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David Smoak, Paul Catalina, and Craig Smoak discuss the pros and cons of Oklahoma and Texas moving to the SEC.
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@keruetz 2 года назад

I wish they would go ahead and take the big schools off on their own. I've been a Longhorn fan since the early 60's. I pretty much lost interest in "big time" college football. I keep my eye on teams like Coastal Carolina. They are just more fun to watch. The rest of this stuff is nonsense with regards to the sport. The Longhorns made their bed when they established the Longhorn Network and chased Nebraska, Missouri, and Texas A&M away.

@boomtothesooner7426 2 года назад

Since the Stoops era, OU has went 3-1 vs Alabama, beat Tennessee twice, split with Florida, beat Auburn, beat Arkansas, went to OT with Georgia, beat Missouri and A&M 5 million times, and Saban can't coach forever. The Sooners will be good. Might as well have the money too...

@porterosbournejr.5083 2 года назад

Seemed to skip over LSU…I would try and forget them too.

@christopherlangley72 2 года назад

@@porterosbournejr.5083 not much to say about that one lsu team, they beat up on everyone else that year.

@frontlineaffairs3142 2 года назад

Won 0 national titles

@porterosbournejr.5083 2 года назад

@@christopherlangley72 2003?

@geno4262 2 года назад

@@porterosbournejr.5083 2019

@thunderousooner527 2 года назад

365 Sports get over that OU and Texas left the Big 12 it’s time to move on. OU and Texas are living rent free in your heads. It

@bronsonmcniel5266 2 года назад

It's like the ex that's trying to make u jealous and keeps talking about the break up

@jerrycaughman6324 2 года назад

OU fan here. As a fan I want my team to be the best. To be the best you have to beat the best. The SEC is the best conference in CFB so that’s where we are going to try and make ourselves the best program out there. To have any other mindset is to not be competitive enough to be elite.

@1stcivdiv81 2 года назад

Seeing Texas struggle like they have has been totally worth it. Now seeing them struggle in the sec…that is worth trillions

@shigeolincolntaco 2 года назад

Lol agree Texas and OU WILL NEVER win a NC while in the $EC. They will be meat for the sec grinder nothing more

@kylewood4488-b9r 2 года назад

Yeah they have always been around middle of the pack every year. Okstate and Baylor always finish ahead of them too.

@1stcivdiv81 2 года назад

@@kylewood4488-b9r I don’t l ow about always but Definetly recently last 10-12 years

@ltothep6289 2 года назад

So, you guys obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. Texas actually proposed a Big 12 network (before the Big 10). They also offered aTm a chance to participate in what became the longhorn network.

@TheNaptyme 2 года назад

As an OU fan I'd rather compete for an SEC title every other year than to continue to dominate the B12 but not do anything in the playoffs. OU needs better competition in order to be better, the SEC will provide this.

@zoomdoof6107 2 года назад

we wont make the playoffs every year, but when we do that means we probably beat alabama or georgia so we can expect to win the natty if we just make the playoffs in the sec. also joining the sec means more money bigger nil deals better recruits better facilities ect

@Tijuanabill 2 года назад

It will be nice to play against schools that come to your stadium with more than just the players, the coaches, the marching band, and the bus driver, because their fans actually travel to road games.

@rayharrison724 2 года назад

You guys really need to get over it. You guys have done nothing but wine for ten months now. You guys didn't act like this when Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska and Texas A&M left but when OU and Texas leave you guys have a cow. I realize OU and Texas are the bread and butter of the Big 12 but (not to sound cold) that is not OU's or Texas's problem. They have every right to leave just like the other four schools did and you guys need to move on and focus on the future with the additions of the four schools you just added which should keep it a power 5 conference. If Baylor or any of the other schools had a chance to join the SEC they would do it in a heartbeat and you know it. So please stop crying about it and move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

@mattclark6482 2 года назад

As a TCU fan, it was really fun being in the Mountain West and winning 11,12,13 games a year. I realize the school has way more money and that money has likely lifted other sports, but for me I've lost a lot of interest. Granted the team has been mediocre, Gary Patterson was fired... The Frogs could have won 2 more games a year the last 5 years and I'm pretty sure I would feel the same way.

@jeffwatson68 2 года назад

How great would the BIGXII be if it still had Nebraska, A&M Mizzou and CU without Texass? We all Wish Texass would have just went independent back in 1996! I bet after a decade in the SEC and if Notre Dame is still independent that Texass joins them. Sad 😞

@megaprimeoptimustron3089 2 года назад

The Big12 was the best conference up until they broke apart 2010-2011 you can even go back as far as the Big 8, ESPN is the azs🤡 that started all this and found a willing dummy *cough* Texas *cough* to play along.

@goingrawwithhuck3047 2 года назад

The 80% of the SEC teams are average at best…. None of those teams could go undefeated in the PAC 12, BIG 12, & BIG10, so please quit crowning them! They don’t play outside the south during the regular season and that makes a huge difference in getting to the National championship game or CFP…

@elijahwright8745 2 года назад

@deadeye4520 2 года назад

I don't think you understand the definition of "average".

@goingrawwithhuck3047 2 года назад

@@deadeye4520 understand? I’ve been watching and started understanding college football since 1974, and the SEC plays more of a power game…. Alabama is a great team, but they would have trouble traveling up North to Ohio St, Michigan, Wisconsin and out west to California, Oregon, & Washington during the regular season… That Miami team with Ed Reed and about 15 1st rounders lost to the Washington Huskies in Washington not because Washington was better, but that travel plays a part on the human mind & body! Nick Saban knows this and the other SEC schools know this, so the make their schedules real friendly and have ESPN pump their product up by saying, this is the greatest conference! All propaganda! The other POWER 5 conferences all play each other home & away games, but the SEC only plays neutral site games down SOUTH! So, you’re the one that doesn’t UNDERSTAND… 😉

@deadeye4520 2 года назад

@@goingrawwithhuck3047 I guess NFL scouts don't understand either.

@ronelite582 2 года назад

@@goingrawwithhuck3047 are you severely simple minded?

@adrionallen 2 года назад

Thinking OU or Texas can't be a top dog in the SEC is absurd. Maybe not in the first few years while they rebuild and adjust but I hear this assumption so much that it makes me think the people who say it "wish" this will happen so they can feel better about themselves. They will improve recruiting, adjust and compete. We get it.. you're happy they're leaving, but they will be fine.

@joeykelly5642 2 года назад

It’ll be great for the universities financially…but I bet fan interest will take a hit. They’re leaving behind all of their rivalries and will be competing mostly against schools that aren’t anywhere near Austin or Norman. To top it off, they probably won’t have any double digit win seasons for a while.

@gabrieljohnson4517 2 года назад

They get to play Arkansas Mizzou Texas Texas AM

@johnw3922 2 года назад

When talking about teams that will beat OU & tu why is it so hard for yall to mention Texas A&M? 😂

@orangehoof 2 года назад

I remember the old SWC days and I had no problem with Texas winning it 60% of the time. I never got bored with the competition because some of those opponents were good - Arkansas, Houston, A&M were often good teams. How happy is Arkansas being a .500 or worse team in the SEC as opposed to being a constant title contender in the SWC? As a fan, that's not a fun trade-off. I understand money, recruiting, etc. But Arkansas, A&M, Missouri, now Texas and OU, are just kidding themselves if they think they'll win consistently in the SEC with Bama, LSU, Florida and Georgia. I'm not sure the Sooner and Longhorn fans will accept being a .500 team against better competition.

@billycornish6646 2 года назад

Maybe TexASS will struggle but OU will definitely be top 5 in the SEC and probably top 3

@TR-xp1eb 2 года назад

As a Texas fan, I suspect we will do fine athletically in the SEC, even in football. Everyone seems to forget how cyclical college football is. We won't challenge every year for SEC championship, but we will occasionally I believe. And we will be playing peer schools week in and week out. I especially like the proposed 3-6-6 format where we will see Arkansas, OU, and A&M EVERY year, plus have of the rest of the league. There are no downsides to this move

@SilverSergeant 2 года назад

Yep. Razorback fan here...... It will be fantastic!!!!!

@RitchFishing 2 года назад

Oklahoma fan here. I agree with everything you said. Also, from the standpoint of a fan of college football, it’ll be fun watching our teams play teams like auburn, Alabama, Georgia, etc

@TheBenzwanger 2 года назад

Texas has to get some sort of culture emplemented down there before they go. It should be impossible for them to have all that money, all those elite recruiting classes and be so down every single year. It's bizarre to watch.

@mikedenman2567 2 года назад

I personally don't understand why anyone would think Texas and Oklahoma would not be competitive in the SEC. There may be some adjustments, but the fan base and recruiting will make up the difference quickly. I expect both to be in the top six regularly and both will win the title occasionally

@jdwilmoth5968 2 года назад

Texas is not back they suck

@deadeye4520 2 года назад

Is the Money Worth Not Being a Top Dog in the Conference? Yes, as evidenced by their decision.

@highhorse1375 2 года назад

They're asking fans.

@Tijuanabill 2 года назад

Big 12 fans that think OU can't compete in the SEC, is a hilarious self own, given how little they ever beat OU.

@irmaveps4618 2 года назад

Neither team will ever see another conference title or make the play off. Enjoy your new 8 and 4 seasons every year.

@Tijuanabill 2 года назад

Saying fans don't see the TV money is so dumb. How do you think all this works, if it's not from money? Where do you think they get the money to pamper the players, that attracts the players in the first place? You think top athletes want to take a step down from their high school, in facilities?

@michaelcerean1990 2 года назад

The fans will see more competitive games, but also extra losses too. The “brand” was built on decades of dominance. This will take a hit. And the passion for college football is built on regional rivalries. This will show up as a loss of fan interest overall. There’s pros and cons to all this, but it won’t be divided evenly. The extra money may be worth it, at least for the Universities. However, the fans won’t see a dime of that extra money……..

@bronsonmcniel5266 2 года назад

I disagree on the fan loss theory on regional rivalry. Just for OU, Norman is just as close to Fayetteville, baton Rouge or Oxford than it is to aimes or Manhattan ks.... hell there's alot of sooner fans in Fayetteville. These new rivalries / regional games won't affect a single fan for OU

@bobbywrongway6494 2 года назад

I don't think OU is going to miss playing KU, KSU, ISU, TT and TCU much. There is no rivalry, passion, with those teams. It's lopsided with OSU but OK, in state and all, still get to play biggest rival UT and they'll get to renew with UM and pick up a new one with Arkansas. There will be more losses but nobody in the SEC is going to make a living beating OU consistently. This fan has been sick of the Big 12 for more than a few years and am delighted to get out for a new adventure.

@jdizlle09 2 года назад

1st of all you guys are drama. 2nd of all we are not Lincoln Riley, we're not running from competition. 3rd the SEC has done a much better job managing their conference. The big 12 has not had 12 teams in over 10 years exclamation The big 12 was doing nothing to help when games were being aired. The big 12 was doing nothing new to recruit 2 more teams or promote the big 12.. Finally the big 12 title didn't mean so much when we get beat down by an SEC team.

@robertkauffman8137 2 года назад

As a fan, it stinks, but they just want the money.

@kylewood4488-b9r 2 года назад

Since when was Texas a top dog in Football? From what I remember they have always been below Oklahoma and OKST. Even Baylor is usually better than them most years. They at best is 4th or 5th in the conference every year.

@Wickwatcher 2 года назад

I can't finish these videos because they always turn to Texas slander. I'm not a UT fan but geez just state the pros and cons. Yes UT caused some issues in the Big 12, but you guys never go over the fact that UT, A&M, OU, and Nebraska were all in favor of unequal revenue sharing, all against a Big 12 network, and all were provided an opportunity to monetize their their 3 rights. So yes UT was/is a problem partner, but others allowed them to do what they did.

@michaelramirez6310 2 года назад

All the current big 12 and former big 12 fans fail to mention that ruling of not doing a big 12 network.

@wade2922 2 года назад

For the schools, it about money. They make the decisions

@JohnSmith-by8sg 2 года назад

The OU fans I know hate this move - deep down and despite what they say, most OU fans know good & well the 10 win seasons will come to a screeching halt in the SEC. And they hate it

@gabrieljohnson4517 2 года назад

You’re lying

@anthonycrawford1865 2 года назад

You Smoking! OU will be fine !!

@lastpme 2 года назад

They will find out….similar to Nebraska in the Big 10. They are getting paid, but Nebraska hasn’t had a good team since the early 2000s.

@arkansasgreg 2 года назад

That "kick in the teeth" won't be every once in a while...js

@scooterwallace8212 2 года назад

As a Mizzou fan I feel bad for Baylor Texas ruined the big 12 and then leave you guys in the dust

@larryrussell9295 2 года назад

You guys are so butt hurt and wishful. OU will compete anywhere we go and yes we will get paid for it. We've been Champions for a long time and will continue winning. OU DNA. quit blowing so much wind up everyone's skirt. Hell you might have a better chance at a Big 12 title now.

@anthonycrawford1865 2 года назад

It just means More !!! Boomer !!!

@ladygeorge505 2 года назад

Sounds like a bunch of bitter Baylor fans getting left in the dust....again. BOOMER!

@oumaniac 2 года назад

Why can't OU be top dog in the SEC? or Texas for that matter. Baylor fields good teams, perfectly capable to do anything vs anyone. But as a fan I want to watch OU play in the biggest stadiums vs the biggest names. The likes of KState or Baylor ain't it.

@sorney98 2 года назад

Had schools agreed to the shares evenly in the conference, the Big 12 could of easily had a chance to stay together. Once the talks of started in 08-09 about schools leaving conferences, Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, Missouri looked out for themselves. Once the talk of moving into new conferences started, Big 12 was in trouble. Eventually wouldn't be surprised if see mega conferences soon down the road

@deadeye4520 2 года назад

Mega conferences will arrive sooner than anyone realizes.

@sorney98 2 года назад

@@deadeye4520 the question will be which Power 5 conference will be gone? In my mind way things look money wise and talk, I see the Pac-12 breaking up, which means Big 12, Big 10, SEC, and ACC will stay.

@deadeye4520 2 года назад

@@sorney98 Here is what I expect: the PAC is protected by geography, but in danger due to low revenue. I don't know how that gets resolved, but one possibility is a western pod in the B1G10 consisting of the top 4, 5, or 6 best brands. Another possibility is that USC goes independent like Notre Dame to secure their revenue. The B12 will live on as a second tier conference. Their pay will never equal the SEC or B1G10, but they survive as they are. The ACC is in serious danger and will lose universities to both the B1G10 and SEC. In the end, there will be a P2.

@shigeolincolntaco 2 года назад

@@deadeye4520 If the PAC can secure a TV deal w/Amazon and AppleTV they will be fine they may not bring in the projected 80-100mil per school that the B10 and sec will get. I think they will get around 60-70 which would satisfy most if not all the PAC schools

@deadeye4520 2 года назад

@@shigeolincolntaco Switching providers does not guarantee revenue. There still has to be underlying demand to consume the product, and on the west coast there is little interest in college football. I don't think the PAC can get much more than what they currently are getting.

@jovannycampas 2 года назад

She hates drama 😅

@1185AspAve 2 года назад

Fans don't care if it's 2 million more for the schools or 20 million. No disrespect intended anywhere here except for this... Maybe UT would rather lose @ home to Vandy rather than KU. OU and UT are the other B12 school's biggest draw of the year. Any given year OU's biggest game will be their non con game (i.e. tOSU, Tenn, UCLA, Nebraska). 2022 OU home games: KU KSU Baylor and OkSt. (home games with the rest are worse). Win or lose em.... No college football fan would admit to prefer these schools over what the SEC has to offer. If it means not winning a conference 50 times in 100 years... so be it. It'll just mean more EVEN IF we only win it twice in 10 years.

@berniebrown9115 2 года назад

You haven’t won big 12 twice in last ten years what makes you think you will ever win sec

@1185AspAve 2 года назад

@@berniebrown9115 You are correct. We havent won it twice in 10. Its actually 7 times in tge last 10. Weve won or shared the B12 title 14 times. Which is tied for the most with all other B12 schools (past and present) COMBINED.

@berniebrown9115 2 года назад

@@1185AspAve not talking about swimming

@1185AspAve 2 года назад

@@berniebrown9115 Correct again! We aren't talking about swimming...

@berniebrown9115 2 года назад

@@1185AspAve well you sure not talking about football in the recent past .

@haroldflashman4687 2 года назад

As a Texas fan, and hearing these guys constantly lay all blame on Texas, I am glad Texas is abandoning the Big 12!

@mostlyrobotic 2 года назад

With great power comes great responsibility.

@mBm357 2 года назад

They are to blame though lmfao

@michaelramirez6310 2 года назад

People forget how multiple teams voted against a big 12 network in the past. So all the blame towards Texas is either biased or people forgot what happened in the past.

@Wickwatcher 2 года назад

@@mBm357 they are partially to blame. There were a lot of issues with the big 12, including unequal revenue sharing and the fact that they didn't want a Big 12 network.

@haroldflashman4687 2 года назад

@@mBm357 Perhaps partly. But others arent entirely blameless either.