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Is it Worth It To Buy A Modern Horizons 3 Commander Deck? | A Magic: The Gathering Product Review 

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 месяца назад
I am giving away three (3) booster boxes of Modern Horizons 3 plus 3 surprise booster boxes on Saturday, June 15th at 3pm Pacific on Whatnot! Just go to www.whatnot.com/invite/tolariancollege and you'll get a $15 credit to spend on whatever you like!
@adaenis
@adaenis 3 месяца назад
Wait, so we go to the link, input our phone number, and we get added to a giveaway that happens on June 15th @ 3PM Pacific? Or is there something else we have to do or someplace we have to be? The wording feels like two separate things
@andrestorres1799
@andrestorres1799 3 месяца назад
Prof, I hope you see this. You matter inside of the MTG world and outside of it as well. The sincerity in your tone is a rare gem in the RU-vid space, and we can hear your love for the game simultaneously conflicting with your disdain for malpractices. Please don’t ever quit Magic. We need you, and I’m very, very serious. All our love.
@diessner2
@diessner2 3 месяца назад
I was just existing today and thought, “Huh, if I’m still deciding on which precon to get, maybe prof’s video on the precon overview will help. And what do you know, he came out with one an hour ago. Handy dandy Prof, keep doing your amazing work so aren’t lost❤.
@elihall6480
@elihall6480 3 месяца назад
and yet other games find a way to be worse "500$" ahri skin
@tony23sa
@tony23sa 3 месяца назад
I have the collectors sets coming to me, as i bought them for my people. I can send them to you to open and review if you promise to send them back 👉🏽👈🏽
@FreyaTamiyo
@FreyaTamiyo 3 месяца назад
I just started playing seriously about a year ago and I am already so exhausted by these prices. I think I have bought a total of 2 or 3 packs and have exclusively bought singles, largely because I found your videos first! Thank you for being honest and sticking to your guns no matter what
@devinloew7681
@devinloew7681 3 месяца назад
Don't be afraid to draft! I've had plenty of fun playing a full day for $25 commander drafts for the sets since I started 2 years ago. You might need to establish draft rules like we did if you are an EDH player like me who isn't as interested in standard (I still went to a couple prerelease events though)
@MusicalBoarder
@MusicalBoarder 3 месяца назад
Good job resisting the urge to gamble my guy
@mr.bigglesworth2952
@mr.bigglesworth2952 3 месяца назад
Just started a few months ago. Bought 2 bundles and a commander pre con. I feel like that's all I really need. Still buy packs here and there just for the fun of opening packs but I do that not really expecting much 😅
@specialed171
@specialed171 3 месяца назад
Started playing a few months ago. Bought Velociramptor because I found it for $45 bucks on sale, bought the $40 Quick Draw, $50 Riders of Rohan and $20 modern LOTR dual decks. Otherwise than that just singles to build any other decks. Spending a ton of pre cons doesn’t seem to be the way to go
@jeffreyfellows8061
@jeffreyfellows8061 3 месяца назад
I've been playing since 1994 feel my pain. The struggle is real and the price gouging is out landish
@nathanpepe4261
@nathanpepe4261 3 месяца назад
You are the man, Prof! I recently got into MTG and love all your videos. Going to join the next whatnot to get one of those signed cards. Hope you get 1mil subscribers soon. Cheers
@justicebrewing9449
@justicebrewing9449 3 месяца назад
oooOOOooooo Flexing that 1 million subscribers number! Congrats :)
@sheaandrus-oak6546
@sheaandrus-oak6546 3 месяца назад
The price gets determined by the secondary value. If you can open a pre-con and make money (simply buy it), the market will eventually correct it self anyway
@jinxsiemcdeath6250
@jinxsiemcdeath6250 3 месяца назад
Was able to preorder a set for $180 so yes, all the worth its.
@tristanalain9239
@tristanalain9239 3 месяца назад
You got lucky. It cost me and my group around 240 after tax, so 60 per person for us each to have 1. Oivei We need MSRP
@TostonDePana
@TostonDePana 3 месяца назад
How did you preorder a set for that much? Pricing error from an lgs?
@tristanalain9239
@tristanalain9239 3 месяца назад
​​@@TostonDePanano clue. My friend is the one who did the Pre-order. He just divided the cost of the case by 4. If I were to hazzard a guess, considering the last couple of Special Commander sets had each deck baseline at 60ish (at least in our area big box stores) that was were the store got the price. So if our LGS did make an oopsie, I can deal. As a policy he makes sure to never price gouge or upcharge. So, this was likely just a mistake. Or it could even be an issue of the distributor side making him make an error.
@jinxsiemcdeath6250
@jinxsiemcdeath6250 3 месяца назад
@@TostonDePana It was my country's preorder price from the leading LGS. Philippines. 10500 pesos = $180. It did go up after a few days to $220.
@only_folls
@only_folls 3 месяца назад
Went with the energy deck and the follout energy d3ck will be combining got them got like 50 and 44 and will be modestly upgrading further. Maybe if i see the $ ones at walmart or target lol thanks professor...wow right when you said what a great energy i wrote this
@42across
@42across 3 месяца назад
BestBuy and Target pre-orders going for 69.99 for eldrazi incursion when in stock
@austinbaker9679
@austinbaker9679 3 месяца назад
My R/B/B recursion deck is gonna love graveyard overdrive, all i gotta do is cut green 😂
@koolaiddude7685894
@koolaiddude7685894 3 месяца назад
Please people.....the presale prices will go down once your LGS has them regulary in stock. Please dont buy a 140 dollar precon because of FOMO.......
@julienmarocco
@julienmarocco 3 месяца назад
honestly it's what I thought last year when CMM precons were released and didn't buy any, thinking they would go down, almost one year later it still hasn't and on the contrary they only went up ; so this time I didn't make the mistake, ordered the 4 as a bundle, even considering getting more Tricky Terrains ones as they have so many staples
@MrMiCruz
@MrMiCruz 3 месяца назад
Eldrazi dont go down, you can see a example from dinosaur ixalan precon.
@allennewhausen2541
@allennewhausen2541 3 месяца назад
Your LGS isn't going to buy more Eldrazi decks because they're only allowed to buy the decks in sets of 4 and they'd never be able to sell any more copies of the energy and graveyard decks when they already have 8-10 copies that aren't moving.
@xwaevy6237
@xwaevy6237 3 месяца назад
in this case “fomo” is not a good example, once the eldrazi is sold out you will not be able to get your hands on it & if you do it will run you over 200 easy. research first brother.
@KILLER76522
@KILLER76522 3 месяца назад
Target has them for ~$70. Same with best buy
@TheSixthDoctor
@TheSixthDoctor 3 месяца назад
The decks were originally intended for a 69,99$ price tag, as that is what they were sold under for the first few minutes after they became available on amazon.
@kozad86
@kozad86 3 месяца назад
Yup, Amazon had them at preorder for $70 each (still insane), then the leaks happened and shifted the prices all over. The simic deck is the only one to have maintained the WotC MSRP. 😂😂
@TheSixthDoctor
@TheSixthDoctor 3 месяца назад
@@kozad86 That actually went absolutely through the roof here in Germany after Graveyard Overdrive was previewed and concluded the spoilers. Sank down to 37€ at one point, then after it became clear that it would contain the best cards, if climbed up to 89€ on cardmarket.
@DoNotPassGO
@DoNotPassGO 3 месяца назад
​@@TheSixthDoctorYeah, I managed to snag Graveyard Overdrive for $55 yesterday. Can't wait until launch.
@MichaelPesta
@MichaelPesta 3 месяца назад
Yes I got my eldrazi deck for about 70 bucks
@HackJanson23
@HackJanson23 3 месяца назад
I preordered Eldrazi Incursions deck just 2 days ago from Target for $72.99
@saltyalters
@saltyalters 3 месяца назад
I adore that some of the music in the background is the same music you'd hear playing while watching a job safety video in a temp agency that was filmed in the early 90s.
@dariusels66
@dariusels66 3 месяца назад
I associate the theme music with Toleria
@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai
@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai 3 месяца назад
Yeah or like an educational video you’d see in elementary school. I think that’s the vibe he’s going for.
@edenconeby8227
@edenconeby8227 3 месяца назад
My favorite thing is how they JUST made a deal about how in thunder junction we’d get cool commander art, and then for this set, you have to pay double the price for the cool commander art
@AndrewS-vu4ji
@AndrewS-vu4ji 3 месяца назад
I wonder if they went back on it or they're just doing that for the "standard" precons for expansion sets.
@flavorsofpie6361
@flavorsofpie6361 3 месяца назад
@@AndrewS-vu4ji truth be told, the MH3 precons were probably in development before the OTJ ones. I guess we'll see with bloomburrow.
@taylorjohnson5148
@taylorjohnson5148 3 месяца назад
They’re probably developed at different times.
@ElDocBruh
@ElDocBruh 3 месяца назад
I also find it super annoying that the deckbox art isn't in any of the versions. They do this with booster pack art all the time too :(
@carterjanssen265
@carterjanssen265 3 месяца назад
It's like you're trying to destroy the secondary card market!! How will Hasbro Exec#6924 buy his second yacht??
@phillcorrea3903
@phillcorrea3903 3 месяца назад
I really dig the way the Prof considers price as part of the rating, as well as displaying his frustrations with how Wizards is throwing their hands up. Great review, great service to the community.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 месяца назад
To be fair though, he himself contributes to their giving up by spreading the secondary market price information in easily digestible form. Any pre-con or other product that comes recommended as having good value is snatched off the shelves before it can even get there, and every weak product gets bad ratings and basically becomes unsellable. I'm not a fan of generally losing the MSRP, but with the precons, I get it. WotC probalby thought, if there's no way to win this game, why bother to play?
@Loki-
@Loki- 3 месяца назад
Make em swallow their fingers to throw up their hands! 👐
@BlueGriffin20
@BlueGriffin20 3 месяца назад
The really fun kick in the teeth is if you get the collectors edition of the eldrazi deck, though advertised as having extended border cards, none of the new eldrazi will be extended border. (The other will have the extension.)
@Deebofreebo
@Deebofreebo 3 месяца назад
Because why would you buy collector boosters then? Such a scam.
@devinloew7681
@devinloew7681 3 месяца назад
​@@Deebofreebo Yup, and throw a bunch of new powerful Eldrza chase cards in MH3 to suck the money out of people who want to power up their new precon. It's pathetic really.
@JosePineda-jn8jk
@JosePineda-jn8jk 3 месяца назад
⁠@@Deebofreeboyeah but then you’d have people buying them up just for that, so idk what a winning answer even is anymore…
@lilythequeen4863
@lilythequeen4863 3 месяца назад
Proxy boutta go crazy for upgrading 😎
@Claede
@Claede 3 месяца назад
Just buy singles, at least thats what i was told by some wise old man :)
@DerrylHopkins
@DerrylHopkins 3 месяца назад
Where'd you find a wise one? The one I see is just old!
@xwaevy6237
@xwaevy6237 3 месяца назад
provided you have a healthy bank account
@Nemissis4265
@Nemissis4265 3 месяца назад
Lmfao no not at all for modern. Your dpending 10x the price if you try singles in a Preimum set.
@combobreaker449
@combobreaker449 3 месяца назад
Not for Modern bud
@thecyndaquil155
@thecyndaquil155 3 месяца назад
Commander decks are way more expensive to buy card by card compared to buying the whole precon deck
@thetrinketmage
@thetrinketmage 3 месяца назад
The themes for these commander decks are all really cool! But the actual cards in the deck made them all let downs. Not putting Goyf in the Goyf deck is silly
@IvanKolyada
@IvanKolyada 3 месяца назад
Oh, hello there, TrinketMage! Do have the same feelings about the lineup (and I also have a closet packed with reserves, so prob not bothering with MH3)
@Gorbgorbenson
@Gorbgorbenson 3 месяца назад
I really like the tricky terrain list. It has a lot of cool reprints and a theme that isnt often seen
@BigPogger
@BigPogger 3 месяца назад
I mean regular tarmogoyf sucks in commander, that's why the deck makes tokens of them. A vanilla 4/5 for 2 is not really a multiplayer card
@thetrinketmage
@thetrinketmage 3 месяца назад
@@BigPogger these are precons with silly themes. I think saying goyf is not powerful is not a good reason to not put that in the deck
@thetrinketmage
@thetrinketmage 3 месяца назад
@@IvanKolyada not sure what you mean exactly. But I won’t be buying any of these
@neftalisuarez5032
@neftalisuarez5032 3 месяца назад
$140??? My printer can do it for $3!!
@Nolucc101
@Nolucc101 3 месяца назад
I smiled so big when you busted out the Premium Deck Series... Graveborn and Slivers were epic
@lucyarisato6850
@lucyarisato6850 3 месяца назад
Y’know, when the Eldrazi deck was announced, I just kinda grabbed it immediately without a thought. I am *incredibly* glad I did so early, god the price really has skyrocketed.
@dunefox8
@dunefox8 3 месяца назад
Ye same. I was able to get it reserved at my local card store
@WeirdTroll666
@WeirdTroll666 3 месяца назад
i was about to order it but it was gone immediately, dammit!
@xChikyx
@xChikyx 3 месяца назад
how much was it then and how much is it now?
@lucyarisato6850
@lucyarisato6850 3 месяца назад
@@xChikyx I paid ~$70 and it’s currently doubled that in price.
@xChikyx
@xChikyx 3 месяца назад
@@lucyarisato6850 oofff still pretty expensive
@taylors1369
@taylors1369 3 месяца назад
I feel so old, I remember when commander precons were once a year and only costed $39.95 before tax.
@NinjaTerd473
@NinjaTerd473 3 месяца назад
I remember the day I went with my stepdad to our LGS and he bought the Edgar Markov precon. Times were simpler for MTG.
@frenzii8332
@frenzii8332 2 месяца назад
I remember getting into mtg around tempest and onslaught release
@thatonegregkid
@thatonegregkid 13 дней назад
YES! and back when they came with the jumbo commander cards! My first one was an Oloro and then finally a Arabo for the old jumbo card decks.
@blammotime8902
@blammotime8902 3 месяца назад
I've very recently gotten back into MTG. And, you are one of the first channels I got into. With all due respect, this video helped me NOT worry anymore that you are a shill for the company. Your honesty is very admirable, and thank you for that.
@ericharrison4067
@ericharrison4067 3 месяца назад
I feel like if you use Coram as the commander of Graveyard Overdrive out of the box you will do better than you would with the face commander. You have several ways to mill cards, good cards in the graveyard to give Coram high power and even some power matters cards like Selvala. The land base sucks, no denying that, but I think the deck does a lot better with Coram than it does with Disa and could actually put in some work and be a deck you might win with out of the box
@mtgspecs
@mtgspecs 3 месяца назад
Agreed. I built with Coram and it should have been the face commander.
@ericheidgerd1064
@ericheidgerd1064 3 месяца назад
I’m pretty convinced Coram was originally designed to be the face commander but at some point late into development they decided to make Disa the face commander instead to tie more directly into the modern format and appeal to boomer jund player without updating the deck. Like it would make so much more sense that there are so few goyfs since it was only supposed tie into the backup commander but still play into Corams graveyard/power matters themes.
@Wulfarwacht
@Wulfarwacht 3 месяца назад
I feel also that people sometimes overlook that this isn't a graveyard matters deck, it's a graveyard SIZE matters deck. It's not about doing crazy graveyard shenanigans and doing tons of reviving, it's more typical Gruul, put out big things, put out big damage, stomp over the opponent - only with the added "fill up you graveyard asap" sidenote. In most gameplay videos on RU-vid so far, the deck actually wins or at least really holds up well, so it's by far not as bad as the professor says, even though it is a bit unfocused with a few weird additions.
@osaka199
@osaka199 3 месяца назад
Disa is very strong if you have a pyrogoyf on board specifically, as it will give you up to three big damage triggers every turn from the tarmo tokens entering.
@SingerOfW
@SingerOfW 3 месяца назад
Genuinely surprised to see Graveyard Overdrive fare so badly, since my friend has been watching a bunch of gameplay videos of the decks to inform his decision and he's positively livid about how broken the goyfs seem to be. I suppose the best way to know for sure is to pick it up for myself, but only after it drops to 25 bucks or so.
@johnsnow3938
@johnsnow3938 3 месяца назад
I agree with your friend. I've watched a bunch of game play with the 4 precons and it seems to perform the best out of the box or upgraded. Both the simic deck and the energy deck have seemed to do little to nothing during game play that I've watched.
@synckar6380
@synckar6380 3 месяца назад
​@johnsnow3938 My friend played the simic deck after we got back from the store, and since we don't run land destruction in our pod, we expected him to sweep the game quickly. Instead he sat around with 20-30 mana, a full hand, and a handful of creatures until he finally played a nonbasic land tutor to get darkest depths, get the 20/20, got it removed after one knockout, and sat around until he played a Mill 2 X (X=43) to knock the last player out.
@johnsnow3938
@johnsnow3938 3 месяца назад
@@synckar6380 that sounds about right. The deck can produce a ton of mana but has nothing to put it into. Would like to see it built with more X spells
@gloomily2388
@gloomily2388 3 месяца назад
@@johnsnow3938 I think adding things like Maze's End and Aven Courier would've helped the simic deck quite a bit without making it broken. With ways to tutor up Maze's end it actually becomes quite strong, and getting those 10 gates is pretty achievable, especially if you do have Aven Courier effectively acting as a second commander. Also adding more gates, especially Baldur's seems like an obvious decision. But yeah, on its own the Simic deck is lacking a clear win con imo
@drakegrandx5914
@drakegrandx5914 3 месяца назад
Hi! Can I ask you the source of your profile pic?
@damned2127
@damned2127 3 месяца назад
The main issue here is how wizards sells the decks. They are only available through a pack of 4 (one of each). Which means for 1 eldrazi deck, they have to buy 4. Which in turn they have to sell to people, but if people doesn't buy, they have to reflect on it and price the decks accordingly (meaning lowering the price of decks like goyfs and energy while upping the other two to make a profit). This is what will kill commander decks. Because stores cannot operate with unsold products on their hands and having to rely too much on 1 expensive deck to compensate for 3 others
@goblinscrewdriver8544
@goblinscrewdriver8544 3 месяца назад
Although I don’t agree this will kill the commander decks (this has been a problem for about as long as pre-cons have existed) I do agree this is the big underlying issue. Because they have to be purchased in sets of 4, if retailers don’t want to end up selling the unpopular decks at a loss, they need to increase the price of the popular ones to subsidize the ones that aren’t sold. If Wizards would just sell the decks individually to distributers, then you wouldn’t be seeing such crazy prices since you’d see supply being able to keep up with demand.
@cherry9787
@cherry9787 3 месяца назад
​@@goblinscrewdriver8544 But you know, AGAGAGAGAGAG
@kozad86
@kozad86 3 месяца назад
Several companies use the weird and outdated distributor model. It seems to work fine for things like soda and crackers since the retailer still has a lot of sway on pricing, but it's not really working for Magic today.
@dtiberio3967
@dtiberio3967 3 месяца назад
The problem is that in the past there were 2-3 good decks with one dud. The past few releases there is only 1 standout and 3 duds. There is no way to even break even since 2-3 sell at a loss and 1 deck, even at a huge premium, this MH3 set of 4 decks would lose $10-30 IF you can sell them all. The Eldrazi deck is already down to $110 which means a loss of $30-50 for the set for most retailers. Fun.
@microwavingmagiccards
@microwavingmagiccards 3 месяца назад
I fondly remember the Premium Deck Series: Slivers deck. I remember being able to get it when I was just a kid and having tons of fun playing with what felt like a really strong set of cards. It's a shame that experience is out of reach for many of the "premium" Magic products for kids nowadays.
@Leslie-Risse
@Leslie-Risse 3 месяца назад
The more expensive MTG gets, the more exclusive MTG becomes.
@babaXIII
@babaXIII 3 месяца назад
Everyone keeps saying the Goyf deck is bad, but I've seen it dominate in most online games and today at my LGS. It's nowhere near what it "could" be, but people are really underestimating how powerful of an ability Disa has
@UrfDaManatee
@UrfDaManatee 3 месяца назад
Everyone reads the first ability and knocks it, when the reality is the second ability is where it's at. Further more, depending on how you build the deck it can still play well without the commander in play since you can use demons, dragons, vampires, or stompy boys to get your triggers off- which even if the commander is kept off the board can present a win con in itself.
@kevgeraghty
@kevgeraghty 3 месяца назад
Heck yeah! I played it yesterday and it was a lot of fun and just my style. I am definitely going to streamline and get rid of the sacrifice stuff
@MonkeyGone2Heaven650
@MonkeyGone2Heaven650 3 месяца назад
I thought we were done with the Thicc proxy commander 😅
@felipenevado
@felipenevado 3 месяца назад
I guess this will be an eternal back and forth lol
@jamesfilyawDigginGabe
@jamesfilyawDigginGabe 3 месяца назад
I'd actually really love continuing the special art commanders without the thick proxy :/
@SingerOfW
@SingerOfW 3 месяца назад
The timeline between making these decisions and actually releasing the products can get wonky, I assume they decided to switch from THICC to full-art commanders somewhere in-between finishing MH3 and releasing OTJ.
@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109
@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 3 месяца назад
As someone else has said, we are most likely done, but supplemental products are made on a different timeline than premiere sets, and that goes double for UB praducts, so we will probably still see them still for a handful of sets before they truly disappear.
@jadiekat56
@jadiekat56 3 месяца назад
Well im suddenly happy i got all 4 for 47.50 each .... jeezzz. I'm also sad i agree so very much.
@seanbrown2201
@seanbrown2201 3 месяца назад
Same
@spacepotato8535
@spacepotato8535 3 месяца назад
I 100% agree with how bad the prices on are these new products. Honestly the money hole is the biggest reason I'm not more into magic in generally and it sucks that I don't see it getting any better but I'm glad that you're not just blinded by your love of magic and actual call out wotc for their poor treatment of their very loyal customers.
@dzat26
@dzat26 3 месяца назад
Pssst buy proxies and play with people who are nice and won’t be dicks about it 😊
@GunLut
@GunLut 3 месяца назад
Congrats on hitting the 1m subscribers. This is so awesome. Well deserved ❤
@TK-zd7ym
@TK-zd7ym 3 месяца назад
Here’s the problem: People keep buying these products despite the fact they’re overpriced. Hasbro has shown MANY times they don’t really care about their customer base. All they are (we are, because I love and play Magic) are exploitable schmucks. These prices are the norm now but they’re gonna get worse.
@homeflakes
@homeflakes 3 месяца назад
I grabbed a set of these at just under $200 after shipping and taxes, so they total out to around $50 each and I feel they're great value for that. I'm especially excited for the Jund deck to run the backup commander, Coram. "Vague graveyard" and "generic value" is synonymous with "Jund 'em out", to me, and Coram seems awesome for that!
@toddpacker1015
@toddpacker1015 3 месяца назад
Coram is awesome my thing with the Jund deck is by far the most expensive one to upgrade cause most of the cards you would want in a Jund Value Deck are not here
@dizax666
@dizax666 3 месяца назад
Same thing. Even in the “bad” deck there is at least $50 worth of cards to add to other decks
@mrtalos
@mrtalos 3 месяца назад
Wish I had. Just grabbed the basic eldrazi one, which is still good saying how the price has gone.
@tyto9188
@tyto9188 3 месяца назад
Going to a prerelease tonight, so wish me luck! But yeah, this set looks fun and I am definitely tempted to get the energy deck
@IvanKolyada
@IvanKolyada 3 месяца назад
GL HF!
@Raro404
@Raro404 3 месяца назад
Congratulations on finally hitting 1 million subs, Prof! Been following you for a very long time and I can’t tell you how happy I am for you to achieve this milestone. What you’ve done for the Magic community over the years can’t be summed up in enough words. Few content creators deserve this achievement as much as you for all the great work you’ve done. Onwards to 2 million now!
@DeeterPlays
@DeeterPlays 3 месяца назад
5:04 “what in the Flying Spaghetti Monster tax is this?!” Ramen!
@djcochrane
@djcochrane 3 месяца назад
Same with regards to the PDS: Slivers. That's how I made mine. I loved that product line. Superb value. Miss duel decks too. It's wild how much has changed.
@NolanAmon
@NolanAmon 3 месяца назад
Prof, thank you so much for your consistent advocacy for Magic players and not being afraid to call out Wizards on their price gouging and (sometimes!) poor deck construction. Hearing you speak about this matters a lot.
@7thCircleHobbies
@7thCircleHobbies 3 месяца назад
The Eldrazi Deck is 138$ USD… wait six months and buy the singles for a fraction of the price. Wizards needs to establish an msrp.
@DarkRavenhaft
@DarkRavenhaft 3 месяца назад
Not going to happen. They intentionally eliminated MSRP so they could get in on the scalping. This is by design.
@paulszki
@paulszki 3 месяца назад
I got the complete deck set for a bit under 200€. I'm considering just reselling the eldrazi-deck because it just doesn't seem like the card in that deck are worth a 120 bucks.
@EntertainingAF
@EntertainingAF 3 месяца назад
What would an MSRP change? Genuinely asking. If they were $20 each or $99 each msrp, supply and demand takes over regardless, and people pay as much as they value it. That happens any way.
@jojov5344
@jojov5344 3 месяца назад
thing is wotc used to have an msrp but stores kept pricing over it so instead of incentivizing them to price fairly they just said fuck it and stopped suggesting it
@swiftythegathering
@swiftythegathering 3 месяца назад
WotC hates its customers. Dumping MSRP has been the worst decision, and one that you would almost expect to be illegal in the EU
@Gengabear
@Gengabear 3 месяца назад
Also wanna point out that Prof gives graveyard overdrive a hard time, but in many of the commander youtube channels that played the precon, overdrive in particular exceled and came out on top
@gerardvandongen8095
@gerardvandongen8095 3 месяца назад
I agree, it's even my favorite out of the 4
@TheSushiandme
@TheSushiandme 3 месяца назад
yup
@MAGWAII
@MAGWAII 3 месяца назад
I’ve seen a fair of share of no board state from this deck as well. Definitely the least consistent
@bigtree3187
@bigtree3187 3 месяца назад
Graveyard overdrive is the most resiliant deck of the four. I dont know what prof smoked, but the deck is awesome.
@jamesroberts8894
@jamesroberts8894 3 месяца назад
From what I've seen so far, Graveyard Overdrive is at least the 2nd strongest deck in the set, if not tops. I guess it didn't do well when he and his group(s) playtested it? From what I've seen of it so far, it looks pretty good to me.
@douglasfoley2060
@douglasfoley2060 3 месяца назад
And you know what the worst part is???……I’ve been watching out of the box videos of from other content producers, using them in matches with their friends. The eldrazi deck by far from what I’ve seen, plays the worst out of the four, right out of the box. It’s like stupid slow……..its price is literally because the new eldrazi stuff that comes in it, is great support for preexisting eldrazi builds.
@Vina.Acecook
@Vina.Acecook 3 месяца назад
1M subs prof!!! so proud to be part of the tolarian community college community!!! you deserve this and so much more!!! you're the heart and soul of the magic community and I think I can say in the name of all of us, that we're so happy to have someone as awesome as you to be the international voice for all of us all over the globe!!!! best wishes from Germany 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
@whitey211
@whitey211 3 месяца назад
I'm watching this while working on my proxies. The cost of this game has gotten completely out of hand. Singles and sealed.
@Highwang
@Highwang 3 месяца назад
21:00 man, it’s wild hearing this price and remembering how you could break into standard back in like 2002-ish with $20 and a trip to k-mart for two copies of the affinity precon in base mirrodin. Prices now are insane and indicative of a real problem where corporate brain rot is actively attacking its consumer base. Hobby affordability is dying and it’s a tragedy.
@ShawnR718
@ShawnR718 3 месяца назад
It’s going to be a great day im attending my first ever prerelease event and it’s with my group of friends that got me into commander
@j_helix
@j_helix 3 месяца назад
that sounds awesome dude, hope you have fun
@GaZZuM
@GaZZuM 3 месяца назад
Cool! Remember, prerelease isn't about winning, it's about having fun! Enjoy!
@ShawnR718
@ShawnR718 3 месяца назад
I’m so freaking excited I’ve never done a prerelease or a draft and just being able to sit with my friends I have zero expectations of winning but the fun will be in overload levels
@thebloodybonecrusher
@thebloodybonecrusher 3 месяца назад
​​@@ShawnR718 best of luck dude. Go have a blast and bless the pulls
@GaZZuM
@GaZZuM 3 месяца назад
@@ShawnR718 Hope you have a great time! Would genuinely love to hear how it went, what you built, and what exciting pulls you got!
@DoNotPassGO
@DoNotPassGO 3 месяца назад
I don't know. From the commamder games I've seen so far, Graveyard Overdrive has been one of the more consistent decks out of the bunch alongside Tricky Terrain. I went with Graveyard Overdrive because I just recently picked up an Adrix and Nev, Twincasters Simic precon for dirt cheap at the Walmart that I work at and I've yet to build a Jund deck. I have two friends who want to buy the Eldrazi Incursion precon. While I'm not trying to sway them away from buying them, I let them know it's going to cost some actual money on top of the already overinflated resale price to get that deck running optimally. But it's that right there. The cost is BY FAR the biggest issue with all of these precons. WOTC heavily uses FOMO when it comes to their more limited run/big expansions like Modern Horizons, Commander Masters, anything Universes Beyond, etc as an excuse to jack the price up to astronomical amounts. It's not cool and I'm glad that you're calling WOTC out for doing so regardless of the quality of the products.
@djkatsuo
@djkatsuo 3 месяца назад
Another amazing review!!! The best mtg content creator period!!
@riccardoriva486
@riccardoriva486 3 месяца назад
Love from Italy Prof! Always wonderfull videos here
@flojo_
@flojo_ 3 месяца назад
I am your 1.000.000th subscriber !!!!! 😮😮😎😎
@foramoreperfectamerica8490
@foramoreperfectamerica8490 3 месяца назад
They should have made Modern Challenger decks for MH 3, not Commander decks.
@crimsonleg4237
@crimsonleg4237 3 месяца назад
Surprised you were so down on the Jund deck. In most of the precon games I've seen, that deck and the Eldrazi deck did the most work, while the Simic deck just did what all Simic decks do. The Energy deck was the least active of them all, but hey, that's the beauty of opinions. I bought the Collector's Edition of the Jund deck for $150. Eldrazi is too expensive for me right now, though. No interest in the other two.
@FujimotoX
@FujimotoX 3 месяца назад
I managed to snap up both tricky terrain and the eldrazi decks for the same price as the other precons back in April, absolutely outrageous that stores charge what they do. My LGS sells them all £60-70, but unlikely anyone will be able to get the eldrazi one since everyone and their whole family wants one
@nicksmith516
@nicksmith516 3 месяца назад
Magic players might be the easiest audience to exploit, considering how many diehard fans are within the scene. I swear, too many of yall would rather go in debt than miss out on the next best MTG product. Even if this set is the best of the year, can we stop accepting these ridiculous price increases? I've been speaking with my wallet since double masters 2022, and I'll continue to do so as long as they keep trying to sell "premium." If the game just becomes a "whales only" club, so be it, I have enough cards in my catalog to enjoy it without buying new sets, I suppose.
@thenoiceguy1799
@thenoiceguy1799 3 месяца назад
ur so close to 1 mil subscribers. Well done
@JosePineda-jn8jk
@JosePineda-jn8jk 2 месяца назад
Doesn’t the lack of MSRP also hurt WOTC? Like if they are supposed to be $50 decks then are WOTC seeing any extra profit from the jacked up prices or is that all just the middle man making more money?
@jeromewear7603
@jeromewear7603 3 месяца назад
It’s crazy that we really don’t have a primary market anymore, it’s all secondary right out of the gate. I know why Hasbro did it, but it doesn’t make it right. The more concerning thing is that people will buy at those prices and just this price gouging going. Sad days ahead for Magic the gathering.
@relevantusername3342
@relevantusername3342 3 месяца назад
Try calling around to LGS I was able to get the Eldrazi for $80-90 by ordering through them instead of TCG Player.
@counterpoint1494
@counterpoint1494 3 месяца назад
Why does MSRP matter when sellers will just increase the price anyway based on the demand? I don’t think anyone is sitting thinking the price of the eldrazi collectors was supposed to be $430. Also weird to call the price increase a tax when the price is just going up due to the demand. The eldrazi deck is a perfect example where the value isn’t there despite the cost of the deck. Edit I think you hit the nail on the head by saying people are going to buy it no matter what. I see the price be so ridiculous due to consumers willing to pay it
@vileluca
@vileluca 3 месяца назад
I miss the MSRP
@xpeterx
@xpeterx 3 месяца назад
so, about the price. as someone who works at an lgs and who has ordered these from distributors, i can tell you that the intended price for these was 69,99€ (or as someone else in the comments pointed out also $69,99). it's almost as if increased prices are a product of capitalistic reasons. who would have thought, that giving people the freedom to choose what they charge for a product based on supply and demand, would raise prices? shocking. almost as if capitalism is a bad thing for the consumer. hmm
@willwithanxbox
@willwithanxbox 3 месяца назад
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks 120 and now 600 some places for the premium eldrazi deck is insane
@RetroPillowcase
@RetroPillowcase 3 месяца назад
600 for premium is the Amazon price on 6/7/24
@willwithanxbox
@willwithanxbox 3 месяца назад
​@@RetroPillowcase yea never in this lifetime will I spend 600 for a preconstructed deck
@gaebril131
@gaebril131 3 месяца назад
600 is supposed to be for all 4 decks. 600 for a single deck is gouging
@sumeetsaini8739
@sumeetsaini8739 3 месяца назад
I just starting playing commander with friends and preordered the set. I was hoping we could just pick and play them, hoping they were somewhat fairly balanced to each other. Looks like I'll have to upgrade overdrive just to bring it up to line with the others and maybe upgrade energy.
@L1ndormen
@L1ndormen 3 месяца назад
LET'S GOOOOOO! I have been waiting for this video 😄
@adamxue6096
@adamxue6096 3 месяца назад
I am sad that Tricky Terrains sounds absolutely fantastic to play with, especially since I already have a mazes end deck, playing with most of the special lands is something I'd wanted to do for a long while But I will absolutely not be getting it, we need to actually make sure WotC understands that this hasn't been ok.
@andresvelazquez5922
@andresvelazquez5922 3 месяца назад
Guya just wait, they'll keep reprinting the eldrazi deck. Just wait.
@kozad86
@kozad86 3 месяца назад
I hope. It's been out of stock on Amazon for like 2 months, and that's their "official" retail channel.
@BiasedOpinon
@BiasedOpinon 3 месяца назад
too late I buy all MTG products without thinking
@obiwan-hf1vp
@obiwan-hf1vp 3 месяца назад
The problem is that since WOTC doesn’t make an MSRP we are all victim to scalper prices that your LGS won’t hesitate to mark them up to. I know mine did.
@wtfudgepudge
@wtfudgepudge 3 месяца назад
"I don't feel like the price on these products correlates with inflation." Okay dude, but why don't you actually look it up instead of going with your feelings? $35 in 2009 = $51.15 today. 51.15 * 1.67 to adjust up from 60 cards to 100 = $85.25. These are selling on average for $76.16. So yeah, these are effectively 9 cents cheaper per card than inflation adjusted premium deck series. This isn't even hard to check. Use your brain instead of just listening to your feelings.
@Welverin
@Welverin 3 месяца назад
You're comparing to the normal versions, not the foil versions. The premium Deck Series were all foil.
@justincrawford5992
@justincrawford5992 3 месяца назад
I do like how we just pretend thar stores kept product at MSRP when itnwas aroubd. From the Vault was almost never sold at MSRP, neither was any limited run product.
@IanKernohan
@IanKernohan 3 месяца назад
I feel like I shouldn't, but I want Magic to start doing worse. I want my community around me to grow, but I want the rampant catering to commander players to wither. It's so extravagant now.
@kozad86
@kozad86 3 месяца назад
Once people begin leaving over the prices, they will not come back, no matter how much wild stuff WotC reprints for cheap.
@eewweeppkk
@eewweeppkk 3 месяца назад
The only way for it to wither is for consumers to locate their backbones. It's so disheartening seeing these videos and the comments are always filled with "thank God I pre-ordered all 4 before anyone even knew what was in this set" like holy addiction. I can't fathom buying $50 worth of ??? and yet it seems like such a common practice.
@AmariieMaerthos
@AmariieMaerthos 3 месяца назад
I can understand why they didn't do Modern precons. Look at the kind of cards you need to be able to be competitive in Modern. Ain't no way they giving you 4x Ragavan or original dual lands
@amityosifovich1805
@amityosifovich1805 3 месяца назад
bro is at 999k subs (kinda hype ngl)
@djkatsuo
@djkatsuo 3 месяца назад
I find it so weird that modern is a format with older cards so the card pool is way larger yet the meta decks seems smaller than standard for variety. Also why does it have to be inherently stronger when newer cards are usually stronger power than older cards. It seems the higher power the format, the smaller variety of decks I see played. This is just my curiosity as I am a newer player.
@steveallen590
@steveallen590 3 месяца назад
Who can explain how the green blue land deck wins? It seems like you make lands “every type” but how does that lead to a win? There are no massive splashy spells that get you a win I don’t get it
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA 3 месяца назад
I'm a cedh player so I don't care much for normal EDH decks but that Eldrazi precon is the rare type of deck where there's no way it's gonna fly at a casual table and it's not good enough for higher metas.
@kevinthecarpathian
@kevinthecarpathian 3 месяца назад
I go to casual events at my local LGS and just played against a control Eldrazi deck. It was awful lol. I think a lot of people don't realize how powerful Eldrazi synergy is and are just like "c'mon, look how high the cast cost is!" meanwhile they had 5 Eldrazi out on turn 7 and no one could interact with their board.
@cherry9787
@cherry9787 3 месяца назад
​@@kevinthecarpathian I have a special "Grixis lockdown" deck just for this type of situation. I won't win the game, but you won't either lmfao
@alasswholikeslazersxx959
@alasswholikeslazersxx959 3 месяца назад
I've been to 2 LGS and while 3 of the decks are around 70$, the Eldrazi one is 154$ CAD lol
@nyslice
@nyslice 3 месяца назад
imagine thinking MSRP stopped any Store/seller from selling a product for what ever they wanted..
@entertainmentinc9735
@entertainmentinc9735 3 месяца назад
Professors always complains about money even when the decks is 3 times the value of the price
@MasterFallenHero
@MasterFallenHero 3 месяца назад
My lgs was selling the eldrazi one for 72 bucks. So I bought it for 72 bucks today. 😊
@AmariieMaerthos
@AmariieMaerthos 3 месяца назад
I got them as a 4 pack, because I wanted them all, for $272 which averaged $68 per deck
@ilyafoskin
@ilyafoskin 3 месяца назад
These are quickly becoming a new type of product, not curated precons anymore which make reprints available. They want to sell us a box of 100 cards at a price as close to the combined market value of those 100 individual cards as possible. Can anyone else see how that completely defeats the purpose of a precon? It's just a box of singles. It's just a more time-convenient consolidation of Eldrazi singles for you to buy instead of adding all the singles to your cart individually.
@TheDanteBoots
@TheDanteBoots 3 месяца назад
The only way I can get the deck I want at a reasonable price is by buying the display set then selling the 3 I don't want.
@deejayf69
@deejayf69 Месяц назад
The 9000 of begging WoTC to include Battlebond Lands in Commander Precons.
@jarvvoitlus9458
@jarvvoitlus9458 3 месяца назад
I was able to try Creative Energy last night and it was a blast. The commander really does a ton of legwork making energy work in commander - although I wouldn't consider anything going on there premium.
@topthog
@topthog 3 месяца назад
A tribal deck with only 6 creatures of that type in the deck?? Is more than one even going to hit the board?
@OvAeons
@OvAeons 3 месяца назад
Even if there was an MSRP, unless enforced, stores would still over price where needed.
@austingreen4775
@austingreen4775 3 месяца назад
I just miss the days of the 20 decks. Those were fun and an affordable way into commander. Also still can't wait for that Behind the Campus video!
@StevenBlea
@StevenBlea 3 месяца назад
My wife works at Legends Comix and Games in Littleton, MA. They are selling the commander decks for $70 and the collector decks for $170.
@myutated2925
@myutated2925 3 месяца назад
I'm glad that i'm getting my precons from my LGS cause they are at least as close to MSRP as possible (I paid ~220 USD for all 4 decks which is ~55 USD per deck). Still the price gauging is absurd. Keep up with good work Doc :D
@treesen5
@treesen5 3 месяца назад
Any day now until prof hits 1m… I care more about that than any of the recent sets lol
@Valance_Argentum
@Valance_Argentum 3 месяца назад
Commenting here since it's the most recent vid, congrats on the million subs Prof!
@JooJooBeens
@JooJooBeens 3 месяца назад
I pre ordered them all... I hope it's worth it, just started video so let's see 😅
@theduckgeneral3290
@theduckgeneral3290 3 месяца назад
I'm happy that I was able to pre order the Eldrazi deck for about $69 instead of $140
@nickjugo
@nickjugo 3 месяца назад
As a new MTG player, the fact that there isnt a MSRP is so confusing. I want to know what the standard price is.. if these are inflated on their own later let that be the case, not having everything all over the place
@kozad86
@kozad86 3 месяца назад
The MSRP is whatever the gaming stores and distributors feel it is at any given hour. =(
@millzy8885
@millzy8885 3 месяца назад
scooped up eldrazi at target for 70 n that felt like a gouge :(
@ambientlight3876
@ambientlight3876 3 месяца назад
Oh, I had no intention of buying this with their insane prices..
@elvishspirit19
@elvishspirit19 3 месяца назад
Just a heads up Prof - the collector decks were NOT Premium store exclusives. I work for a non-premium LGS and we got some in - albeit, a very low number. Also, the cost of the non collector decks were in the $40 range, suggesting to me they were intended to be $60 or $70 MSRP. Those listing the 2 underperforming decks below $50 are doing so because they are not selling well, and the Eldrazi deck is being marked up (partially) so that LGS's can make up cost of the other 2 decks sitting.
@MTGUnpacked
@MTGUnpacked 3 месяца назад
Hoping they reprint these. Those prices are insane! I managed to get hold of the collector decks, but absolutely would not recommend those. And where are our Modern precons, Wizards?!
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