya, you still not can come close to it. Great video keep up the great work.

I would def go with the Kyosho. Feels like an overall better and more solid RC.

I really like your Audi Quattro, have 6 TT02 chassis 3 of them are the S type, all very good 3 are brushless with 120amp esc's the others are FTX 550 brushed motors, awesome motors all of them.😊😊😊😊😊😊

Ohhh snap! Rally throwdowns!! I guess we could get technical and really dig into the quality of the parts in each car. But what about bang for buck? Also rtr v kit… I may have to find a kyosho to try myself…. Cheers mate!

Only one way to find which is best....as Harry Hill would say! FIGHT!!!!!😆

Having trouble keeping it in a straight line, I've had those problems turned out to be wheel nut too tight lol 25 mph not bad mate thanks for your upload 👍🙏🐱

tricky this as i have only had a fazer mk 2 road car . the camaro 68. kyosho do absolutely nail body work . but i like both really . i can’t afford a fazer and i’d still go xv01 for rally as it captures the movement so accurate.

Go for it Mark, I have every faith in the TT02, but you should have used a TT02s as fairer comparison, oil shocks and bearings as standard would have knocked his socks off.

Be nice if the Kyosho came as a kit as that’s one of the best bits of the hobby😊

Hello from Lancaster Ohio your show is the best on your next show say hi lol

I have both. I like the TT02 only because near me it has its own popular class. If the MK02 had same following, I would pick it over the TT02.

Great video my brother!!! Fil needs to run a few more packs through the fazer with some small jumps & hits, then and only then can one compare slop (it needs some miles on it to loosen up)... I'll be watching for this video but with about 6,000 plus miles between you two, how is this going to work? Hope ya feel better mate!!!!

I’m sure this will have been said somewhere already but the xv-01 is only £230 that leaves £45 for radio and servo to match the price. Also I know it’s rally ready but you did a great job on the TT02s for rally and even with what you need extra it’ll be cheaper and steering superior.

Hi Mark, great idea to do a crossover with Fil. I'm on the hybrid side. Chassis from Kyosho and body from Tamiya.

Tamiya CARS are shelf queens amazing video not knocking on the tamiya brand i bulid tamiya miltary models for competions in cltheRc cars they dont hold up straight out the box for club racing

I suggest the metal suspension balls and shimming up the arms. It helped for me!

In germany the fazer cost around 300 euros. Tt02 R cost circa 119, add a lexan, paint, brushed system, lipo and charger and u go for a 230 circa. U can also find the tt02 audi kit with ball bearing and brushless system for 139 euro. U can go cheap and get a tt01e subaru for 76 or a tt02 base kit with nothing except thr chassis for 54 euro and build something from that, and u will still be under 300. Said that, the plastic quality of the kyosho is far superior, but in this moment one of the best hybrid onroad/rally 1 10 is the hpi sr4 kit or the xv01 tamiya.

Great stuff looking good that , had my TL-01 Focus WRC out today after a full rebuild/upgrade and its great fun..not been run in over 15 years. Can i ask what may be a daft question regarding the ESC, it has the jumpers to change how it operates ie F/B/R, F/B,F/R which should i use ideally is it just personal pref? Just running the TL-01 and a Hotshot 2007 bothe with Hobbywing 1060 ESC. Thanks for any help or advice.

👏 nice video. Seems the games is afoot 🧐😁

Great job Mark maybe save the speed runs for after happy hour lol.

The Kyosho Fazer comes full build up what I know? I don't know but in my opionion it makes fun to build up a car, you can give the car your own special paint Technicaly I would say the Kyosho is a modern chassis and speed is not so important. It makes more fun to drive a track instead strait forward for the run of max speed. But everybody can do what he/she/it want.

Great fun Mark,you sure the driver and co driver you have in tt-02 weren’t just back from heavy nights boozing when your back was turned😄,sure I saw something where Kyosho bog stock was about 27mph? When taking price into account did you factor in radio gear aswell m8?anyway imagine another fun vid will come from this,just keep driver off the brown ale next time😂should be worth few mph!

Is there a centre diff upgrade available for the Kyosho, can't seem to find one. Would love to see how the Kyosho is against a Team Associated Apex 2 with the rally conversion.

Having a bunch of tt02's I thought I'd get some b models and interchange them a bit to suit some rally bodies. Have you ever done a video on this mate?

Great driving with that faulty servo Mark, just how did you manage to miss all of those Kerbs mate?! Hmmm, speed wise, I think Fil will nudge slightly ahead, to start with anyway ..... my Fazer clocks 27mph on 2s. I love all the upgrades that you have done to your TTO2, it certainly looks substantially better than a stock one! The TTO2 and the Fazer are soooo similar in design, makes me wonder who copied who? But the quality of the Fazer plastics and dampers are a lot better. Both have sloppy suspension and non adjustable steering in stock form, and both suffer horrendous torque steer, and both have awful flappy plastic prop shafts! As for the bodies, I think the level of detail is pretty similar..... but the lexan is definitely thicker on the Kyosho, and substantially tougher (which is great when you drive into Kurbs as much as I do! 😂) The TTO2s gearboxs are a lot quieter, and do seem to be very robust..... the Fazer mk2 is such a loud car! Car for car, I would pick the Fazer any day. But, the TTO2 shines with the fact that it is a kit..... and you get to enjoy the whole build process, and you can't put a price on that. I'm not a fan of ready to run, the build is half the fun! This is a great challenge, two of my favourite channels with many miles between them battling it out for the glory! Add a Robonthecamera and a sloppy beaver and we have some awesome content! 😂 Backing a winner is not easy..... To be honest, there really isn't a huge amount in it. The Fazer is a better base car no doubt, but I believe with the Mark Bryan knowledge, experience and wisdom within the hobby you may well be able to come out on top my friend! Love that cockpit by the way..... no Wallice and Grommit business going on here, take note Green Hawks, this is how the professionals do it! 😂 Looking forward to seeing this one unfold guys! 😊 👍 👍 👍

The Kyosho is more comparable to the XV-01 or XV-02 (I preferer the -01 driving dynamics and performance). In order to bring the TT-02 close to the performance of the FZ01 you would need to invest "mucho dinero" and still not quite get there in performance. They are both very nice looking though.

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Who has the highest clearance ? Which one can take turns tighter ?

arg seeing the lightbuckets on the subaru makes me a little crossed the supra body from the BT-01 only has front buckets and the only 3rd party rear light buckets i've found are both unobtainium and 30-60 bucks which.....hahaha yea no even if it's in stock that's just way to much maybe if it came pre-painted and LED'd up maybe. and i did get my TT-02 to have damn near 0 play at the front, all it took was 3rd party metal lower arms and metal cups and tamiya adjustable upper arms and a tamiya alloy steering upgrade kit so....about 125 bucks >.< extra , trying to replicate the turnbuckle/ball end solution from the tamiya steering upgrade because it has 0 play and the BT-01 has a lot of turnbuckles and ball ends but it has almost infinite play out the box >.> but since the arm's are similar i'm thinking most of the play might be comming from the upper and lower arm's mainly the plastic/metal lower friction ball's tend to move around in the arm quite a bit so metal lower arm's with a metal suspention ball pre-mounted in there would be the best value to end result play killer (though they do limit the ride height compared to the plastic ones but still have my front at 26mm)

Cant beat the tt02 easier cheaper to upgrade i agree with you mark bryan

What motor in there and I heard the TTO2D is better value?

You guys are funny, reminds me of Peppa Pig and her brother George. 🤣🤣

Kyosho all the way on this one

Im still on the fence, i came close to buying the kyosho, but moneys going on other things. You miss out on the building with the kyosho bit you dont have to paint and sticker the body 🤔

Hi Mark, miss your videos Enjoyed this one. Too bad your servo gave up If you are a true RC enthusiast you don't buy a RTR 🥱😤Nothing like assemble your own car I would never ever buy a Kyosho fazer. But if you are lazy you do 😆💩

Maybe the Driver´s weren´t intoxicated from alcohol but from Barbara´s beaver performing cunning stunt´s 🤣...anyway I´ma Tamiya Fanboy but I´m realy intressted in a comparisson betwen them allthough I think the TT02 will come out second best with the faster motor and more suspension travel. I´ll follow along so Cheers and take care.

In defence of the almighty Tamiya!! ;)

Nah the TT killer is a yokomo rookie speed 1.0 or a 3racing cero 64. Both 30€ more over a TT type S but full race spec ready rollers.

Haha we all learn 🤠😃😁🤣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴‍☠️

Shoot out please...?

Tighter than Barbara's beaver, I can tell you that! 😁

I have many tt-02s steering is crap can't go streight.

You need a driver

Mark I have both these chassis tamiyas rally tto2 and the kyoshos in the on road version I have to give the nod to the kyosho it's just better and steering is better. sorry big T Kyosho for the win!