Is The Lexus RC F Really A Japanese M3? (JDM Legends Tour Pt. 26) 

and will outlast the BMW in reliability about 10x over

@@SNORKYMEDIA really? im not saying thats wrong, but ive never seen a lexus out survive any car. people say they are brilliant for reliability this and that, but yet when iver ever seen one its sold with rust all over and the casual 'spare or repairs'

Exactly 👍🏻

@@Dockhead I've had around 35-40 sports cars of varying manufacturers since I was 20 (I'm 42 now). Nothing has been as reliable as my Toyotas and Lexus cars. The only thing that came close was an EP3 Civic Type R. All my german sports cars had issues, some severe but all very annoying

I don't know who timed the car at that 0-60 but I've managed 4.1 in mine and other than a slight exhaust tweak it is standard afaik.

It needs revving and its geared too long, hence it's hard to make use of that top end power

@@JayEmmOnCars Seat look very uncomfortable. Are they ???

@@JayEmmOnCars The long gearing makes it scream

One of Main Reasons I didn't Get the V8,Is Stk.Exhaust on V8 s Sucks,of RCF Lexus.

@@730F-Sportat silly speeds

KB L I’m thinking of changing from an ISF to an RCF.

That sounds like a gentleman 😂 nice choice sir

Is the RCF better then the ISF?

@@tubejorrit my comment is based on experience with 2008 ISF and my current 2015 RCF. If you don't mind 2 doors then I can definitely say RCF is better. Engine parts and transmission are improved over ISF. The small labor intensive issues that people have with ISF are not present in RCF. Shifts are much more aggressive in RCF. It still looks fresh on the outside design wise and comfort and interior is much better. It still turns heads. Ibhabe no issue with driving it in - 20C. Traction control is much better on the TVD model which I have. Sound system is better. No regrets switching to RCF. Bullet proof vehicle. Bought mine used in 2019. No repairs. Cheap DIY maintenance.

I love mine too.

-TheManInDboX - But you buy a car to be reliable, because you invested money into and you're trying to get the most out of it? The M4 is the better sports car, the RCF is the better all around daily car. Fixes to the RCF would be: Coils/Spring(spring leaves factory ride quality) RR Racing USRS(LCA bushing) - Makes the steering response way better and up to par with the M4 imo. The OEM rear bushing is soft so it doesnt give accurate feedback. Exhaust - People have dropped the heavy as fuck oem exhaust and dyno'd 50+ crank gains. The RCF will never be the better track car than the M4 end of story. But the NA V8 is a beautiful thing to hear when driving, the RCF attracts A LOT of attention, the non car people think its some 100k+ Lexus. If you want a sporty car and you plan on tracking go for the M4. If you're not trynna live like your in your teens and just took your pops car out for a spin take the RCF. Sometimes we don't need those tickets.

yeah I agree! pick one up for around 20 grand these days

@@RevLexus 2015-16 RCFs go for around 40-50k.

@@tilerf308 is that USD? they are £20-25k roughly in the UK

@@RevLexus they're currently $38-$47k or so, depending on miles (assuming avg miles 15-40k miles). Outside the normal range you can find very high mileage ones (80-110k) for low-$30ks.

Rev Lexus sorry but if u can pick one of these up for 20k today then good luck in a owner of one and since I have brought mine last year costing me 26k I have not seen one. That cheap since 29k plus now

I have to care about reliability, wether you can afford it or not you have to spend time repairing the damn thing thats no fun

@@TheV8Pumpkin true but I don't think that a high quality modern car breaks all the time anyway ... People exaggerate a lot

Keep it....we don’t actually care. I own an RCF

lucky guy

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash of a car

@@ivangamer8022 Yes the Alfa is junk.

Cheers

Currently looking at a 2016 with the performance package but I feel like it’s over priced. They’re asking $47k and it has 58k miles but with this crazy market and the performance package that may be priced right

@@Diff727 I paid 46 for mine 7 months ago with 34k miles, performance package, carbon roof/wing and heated steering wheel etc. Decent deal, love the car.

yes maybe, but I bet people let you out of junctions and McDs workers don't spit in your burger

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash

@@ivangamer8022 Another fucktard that compare a NA engin which is built to last forever and a turbocharged engin that will broke way before 100k miles. A winner lol

@@ivangamer8022 omg, a Trashcar Trolleo fan :-)

Joji Jim On point with it, the new Supra will definitely be pushing 700-800whp with tunes, bolt ons, headers in the future. I own an RCF and it's true to its word, it's a daily luxury coupe, and an exhaust or muff+res del brings out the beautiful na v8 and shaves off a good amount of weight. Most of the people who own m4's dont track or race, they're for show and doing pulls on the highway, the demo for f80/82(rcf's biggest competition) owners is mostly lease and people over 30 as well. People say the RCF is too heavy, but the C63 is the same weight but because its a benz it's loved.

@meaturama It is a great car. I have owned one for 2 years with carbon fiber/TVD package. Does everything exceptionally well. It becomes different cars based on what you configure it to do. It can be a very normal touring car or you put everything in the most aggressive settings (manual, sport+ and TVD in track or slalom mode) and it becomes a fire breathing beast especially at high rpms. Also, I have had mine for 2 years and ZERO issues. I put a full aftermarket exhaust since the stock exhaust is kind of quiet and it sings. It does everything very well so the ownership experience for me, has been amazing.

Probably slipstreaming a lorry at 56mph getting the front of his car peppered with stone chips.

I've been able to average 33mpg highway quite consistently on a 5.0 Genesis, so 38mpg highway on a much lighter and aerodynamic V8 car wouldn't be impossible (as long as you're being extra light on the pedal). Naturally aspirated V8 engines tend to be more efficient than turbo V6 engines at highway cruising, regardless of what the claims may be. That being said, my preference has always been large, NA V6 engines like the VQ37VHR in the 370Z. It's the best of both worlds!

Best I have got out of my 370z was 34.5 mpg going from Phoenix to Utah

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash

@@ivangamer8022 one has turbos.

Reliability is not bad on any newer cars. The differences are now small. Even so, I have ran an e46 M3 for 12 years and it's been pretty good. Some problems yes but well worth having that soul in your car. Lexus still seems to lack character. Although BMW is losing their character too with that numb electric steering.

@@craigmak thank you.. my E90 M3 has been 10 out and not a single time has it left me stranded. oh and 134k rough miles in between.

Joseph C. That sounds like a lemon. As a rule of thumb I would avoid turbos and automatic transmissions. That improves reliability immensely, especially in BMW’s.

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash

Illyrian Gamer you sir are a dipshit.

The IS F would be Lexus' answer to that

Uh ya if they actually make a modern one..

The GSF is HEAVILY underrated, it's more practical, it's indeed the better brother. But I prefer the look of the RCF over the GSF because the GSF is more lowkey(a sleeper) the RCF is more of a flashy car and of course a coupe. Not everyone's trynna take their GSF/RCF around sharp corners so it really comes down to preference tbh. The GSF is more practical, the RCF is if you really want a coupe and don't need the back seats. I'm not a fan of the GSF's rear because it has a flat non aggressive look to it, but the interior is handa down a step ahead of the RCF which is a shame because Lexus should've done it right, my brother's RX350 fsport package has a way better interior than my RCF and I spent way more money(mostly the infotainment system needs to be up to date on the RCF to make it modern).

Rellykz true, RCF- AGGRESSIVE SEX APPEAL, GSF-PRACTICAL LOWKEY BEAST

more modern interior, +40hp, design and i am not sure if the isf can be had with a mechanical tourque vectoring differential or the mark levinson audio system. that should be it.

@@leviathan5207 I specified the non-F model, so in the UK that's the 200t or 300h

@@Geshmaal honestly better in every way but that depends on what you're looking for. The true V8 F models are WAY faster than the regular 200ts or 300hs and the handling is leagues better. Also, the interior quality might look a bit similar but some of the materials are changed and the doors feel much heavier (which shows it's built with quality). I've owner 2 other Lexus cars both Lexus GS350s from different years on was an "F-Sport" which is just an upgraded trim package with nicer interior and neither of them stack up to my current RC-F. The F cars truly are completely different.

Note that this one is using an aftermarket Quicksilver exhaust. I test drove a 2016 the other day and it has no exhaust noise. Does have a sound chamber for passing the engine noise to the cabin though.

Because he drove it on a track and with the Lexus LFA being the best car he's ever driven, he probably expected the RC F to be quite a weapon. But with it being so heavy, it was never going to be one. So you can understand where the negativities of his review came from.

@@MultiTopgearfan it's a GT Tourer it was a huge misconception that this was a track focused car, Chris Harris did the most accurate review of it has he did road and track and came to conclusion that its an incredible road car, they ironed out a few things with the lc500 which made it better all round but lexus need praise for trying something different with RCF at the time. Track edition is on its way soon we will see then if its capable.

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash

especially with the crazy unannounced rises and drops we seem to get with our fuel.

@@Dockhead Funny how the rises are overnight. But the reductions take weeks.

Though at 38mpg he mentioned from that v8 I think that's very impressive and if you don't travel many miles pretty affordable I recon.

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash

@@ivangamer8022 the Alfa is turbocharged, of course it will make more HP/liter. It’s a dumb comparison.

Not wrong

Are you implying that it can't go around a turn???

You demean it by making a comparison with a Ford.

Lexus 5.0L = 470hp Alfa Romeo 2.9L = 540hp lmao what a piece of trash

It's in keeping with the exterior.

and 10x more unreliable. Never going to bmw route again after having 11bmws and switched to lexus a few yrs back. I don't know why I never did.

True but the m2 (non comp) seems very reliable from the research I have done.

If you have to have a BMW, lease it. You can buy the Lexus and it will easily do 200,000 miles. The BMW will break.

SlinkyRich it would be a weekend car and I would buy the extended warranty from BMW.

if you plan on tracking the car and you're more of a performance guy i don't blame you. The RC-F is more for just having a fun drivers car and not much of a car to compete with. I really love my RC-F as i never track it and take it for some fun drives but BMW M2s are for sure my current favorite BMW. Especially for that 3rd pedal i miss so much lol

Does that make it faster or sound nicer?

Not at all. It's a luxury coupe..

@@emeraldages The Japanese C-Class AMG

@@ahrred3127 Must better comparison

lincoln mustang

@@wagrj5738 That Would Be The Lincoln Mark VIII

Just bought a 2015 RCF in so cal for $37,500 with 75k miles, no accidents. $41ish out the door. Gray exterior, red interior. The right one will come at the right time 🎉

At the very least this is an auto which is nice to use

JayEmm on Cars better than a CVT ey

because people don't buy them

Because it’s a GT and GTs never have manual boxes. Plus auto/DCT are quicker.

@@Jabber-ig3iw I love a good manual 2+2 GT. What's faster is irrelevant, these cars aren't for setting nurburgring records. Manual cars are more enjoyable to drive, if you're a lazy ass who can't use a clutch get a tesla and stop bothering with manual steering and manual accelerating too.

Unfortunately yes, RC F is the only car in Lexus Performance F line which does not have an off switch for ASC, Active Sound Control. I think IS F does not have any ASC. GS F, IS 500 have that but they have ASC off switches. LC 500 does not have any piped artificiality it has even more complex induction sound piped though. I do not know why they did it, I think from what I can understand from Savagegeese review, they did it to make driver shift gears for that paddle shifters probably. On the same note I think the piped sound cannot be too bad, plus if we add an active valved exhaust that will be mitigated.

No its the equivalent to the M2 in price but nowhere near the performance.

@@miketheman4341 Just to be sure, are we talking about the 5.0L fire breathing V8 ISF or those trash fake sport car F Sport models?

Han Z If only Lexus could manage to get some actual speed out of its cars that V8 might be impressive. When BMW put a V8 into a 550 they got to 60 in 3.8 seconds. What did Lexus do with the ISF?

Han Z ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-icyQQaNUjyU.html

@@miketheman4341 Yeah, it's true that Lexus is very conservative in horsepower game. In exchange, Lexus has a higher reliability in its segment. I reckon that is what distinguishes Lexus from the BMW. I mean, if Lexus make IS the same as 3 series, then it's no point buying them since BMW has a better brand image. Even with lower power, I reckon, the F1 inspired YAMAHA engine is still worth the love.

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