Is the New Jace Breaking Modern!?!?!? 

Very cool deck though and awesome video! 🙂

Plot is pretty good for precisely slickshot show-off

​@@Drakshlit's fun in limited, and the coyote is actually decent.

@@Drakshlnaw that mechanic is just really strong.

@@dougisacat that was kind of the impression I got but I've seen people have mixed thoughts. Slickshot itself seems to have inspired people to try a broader variety of red + x heroic/spellslinger style decks at least in explorer.

You can only cast plotted cards as a sorcery, so...

Dreadhorde Arcanist and Finale of Promise just feel kind of better, both with Visions and as standalone cards. They don't slot into control, but draw that is so easily anticipated seems pretty weak in Bowmasters.meta

edit seems lke p-ending is bugged on mtgo

It ramps you for 6 mana turn 4…also let’s you protect cards from discard and also make them strong against counter fights. It also can loot, it only plus and has a strong ultimate… It also let you cast suspended cards for free… Immagine him with talking turns card like “savor the moment” or restore balance. Great card

It won lsv the game against murktide!

@@fclmfan1 Ancestral Visions won him the game against Murktide that he suspended. He actually never even cast Jace in either game he won against Murktide.

It won the game because the opponent plotted their own Counterspell, so there was upside in having it in the deck and giving your opponent the chance to cast it and make that awful misplay 😄

What's dirty about playing Murktide? It's like the fairest deck in the format lol

@@Vermilio893 I smell a Murktide player... XD

@@jstuckless Nope, I tend to be more on the UW side of things :P but I don't mind playing against murktide, much rather that than living end or goryo's nonsense

@@Vermilio893 haha just busting your balls, and that's mostly what I was doing to the Murktide players too. I'm just tired of it being a staple of the format for so long. It's basically a gatekeeper deck, if your deck can't beat murktide why are you playing modern kinda thing.

Murktide is probably the worst it's ever been. It's bad against all the top decks.

It's from the Suspend rules themselves. The rule is that you can suspend "any time you could play this spell", and not "any time you could cast a Sorcery" which is why Teferi + Suspend works but Teferi + Plot doesn't.

This is incorrect. Suspending a card is not casting it.T3feri only allows you to "CAST" sorceries at instant speed. Suspend rules States "Exiling a card with its suspend ability is not casting that card. This action doesn't use the stack and can't be responded to."

might as well just run an aggro/tempo build with Finale of Promise and Dreadhorde Arc or even Cascade at that point. Two 4/4s that can't attack until T6 isn't good, even in control. Verdict makes it even worse.

@KungFuIsland I'm thinking add in line of anticipation so that you can cast Jace earlier than turn 4, but even so, wouldn't the 2 4/4s give an extra line of attack in an archetype that usually doesn't have creatures? Maybe not in the mainboard, but a neat sideboard swap?

Untap geier reach is pretty much the only target since I have never seen a tapped kaheera. I suppose it is a left over from when the deck had the one ring, just went under the radar?

I love visions. The good old days with K commands and snap caster mage. Oh! Cryptic command. Mmmmm

@@benlittle5543 I was wondering why no snap casters in this uw shell, do you think it can work ? Jace + ancest visions + snappy ?

I'm pretty sure that's not how cascade works. Cascade states to exile cards until you reveal a card with lesser mana value. It doesn't get skipped you just hit the Jace and are unable to cast it.

@lngun I'm aware, my point however, is that it could be run without needing to worry about it being cascaded into until turn four and even then you could use its ability to plot the Living End from hand if you already drew a copy. Basically it would allow for a bit of a backup plan if needed for the deck. Remember the cards still go back on the bottom of the deck

Interesting so the cascade just bottoms the jace? Didn't know that's how the interaction worked.

@@mageius The issue is then the Living End player would probably be dead at that point. Livind End does not play interaction, so if they have to wait until earliest turn 4 to cast Jace and then plot living end and then wait to turn 5 to finally cast the living end they are probably dead. I can also see a Living End player staring down lethal on the board to Ardent Plea cascading to hit Living End only to hit Jace and instantly scoop. Cascade is at it's strongest when it know exactly what it is going to hit off of cascading. You don't want to gamble off of hitting a card you can't cast turn 3 or does nothing.

@iinsomniaaaaa Says may cast it but Jace can't be cast. Although honestly I'm not sure come up but either way the exiled cards are put on the bottom of the library after the ability resolves.

Geier Reach Sanitarium

He mentioned the original list didn't play Ancestral so there's a high chance he left it over from when it played Ring. Even if you want an untapped blue source and don't care about your basic land count, it's so much worse than Oboro.

Restoration is still turn 4 Jace.

Agreed.

it's trying to do too many things without doing any one of them particularly well.

Leyline anticipation, idk how the deck would actually play but that gets around the sorcery speed and you can play jace on oppents t2

Interesting theory. Did you watch the video?

@@LunaLasceria yeah, i'm just spitballin ideas

@@chadcload1349 Not you lol, I was (possibly too subtly) mocking OP.

@@LunaLasceria lol

Lol yeah a castable 3 mana draw 3 no drawbacks would instantly break Modern, Legacy and Vintage.