Is The RATTLESNAKE Worth It For C3s?? || EVE Online 

Haha happy to help! 😂

It's an awesome ship for sure!

@@captainbenzie I hope you can show it running trig wormholes soon!

Wouldn't that make it a matari BS?

Excellent! And yes, an MTU with some refits makes for a powerful ship!

I'll look into it!

totally. i mean he has 6000 pg left lol. One of my rattlesnakes has over a million EHP lol. and thats with 3 damage mods.

​@malango255 could you paste the fit here please? Or DM to Otto Mcannick in-game?

@@ottomcannick7698 Sure it's not even that blingy. Does require Nirvanas to get those numbers though.

@@malango255 Still have that fit?

Nice!! Good longevity!

It's a great ship and I'm glad I could bring back the memories!

You must have forgotten about the drones...

Mathematically it works out exactly the same.

​@@captainbenzieperception works to offset the cognitive dissonance?

​@@captainbenzieYa, he knows...

Looks great, flies even better!!

Thank you! I did know this, but I do sometimes make these silly mistakes. I'm learning, and doing better with every video - thank you for your help!

@@captainbenzie how much was your actual shield recharge rate?

@@tanmaygawankar1363 I feel like it's a thing with this creator. He never shows the relevant recharge rates for the tank he uses and flatly refuses to say in the comments. It's maddening considering tank is a huge factor in WH sites.

Glad it helped!

@@captainbenzie I'm going to have a difficult time working this afternoon as I keep wanting to fiddle with my fit and take this thing out for a spin. I haven't flown it in a few years. My fit is sitting at 1.9B which I consider reasonable for a Rattlesnake lol. A module you might consider are the cheaper Hiva's instead of DDA 2's. With a 2 for 2 swap I'm getting about 50 more dps and they are only around 7mil each.

I was going to suggest those damage models also ... they work great with Gila and Rattlesnake . Worm too I suppose but never thought to try.

Welcome back, and thank you!

Yup, this is kept cheap for C3s, but I have a new fit that's soloing C4/5s!

This is a much better fit. Much more EHP to survive a high dps ganker long enough to maybe kill them (or have your EC drones land a jam).

@@Smooj not against players, as that if they want to kill you, they will for sure field enough dps to bring you down, this is wormhole not nullsec where they would feed first then bring everything they have (pretty much), but against those npcs, you certainly dont have to worry much about them (also you dont have to fight if you watch dscan and beware and actually roll hole before ratting, just a tip)

Duly noted! I've recently updated the fit and will compare this, thank you!

You'd be using this in an inhabited hole moreso then daytripping

Any time!

This isn't strictly true. You need a minimum amount to warp at all, and if you're at zero, you cannot activate at all. It's often possible to warp if you can time it so the warp drive activates when you have 1+GJ of Capacitance, but if enough ships are neuting you, it is possible to stop the warp entirely.

I'll be covering the Worm soon!

I don't know but I'd assume so!!

Lost it on the second mission - they broke my shield and I didn't react to escape quickly enough@@captainbenzie

Great tip, thank you!

Just space in the hold and what I had available

You cannot warp at zero capacitor. You have to wait until you have at least 1GJ of Capacitor available. It's rare, but it's enough to hold you in a pinch.

@@captainbenzie Ok so from what I have seen you need .001 cap to warp that means you would have to have like 100 ships all nueting you at the same time and even then you could probably still get out. I have not yet seen any scenario where a ship couldn’t warp because they didn’t have enough cap but if you have seen that happen please share it.

@@greylock5985 as I said, it's rare, but to say you can warp at zero capacitor is wrong ☺️

Sadly this fit couldn't get one in. So I only tend to use this when I have folks around. You can also carry a Mobile Depot and a Launcher and refit in an emergency.

I would. As for the "Why not?" - because I'm an idiot and forgot they existed 😅

They didn't send me the Q&A til this morning. I'll record it and have it uploaded for later today. As for the Worm, yes absolutely!

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This one's a little cheaper than 1.5bn but I have since blinged it a bit more precisely to run it in C5s!

I still use this and it works fine. Increase your missile skills, might simply be that they don't see the main ship as enough of a threat

@@captainbenzie yeah I thought that could have been the issue, but after doing some digging on reddit, I found out that it’s just an old bug. All I have to do is warp to a celestial, eject from my ship, then board it and the rats should no longer target the gecko haha. Keep up the amazing content!

Personal choice, but I prefer Rattlesnake for this content

@@captainbenzie Based. I usually fly a Raven or Vindi. Not because I looked at stats or anything. They just look cool lmao.

It clears faster, and can do more sites beyond. It's also a little harder to gank.

Because there's the Caldari State Scorpion. The lore of the ship is it's not certain who actually designed it. Was it originally The Rabbit who made it and then Otro Garushi modified those plans for the Scorpion, or did the Guristas steal the Scorpion design and modify it

Yup. Alphas can fly these bad boys…affording one as an alphas is another matter entirely however..! LOL

Yup! Completely alpha friendly and makes for an excellent ISK maker. Makes its cost back quickly.

Names don't mean a thing, though. It's possible that the blueprints were sold before production, or that the Rabbit designed a ship and chose a name that he felt fitted, then the Caldari Navy chose a name that doesn't really fit their aesthetic on names (birds and mythical animals) based on the shape.

Or the Rabbit is anTroll by heart. "Let me design this sick ship that looks like a scorpion completly with claws and stinger. Awesome, let me name it after an animal without any limbs, that will make people really wonder."

only real good thing the rattle has going for it is that it is one hell of a brick tank wise, so you can hold out long enough if you are attacked, but that point is moot anyways cuz usually if someone wants to kill you, they WILL do their best to kill you, for example by bringing more than one ship

Whilst you have somewhat of a point, here's a few counterpoints: 1) I showcase multiple options so that folks can fly what they find fun. Not everyone wants to fly a Marauder. 2) "500-600m" isn't a small amount to a lot of people. For C3 ratting, that's 15 more sites to run before you break even on cost 3) Even with hole watching, what do you do if a fleet suddenly jumps in and goes for the Marauder as you point out in the first examplr? You're in Bastion. You're not warping off. That fleet lands on you and rips you to shreds whilst your mates muster a defense. 3bn down the drain. With the Rattle, if you spot them on D-Scan and are aligned, there's at least a chance to escape.

fair points, i don't mean to come out as "just use this" (unless if its really bad, but even then its your decision like flying a blaster rokh for c3 or something), but want to mention some other alternatives if the goal is to just squeeze as much isk as possible 500-600mil is not a small amount sure, but you double or triple the isk/hr you would expect from flying any other standard option like a t3c or battleship, that is nothing to scoff at (plus, c3 marauder's main benefit would be that it acts as a bridge to saving up for a c5 marauder instead) third point, a c3 marauder is 1.8bil, if a c5 marauder is flown into c3 the loss is deserved for the hubris also, in the case of a hostile jumping into system, that is not plausible, because if you scout out any connects 1j out beforehand, and there are red flags like active structures or unknown ships, its worth not bringing out the marauder. that is step one and 90% of your safety measures done. next, for even more safety scout on hole to call out splashes almost guarantees safety, because rarely a hostile will be flying in a fast tackle ship right as they jump in, and even if they are it takes time to sift through the anomalies to find you, giving you at least 5 or so seconds before they know where you are, another 3 or so (being very generous to the hostile here) to align, and around a minute to warp to you. by this time, your bastion will be off, and you will be able to mjd or warp off even then, a neutral will only start off in tackle ship if they know the hole you are in was active beforehand, which is only possible if you did poor scouting or people sitting on holes didn't report and previous splashes. rageroll is another candidate... but who ragerolls c3 sites? even if they do, same process applies it's not foolproof sure, things do happen, but you are guaranteed to make a sizeable amount of money before you really have to go. it might also be worth having a very cheap high tank refit in cargo purely to buy your mates time to kill tackle and to let you warp off that's my two cents though, its definitely riskier, but tripling the profits seems like a very good investment to me if one is willing to take the risk and the appropriate measures

​@@nationalnightlynews8553You definitely meant to come off like "use this instead because it's better", not an alternative. Plus you think everyone just has unlimited skill points? You're an ass?😊

What Ishtar fit are you running? I really struggled running the Ishtar in C3s (did a video on it and I'd love to revisit it) and no way I could get it to run the harder C3 sites like the Outpost, which this absolutely blitzes

@@captainbenzie yeh you can only strictly use for the forts, but i live in busy space so i normally run 2 go home and come back etc. this will do all forts very easy. will erasily run 3-4 an hour [Ishtar, ULTIMATE C3 RATTER] Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Assault Damage Control II Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Multispectrum Shield Hardener II Large Shield Booster II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu Light Electron Blaster II Light Electron Blaster II Light Electron Blaster II Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II 'Augmented' Ogre x5 Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x1000 Void S x2600 Null S x2000

That's true for the passive shield recharge rate, correct. I sometimes make mistakes like this, despite KNOWING better - just talking as I record, I sometimes don't think 100% straight! Thank you for correcting me here!

Yup, insanely good ship!